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    Russian hydrocarbon (Oil and Gas and Coal) Industry: News #4

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:16 am

    The US could blow up a pipeline to Kaliningrad the same way it blew up Nord Stream

    Instead what you have in Kaliningrad is an LNG regasification terminal, which can turn LNG shipped from the LNG liquification terminal at Ust-Luga (Leningrad region, not far from St. Petersburg) back into natural gas.
    They constructed it back in the late 2010s. Smart move.

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    Post  caveat emptor Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:30 am

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    Gazprom should complete the pipeline to Kaliningrad and set up liquifaction facilities there to create LNG. A floating nuclear power plant could provide the electricity needed and also power the region in addition to gas powered electricity generation if required.

    That would be extremely expensive and impractical, especially since there's already Baltic LNG terminal under construction. Maybe after all this is over, one line of the pipeline can be repaired.
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:35 am

    Good idea to also have pipeline too. Even if the US and EU sabotage it or what not, they could easily stockpile underground plenty of gas.

    That said, there needs to be other sources too in order to make the enclave somewhat self sufficient if incase NATO tries anything. I know it's one of the most hardened areas in Russia, but it needs to be further reinforced.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:41 am

    The US could blow up a pipeline to Kaliningrad the same way it blew up Nord Stream

    Russia would investigate and find the real culprits... plus why would the US blow it up... the gas wont be going to Europe or Germany... they can put it on ships in Kaliningrad and ship it around the world.

    If the US want to blow up Russian pipes Russia can blow up some underwater cables that are critical to US communications with the world.

    Instead what you have in Kaliningrad is an LNG regasification terminal, which can turn LNG shipped from the LNG liquification terminal at Ust-Luga (Leningrad region, not far from St. Petersburg) back into natural gas.
    They constructed it back in the late 2010s. Smart move.

    As the EU will tell you.... it is not as convenient as piped gas and the energy used to liquify and the energy used to return to gas form makes it more expensive.

    Shipping from Kaliningrad bypasses Baltic and Finnish waters too.

    That would be extremely expensive and impractical, especially since there's already Baltic LNG terminal under construction. Maybe after one line of the pipeline will be repaired.

    Getting some return on money already spent... or just fill them with concrete and forget they exist.

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:03 am

    As the EU will tell you.... it is not as convenient as piped gas and the energy used to liquify and the energy used to return to gas form makes it more expensive.

    Shipping from Kaliningrad bypasses Baltic and Finnish waters too.

    I don't think Gazprom makes much or any money on gas sold to domestic consumers anyway.
    And why should it. It's a state-owned company and it's interests are synonymous with the interests of the state. That's to say a population of varying income levels but all living at a comfortable indoor temperature of 27 degrees Celsius during the winter who are not afraid of turning on electric appliances either as electricity is very cheap, and who have money left over to spend in the Russian retail sector, services, tourism, on real estate and so on. And the Kaliningrad population must be guaranteed the same. Using the most economic means. Maybe in the future that might mean a modular nuclear power plant but for now LNG shipments are not the worst option.
    I know that the EU would tell me different - that state ownership is bad and that everyone should pay market prices for heating/electricity and that russkie gas is bad full stop actually and you shouldn't buy it and fund Putin's evil regime. But you can look at how their citizens are living in the winter and then look at how ours are and tell me where you'd rather live.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:20 pm

    15% — increase in pipeline gas supplies from Russia to the EU

    ▪ 29.3 billion cubic meters — Russian gas deliveries to Europe over the first 11 months of this year, marking a 15% growth year-on-year, according to experts.

    ▪ Deliveries have now surpassed the total volume for the entire year of 2023, which was 28.15 billion cubic meters.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:03 am

    Hahahaha..... must be pissing them off at Ukraine_watch...

    The US blew up the nord stream pipes to prevent Germany from folding like a little bitch, and like a little bitch Germany wont tell the police which big mean country touched her...

    I laughed out loud at a new report that a German political party is talking about leaving the EU.... they can't even bring themselves to kick the Americans out of their country... what chance of leaving the EU?

    And even if they did they would be surrounded by EU countries and ask the UK how friendly they are after you leave...

    Ironically the Nord Stream pipes would be critical to an independent Germany who does not have to follow EU sanctions or US dictats and could crawl back to Russia in the hopes of cheap gas... but I suspect that ship has sailed.

    The Russians could do what the west is doing... hint at EU and HATO membership... all you have to do is destroy your country trying to weaken Russia and once the conflict starts all you have to do to get EU and HATO membership..... is win.

    They get countries to batter themselves silly trying to hurt Russia and they don't even give them what they promised...

