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    Post  Hole Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:57 pm

    You have to repeat the lies over and over again.

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    Post  andalusia Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:10 am

    It is ironic that the US used Soviet style land reforms in Asia to counter the spread of Communism:


    https://www.rbth.com/international/2017/01/31/how-the-us-used-soviet-style-land-reforms-to-counter-communism-in-asia_692431

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    Post  Scorpius Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:04 am

    PhSt wrote:NATzO's extreme delusions of superiority is very nauseating. As if an attack on Russian territory by NATzO will not prompt Russia to obliterate America and its chihuahua vassals with nuclear weapons  Laughing


    The dumbest video about the upcoming fighting of all that I have seen. What will happen in reality: 1. The United States is completely deprived of satellite communications of the orbital grouping.
    2. The United States receives a couple of Poseidons to the fleet's home areas.
    3. European airfields were destroyed in a few hours by Iskander strikes with nuclear warheads.
    4. The US and NATO command centers were destroyed by hypersonic missiles.
    5. American troops have turned into sitting ducks without logistical, aviation and information support. Tens of thousands of corpses of the American military. In addition, millions died on the US coast after the Poseidon attacks.
    6. The final exchange of thermonuclear strikes. Billions of deaths. The end of the story.

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    Post  sepheronx Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:51 am

    Backman wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:[youtube]b0O144KhI

    That garbage is all over YT now. There's "why the Russian _______ failed in Ukraine" for every piece of military equipment you can imagine. And for every service. Why the airforce, Navy and govt failed in Ukraine.

    I just don't understand what the point of all of this internal propaganda is. It was already part of the Anglo psyche that Russia is the worst at everything in life. Their economy sucks, their military sucks, their food tastes bad ect.

    Somehow I doubt the Russian media has equivelants to this. They are probably adults

    The reason is because Russia is currently proving their narrative to be completely false. So they have to up the game by using retards who have zero idea what is actually going on or how militaries work, to put trashy youtube videos of fake knowledge in order to convince the retarded masses that their narrative is true regardless if it's false.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:09 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    The reason is because Russia is currently proving their narrative to be completely false. So they have to up the game by using retards who have zero idea what is actually going on or how militaries work, to put trashy youtube videos of fake knowledge in order to convince the retarded masses that their narrative is true regardless if it's false.

    That is the only thing they can do. Produce crap.
    Keep in mind, that we are talking about a generation long lasting project to put any possible load of shit on Russia's back, and to begin with as early as possible.
    Let it be in the kindergarten, a kid's book about nasty bears is already one.
    As was revealed a long time ago, game developers can apply for additional resources paid by US official agencies, if they will include the Russkies as negative figures in the game. A whole series of Battlefield is filled with that crap.
    Yesterday I have heard, that the latest movie with Stanton is to be delayed again, because ... they need to censor it and remove all pieces of the Ukrainian mafia that were there. Probably they will masquerade them as Russians in the dialogues or something.
    It is really nothing new, just the methods and the arsenal changed with ages. Anglosaxon propaganda towards Russia was always there, no matter if they were ruled by the tsar, communists, or democratic. It is irrelevant.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:09 pm

    It is ironic that the US used Soviet style land reforms in Asia to counter the spread of Communism

    Secret redition sites around europe and a gulag in Cuba... it is not the only things they copied...

    The reason is because Russia is currently proving their narrative to be completely false. So they have to up the game by using retards who have zero idea what is actually going on or how militaries work, to put trashy youtube videos of fake knowledge in order to convince the retarded masses that their narrative is true regardless if it's false.

    Think of them as Infomercials... specialised adverts for things you wouldn't think about buying... except at 3am when you are drunk and it seemed like a good idea then.

    When the junk arrives you realise it is junk and when you call them and ask for your money back they keep three quarters of your money because that is postage and packaging they will say.

    Reality is a bitch. But we in the west keep falling for that shit time and time again... ...just because something is a clever solution to a common problem you also have to factor into account how many times you have had that problem in your life and also how often it will ever happen again... waste of money.

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    Post  Scorpius Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:10 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    Secret redition sites around europe and a gulag in Cuba... it is not the only things they copied...


    ...except that the stories about the gulags are complete anti-Soviet nonsense, which was picked up by Western propaganda.
    It is quite interesting that in the West they completely miss some facts about Solzhenitsyn:
    1. He was an informant in prison,
    2. In the "terrible" Gulag, his life was saved by timely diagnosing and curing cancer.
    3. His works are completely anecdotal stories, not based on any documents.
    4. He has never been to most of the places he describes

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    Post  Hole Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:21 pm

    His book is 90% fiction. Like a novel by S. King. Maine is real, some of the cities are real, the rest is fake.

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    Post  Sprut-B Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:57 pm

    The big difference is that the Murican anchor has Botox injected lips. This is the level decadency of the Western society where even so called cuckservatives anchors are no different than some plastic augmented porn stars.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:19 pm

    some resentment against the EU.
    I fully agree with.

    Serbia:
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    an banner in Germany.
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    sorry for any german speaking member here, German is not my first language.

