The Russian motive for cutting supplies through pipeline for short time , was to retaliate in kind towards sanctions by Europe and support for the Nazis in Ukraine . It was meant to be short term , Russia hoping for resumption in the future , and before Europe finds new suppliers in the middle East , perhaps after a couple of years .
I disagree... the west is actively funding nazis to kill Russian soldiers and Ukrainian civilians... Russia can't just go back to normal after this is sorted out.
If Russia wanted to cut supplies they control the taps and can turn down and turn off gas when they please.
My guess is that this is Ukrainian or US instigated, because I think when Russia cuts off the west from gas it will be in the middle of winter... doing it now gives them time to sort out countermeasures and alternatives to soften the blow.
I suspect the plan is to wait till the middle of winter and then say they will no longer supply gas to any country who supports Kiev with weapons or money or resources, or subscribes to western sanctions on Russia.
And any short term gain by higher fuel prices for Russia , will not compensate for loss of revenue and strategic markets in Europe , and huge economic loss in the future .
Actually the economic damage to the EU will be significant and so Russian exports internationally for all sorts of things will lose EU competition, and it will push Russia to find new markets outside the west which is very good for Russia and the rest of the world too.
This will ensure no dip in price for gas which means the gas the Russians do sell will earn them top dollar so to speak... or should I say top ruble?
Maybe it was Greenpiss, or perhaps that moaning little bitch Greta that did this...
This attack is a strategic blow for Russia , even if pipeline is repaired , it sets a precedent for America to attack again , which they most probably will do , without any deterrent by Russia against them .
I disagree, and in a few years time when secret documents are released to show they sabotaged their own allies I think those bought bitches in Brussels will struggle to explain why they let the US destroy the EUs economy.
Russia should be enjoying this... the west is eating its own...
The immediate economic cost of repair must be coupled with the eventual huge strategic cost of loss of markets in Europe .
The EU is shifting into overdrive to find alternative sources of energy... and despite a few tricks like buying Russian gas from their neighbours pretending it isn't Russian gas any more, they are likely to find solutions and alternatives.
The most important thing is the effect on their industry that relies on this energy and chemicals which are going to have to move somewhere else... China? The US?
What happens when Russia stops selling Uranium to the US nuclear power plants?
1) Screw Nord Streams. Ain't no bitch in Germany deserves cheap gas again ever.
2) Russia need to take extra care in protecting the Turk stream and Blue stream. After blowing up NS, these lines would be the obvious next targets for the yanks. Even the undersea pipelines for the far eastern Sakhalin projects should be closely guarded.
Very much agree with both points but NS pipes were for Germany... and Germany basically broke up Yugoslavia and has been pushing Ukraine and all sorts of other shit on Russia... their golden time of cheap energy is over.
I would think pipe protection to Turkey will be at a reasonably high level for Turkey and Russia, but from Turkey to the EU is not really Russias problem... as mentioned, their future is cheap gas heading towards China and India and Asia in general... Even Japan if they can behave... but I doubt it.
Pipelines through North Korea to South Korea would be a good income for North Korea in transit fees...
Disagree that Germans don't ever deserve Russian oil or trade with Russia , this is a fatalistic and defeatist attitude towards Europe .
Right now Russia and Russians are considered evil... not human in the west... why do business with them while that is the case.
If the west grows up or the public finds out the truth of the shit the west has been up to, not just with Russia but with the rest of the world, then perhaps there might be something to talk about, but for the next 10-20 years Russia should look east and south for trade and allies and ignore the west.
Monies frozen , can be unfrozen .
Money frozen means nothing... when Russia takes all of the Ukraine all those huge areas of fertile farmland owned by big western companies like Monsanto etc etc can be nationalised and donated to soldiers and families that lost property and family members to the war the west created.
For the supposed 300 billion of Russian assets the west has frozen... likely in reality less than half that really... there will be three times that value of western assets in Russia and Ukraine they can seize and distribute to those who lost money and assets frozen in the west.
In fact many very wealthy Russians who ran away from Russia and took their ill gotten billions to the west have had property and money seized... they took it to the west to stop Putin seizing their ill gotten gains only for the west to steal it from them instead... really funny actually.
Euro-Asian economic union is not a dead project , after the yanks are defeated in Europe , and Europeans abandon them , the Road is clear for China and Russia to extend Silk - Road into Europe .
It is a dead project, but parts of it can be saved... instead of silk roads from Asia to Europe, they could shift them from Asia to the Middle East and then to Africa.
It is a trade route between markets so being on that route is a benefit because you can send goods anywhere on that route in either direction... the fact that it used to go to rich Europe to growing and increasingly rich Asia is going to change when German industry collapses and the EU starts to learn what they had and threw away... I can't see the Russians rushing to help them any time soon, but Africa has potential, India has potential, China is showing its enormous potential, and merchant fleets can be built to reach out to the Americas below the Trump fence line.
Either way, retaliation must happen
I would say the best thing they (Russia) could do is openly and publicly state they believe the attacks were made by the US, and that Russia has notified Germany of that fact and Germany does not want to take the matter any further. These attacks did no damage to Russia, in fact they essentially cut off the potential of using NSII to rescue Europe if the winter is particularly cold, so the only damaged party is the EU, but if they don't want revenge the Russia is not interested in that destructive game and considers the matter sorted.
It is essentially part of the US economic war on the EU of which Russia is not interested in getting involved in.
It's a question of another power having hard veto power over whom Russia trades with, and in which way, up to and including the physical destruction of trading infrastructure.
To rub salt into the wound they could announce that after inspection they can state that only half of the pipes were damaged, so they could still use them at full capacity because EU rules state they can only use 50% capacity anyway...
So we have a nuclear strike by yanks against Russia strategic economic interests ! And it has nothing to do with Russia ?
There was no nuclear strike. The Richter scale is logarithmic... on a science website it states: "A magnitude 4.0 earthquake is only equivalent to about 6 tons of TNT explosives," And this was described as a 2.3 magnitude event... the difference between a 4 and a 3 would make it 10 times less, which is 600kgs, and from 3 to just over 2 means 60kgs approximately... hardly nuclear.
What we have here is a Black Adder level "cunning plan" concocted by nincompoops.
Sounds like Baldric and General Melchett got together to father this one...