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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #32

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:47 pm

    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    Regular wrote:https://vk.com/wall-123538639_2193113

    Why in this day soldiers have to live in such conditions and starve? Covid, TB, Flu... A recipe for filling up medical tents without the war.

    You actually believe this? Can't be this dumb.

    Mother's of soldiers is one of Navalnys groups. Known to lie countless of times.

    Now they need to provide receipts of their claims. Otherwise, it's just stupid nonsense as usual.

    And this has nothing to do with the conflict. Please go spread your bullshit elsewhere.

    @garryb, please clean up this mess of a thread, while your at it, clean up the morons too.

    Those photographs, if they are recent, are from Banderastan.   If they are old, they are likely from the 1990s
    and totally irrelevant.


    It doesn't matter. Regular does this. He finds a non existing issue and makes some fucking big deal about it.  And gets called out.

    https://youtu.be/NPJ7EoO64Fc

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    Post  RTN Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:54 pm

    Hungarians in Ukraine have always wanted areas where they are in a majority to break up from Ukraine and join Hungary.
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    Post  Scorpius Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:02 pm

    The official statement of the press service of the Southern Military District about today's clash on the Ukrainian-Russian border

    "A unit of the Southern Military District compound, together with the border patrol of the FSB of Russia, prevented the violation of the state border of Russia by a sabotage and reconnaissance group from the territory of Ukraine.

    On February 21, 2022, at about 6 a.m. Moscow time, in the area of the settlement of Mityakinskaya, Rostov region, on the site of the state border of the Russian Federation with the Republic of Ukraine, a border patrol of the FSB of Russia detected the penetration of a sabotage and reconnaissance group.

    In order to detain the sabotage group, the border patrol of the FSB of Russia requested reinforcement from the unit of the Russian armed forces of the Southern Military district allocated for operational cover of the state border.

    During the clash, two infantry fighting vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine entered the state border with the Russian Federation for the emergency evacuation of the sabotage group from the territory of Ukraine.

    A unit of the Russian armed forces that promptly arrived at the place of the clash with fire from anti-tank weapons, both infantry fighting vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed.

    As a result of the clash, 5 violators of the border of the Russian Federation from the sabotage and reconnaissance group were destroyed.

    There are no casualties among the servicemen of the armed forces of the Russian Federation and the border troops of the FSB of Russia."

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:09 pm

    You have a direct source of that?
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    Post  Scorpius Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:17 pm

    ALAMO wrote:You have a direct source of that?

    https://ria-ru.turbopages.org/ria.ru/s/20220221/granitsa-1774091650.html

    https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/13784397

    the news has already been published in dozens of sources

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    Post  bitcointrader70 Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:39 pm

    If Russia wants to do a real false flag to go in than they should do it. No one in Europe or America believes that Ukraine is attacking now with Russia having 200,000 soldiers on the border ready to pounce. What’s the point of publishing these ridiculous stories even if they are true?

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:46 pm

    The heads of the DPR and LPR appealed to Putin with a request for recognition of the republics.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:48 pm

    Scorpius wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:You have a direct source of that?

    https://ria-ru.turbopages.org/ria.ru/s/20220221/granitsa-1774091650.html

    https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/13784397

    the news has already been published in dozens of sources

    Thx! Couldn't find it on the MOD web.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:55 pm

    bitcointrader70 wrote:If Russia wants to do a real false flag to go in than they should do it. No one in Europe or America believes that Ukraine is attacking  now with Russia having 200,000 soldiers on the border ready to pounce. What’s the point of publishing these ridiculous stories even if they are true?

    It's a game

    Same reason the US is pushing these ridiculous stories.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:57 pm

    par far wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/550069-putin-biden-meeting-macron/

    Drag race. Talk more.

    Lmfao but I thought the master players in DC had everything under control? 

    Or is it dawning on them that they have run out of time?

    Black is white?

    This is the ultimatum that keeps dragging and dragging. Supposedly it wasn't going to be allowed to be dragged. Meanwhile 2/3s of the Russian army are parked around Ukraine's borders. You know what U.S soldiers are doing? fucking girls, at home and abroad.

