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    Post  Regular Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:33 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:There is also mullvad VPN which doesn't keep logs. Not sure about nordvpn.

    There is also proton vpn which doesn't keep logs either

    First of all, Nord VPN always does "Last minute!!!" offers. It doesn't have Russian servers anymore.

    Mullvad and Proton VPNs are very slow, but Proton VPN has Russian servers if I recall.

    Not true about any VPN's not holding logs. They absolutely all do.
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:34 pm

    Regular wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:There is also mullvad VPN which doesn't keep logs. Not sure about nordvpn.

    There is also proton vpn which doesn't keep logs either

    First of all, Nord VPN always does "Last minute!!!" offers. It doesn't have Russian servers anymore.

    Mullvad and Proton VPNs are very slow, but Proton VPN has Russian servers if I recall.

    Not true about any VPN's not holding logs. They absolutely all do.

    Not according to a case in thr US where mullvad was to submit the logs to court and they said they don't have them or keep them. Logs are made then destroyed. Automatic.

    https://protonvpn.com/support/no-logs-vpn/
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    Post  SolidarityWithRussia Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:37 pm

    RT is reporting that Russia has captured a key nuclear plant in Ukraine. I do not know further details, but I interpret this as a sign that Russian intelligence has serious reasons to worry about Ukrainian radicals who could launch dirty bombs at Russia. Maybe Nato was gambling that in such an event Russia would not dare to strike back at Nato, but if Russia would suffer such a radioactive strike, I think Putin would not hesitate to retaliate with his nuclear arsenal against the Western bloc (maybe including Israel).
    The Chinese government was strongly opposing Russia's spec op at first, but then they seemed to be convinced by Russia why they were forced to attack Ukraine. Again, I am just speculating here, but I think China knows about the huge risk caused by the reckless influence of Nato in Ukraine.

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    Post  EkErilaz Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:40 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Regular wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:There is also mullvad VPN which doesn't keep logs. Not sure about nordvpn.

    There is also proton vpn which doesn't keep logs either

    First of all, Nord VPN always does "Last minute!!!" offers. It doesn't have Russian servers anymore.

    Mullvad and Proton VPNs are very slow, but Proton VPN has Russian servers if I recall.

    Not true about any VPN's not holding logs. They absolutely all do.

    Not according to a case in thr US where mullvad was to submit the logs to court and they said they don't have them or keep them. Logs are made then destroyed. Automatic.


    Mullvad is run by part of the team from old pirate bay. They are internet "freedom" activists and very anti government, but also a bit.. woke.. im not 100% sure, but it seams likely they are the real deal.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:40 pm

    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:RT is reporting that Russia has captured a key nuclear plant in Ukraine. I do not know further details, but I interpret this as a sign that Russian intelligence has serious reasons to worry about Ukrainian radicals who could launch dirty bombs at Russia. Maybe Nato was gambling that in such an event Russia would not dare to strike back at Nato, but if Russia would suffer such a radioactive strike, I think Putin would not hesitate to retaliate with his nuclear arsenal against the Western bloc (maybe including Israel).
    The Chinese government was strongly opposing Russia's spec op at first, but then they seemed to be convinced by Russia why they were forced to attack Ukraine. Again, I am just speculating here, but I think China knows about the huge risk caused by the reckless influence of Nato in Ukraine.

    China wasn't against it. They just say the same thing as always "need for dialogue" but as Alexander Mercorus said in his latest videos, China strongly condemned USA saying it was their fault for this amd agreed with russias security concerns.

    China benefits the most though as it means cheaper products from Russia for them.

    Let's not forget, right after the UNSC meeting, US sent ships into Taiwan and disputed waters which pissed China off even more.

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    Post  Regular Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:42 pm

    Orlan wrote:

    Actually it's my friend that is in 45th and we have no info regarding his whereabouts, his sister I met once.

    mayor of Kupyansk made deal with Russians to jointly patrol city with Police, it's city in Kharkov region.

    Sorry, but didn't they temporarily confiscate all phones on Russian soldiers in the region because of OPSEC? Hence why tiktok videos stopped. If you don't know his whereabouts, it means nothing as phones are resting in the lockers at the moment.
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    Post  auslander Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:43 pm

    The much vaunted 'talk's between the Ukes and Russia were supposed to start early this afternoon. Ukes arrived to Byelorus a little late but not much, complained that for 'safety reasons' they had to travel through Poland, then announced they were tired and had to sleep. Which they promptly did, at least retiring to their rooms.

    Heard live by our in house native Russian speaker, VCO.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:44 pm

    auslander wrote:The much vaunted 'talk's between the Ukes and Russia were supposed to start early this afternoon. Ukes arrived to Byelorus a little late but not much, complained that for 'safety reasons' they had to travel through Poland, then announced they were tired and had to sleep. Which they promptly did, at least retiring to their rooms.

    Heard live by our in house native Russian speaker, VCO.

    Not off to a good start for Ukraine. I doubt Russians will be even willing to listen to Ukraine.

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    Post  RTN Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:45 pm

    Russian Chief of General Staff, Valery Gerasimov is dismissed from his position by President Putin.

