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    Post  PhSt Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:52 am

    I'm just wondering, why is this piece of sh*t BBC crew still allowed to make propaganda videos inside Russia? If RT does that in NATzO soil their reporters will immediately get arrested  Rolling Eyes

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:19 am

    PhSt wrote:I'm just wondering, why is this piece of sh*t BBC crew still allowed to make propaganda videos inside Russia? If RT does that in NATzO soil their reporters will immediately get arrested  Rolling Eyes

    Well Russian propaganda wouldn't be very effective if Western propaganda wouldn't be allowed to be made about Russia.

    So I guess there's the reason

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Oct 22, 2022 2:10 pm

    Do you realize that those materials are taken from the Russian TV?
    There are common rules and copyrights to do so, Russian TV uses the others materials either.
    Nobody must "let the enemy in".
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    Post  PhSt Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:23 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Do you realize that those materials are taken from the Russian TV?
    There are common rules and copyrights to do so, Russian TV uses the others materials either.
    Nobody must "let the enemy in".

    I doubt if BBC even bothered to ask for permission to use the russian tv footage in their propaganda piece. Again, if Russians did this the entire NATzO media will be whining about Russian copyright infringement  Rolling Eyes



    Anyhow, this project in Russia called Zetflix is a good start

    https://zetflix.zone/

    Since NATzO has started an economic war against Russia, there is no reason for Russia to respect NATzO intellectual property rights attack

    Russia needs to set up more webpages that will offer free access to all NATzO copyrighted materials, not just films and tv shows but also hacked blueprints from big companies and even financial data, personal data of all employees etc. Russia needs to wreck and cause havoc to all NATzO financial institutions in every possible way.

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    Post  LMFS Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:15 am

    Definitely worth reading, about the origins of Anglo social engineering and the dystopian world where it is taking us:

    The Fall of the Tavistockians: Defeating the "Mother" of All Brainwashing

    https://davidgosselin.substack.com/p/the-fall-of-the-tavistockians-defeating

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    Post  TMA1 Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:01 am

    PhSt wrote:I'm just wondering, why is this piece of sh*t BBC crew still allowed to make propaganda videos inside Russia? If RT does that in NATzO soil their reporters will immediately get arrested  Rolling Eyes


    Are many Russians unaware of the neocon containment strategies? The proxy wars, the color revolutions and regime changes? That Ukraine is a puppet of the US state department? If say this was happening with Cuba and they were getting weapons from China, signed a defense pact with China, talked of nuclear weapons and retaking Guantanamo bay. We Americans would rightly kick the door in on Cuba and sack their government and secure our military presence.

    This is an analog of what Russia is in right now. How could Russians not see this? This is an actual legit purpose for them to stand up and be patriots. Any Russian that sides with the globohomo west in all this is either brainwashed or a traitor to their country. Just as I would be if I refused to defend the once blessed and glorious United States of America.

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    Post  TMA1 Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:20 am

    LMFS wrote:Definitely worth reading, about the origins of Anglo social engineering and the dystopian world where it is taking us:

    The Fall of the Tavistockians: Defeating the "Mother" of All Brainwashing

    https://davidgosselin.substack.com/p/the-fall-of-the-tavistockians-defeating

    Oooh boy that institute has an evil name and history. Will definitely read thanks bro.

    Edit: rethought my post

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    Post  andalusia Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:05 am

    Just saw this on the PBS show Frontline about a documentary discussing Putin's alleged war crimes in the Ukraine War:

    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/putins-attack-on-ukraine-documenting-war-crimes/


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    Post  flamming_python Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:30 pm

    https://theconversation.com/could-russia-collapse-193013
    Could Russia collapse?
    Published: October 30, 2022 8.02pm CET
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       Matthew Sussex

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    Among the many questions asked about Russia’s disastrous war against Ukraine, one of them is posed only very rarely: can Russia survive what seems increasingly likely to be a humiliating defeat at the hands of its smaller neighbour?

    On the face of it, the prospect seems almost absurd. Vladimir Putin may have been weakened by a trio of crucial miscalculations – about Russian military strength, Ukrainian resolve, and Western unity – but there’s no evidence yet that he’s on the verge of losing his grip on power, much less the Russian state imploding.

    There have been few significant demonstrations on the streets to protest against the war, against Putin’s leadership, or even against the mobilisation of conscripts. Those with the wherewithal to leave Russia for fear of getting drafted have already fled. And while there are likely to be significant economic shocks as Western sanctions begin to bite, some creative fiscal management by Moscow has dampened their impact so far.

    Indeed, by rattling the nuclear sabre ever louder amid blatant false flags about Ukrainian “dirty bombs”, the image Putin seeks to project is one of strength, not fragility.
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    Cognitive biases among Western commentators can also play a role when making judgements about authoritarian states like Russia, leading us to see weakness when in fact it is absent. After all, nobody seriously thought the United States would disintegrate after its ignominious withdrawal from Vietnam, or Iraq, or Afghanistan for that matter.

    But there are three good reasons why we should not discount the possibility that defeat in Ukraine might make the Kremlin’s edifice crumble, leaving Russia difficult to govern in its entirety, or at least its present form.

