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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #2

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:56 pm

    Ispan wrote:Here's my latest war report, a lot of sources and information and has been cross checked, we are advancig and the casualties are modest, hundreds for our side and a couple thousands for the Ukrops
    Via Yandex

    * Northern Fronts-Kiev and Eastern Front-Kharkov

    The capital is already surrounded by the West and Northwest after the capture of Gorostomel airport and the arrival of Russian columns from Pripyat. Yesterday afternoon there was another air landing at Vasilkov airfield, attached to the previous one near Zhytomyr, the siege is closed from the West. Russian forces are seven kilometres away in the centre of the city.

    Chaos reigns in Kiev after ten thousand Kalashnikov rifles have been distributed to the population, there are shootings and looting by armed gangs, a "party of hussars" as one commentator has said, recalling the raids of the light cavalry of the eighteenth century and the Napoleonic wars in the enemy's rear and the looting and extortion of defenceless cities.

    It is not known whether the Kiev puppet government is hiding in a Soviet-era command bunker in Kiev, it seems likely that they have not had time to flee to Lvov.

    More information about the Kiev siege maneuver here

    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/7466002.html

    A tower of flats in Kiev was hit by a missile, causing enormous damage, but fortunately there are no casualties. Apparently it's an impact from a diverted Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile. More information

    https://chervonec-001.livejournal.com/3981816.html

    In general, the Russians have taken Chernigov and Sumy and it seems that they have already reached Poltava, there is heavy fighting in Kharkov where a significant enemy force has been encircled, and the advance towards Kiev has met with more resistance,

    Donbass front

    The situation on this front is still static for the following reasons:

    The bulk of the Ukrainian army is deployed here, with 60,000 men on the front line, although before it was estimated that including reserves and rear services and total reached 150,000 and exceeds the attacker, which are the armies of Donetsk and Luhansk, plus the reinforcements of the Russian army, as the general rule is that to take a defensive position the attacker must overcome the defender in a ratio of 3 to 1, the break is not easy and that explains why it has only been attacked in two points. The Donbass or Novorussian, for short, are given the honor of reconquering their land, but they are not as well armed and equipped as the Russian army, so the fight is more difficult. The Ukrainian army has the advantage of defending fortified static positions for years, with extensive minefields and in this war of positions the disadvantages of lack of maneuver and interference of their communications do not affect them so much, and although morale is low, they can resist with artillery fire, machine guns and anti-tank missiles provided by NATO. The mission of the Novorussian army is to fix the enemy with a frontal attack while the Russian army conquers strategic objectives to force capitulation.
    In addition, advances are cautious and methodical, to save lives. And an additional complication is that the Ukrainian enemy uses civilians as human shields which limits the bombing of the towns in which the Ukros hide.
    In spite of all this, two points of the front have been breached:south of Donetsk and north of Luhansk, and the enemy's casualties, given the intensity of the bombardment, are counted in the hundreds, and by various videos one hundred Ukrainian prisoners are already counted. This includes those captured in the advance and those who pass, including dozens of soldiers from Brigades 36 and 53
    Here the official page of the reports of the army of the Donetsk Republic
    http://armiyadnr.su/activity/operativnye-svodki

    Here an extended compilation

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/02/svodka_narodnoj_milicii_lnr_ot_25_fevralya_2022_goda_obnovlyaetsya.html

    Highlights:

    Unfortunately, the sufferings of the people of Donbass have not yet ended. The Ukrainians as revenge, bomb everything in their power, as in the worst days of 2014-2015, in these two days, 2,000 mortar and artillery hits of all calibers cause damage to dozens of homes and infrastructure, 5 civilians killed and 20 injured.

    An even greater tragedy has been avoided, the enemy fired three Tochka missiles at the south of Donetsk but these were killed by the anti-aircraft defense. The remains of the missiles fell on Illovaysk, Amvrosievka and the city of Donetsk

    What gives hope is that the bombardment has diminished with the response fire of the Novorussians, the shelling and shooting is general along the entire front, as we recall, it is 400 kilometers long. The Novorussi have achieved the following objectives: Mayorsk, Verkhnetoretskoye, Novomikhailovka, Avdeyevka, Peski, Krasnogorovka, Marynka, Pervomaiskoye, Gnutovo, Pavlopol and Talakovka.

