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    Ukraine situation after DPR, LPR recognition by Russia

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    Post  par far Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:01 pm



    Nord Stream 2 was already canceled, it was canceled in Munich by the EU cocksuckers, that is why Russia recognized the two republics.

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:18 pm

    par far wrote:

    Nord Stream 2 was already canceled, it was canceled in Munich by the EU cocksuckers, that is why Russia recognized the two republics.

    As I say, build a pipeline to kaliningrad and call it a day. Eventually the Germans will be begging for gas and sell it below market but still massive amounts above normal.

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    Post  Isos Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:20 pm

    Or just bomb the one that goes through Kiev and put them in front of the fait accompli. Either buy through NS2 or no gas.

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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:22 pm

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:24 pm

    Well its looking like Russia has added to the economic crisis for the West, a diplomatic crisis. And the Ukraine is just an instrument here, in reality the stakes are far wider.

    Just another chess move in this whole thing

    There is the risk of war though and it can't be discounted.
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:29 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Flaming Python is KPRF , those people lost power due to endless concessions they made the entire time they had the reigns

    Gorbachev thought exactly like flaming,  they cared more about how they were perceived in the eyes of the west

    Which coincidentally is the reason they will never have a majority in the Duma or see the inside of the presidential office of Kremlin ever again

    That is why Flaming is shocked, because they the creators of Soviet capitulation policy, they get slapped in the face and do not know what to do except offer another revolution and dismantle the country 

    KPRF is like RINO party of USA. They are old people that are out of touch with their constituency

    They lost the cold war and forfeited Eastern Europe,  now they open their mouths on how Putin should conduct politics

    Thank you KPRF, your time has passed, please go to the pension line and go to grave in peace

    They need to remove the mummified lenin from Kremlin ASAP too, it makes these KPRF imbeciles think they are more important them they are

    All their seats should go LDPR, at least LDPR says it how it is

    I'm not KPRF, you're stuck in your own echo chamber. And I don't much care how Russia is perceived in the West. I care about how its perceived by its neighbours and the rest of the world.

    I'm cautiously optimistic that all this irredentist rhetoric towards the Ukraine will not actually be realized, and that the objective of everything is just to force the West to weaken its position in the UN and international diplomacy by bargaining away many of its cards over lesser countries in return for their support. While China will play good cop and eventually step in as an honest broker.

    If it is attempted to be realized of course then it would be a catastrophe.


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    Post  lancelot Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:30 pm

    The Saudis already tried to crush Russia with the oil price. The Saudis failed and blinked first.
    Now the US is talking to Qatar to give LNG they would have delivered to Japan to Europe. This should work swell... most of the Japanese nuclear reactors are still offline because of Fukushima.
    Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:53 pm

    franco wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:Folks, this situation obviously wakes a devil inside some of you.
    Maybe you should take a beer? Cold one? On me? welcome

    German not American I hope Very Happy

    There is no other beer then German. Anything else is piss.

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:55 pm



    The Former Indian politician is smarter than some members here, that's for sure.

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    Post  Isos Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:56 pm

    ELINT News
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    #BREAKING: Head of upper house of Russian parliament says Putin asked for permission to use troops abroad

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    Post  George1 Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:04 pm

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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:06 pm

    Recognizing the Donbass republics is Level 2 on the pain dial. Level 1 was keeping some troops in Belarus. The baltic minions freaked out, so much to any state can choose his own alliance. Very Happy
    Removing the ukrainian occupation forces from the Donbass will be one of the next levels. And a warning to the american occupation forces in Syria to get lost or being "Tsirkonized". Nice if you have real options not only screaming "sanctions!" all of the time something happens in the world.

    Concerning NS II: with that move Scholz broke his oath. He has to look after the well-being of the german people and not american oligarchs.

    Concerning the threat from "Ukraine" or american super-weapons like Tomahawk or "Dark Eagle" (the name "Grey Sparrow" would be more fitting, a SAM turned into an ABM missile turned into an SSM, amazing what you can get for1+ Trillion of "defence" spending a year) that Putin mentioned in his speech. Nobody in Russia fears this weapons. There is a wall of S-400 and modernised S-300 systems along the border, supported by the first S-350 and S-500 units with Nudol and S-550 coming soon. With mentioning this western weapons he laid the same trap as with the remarks about the indivisibility of security. Western reaction: every country can choose his own alliance. The truth: see the reaction of the baltic minions to the russian troops in Belarus. So if western weapons on the russian border are just a defensive and "peaceful" deterrence, Russia can base her own weapons anywhere.

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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:06 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:

    The Former Indian politician is smarter than some members here, that's for sure.

    Of course, he is much older then most of us. Very Happy

    All in one post to save space:
    Ukraine situation after DPR, LPR recognition by Russia - Page 7 Fmm0o710
    Ukraine situation after DPR, LPR recognition by Russia - Page 7 Fmmvup10
    Ukraine situation after DPR, LPR recognition by Russia - Page 7 Fmnghp10

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:09 pm

    Hole wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:

    The Former Indian politician is smarter than some members here, that's for sure.