    1. It has happened before

    First and most obvious – it has happened before. And in an historical sense, it has happened relatively recently, with the collapse of the USSR in 1991 rightly considered a seismic event in world politics.

    The rub is that nobody predicted the end of the USSR either.

    In fact, it was confidently assumed in the West that Mikhail Gorbachev would go on ruling the Soviet Union, until the hard-line coup that failed to topple him (but left him mortally wounded in a political sense) made that view obviously redundant.

    2. Lack of viable alternatives to Putin

    Second, the distribution of political power in Russia means there are no viable alternative answers beyond Putin. Part of this is deliberate: Putin has constructed the state in his own image, making himself inseparable from any major question about Russian society and statehood.

    Eschewing an imperial title, but acting in accordance with its precepts, Putin is Russia’s tsar in virtually everything but name. But that also means there is no patrilineal succession plan, nor anyone in his increasingly shrinking orbit of semi-trusted courtiers who readily stands out as a replacement. It’s difficult to imagine a successor who could command respect and wield authority to unite the competing Kremlin cliques – groups that Putin himself encouraged to form in order to ensure their weakness and continued fealty.

    Names like Sergei Kiriyenko, Nikolai Patrushev and Sergei Sobyanin are often bandied around when analysts play speculative “who succeeds Putin?” games. But each of them have either irritated Putin, given him cause to mistrust them, or would struggle to bring the different clans together.

    3. Ethnic tensions

    A third reason Russia’s ongoing viability in the wake of defeat in Ukraine isn’t totally assured is that the war has exacerbated cracks between the privileged Russian political core and its ethnically concentrated periphery. Part of the mythos beloved by Russia’s far right is that Russia is the “Third Rome”, a necessary great power that unites people from different ethnic and religious backgrounds and prevents them from fighting one another.

    Given the relative poverty of Russia’s minorities, it’s unsurprising they tend to be over-represented in the military. We know, for instance, that Russia’s military casualties have come disproportionately from Russia’s poorest ethnic groups: Dagestanis, Chechens, Ingush, Buryats and Tuvans.

    We also know the Kremlin’s campaign to draft an additional 300,000 personnel for service in Ukraine was similarly targeted along ethnic lines. That shields the residents of Moscow and St Petersburg, keeping the war an abstract phenomenon that only touches their lives in peripheral ways.

    But it also means those on Russia’s periphery are effectively being used as cannon fodder.

    If Russia were to fracture, where and how might this come about?

    The North Caucuses would be the most likely centre of gravity. Of the few demonstrations against the Kremlin’s military mobilisation campaign, those in Dagestan have been the most visible, including violent clashes with riot police. But attention is now also turning to Chechnya, where attempts to secede from Russia led to two wars: from 1994 to 1996; and from 1999 to 2009.

    Ramzan Kadyrov, the outspoken Chechen leader, has been kept on a fairly tight leash by Putin since being installed in 2007, and has been one of his most vigorous supporters. But this again underscores the fragility of Putin as the key to keeping others in check.

    Kadyrov has few friends in Moscow beyond the Russian president, and he has emerged as a leading critic of Russia’s military leadership – particularly Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu. On October 6 he followed the suggestion by Kiril Stremousov, the Moscow-backed chief of occuptied Kherson, that Shoigu should consider suicide with the claim that General Oleksandr Lapin, a Shoigu ally, should be sent to the front lines to “wash away his shame with blood”.

    The concern here is that should Putin exit the political stage, Kadyrov would be very difficult to control. He has what amounts to his own private army (the Kadyrovtsy, who are loyal to him and have been implicated in numerous human rights abuses). More than that, he could be incentivised to exploit a power vacuum by seeking greater independence.

    This is important because Russia’s multi-ethnic makeup has not erased ethnic identities and ideas about nationhood.

    History is instructive here on two counts. One is that the dissolution of the USSR in 1991 was not brought about by Gorbachev, its last general secretary. Rather, the Soviet collapse was engendered by Boris Yeltsin, then-leader of the Russian Republic – as the largest part of the USSR – and the first president of the new Russian Federation.

    More broadly, the end of the Soviet Union came about due to simultaneous national revolutions, with Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic States and the Central Asian former republics of the USSR all choosing self-determination rather than continuing to be part of the Soviet empire.

    A second historical fact is that the end of the USSR saw the creation of four new nuclear-armed states: Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia and Ukraine. But the lesson of Ukraine in 2022 – which in 1991 was the most reluctant of the three non-Russian countries to hand control of the nuclear weapons on its territory back to Moscow – is that it’s vital to retain every instrument of power as potential insurance.
    Gradually, and then all at once

    This is why, aside from the human rights emergency it would represent, a fragmented Russia (or one in the middle of a civil war) would put regional and global security in a precarious position. Even a localised breakup would inevitably be along ethnic lines, and potentially create a variety of nuclear-armed aspirant statelets.

    And while the end of the Soviet Union literally reshaped the map of Eurasia, any contemporary splintering of Russian power would potentially be far more dangerous, with no guarantee a potentially bloody domino effect could be averted.