    Russia could tell these Germans that they can have gas at $100 per thousand cubic metre if they leave the EU.... if they kick the American military out of their country... if they pay for the pipes to be repaired and certified... and then they could ask to see those promises written down in an agreement...

    Irony that evil Russia is the good guy in these dealings and it is the west that keeps trying to screw everyone over... but we are told they are the good guys keeping peace and democracy and human rights as a central focus by waging wars, staging coups, and kidnapping people and putting them in places like Guantanimo Bay torture centre.

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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 07, 2024 4:24 pm

    The NATzO-EU west has no respect for any treaty or formal agreement. They are the real barbarians on the world stage. Barbarians in
    civilized underwear.

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    Post  Kiko Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:23 pm

    Novak announced that Russia has coal reserves for 500 years, 12.15.2024.

    Novak: Russia has enough coal reserves for 500 years.

    Russia has enough coal reserves for 500 years. This was stated by Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Alexander Novak on December 15 during a working visit to the Kemerovo Region.

    "I can say that our coal industry will definitely continue to develop, we are the third largest coal exporter and producer in the world. We still have enough coal reserves for 500 years," the Deputy Prime Minister noted during a meeting with workers at the enterprises.

    Novak spoke about the need to diversify the economy in the Kemerovo region, noting that it is impossible to depend only on the coal industry. He added that the growth of other types of economic activity is also important.

    Also during the visit to the region, the Deputy Prime Minister held a meeting on the socio-economic development of the region. During a bilateral meeting with the Governor of Kuzbass Ilya Seredyuk, the possibilities of coal supplies from Kuzbass to the domestic market and for export were discussed.

    Earlier, on December 11, Russian President Vladimir Putin , during a meeting with the government, ordered the urgent development of a plan to support the Russian coal industry . Russian Energy Minister Sergei Tsivilev indicated that the Kuzbass coal industry will continue to develop and that coal miners have great and long-term prospects for working in the industry.

    https://iz.ru/1807661/2024-12-15/novak-zaiavil-o-zapasakh-uglia-v-rossii-na-500-let?main_click

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    Post  GarryB Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:57 am

    The NATzO-EU west has no respect for any treaty or formal agreement. They are the real barbarians on the world stage. Barbarians in
    civilized underwear.

    Which is going to mean fewer and fewer countries are going to want to deal with them or interact with them because they simply can't be trusted.

    Russia is turning to the rest of the world, and while many of those in charge in the west might celebrate that now, when push comes to shove trading with Russia used to benefit the west rather more than it benefited Russia so it is the west that will lose out the most.

    Russia turning to the rest of the world will get a better deal and much better conditions and the benefits will be mutual...
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    Post  Kiko Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:15 am

    India has decided to enter into a long-term oil deal with Russia, by Maria Ivanova for VZGLYAD. 12.16.2024.

    The Indian government intends to intensify negotiations on long-term purchase of oil from Russia to ensure stable access to resources on favorable terms, writes Business Standard.

    The Indian government is planning to fast-track a long-term oil deal with Russia by the next financial year starting in April, the Business Standard newspaper reported, citing sources in the Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas. The discussions involve a joint group of state-owned oil refiners, which are expected to step up talks with Russia soon.

    The sources say the decline in oil prices in recent months, despite the conflicts in the Middle East, is playing into the hands of Indian buyers. According to forecasts, India remains the only major economy where oil demand is expected to grow steadily. This improves India's negotiating position.

    A long-term agreement with Russia will allow India to have continued access to oil at a lower price and reduce price volatility. Petroleum and Natural Gas Minister Hardeep Singh Puri has repeatedly stated his readiness to continue buying Russian oil on terms satisfactory to India.

    India, the world's third-largest oil consumer, relies on imports for 85% and buys oil from more than 30 countries, including Russia. Russia has been India's largest oil supplier for nearly two years, accounting for 38% of total imports as of November.

    As Vzglyad newspaper wrote, the US administration is considering the possibility of introducing new sanctions against Russian oil exports, which could affect buyers from India and China.

    Meanwhile, Russian oil product exports to India reached $130 million in August, reclaiming the leading position after a two-month decline in supplies.

    https://m.vz.ru/news/2024/12/16/1303634.html

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    Post  Kiko Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:03 am

    Further details:

    India rushes to seal historic oil deal with Russia, by Olga Samofalova for RiaNovosti. 12.17.2024.

    India is ready to sign a long-term contract with Russia for the supply of a significant volume of oil. And it wants to do it as quickly as possible. Such haste may indicate that India is betting on a quick end to the conflict in Ukraine and the lifting of European sanctions. Why could the deal be historic?