    Donbass Front North-Lugansk

    In Lugansk the front on Schastye has broken and crossed the Seversky Donets river, has taken Starobilsk and Severodonetsk without struggle and has reached the Russian border occupying Stanitsa Luganskaya, confirmed

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/02/v_lnr_zayavili_ob_osvobozhdenii_kpvv_quot_stanica_luganskaya_quot.html

    Severodonetsk (the administrative centre of the districts occupied by Ukraine of the region Lugansk; the center of the chemical industry, on the left bank of the river Seversky Donets, more than 100 thousand inhabitants; part of the agglomeration of 380 thousand Lisichansk-Severodonetsk), Starobilsk (also in the region Lugansk; 16 thousand inhabitants) and the settlement urban-type of Trekhizbenka were released.

    It is to be hoped that these forces will soon link up with those that have encircled Kharkov and be able to engulf the Ukrainian forces of the northern Donbass front from West to East.

    Donbass South Front-Donetsk

    On the Southern Front the advance towards Volnovakha is confirmed, there are photos and videos confirming that the Novorussians have taken the nearby villages of Nikolaevka, Novognatovka and Bogdanovka as well as the roads and adjacent areas.

    This operation involves Novorussian troops of approximately one division, three brigades and one regiment, or about 10,000 men.

    Also the 1st battalion of the 36th Marine Brigade fled their positions in the village of Zamozhnoye abandoning weapons and ammunition. The Novorussians show pictures of captured American anti-tank missiles.

    At 10: 00 a.m. today, Pavlopol and Pishchevik have been taken, and the battalion of the 36th Brigade has also withdrawn from Gnutovo and Talakovka. It seems that resistance is scarce on this front after having managed to break the defensive lines.

    "The military units of the Donetsk People's Republic inflicted significant damage on the Nazi battalions and reached Volnovakha, an important transport hub located on the H20 Slavyansk — Donetsk — Mariupol highway. The official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Major General Igor Konashenkov, reports: "During the fighting, a large number of weapons delivered by Western countries to Ukraine in recent months were captured. Among the trophies are the American Javelin anti-tank missile systems and British LAW"

    The fight has been hard, more information here, in an interview with Commander Khodakovsky of the Donetsk militia

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/02/tyazhelo_idet_nastuplenie_kombat_dnr_rasskazal_pochemu_do_sih_por_ne_vzyat.html

    Here are testimonies of frontline fighters, so that readers will remember that these are not arrows on a map or numbers, but men who suffer and die so that their mothers, fathers, wives, sisters and children do not die.

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/02/quot_u_nas_c_nimi_osobye_schety_quot_kak_razvivaetsya_nastuplenie_armii_dnr.html

    To note that although they hate the Ukrainian enemy of the 53rd Brigade and the Nazi Azov regiment, and rightly so, "he is respected because he fights skillfully and almost always refuses the offer to surrender"

    However, the resistance capacity of Ukrainian troops varies greatly. There are fanatical and well-equipped units that fight fiercely, and others that flee or surrender or pass.

    Southern Front-Crimea-Mariupol

    The Crimean Russian army, after the liberation of Melitopol without a fight, assisted by an amphibious landing in Azovskoye, has passed Berdyansk and is already fighting in Mariupol, it is reported that in the city there has been a landing and the Russian army advances to take the Ukrainian garrison of Mariupol from the rear. In Zaporozhe and Dnipropetrovsk without news, the Russian columns of the Crimean army have not yet arrived.

    South-West Front: the coast

    Kherson, there was a Ukrainian counterattack from the city, which had been overtaken by the Russian army, but to this day the city has been taken.