    Of course, he is much older then most of us. Very Happy

    All in one post to save space:
    Ukraine situation after DPR, LPR recognition by Russia - Page 7 Fmm0o710
    Ukraine situation after DPR, LPR recognition by Russia - Page 7 Fmmvup10
    Ukraine situation after DPR, LPR recognition by Russia - Page 7 Fmnghp10

    My comment was aimed at: Python and bitcoinretard
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    Post  franco Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:11 pm

    Hole wrote:
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    ALAMO wrote:Folks, this situation obviously wakes a devil inside some of you.
    Maybe you should take a beer? Cold one? On me? welcome

    German not American I hope Very Happy

    There is no other beer then German. Anything else is piss.

    I'm a craft beer fan or Guinness if stuck there. American and even Canadian beer is piss. In fact I have been known to say a certain local brand is a byproduct of the local dairy industry... strictly cow's piss!

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:15 pm

    Anyway, can we please stick to facts and news?
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    Post  Krepost Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:17 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Anyway, can we please stick to facts and news?

    I am sanctioning German beer.
    That is the latest news and it is a fact.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:35 pm

    Hole wrote:
    franco wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:Folks, this situation obviously wakes a devil inside some of you.
    Maybe you should take a beer? Cold one? On me? welcome

    German not American I hope Very Happy

    There is no other beer then German. Anything else is piss.

    Unleash beer war now!!!! attack sniper lol! lol!

    Mike, release some steam bud Laughing

    Federation Assembly just passed the military assistance bill.
    They are free to go.

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    Post  rigoletto Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:38 pm

    I've just seen now on Sputnik or RT (can't remember) telegram channel the Russian Government clarified their recognition of the LDPR is on the borders they (LDPR) declared independence in 2014.

    This whole recognition move is quite interesting because now RF can provide as many guns as they want to LDPR while at the same time completely secure those territories as peacemakers, but since no one have recognized them this is still is a civil war for every other part. What means, provided the RF soldiers stay inside the recognized territories, LDPR can take over anything they want in Ukraine without the west (or whatever) being able to claim this is an external aggression.

    In this sense, the fact that (apparently) more then 50% of the Ukraine army is located around the contact line just make the things more interesting, because once the LDPR army pass them there will have little resistance later.

    [EDIT]

    It was Sputnik:

    "Kremlin says that Russia recognizes the LPR and the DPR within the borders in which they proclaimed their independence in 2014."


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    Post  Scorpius Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:40 pm

    The Federation Council approved the request of the President of the Russian Federation on the use of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation outside the national territory. This is an official permit for the entry of troops into the territory of the LPR and the DPR, obtained as a result of a legitimate procedure in accordance with the laws.


    The senators adopted this decision at an extraordinary meeting unanimously. Before the vote, Speaker of the Chamber Valentina Matvienko said that this decision is aimed at establishing peace in the Donbas, to stop the bloody civil war. Due to the refusal to sit down at the negotiating table with the republics of Donbass, there was a gap of distrust, Matvienko noted.

    "We proceed from the assumption that it will be a peacekeeping force," she said.
    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/22/02/2022/621504db9a7947c86b2c0ade

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:56 pm

    RTN wrote:Let's hope Putin doesn't execute his intelligence chief.


    How could VVP 'execute' him when there's been a moratorium on capital punishment in Russia for over 25 years you grotesquely misinformed greasy goofball sandwich! pwnd

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:08 pm

    https://sputniknews.com/20220222/bundestag-committee-nord-stream-2-suspension-harms-many-eu-countries-1093278242.html

    Bundestag Committee spanks Scholz and Baerbock ,German clowns are rupturing

    Hahahaha 97 per barrel of crude, and the Germans are cutting their dicks off

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    Post  par far Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:10 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    par far wrote:

    Nord Stream 2 was already canceled, it was canceled in Munich by the EU cocksuckers, that is why Russia recognized the two republics.

    As I say, build a pipeline to kaliningrad and call it a day. Eventually the Germans will be begging for gas and sell it below market but still massive amounts above normal.

    What you are saying is the best thing for Russia, Nordstream 2 was a German project.

    I think it is good to cancelled, it frees up Russia to make moves it could not make.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:19 pm

    https://www.rt.com/business/550254-europe-gas-price-double/

    Lol this shit is getting funnier and funnier

    Medvedev is saying EU will pay double for gas

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:20 pm

    par far wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    par far wrote:

    Nord Stream 2 was already canceled, it was canceled in Munich by the EU cocksuckers, that is why Russia recognized the two republics.

    As I say, build a pipeline to kaliningrad and call it a day. Eventually the Germans will be begging for gas and sell it below market but still massive amounts above normal.

    What you are saying is the best thing for Russia, Nordstream 2 was a German project.

    I think it is good to cancelled, it frees up Russia to make moves it could not make.

    Nothing is cancelled, Baerbock and idiots from green party have suspended certification 

    Daimler and Thyssenkrupp will sick the bundestag on them, watch the Intra German shit show

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