    Here is what's going to occur. Putin is going to get unconditional surrender terms once again, with sweeteners for the home crowd to be sold as a win for diplomacy and compromise. The loser always gets something, it's part of making a deal you can't refuse. Putin will have the choice of taking it or leaving it. Just as Putin's had it for the past 3 weeks+. Just as the Russians have had it since 1991 if you think about it.

    The off ramp as it's called. Confidence building measures will be plenty to reassure Putin's confidence is the western anglo-saxon word - best in class. All these negotiations need is for Gorbachev to be the main man in the ribbon cutting ceremony. A new age! lol1


    Why don't you go join them?

    What girls, you mean dudes lmao, the LGBT treehouse ain't doing no girls, they're getting accused of harassment by GI Jill or Joe with the new therapy treatment they get paid for takes em to the top of the NCO and CO positions 

    And the ones who get shafted by their female counterparts turn the other way a la Kaitlyn Jenner and Bradley, I mean Chelsea Manning

    These clowns were the ones claiming Russia was getting sanctioned to the stone age, and then that the conflict was all but guaranteed , 

    Then they turn around and call it a victory when vegetable is forced to meet Putin by a secretary from the EU no less

    What else can you do when the clown show out west pulls a PR stunt ? 

    Let's wait until February 30 for that invasion, but I think Nord Stream 2 looks ready to go

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:08 pm

    https://www.rt.com/russia/550119-moscow-claims-five-ukrainian-soldiers-killed/

    The UAF are desperate they have launched at least 5 or 6 suicide raids this week

    That vid flaming posted of them attacking DPR line and running straight into PKM fire shows the desperation of these fanatics

    They dont have the strength to launch big offensive, and these probes are costing them a fire squad each time

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    Post  nero Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:16 pm

    Quench your butt-cheeks, everyone. We'll see if Zhirinovsky was speaking the truth.

    The situation is quickly spiraling from fucked to... (you know)
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    Post  bitcointrader70 Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:24 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/550119-moscow-claims-five-ukrainian-soldiers-killed/

    The UAF are desperate they have launched at least 5 or 6 suicide raids this week

    That vid flaming posted of them attacking DPR line and running straight into PKM fire shows the desperation of these fanatics

    They dont have the strength to launch big offensive,  and these probes are costing them a fire squad each time


    Sorry I doubt Ukraine is doing anything. What are they desperate for? This comes straight out of the Russian propaganda book. Why would they run in and suicide themselves? And who would make them do it? For who? For what? Russia’s playing the propaganda game just like the west. No problems with me. But can’t believe people here actually believe it.

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:44 pm

    At an emergency meeting of the Russian Security Council, the issue of recognition of the republics has been raised right now!

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:56 pm

    Yea Russian security council meeting going on, everyone in the council sounded unanimous in their appraisal of the situation

    Let us see if Zhirik is correct
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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:58 pm

    Scorpius wrote:At an emergency meeting of the Russian Security Council, the issue of recognition of the republics has been raised right now!

    It is not going so well for the Kiev regime on the LOS. So there is no urgency for Russia to undermine the Minsk Agreements.
    Ultimately, Russia will recognize the LDNR and possibly other pieces of Banderastan as it falls apart.

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    Post  franco Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:01 pm

    bitcointrader70 wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/550119-moscow-claims-five-ukrainian-soldiers-killed/

    The UAF are desperate they have launched at least 5 or 6 suicide raids this week

    That vid flaming posted of them attacking DPR line and running straight into PKM fire shows the desperation of these fanatics

    They dont have the strength to launch big offensive,  and these probes are costing them a fire squad each time


    Sorry I doubt Ukraine is doing anything. What are they desperate for? This comes straight out of the Russian propaganda book. Why would they run in and suicide themselves? And who would make them do it? For who? For what? Russia’s playing the propaganda game just like the west. No problems with me. But can’t believe people here actually believe it.

    If you had been paying attention over the past couple of weeks instead of trolling, you would have remembered the intelligence warning from the NAF that apparently 2-3 groups of mostly Right Sector members had been formed to commit sabotage in the Donbas. There have been several intercepts along the line of contact however some apparently got through because there have been several bombings and a couple of saboteurs arrested along with killed. This unit was probably trying to circumvent the the Rebel lines by going through Russia. Getting captured was not an option to these die hard nazis.