    "Dear Russians, you are not our enemy's, our enemy's sit in Washington, Geneve, Brussel, Berlin, Magdeburg. Jessen (germany?)
    They call themselves "friends", "WHO", "EU" "german government", "country government" and "Mayor".

    We apologise for the behavior of our "government". and the war hungry media (ARD, ZDF, MDR, Mitteldeustsche zeitung)
    that want to push us into world war 3!. We will not allow to let that happen!.

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    Post  andalusia Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:27 am

    Just saw this report about Russian charged with spreading propaganda:

    https://www.amren.com/news/2022/08/russian-charged-with-using-us-groups-to-spread-propaganda/


    https://www.breitbart.com/news/russian-charged-with-using-us-groups-to-spread-propaganda/

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    Post  nomadski Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:07 am

    The BBC , a state funded and minority controlled apparatus , is a far more effective tool of spreading disinformation . The British state , confronted with the cost of living crisis , a direct consequence of extremist right wing policies of Brexit and support of Nazis in Ukraine , now hides the truth from the British public by manipulating the news . Ukraine no longer an overt and popular topic of conversation . Instead the BBC , participated in the aggrandizement of " human interest stories " such as the death by euthanasia of young and handsome boy , by turning - off life support for him . The real criminals are the gang controlling British " media " . This was the " news " , and main title of most papers for days ! In France , they could not find a dying boy , so instead they found a dying Whale in a River !


    https://news.sky.com/story/archie-battersbee-12-dies-after-life-support-is-turned-off-12633585


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PWC7Y6bi3wQ

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    Post  calripson Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:04 pm

    There have been a series of public statements by British officials regarding Putin's likely use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine. This is clearly the ultimate wet dream fantasy of the architects of this war - an exhausted Russia pushed to the brink of a humiliating defeat forced to rely on nuclear weapons. They have in mind limited tactical nuclear weapon use on Ukrainian soil - no one thinks Putin has the balls to actually strike a NATO country. This scenario plays out with an outraged world and domestic audience leading to an overthrow of Putin and an eventual disarmament of Russia as a nuclear state with of course a "new deal and new era for a peaceful and prosperous Russia" brought under the benign wing of the NWO. The Khodorkovsky's of the world get to reclaim their assets and Russia gradually fragments into multiple states under a "federated" model.
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    Post  Backman Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:40 pm

    Peter Zeihan is one of the worst and most overrated geopolitical analyst in the world. I've known about this idiot for awhile now. But he is getting more popular than he was. He does a lot of Youtube ads. He's come up in my ads multiple times. It goes without saying that he gets media grant money from the US govt/think tank complex.

    Peter Zeihan is in the business of telling Americans what they want to hear.

    Millennium 7 did a video on the guy specifically about the nonsense he says about the Chinese navy and non US militaries.



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    Post  kvs Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:41 am

    The latest Firefox updates are screwing with the TLS connections to Russian video websites. I cannot reach certain videos anymore.
    But using the Tor browser I can see them. I know that VPN is supposed to avoid site blocking but this is not site blocking, this is
    sabotage from Firefox.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:25 am

    Yeah, this bullshit started a few years ago with claims by US thinktank experts (ie experts in spin and bullshit) that there was a risk that Russia was designing and building low energy nukes for their missiles... of the sort of bunker buster level nukes the US idiots were toying with when they realised conventional weapons just didn't have the power to collapse bunkers unless you knew exactly where they were.

    The result was the claim that low yield nukes would be OK if it meant taking out the enemy heads... but perhaps that didn't sit well with the decision makers in the western military or civilian leaders because that would lead to Russia developing the same thing of which they would be the target.

    Imagine WWIII where their survival is not assured? Unacceptable...

    Well the thing with nukes is that you make them really big for a couple of reasons... to take out the enemy population by flattening entire cities or to take on super hardened enemy locations like the floors below the Pentagon or SG-1 mountain etc etc.

    The problem of course is like the cluster bomb problem with conventional explosives... really hard targets and bigger heavier bombs are more effective, but for soft targets big bombs are not efficient at all and in fact tiny bombs scattered evenly over the area are rather more effective at getting good quality coverage.

    Hitting a huge city like London with a single heavy nuke... say a 5 megaton bomb would do terrible damage over a wide area... but actually if you placed 5 x 500Kt bombs in a pattern across London the devastation would be more complete with a much larger area of destroyed ground even though on paper only half the energy is being released.

    A 1 megaton bomb does not destroy an area 5 times smaller than a 5 megaton bomb, or more accurately making the bomb 5 times bigger does not increase the destruction area by 5 times.... the centre of the blast is totally destroyed, while the 5 times increase in power will modestly increase the destruction area.

    Having multiple much smaller blasts placed around the city would be more effective in bringing houses and buildings down and killing people.

    Another reason for smaller warheads is they are easier to make and are cheaper and as accuracy improves their reduced power becomes less relevant.

    If you are dropping bombs on a target but can't reliably hit the target then you have to use the biggest bombs you have and even then you might need to attack the target multiple times to assure its destruction.