    Russia and India have already signed or are preparing to sign a long-term oil contract, which has already been dubbed historic. Indeed, until 2022, Russia did not trade oil with India at all, and now it is its main supplier to the country. Russia supplies about 2 million barrels per day to India by sea transport and provides about 40% of all oil imports to the country.

    Reuters sources previously said the deal had already been signed – between Rosneft and the Indian oil refinery complex Reliance in the western state of Gujarat. It is one of the largest refineries in the world. And deliveries through it will begin as early as January 2025.

    However, the Business Standard newspaper , citing its sources, claims that the deal has not yet been signed, but the Indian government plans to expedite the conclusion of a long-term agreement to purchase oil from Russia by the next financial year, which begins in April 2025. The discussions involve a combined group of state-owned oil refineries, which are expected to intensify negotiations with Russia in the near future. Officially, the parties are silent.

    Reuters sources even named the parameters of the deal. The agreement is concluded for 10 years for the supply of about 500 thousand barrels per day. Most of the supplies will be Urals oil, which will be sold three dollars cheaper than Dubai grade quotes next year. However, prices and supply volumes will be revised annually. Based on today's prices, the contract will cost $13 billion per year, and over 10 years we could be talking, roughly speaking, about $130 billion.

    This deal could become the largest for oil for Russia. “500 thousand barrels per day is about 15% of current Russian seaborne crude oil exports and corresponds to almost 0.5% of the world supply of liquid hydrocarbons,” says Sergei Kaufman, an analyst at FG Finam.

    “If India is going for a long-term deal and is in a hurry to conclude it, it means that it feels that the story with Ukraine and the confrontation with the collective West is close to its denouement.

    If Trump manages to stop the hostilities, then European sanctions could be lifted, and this would mean the restoration of oil supplies from Russia to Europe, while India, on the contrary, would lose these volumes,” believes Igor Yushkov, an expert at the National Energy Security Fund and the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation.

    The main thing for Delhi in the deal is to secure supplies on preferential terms, that is, with a certain discount, the expert believes. In his opinion, the size of the discount is the key point around which both sides will negotiate.

    “The Russian side will also consider the scenario of normalizing relations with Europe and the emergence of the opportunity to sell Russian oil at a higher price to European consumers,” says Yushkov.

    However, there are risks for both sides, since when the armed conflict in Ukraine will end and when Western sanctions will be lifted are unknown variables. “But if India did not have the fact of expecting the end of the armed conflict in Ukraine, then there would be no discussion of a long-term deal,” the FNEB expert is sure.

    As for the contract price and discount, the price will most likely be tied to benchmark grades of oil with a discount of some amount of dollars. A more complex scheme is possible, when the discount depends on the price corridor in which the benchmark grade of oil is traded, Yushkov does not rule out.

    "Such a long-term contract with one of the largest energy companies implies that India, despite the sanctions pressure, is counting on long-term cooperation with Russian oilmen. This is especially important for Rosneft, given the development of the Vostok Oil project," Kaufman believes.

    Until 2022, Russia supplied virtually no oil to India. Supplies first began in the spring of 2022, and grew sharply with each month. Therefore, when EU sanctions against Russian oil came into force in December 2022, we had already managed to establish logistics and deliveries of large volumes to India.

    "Why did Russia manage to switch to the Indian market so quickly and successfully in 2022? Because by that time, many oil refineries had already been built on the Indian coast and there was already a successful business. Indian refineries bought Middle Eastern oil (at first, the largest supplier was Iraq, then Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates), processed it and sold oil products to foreign markets. Only part of the processed oil was shipped to the domestic market. Now Indian refineries process Russian oil, because it is sold at a discount to Brent, and earn even more on the sale of oil products from Russian oil," recalls Igor Yushkov.

    Moreover, India sells its oil products made from Russian oil to many markets – both the European Union and Britain and even the USA. No sanctions prohibit such a scheme.

    "Indian oil products have partially replaced our oil products on the European market. Moreover, many refineries in Europe are now underutilized because it is cheaper to buy oil products in India made from Russian oil than to load our own refineries," – says Yushkov.

    Previously, there were problems with our oil sellers being unable to withdraw rupees from Indian bank accounts, which Indian buyers used to pay. At the same time, we have nothing to spend such a volume of rupees on – Russia buys few Indian goods.