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    Post  bitcointrader70 Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:16 pm

    I thought putin and Russia didn’t give a shit about The D and L now they want to recognize them. The fucking propaganda spinsters on this website are going to have to spin another 180 degrees. Russians stocks down as much as 15% just from this meeting. Shorted to hell.

    Where is Garry B and archangesk to tell us that this is a Ukrainian only issue and Russia doesn’t care.

    Recognising these republics is a shit pussy move. Russia will get sanctioned for this. Should just move in and make a land bridge to Crimea and grab some more cities and rich gas areas. Don’t go all the way to Kiev. A Russian partial invasion might actually do what a lot of people on this forum have been promising. It might make the Ukrainian government actually collapse. Like Georgia in 2008 was in complete disarray after.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:20 pm

    Man Putin has chewed Naryshkin out, putin asked YES or NO, when he said Yes, Putin asked YES WHAT, Naryshkin says recognize DNR and LNR as Russia

    Putin laughs,  that's not what we are talking about, we are talking of recognizing LDNR as INDEPENDENT republics

    Naryshkin: Yes yes yes

    Hahahaha

    Theres no spin asshat, like atlasclown, I already said WELCOME DONETSK AND LUHANSK albeit I said welcome to Russia so Mr. Putin would have chewed me out the same as Naryshkin 

    But it is what it is

    What is funny is all the western trolls glued to every word and comment made by the great leader 😂😂😂😂😂

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    Post  bitcointrader70 Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:22 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Man Putin has chewed Naryshkin out, putin asked YES or NO, when he said Yes, Putin asked YES WHAT, Naryshkin says recognize DNR and LNR as Russia

    Putin laughs,  that's not what we are talking about, we are talking of recognizing LDNR as INDEPENDENT republics

    Naryshkin: Yes yes yes

    Hahahaha

    Theres no spin asshat, like atlasclown, I already said WELCOME DONETSK AND LUHANSK albeit I said welcome to Russia so Mr. Putin would have chewed me out the same as Naryshkin 

    But it is what it is

    What is funny is all the western trolls glued to every word and comment made by the great leader 😂😂😂😂😂

    It doesn’t matter if it’s independent or a part of Russia. To Europe and America it is all the same.

    Part of Russia or an independent puppet state of Russia is the same thing. Welcome to sanctionville and a hardened NATO.

    Probably no NS2.

    Putin played this so badly honestly an all out invasion is not looking like a bad decision at this point. But he waited until ukrops have javelins and now Russian loss of life will be a lot higher.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:28 pm

    Hahahahahahaha

    When? On February 30? April 1? Hahahaha

    What Russian loss of life ???😂😂😂 hohols are dying in mass suicide charges not Russians lmfaooo

    Sanctions? Uhhh sir it would depend if it was a big invasion or just a small incursion

    Hahahahaha

    What a funny joke !!!!

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:31 pm

    "Colleagues, I have heard you, the decision will be made today" - Putin

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    Post  caveat emptor Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:37 pm

    Location of the incident points that this was a probably incident. Close to Stanitsa Luganska, just north of Severski Donets river.
    There is a distinct possibility that some nationalist circles in Ukraine want a major escalation to happen and are not under control of Ukrainian MoD.

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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:17 pm



    According to Shoigu there are 59,300 Ukrian proper military on the LOS.    

    Previous talk was about 125,000.   It now looks like propaganda huffing and puffing.   The morale of the Ukr army is in the toilet and
    all they have are Nazi militants which engage in terrorism.  Shoigu pointed out that he was not counting the Nazi paramilitaries that
    do not even have coherent command and control.    So it is possible that there are 65,000 Nazi dogs running around.   That is enough
    to do a lot of damage to civilians and civilian infrastructure.   This rather explains the evacuation of civilians.

    Shoigu also gave number for Ukr equipment:

    tanks: 345
    BMPs: 2160
    artillery and large caliber mortars: 820
    MLRS (incl. Smerch): 160
    Tochka U systems are present but no estimate was given.

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