    Amphibious landing in Nikolaev and fighting in the city

    Odessa is calm, apart from an air strike against the anti-aircraft defense. The Russian army is at the entrances to the city.

    Odessa has a special relevance as a strategic objective. There are alarming reports that in addition to the Kiev regime's threat to acquire nuclear weapons, a U.S. biological weapons research program was under way. It is an issue that was already known from previous years, but it has taken on a particular urgency.

    "This month, two American military biological laboratories were planned to be launched in Ukraine, in Kiev and Odessa. Most of the Ukrainian collection of endemic strains of pathogens of dangerous diseases is stored in Odessa. The founder of the project is former head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Health Ulana Suprun. She's an American citizen.»

    More information about it

    https://octagon.media / vojna / specoperaciya_rf_sovpala_s_zapuskom_voennyx_laboratorij_ssha_na_ukraine.HTML

    War official part of the Russian army

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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:57 pm

    Orlan wrote:https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497535894093541380?t=5Uz13c8Fy0nLBaABpt6Rew&s=19

    😵💫

    So uh, ok, 1 jet looks OK.  A few people standing around....

    Are they expecting a Kalibr to be like a nuke or something?

    I know Rob Lee is a dumbass, but yeah...

    But thanks for providing free intel to Russia, maybe they can send some more missiles that way.


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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:58 pm

    https://thesaker.is/russian-operation-in-the-ukraine-end-of-day-2/

    https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/02/update-from-russ.html

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    Post  Singular_Transform Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:03 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Orlan wrote:https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497535894093541380?t=5Uz13c8Fy0nLBaABpt6Rew&s=19

    😵💫

    So uh, ok, 1 jet looks OK.  A few people standing around....

    Are they expecting a Kalibr to be like a nuke or something?

    I know Rob Lee is a dumbass, but yeah...

    Can't forget that these are propagande pictures.

    Outsied of the camera angle there can be piles of destroyed equipment.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:04 pm

    A belated question: I heard that Zelensky ran away from Kiev and is relocated to Lvov, isn't he ?

    Not long ago the pro-West news outlets praise Zelensky for his "bravery" in Kiev. Turn out he is not much different from Nguyễn Văn Thiệu.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:05 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:
    EkErilaz wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    EkErilaz wrote:
    Regular wrote:
    EkErilaz wrote:
    zepia wrote:Some air defense still active in Kiev?


    Yes s-300
    there are pictures from launch
    Like i said it is a AD guerilla war now I bet they are moving them around hide them in tunnels etc.

    It is against rules of war to deploy it like that , but since russia has already lost the propaganda war on normies it will be ignored.
    The problem for russia is that if the war turns to bloody, lets say massive strikes resulting in high numbers of civilian casualties.
    portrayed in western media as deliberate massacres, NATO might not be able to reason with politicians and civilians and be forced to escalate.

    NATO forced to escalate? With what? Glowniger faggot LGBTQ+ company? Let's be realistic. Their ability to escalate AT THE MOMENT is very limited.

    Honestly, I was an active soldier for 10 year, and 6 years as a reservist, and yeah the political woke posturing is not making NATO look great.
    I would never go back, due to diversity training etc alone. But make no mistake NATO has teeth especially when it comes to airpower and cruise missiles etc.
    Make no mistake, i fully support Russia in this war. They have the high ground.
    But I hang on the NATO fanboi OSINT pages as well, not partaking like here but it is good to know what the other side know, right. And they have with open source photo and radar satellites quite a good picture on russian deployment, rear areas, IADS shit like that. Imagine what a real NATO S2 shop would know. loosing logistics right now could kill the war, and quite frankly enough tomahawks could do that.
    No one is invincible in war because they are on a particular side, and no weapon system is impossible to deploy in a way that it works perfectly, just look at the ork ballistic missiles that got thru the s-400 umbrella in Rostov. War is not fought with weapon specs, but with deception creativity and brutality.

    Yeah in that situation the only thing that matters is if Topols and Bulavas will go through. Nothing else.