    Your daily reminder how poorly Russia is performing in this war.

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    Post  Serberus Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:48 pm

    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:RT is reporting that Russia has captured a key nuclear plant in Ukraine. I do not know further details, but I interpret this as a sign that Russian intelligence has serious reasons to worry about Ukrainian radicals who could launch dirty bombs at Russia. Maybe Nato was gambling that in such an event Russia would not dare to strike back at Nato, but if Russia would suffer such a radioactive strike, I think Putin would not hesitate to retaliate with his nuclear arsenal against the Western bloc (maybe including Israel).
    The Chinese government was strongly opposing Russia's spec op at first, but then they seemed to be convinced by Russia why they were forced to attack Ukraine. Again, I am just speculating here, but I think China knows about the huge risk caused by the reckless influence of Nato in Ukraine.

    The Chinese are idiots if they do anything to show solidarity with the West
    They should firmly be behind Russia if they have any brains
    This should also be a wake up call to them as to what is in store for China as well
    In Australia for example where I am, a minor player both politicaly and militarily has been pumping out anti russia and china (their biggest trading partner btw) media campaing for years, there is a strong anti china sentiment here (and russia) and I am sure same thing is replicated in all western countries
    I literraly has some dumb Australian woman tell me she hopes all Russians die when I told her I support Russia’s right to protect itself againts NATO, its that bad
    I had morons at work telling me they are ready to fight China and Russia personally, even though I doubt they could point out China or Russia on a map
    Literal brainwashed drones.
    All these talk about how Russia will be seen by the west and westerners should be put to bed they were viewing Russia and China as the enemy long before this conflict started.


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    Post  bitcointrader70 Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:49 pm

    Sorry you guys can deny reality all you want. This is a botched op and Russia has taken more losses than they are willing to admit.

    There are clear as day videos of Russian conveys getting ambushed. They are real and not fakes. It shows that their airforce and drone use is not coordinating with the ground forces. There is tons of photos of destroyed Russian armor. The reason you don’t see a lot of Russian sources posted is that Russia to my surprise and happiness has actually had pretty good opsec as compared to the 2014 debacle where you had Russian soldiers posting selfie’s from your Ukraine on social media.

    They have also failed to take complete air superiority as evidence by Tb drones hitting their columns. Yes it’s probably a lucky hit. But it just shows Russia is not patrolling air space like it should. I don’t care if I get banned. You can drown in your delusions Garry. What’s sad is that you bring up the VDV guy who used to own this forum. He was hyper critical of the Russian MOD and government for the sorry military state. He got sanctioned by the government for some of his posts here. If he saw that 3rd world military move out he would be pissed.

    You are legit denying reality at this point. Russia probably will win this war. But they don’t look like a modern military with this operation.


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    Post  Isos Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:52 pm

    RTN wrote:Russian Chief of General Staff, Valery Gerasimov is dismissed from his position by President Putin.

    Your daily reminder how poorly Russia is performing in this war.

    Another one came trolling.

    Can we elect Mike as a moderator. He will do a great job.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:53 pm

    Serberus wrote:
    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:RT is reporting that Russia has captured a key nuclear plant in Ukraine. I do not know further details, but I interpret this as a sign that Russian intelligence has serious reasons to worry about Ukrainian radicals who could launch dirty bombs at Russia. Maybe Nato was gambling that in such an event Russia would not dare to strike back at Nato, but if Russia would suffer such a radioactive strike, I think Putin would not hesitate to retaliate with his nuclear arsenal against the Western bloc (maybe including Israel).
    The Chinese government was strongly opposing Russia's spec op at first, but then they seemed to be convinced by Russia why they were forced to attack Ukraine. Again, I am just speculating here, but I think China knows about the huge risk caused by the reckless influence of Nato in Ukraine.

    The Chinese are idiots if they do anything to show solidarity with the West
    They should firmly be behind Russia if they have any brains
    This should also be a wake up call to them as to what is in store for China as well
    In Australia for example where I am, a minor player both politicaly and militarily has been pumping out anti russia and china (their biggest trading partner btw) media campaing for years, there is a strong anti china sentiment here (and russia) and I am sure same thing is replicated in all western countries
    I literraly has some dumb Australian woman tell me she hopes all Russians die when I told her I support Russia’s right to protect itself againts NATO, its that bad
    I had morons at work telling me they are ready to fight China and Russia personally, even though I doubt they could point out China or Russia on a map
    Literal brainwashed drones.
    All these talk about how Russia will be seen by the west and westerners should be put to bed they were viewing Russia and China as the enemy long before this conflict started.

    Not all Aussies are the same. Here in Canada many understand russias concerns.

    I reiterate, China didn't show displeasure.

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    Post  auslander Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:54 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    auslander wrote:The much vaunted 'talk's between the Ukes and Russia were supposed to start early this afternoon. Ukes arrived to Byelorus a little late but not much, complained that for 'safety reasons' they had to travel through Poland, then announced they were tired and had to sleep. Which they promptly did, at least retiring to their rooms.
    Heard live by our in house native Russian speaker, VCO.