    However, according to the Central Bank, this problem can be solved by eliminating trading in rupees and switching to selling Russian oil to India for yuan, Hong Kong dollars or dirhams.

    https://m.vz.ru/economy/2024/12/17/1303770.html

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    Post  mnztr Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:47 pm

    Any news about the massive oil spill in the black sea? I see western reports and hope they are sensationalized.
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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:34 pm

    Two days ago, one river class tanker broke in half and sank and another one ran aground in Kerch Strait,  due to the storm.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:37 am

    This could potentially mean, if EU countries can't get similar arrangements, that those countries could pay Turkey rather than Russia for the gas they get via Turkstream.

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    Also Putin on Thursday confirmed that Ukrainian pipeline transit stops on 31/12/24 so it looks like those EU countries trying to extend it have drawn a blank.

    Russia now holds a significant sword over the heads in Brussels, the huge NG storage leased to the EU located in Ukraine. 

    Losing access to that would cause deep energy/heat supply and price problems and not just to the eastern EU actually using that NG as there are many gasPP. Were say the pipelines from them damaged or destroyed the EU, as will as losing both the stored and direct pipeline NG, would be hit ,under their open market pricing, by massive increases in the price of both gas and electricity.

    Combined it could be an economic and social disaster.

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:19 pm

    Any news about the massive oil spill in the black sea? I see western reports and hope they are sensationalized.

    I posted in another thread. Unfortunately the environmental damage is significant.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 21, 2024 3:53 am

    Also Putin on Thursday confirmed that Ukrainian pipeline transit stops on 31/12/24 so it looks like those EU countries trying to extend it have drawn a blank.

    Russia now holds a significant sword over the heads in Brussels, the huge NG storage leased to the EU located in Ukraine.

    Well, no, not really... the Ukraine has already said it wont renew any contracts because the money, as they say, is not worth it to them any more.

    This means that contract extension is not Putins decision... he is just the messenger.

    It has been the west that has been using energy supply as a weapon and failing miserably.

    Russia can sell gas to Turkey and then it is Turkish gas... the same as they sell gas and oil to India and China and it becomes Indian gas and oil and Chinese gas and oil that sometimes Europe buys and sometimes the US buys and sells to Europe... all at a mark up price...
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:33 am

    Moscow and Kyiv failed to reach an agreement on gas exports with the mediation of Azerbaijan - Reuters

    ▪Earlier, the European Union and Ukraine asked Azerbaijan (SOCAR) to facilitate negotiations with Russia on extending the gas transit agreement, which expires at the end of this year.

    ▪Already during the direct line, Russian President Putin explained that with a high degree of probability, there will be no new deal with Kiev on the supply of Russian gas through Ukraine to Europe, since the Ukrainian authorities themselves are opposed, are stalling the process and are in every possible way delaying the adoption of an unambiguous decision on the issue.

    ▪Slovak Prime Minister Fico also expressed his indignation at the suspension of transit, threatening Ukraine with a "serious conflict" if Kyiv stops gas transit to Slovakia. Now the head of the Slovak government intends to personally meet with Vladimir Putin in Moscow and discuss the gas issue face to face.
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    Zelensky gone insane? Was he not the individual proudly claiming he would not be extending the license and now Ukraine is gaslighting the West into thinking it is Russia? Sounds like Olaf and Habeck in Berlin preaching that Russia cut the gas supply to Germany. Bullshit times.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:37 am

    Update as requested on the oil spill. Bad time of year for it to happen.

    In Krasnodar Krai, 54 km of coastline must be cleared of fuel oil pollution, including 44 km in Anapa and 10 km in Temryuk District, the Ministry of Emergency Situations reported. - RIA
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    Post  mnztr Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:01 am

    depressing, they should get foreign mercs and Azovs to clean it up. Sad thing is its Mazut(or so I heard), that is NASTY stuff. BUT the + is in cold water it will turn to almost plastic

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    Post  PhSt Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:10 am


    This is a NAziTO operation. Make sure a similar massive and even more catastrophic oil spill happens in the United States east coast or in the English channel.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:49 pm

    This chart gives an indication of the rapidly falling EU stocks of NG even before the valves are turned off next Tuesday night. If Russia in turn 'shuts' the valves on the EU leased storage in Ukraine then it will be a very cold winter for many in the EU.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:41 pm

    Then there is this, Germany's import above the line and export below the line. At this time of year the NGPP come on stream a lot to make up for lack of sun and/or wind, NG that is getting scarcer and more expensive.

    Seems a bit ironic that the German Greens having killed their own NPP are having to rely on Frances's NPP to keep the lights on. Another nail in Germany's future as France will need its own NPP output if there are further crackdowns on Russian LNG imports.

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Dec 27, 2024 2:03 am

    Good that our enemies are such morons, what more is there to say?

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