    Russia made it clear. No conventional war with NATO. Fire a tomahawk you get one of your cities leveled.

    I agree, and trust that they will do, but there are some delusional minds in NATO that might think it is a bluff.. If one nuke goes of, it is game over for all of us..
    There is no such thing as a limited exchange.


    Exactly, which means that everyone should act like an adult and all respect the current balance of power. This is exactly what is not happening from the governments of the tiny European vassal States, including Greece.

    For example, constantly threatening Russia, with a tiny constantly depleting population and a 30% Russian minority that suffers genocide and doesn't even have the right to vote is an example of begging to be liberated. This country, used as example, is called Lithuania. And a campaign there needs 1% the effort of a liberation campaign into Ukraine.

    Yes but the country has no value for Russia strategically.

    as long as there no missile bases pointed against Russia, it is not a problem. The "russian" minority there is not pro Russia, otherwise 30% of the population could already block the country.

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    Post  Isos Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:05 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Orlan wrote:https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497535894093541380?t=5Uz13c8Fy0nLBaABpt6Rew&s=19

    😵💫

    So uh, ok, 1 jet looks OK.  A few people standing around....

    Are they expecting a Kalibr to be like a nuke or something?

    I know Rob Lee is a dumbass, but yeah...

    You need at least 10 missiles to make a runway unusable. At least 50 missiles to destroy all the buildings and the runways. That's for a 1 runway small airport.

    If it is a bigger airport with 3 runways, side runway roads and tens of hangars you would need at least 100 missiles.

    Keep in mind missiles have the power of just a 250kg bomb. A su-34 can carry tens of such bombs and would be a better solution for anhilating an air base.

    Missiles are good to precisely hit fuel storage or planes but not that good at destroying an airport.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:06 pm

    Ispan wrote:Here's my latest war report, a lot of sources and information and has been cross checked, we are advancig and the casualties are modest, hundreds for our side and a couple thousands for the Ukrops

    Ура!!  russia


    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/02/26/parte-de-guerra-26-02-2022-1200-horas/

    So the axis of attack and zones of combat:

    Lughansk, has retaken Schastya and Stanista Luganskya , the border crossing, the main operational maneuver in this direction is to link up with the forces at kharkov 

    Donetsk, the forces are attacking towards marinka,  avdeyevka , pesky,  and volnovakha

    From the Crimean direction 22nd army corps have moved towards melitopol and moves to mariupol in concert with forces of donetsk

    Elements of the 22nd also are at kherson and perhaps await further moves toward the odessa direction 

    In the north, heavy columns surround kiev as well have taken Sumy and Chernigov, those two group try to link together and force the envelopment of other forces in the rear. 

    I know Russia retains in 2nd echelon bulk of the combined arms armies, 

    8th CAA probably waiting for LDNR NAF forces to wear down UKRs , 20th CAA some elements probably at kharkov but main reserve probably on hold

    The forces at Chernigov and Sumy must be other elements of the 20th , as well as 41st CAA

    In chernobyl and kiev those columns can be eastern military district, 1st GTA I wonder if any forces will join the fight 

    But it seems the join the fight piecemeal , slowly and tiring defenders 

    Still looks like bulk of combined army armies are in operational reserve

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    Post  Isos Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:08 pm

    Yes but the country has no value for Russia strategically.

    as long as there no missile bases pointed against Russia, it is not a problem. The "russian" minority there is not pro Russia, otherwise 30% of the population could already block the country.

    Not 30% anymore. Crimea and Donvas are gone. Ukraine is what's left west of the river there.and they may loose even that.

    They may even loose the south. Good way to link transnistria.

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    Post  Guest Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:16 pm

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    Orlan wrote:https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497535894093541380?t=5Uz13c8Fy0nLBaABpt6Rew&s=19

    😵💫

    So uh, ok, 1 jet looks OK.  A few people standing around....

    Are they expecting a Kalibr to be like a nuke or something?

    I know Rob Lee is a dumbass, but yeah...

    Can't forget that these are propagande pictures.