    So is it speculative to talk about a future Russian collapse? Yes. Is there evidence it is imminent? No. But in many ways that’s the problem: when authoritarian regimes implode, they tend to do so very quickly, and with little warning.

    Hence in the Russian case, it’s important to consider all possible eventualities, even if they might appear implausible at the moment.

    And, if nothing else, it’s always better to be pleasantly surprised than blindsided by events we inconveniently decided not to foresee.
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    Post  Hole Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:03 pm

    The guy must use some heavy drugs.  Embarassed

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:22 pm

    A lot of bs. 

    Anyway, the collapse is much more probable in the US.
    By the way, if we do a comparison with the fall of Soviet Union, who is Biden?

    Chernenko, Gorbachev or Eltsin?
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    Post  Hole Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:54 pm

    I hope he ends like the guy in Romania.  Wink

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    Post  GarryB Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:29 pm

    I hope he ends like the guy in Romania.

    Is it evil to want his end to be more like a certain dictator of Italy... in the middle of the 20th century...

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:17 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    I hope he ends like the guy in Romania.

    Is it evil to want his end to be more like a certain dictator of Italy... in the middle of the 20th century...
    With all his mistakes (that were a lot, but many of them were also caused by the treatment that other European countries, England and France in primis, reserved to Italy after WW1, and we were basically pushed into the embrace of Nazi Germany in the 30s) at least he did not hate his own country and did not only seek his own benefits. 

    If only he refused to let Italy become basically a Nazi german protectorate after 1938, pushing for neutrality (and avoiding the stupid racial laws) and avoiding to be involved in a war that was of no interest for Italy he could have been remembered in a quite different way.

    Nevertheless I find that his end was excessively cruel (and especially his lover did not deserve to share the same fate), especially in comparison to how lightly the idiot, asshole and traitor king of Italy was treated.

    But yeah, I believe that many current (Italian and not) politicians deserve also to have a nice spot in Piazzale Loreto in Milano.
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    Post  flamming_python Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:45 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    I hope he ends like the guy in Romania.

    Is it evil to want his end to be more like a certain dictator of Italy... in the middle of the 20th century...

    He and his entire globalist cabal should be tried in an international court, for all the crimes and chaos these neo-cons have committed over the past 30 years, and their ambitions to dictate to the whole planet.

    A true international court that is, not the kangaroo court they've turned the Hague into.

    But of course I'd turn the other way if poison pills were smuggled into their cells. Should be up to them ultimately.

    That's a lot better treatment they ever afforded Gaddafi or Saddam. But no need to stoop down to their level.
    The Milosevic treatment. A nice civilized white man's one.
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    Post  andalusia Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:21 pm

    More false propaganda from the US; what do you guys think of this?



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    Post  AlfaT8 Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:15 pm

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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:47 am

    Hahaha... Russian nukes don't work and Russia is about to collapse... it is hilarious when you recognise that most western propaganda is reflection... these people are seeing their lack of investment in their nukes and the fragility of the west and realising their nukes might not work and that the EU might grow a pair and start realising the US is pushing them off a cliff... they are panicking and thinking about what might happen to the west by pretending it might happen to Russia.

    Funny.

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    Post  Scorpius Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:05 pm

    GarryB wrote:Hahaha... Russian nukes don't work and Russia is about to collapse... it is hilarious when you recognise that most western propaganda is reflection... these people are seeing their lack of investment in their nukes and the fragility of the west and realising their nukes might not work and that the EU might grow a pair and start realising the US is pushing them off a cliff... they are panicking and thinking about what might happen to the west by pretending it might happen to Russia.

    Funny.
    ...according to my data, during practical tests on the launch of Topol rockets with expired shelf life, the rates of unsuccessful launches amounted to about 10%. Thus, it can be concluded that for weapons in service, the number of successful launches will be 95-97%.
    In any case - even if the number of refusals is 50% - both the USA and Europe will still be dead. 6000 nuclear warheads or 3000 - the difference will not be noticeable.

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    Post  Arrow Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:36 pm

    Russia has around 1,500 strategic nuclear warheads in combat readiness.6000 is maybe in stock with tactical loads.
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    Post  andalusia Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:45 pm

    Ridiculous US propaganda about Russia fighting Negroes.  




    https://truthaboutrussia.quora.com/?__ni__=0&__tiids__=82321089&__filter__=all&__nsrc__=notif_page&__sncid__=32819760738&__snid3__=44135483887#anchor
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    Post  andalusia Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:50 am

    US criticism about future Russia tyranny propaganda  Laughing :


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-warns-russias-potential-global-220843225.html
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    Post  kvs Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:55 am

    I am old enough to remember. The west was not worried about keeping its proles on the information plantation during the Cold War.
    But today it is imposing censorship and cancel culture (not just deplatforming but destroying lives) since it is clearly no longer able
    to keep the proles on the plantation.

    The totalitarianism is blooming in the NATO west.

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    Post  AlfaT8 Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:47 am

    These people are so full of it.

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    Post  kvs Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:20 am

    The problem is that such drivel keeps being spewed and few are aware enough to get tired of it. It is as if the consumers of
    this shit do not have the memory retention and the intellectual maturity.

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