    With real precision you attack once with a bomb big enough to get the job done.

    Anyway the think tank decided that the Russians were making very low yield nukes in the hopes of being able to use them in a conventional war... presumably to allow them to compensate for a lack of conventional capable/firepower.

    I rather suspect the think tank has realised that smaller nukes are cheaper and easier to carry in numbers and their best way of getting such weapons approved for their own forces would be to claim the Russians have them already... so obviously we need them.

    The amusing thing is that everything they try to do to get Putin kicked out of office seem to make him more popular at home and internationally outside the west of course.
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Aug 14, 2022 1:29 am

    kvs wrote:The latest Firefox updates are screwing with the TLS connections to Russian video websites.   I cannot reach certain videos anymore.
    But using the Tor browser I can see them.   I know that VPN is supposed to avoid site blocking but this is not site blocking, this is
    sabotage from Firefox.


    Use Yandex browser. It is very good and offers even real time translation of foreign languages in videos to russian language.

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    Post  lancelot Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:37 am

    kvs wrote:The latest Firefox updates are screwing with the TLS connections to Russian video websites.   I cannot reach certain videos anymore.
    But using the Tor browser I can see them.   I know that VPN is supposed to avoid site blocking but this is not site blocking, this is
    sabotage from Firefox.
    You are probably getting locked by some Western certificate authority.

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    Post  kvs Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:28 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    kvs wrote:The latest Firefox updates are screwing with the TLS connections to Russian video websites.   I cannot reach certain videos anymore.
    But using the Tor browser I can see them.   I know that VPN is supposed to avoid site blocking but this is not site blocking, this is
    sabotage from Firefox.


    Use Yandex browser. It is very good and offers even real time translation of foreign languages in videos to russian language.

    I will try it, but I don't like Yandex. The rubbish search engine triggers a captcha verification spasm after a few simple searches. Google
    and other search engines never do this. The clowns in charge of Yandex need to buy a clue.

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    Post  Werewolf Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:05 am

    kvs wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    kvs wrote:The latest Firefox updates are screwing with the TLS connections to Russian video websites.   I cannot reach certain videos anymore.
    But using the Tor browser I can see them.   I know that VPN is supposed to avoid site blocking but this is not site blocking, this is
    sabotage from Firefox.


    Use Yandex browser. It is very good and offers even real time translation of foreign languages in videos to russian language.

    I will try it, but I don't like Yandex.  The rubbish search engine triggers a captcha verification spasm after a few simple searches.   Google
    and other search engines never do this.  The clowns in charge of Yandex need to buy a clue.


    Yes, it is annoying at first but haven't seen it since many months. Only when I am on a new system then this captha garbage indeed pops up.

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    Post  franco Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:35 am

    kvs wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    kvs wrote:The latest Firefox updates are screwing with the TLS connections to Russian video websites.   I cannot reach certain videos anymore.
    But using the Tor browser I can see them.   I know that VPN is supposed to avoid site blocking but this is not site blocking, this is
    sabotage from Firefox.


    Use Yandex browser. It is very good and offers even real time translation of foreign languages in videos to russian language.

    I will try it, but I don't like Yandex.  The rubbish search engine triggers a captcha verification spasm after a few simple searches.   Google
    and other search engines never do this.  The clowns in charge of Yandex need to buy a clue.


    Let us know how it works. I too am tired of the BS from Firefox.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:37 am

    Try setting the search engine in Yandex to Startpage.com and get the best of both worlds so to speak.
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    Post  kvs Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:38 pm

    I have found out what happened in the case of Rutube. Apple demanded that it remove all "government propaganda" videos and
    gave it two weeks. Rutube has been bending over like the clowns they are and restricting access to its videos to foreigners.
    So it is not Firefox that is my problem. Tor uses a peer to peer format for browsing so I am bypassing the restrictions this way.

    Why does Rutube care about Apple iOS? Seriously, WTF. Russian companies are surrendering to the enemy. Rutube should
    only care about the Russian domestic market plus the world outside of NATzO. Even if Apple restricts access, Chinese companies
    can fill the gap in terms of cell phone access around the planet. Clearly Apple has no control over the Russian market.

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    Post  LMFS Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:27 pm

    kvs wrote:I have found out what happened in the case of Rutube.   Apple demanded that it remove all "government propaganda" videos and
    gave it two weeks.   Rutube has been bending over like the clowns they are and restricting access to its videos to foreigners.
    So it is not Firefox that is my problem.   Tor uses a peer to peer format for browsing so I am bypassing the restrictions this way.

    Why does Rutube care about Apple iOS?   Seriously, WTF.   Russian companies are surrendering to the enemy.   Rutube should
    only care about the Russian domestic market plus the world outside of NATzO.   Even if Apple restricts access, Chinese companies
    can fill the gap in terms of cell phone access around the planet.   Clearly Apple has no control over the Russian market.


    Corporate clowns around the world just crave for approval from the supposed elites and to follow the trendy thing of the moment, because that is what being "successful" means. They are brainless and spineless idiots everywhere around the world man...

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