    Outsied of the camera angle there can be piles of destroyed equipment.


    That's true. But we are not expecting them to still operate fixed wing aircraft. They claim they flew 34 sorties last night, false or not they obviously still fly in some capacity.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:17 pm

    Orlan wrote:
    Singular_Transform wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    Orlan wrote:https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497535894093541380?t=5Uz13c8Fy0nLBaABpt6Rew&s=19

    😵💫

    So uh, ok, 1 jet looks OK.  A few people standing around....

    Are they expecting a Kalibr to be like a nuke or something?

    I know Rob Lee is a dumbass, but yeah...

    Can't forget that these are propagande pictures.

    Outsied of the camera angle there can be piles of destroyed equipment.


    That's true. But we are not expecting them to still operate fixed wing aircraft. They claim they flew 34 sorties last night, false or not they obviously still fly in some capacity.

    Ukraine doesn't have Su-34's.
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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:19 pm

    Nobody talked about occupying Ukraine. But russian troops could stay in Novorossiya.

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    Post  EkErilaz Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:21 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Orlan wrote:
    Singular_Transform wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    Orlan wrote:
    😵💫

    So uh, ok, 1 jet looks OK.  A few people standing around....

    Are they expecting a Kalibr to be like a nuke or something?

    I know Rob Lee is a dumbass, but yeah...

    Can't forget that these are propagande pictures.

    Outsied of the camera angle there can be piles of destroyed equipment.


    That's true. But we are not expecting them to still operate fixed wing aircraft. They claim they flew 34 sorties last night, false or not they obviously still fly in some capacity.

    Ukraine doesn't have Su-34's.
    I think he was saying that the number of sorties claimed flown by ukraine was 34
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    Post  Guest Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:21 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:

    Ukraine doesn't have Su-34's.

    That I know, I meant they claim they flew 34 sorties with their mig-29s and Su-27s.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:24 pm

    Hole wrote:Nobody talked about occupying Ukraine. But russian troops could stay in Novorossiya.

    This just occurred to me but:

    Does anyone remember how people said Russia couldn't handle with Ukraine which is the most powerful military in Europe, because they are too concentrated in Syria?

    Whats funny about it is that in Syria, Russia is using far more advanced weapons while in Ukraine, they are more or less relying on much older equipment and not going gung ho.  I mean, I would prefer if they used Orlan drones or some advanced weapon systems but I guess they are leaving that to the Syria campaign.

    Orlan wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:

    Ukraine doesn't have Su-34's.

    That I know, I meant they claim they flew 34 sorties with their mig-29s and Su-27s.

    I dont know if you have noticed but, Ukraine has claimed a lot of stuff.

    They still fly Jets but I believe most of those are coming from western region of Ukraine.


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    Post  The Ottoman Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:24 pm

    Brilliant tactical superiority by the Ukrainians. Let the Russian tank thrust advance recklessly and the start taking out the supply lines. At the end, the tanks will run out of fuel and be abandoned. Gosh the Russians are incompetent.

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    Post  Isos Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:25 pm

    Orlan wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:

    Ukraine doesn't have Su-34's.

    That I know, I meant they claim they flew 34 sorties with their mig-29s and Su-27s.

    They fly they planes but don't do much with them. Mostly above their airbases and at low altitude.

    Russia doesn't use it air force that much but they probably fly CAP above their troops or at the border allowing r-77 shots.

    They also have A-50U tracking those ukrainian planes.

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:26 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Orlan wrote:
    Singular_Transform wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    Orlan wrote:https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497535894093541380?t=5Uz13c8Fy0nLBaABpt6Rew&s=19

    😵💫

    So uh, ok, 1 jet looks OK.  A few people standing around....

    Are they expecting a Kalibr to be like a nuke or something?

    I know Rob Lee is a dumbass, but yeah...

    Can't forget that these are propagande pictures.

    Outsied of the camera angle there can be piles of destroyed equipment.


    That's true. But we are not expecting them to still operate fixed wing aircraft. They claim they flew 34 sorties last night, false or not they obviously still fly in some capacity.