    Not off to a good start for Ukraine. I doubt Russians will be even willing to listen to Ukraine.

    Link to the foolishness just put up, VCO took a while to send it.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:55 pm

    Isos wrote:
    RTN wrote:Russian Chief of General Staff, Valery Gerasimov is dismissed from his position by President Putin.

    Your daily reminder how poorly Russia is performing in this war.

    Another one came trolling.

    Can we elect Mike as a moderator. He will do a great job.

    Posting the same fake again might I add. This is third time its been posted. I believe twice yesterday. No official post from Russian News. It would be big news if true and posted everywhere.

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    Post  mnrck Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:55 pm

    Russian Nuclear Triad Takes Up Standby Alert Duty With Reinforced Staff, Shoigu Tells Putin.
    Sputniknews reports

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:55 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:
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    Seriously Garry, Just ban all of them and block new memberships for at least 1 week. They are coming specially for trolling. I don't even look at their post like most serious members here. They are useless and destroy the thread which makes me want to leave the forum myself.

    I second this. These people need to be banned as well - Karl Haushofer, The Ottoman, bitcointrader70, Orlan.

    I don't agree re bans on long term members. Some of us may disagree with what they say and we can temporary 'ignore' them if we feel strongly about it.

    I do seriously believe that anyone new who joined in the last 10 days onwards should be at risk of say a 2 week ban if they clearly step out of line, not allowing them the latitude of long term members. Also those who go straight to posting without the Introduce thread entry need a shot across the bows.

    We should consider the extra work this puts on our Mods but at least it is a limited number of threads.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:58 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    billybatts91 wrote:
    Isos wrote:

    Seriously Garry, Just ban all of them and block new memberships for at least 1 week. They are coming specially for trolling. I don't even look at their post like most serious members here. They are useless and destroy the thread which makes me want to leave the forum myself.

    I second this. These people need to be banned as well - Karl Haushofer, The Ottoman, bitcointrader70, Orlan.

    I don't agree re bans on long term members. Some of us may disagree with what they say and we can temporary 'ignore' them if we feel strongly about it.

    I do seriously believe that anyone new who joined in the last 10 days onwards should be at risk of say a 2 week ban if they clearly step out of line, not allowing them the latitude of long term members. Also those who go straight to posting without the Introduce thread entry need a shot across the bows.

    We should consider the extra work this puts on our Mods but at least it is a limited number of threads.


    While I see your point, this conflict has really brought the sleeping morons (I would say agent's but that's being too nice) out of the woodwork.

    Some exodus is needed.

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    Post  Hole Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:59 pm

    We have so many trolls here gloating about one burned out russian truck I decided to post a few burned out Ukro vehicles:
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    Post  Yugo90 Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:59 pm

    I wish all the best for Russian heroes that defend their homeland from Nazi Ukrainans i hope they win and without huge casualties. I still think they could be more agresive and hit the banderas with TOS or Smerch. They really deserve it.

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    Post  Vann7 Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:00 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    I second this. These people need to be banned as well - Karl Haushofer, The Ottoman, bitcointrader70, Orlan.

    So you only like to hear always good news and not the not so good ones?

    There is no way anyone can say , allowing your army to be killed for not having close air support
    is a good tactic for the russian military..   most of this deaths by the russian military could have been minimized significantly had russia was fighting with combined drones support..

    If you don't critisism of obvious mistakes the russian military is doing ,then indeed is very sad ,
    your dilema, because prefer lies than to listen the truth..  Russia is winning the war? yes they do.
    but their execution many times is far away from what a professional army will do. and is causing a lot of casualties and guess what?  almost all western media noticed this big mistakes of russia..
    this is not anywhere close ,to the successful war that russia did in syria ,that was much more harder and difficult enemy.  No

    my best guess is that the russian army used in ukraine is not as experienced as the one they used in syria.. and so they saving heir best military and their drones for another bigger war , in case that it start. lets say ,a war with nato.. over belarus or kaliningrad. if that is the case,, then maybe it could explain this mediocre tactics they using at times in ukraine of not combining forces and not using close combat support or drones.

    This tactics Russian army are using ,will have been obsolete versus an NATO army ,armed to the teeth with many hundred of israel attack drones and loitering munition .. those russland forces will had not a chance to use their artillery or advance in skies infested with dangerous drones. with the very strong airforce and drones support they will receive , will had dozens of loitering munition harrassing russian conboys all the time. and their soldiers. Hopefuly the russian army will fix this soon and start providing more air cover to their army.


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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:00 pm

    Yugo90 wrote:I wish all the best for Russian heroes that defend their homeland from Nazi Ukrainans i hope they win and without huge casualties. I still think they could be more agresive and hit the banderas with TOS or Smerch. They really deserve it.

    While I sympathize, civilians should not be the targets. I am on Russias side here and more so because they are really restraint to prevent deaths of civilians.

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    Post  Hole Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:01 pm

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    Post  Hole Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:03 pm

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    BBC, baby. Where are the fact checkers? Rolling Eyes
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