    Ukraine doesn't have Su-34's.

    He meant 34 sorties.
    No offence to PD, but even Serbia managed to get some planes into the air from time to time. With far less airports/bases.
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    Post  Isos Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:27 pm

    The Ottoman wrote:Brilliant tactical superiority by the Ukrainians. Let the Russian tank thrust advance recklessly and the start taking out the supply lines. At the end, the tanks will run out of fuel and be abandoned. Gosh the Russians are incompetent.

    That's some dumbass stories. They say they suffer oil and food supplies but you can easily find them in any city.

    And they generally carry enough food for a week or more. It's only the 3rd day so another stupid propaganda piece from Ukrainians.

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    Post  The Ottoman Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:28 pm

    VARGR198 wrote:

    Nobody believes Russians anymore. You sweared by God 2 weeks long that you wont attack Ukraine.
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:30 pm

    Isos wrote:
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    Lurk83 wrote:Seems like Hungary is the only state holding out against kicking Russia out of swift now. Germany, Cyprus,Italy have all changed their position according to latest reports.

    Then they will lose their entire energy supply, same with supply of metals and other important stuff.

    Some kinzhal on oil installations in the middle east would also be worth if the western keep taking russian money. You want destruction then get it.

    I like this idea. Wipe out the Middle East oil production and watch the oil hit $400 per barrel.
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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:34 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Hole wrote:Nobody talked about occupying Ukraine. But russian troops could stay in Novorossiya.

    This just occurred to me but:

    Does anyone remember how people said Russia couldn't handle with Ukraine which is the most powerful military in Europe, because they are too concentrated in Syria?

    Whats funny about it is that in Syria, Russia is using far more advanced weapons while in Ukraine, they are more or less relying on much older equipment and not going gung ho.  I mean, I would prefer if they used Orlan drones or some advanced weapon systems but I guess they are leaving that to the Syria campaign.

    Orlan wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:

    Ukraine doesn't have Su-34's.

    That I know, I meant they claim they flew 34 sorties with their mig-29s and Su-27s.

    I dont know if you have noticed but, Ukraine has claimed a lot of stuff.

    They still fly Jets but I believe most of those are coming from western region of Ukraine.

    Russian forces use drones like Orlan-10. ASB news posted a first short video.

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    Post  The Ottoman Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:35 pm

    Isos wrote:
    That's some dumbass stories. They say they suffer oil and food supplies but you can easily find them in any city.

    And they generally carry enough food for a week or more. It's only the 3rd day so another stupid propaganda piece from Ukrainians.

    Like that Russian tank that crushed that civillian car with that old man in it for no reason?

    It was on tape and the whole world saw it at tv snd social media. Also propaganda?

    Russia lost the hearts and minds from day 1.

    Success with your young conscripts looting Ukrainian shops for food and get killed. So this was your modern and massive army that could steamrolled Europe?

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:36 pm

    That was a ukrainian tank, dumbass.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:38 pm

    Saw good analysis,

    Basically Russians have surrounded those major cities and these are the steps being taken

    First, approach and try to block or surrender the city

    Second, suppress the main enemy firing positions

    Third, make sure that the city is truly blocked (except for a few special corridors, see below)

    Fourth, hold your position and reconnoiter the outermost enemy lines (by fire when appropriate)

    Fifth, send in special reconnaissance groups inside the city to observe and coordinate attacks

    Sixth, once the city is surrounded/blocked and once you get a pretty decent picture of what is inside you take the next decisions which might include any of the following: open corridors for civilians to flee and for military personnel to surrender and cross over, determine the main axes of attack and begin slowly grinding down the opposition with heavy firepower (artillery, air, missiles).

    Seventh, once the city’s defenses have been sufficiently disorganized, begin a house to house mopping up operation by specialized forces.

    Drones will be used in step 6 , on the steppes in east orlans can cue MLRS, but lancet and other drones will clean out the Ukr cities of hiding UAF

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