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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:36 pm

    The Bereg system is designed to be a self contained mobile battery system that can operate on a deserted coastline for months at a time with ammo and crew and support equipment to operate independently against enemy forces.

    The Coalition has an ammo support vehicle so it can fire in a sustained fire role and then move rapidly to new firing positions so it wont get counter attacked by enemy artillery because it just sat and fired for hours days or months from the same position.

    That would be useful for Bereg as well with gun and command and crew vehicles that all moved around making locating them rather hard.

    Replacing the gun vehicle with Coalition and its loading vehicle would make sense in a 152mm or 203mm calibre version too for a new upgraded Bereg system.

    The new models can be moving... receive target info... stop and fire and then move away immediately.

    The naval model could fire on the move at moving targets too while continuing to move making return fire really difficult too.

    The whole point of  joint development to spread the costs and unify the results and maximise the benefits and getting better effects on targets for land and sea.


    Depending on the terrain wheeled or tracked models would make sense for the navy.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:20 pm

    02.12.2022
    TASS

    The Baltic Fleet will increase the intensity of training tactical groups in the new year

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    Small missile ship (MRK) of project 21631 "Buyan-M". Archival photo.
    Image source: © Photo: Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

    According to the commander of the Baltic Fleet, Vice Admiral Viktor Liina, the fleet is expected to receive new military equipment and weapons, including small missile ships of project 21631 and 22800.

    MOSCOW, 1 December. /TASS/. The Baltic Fleet (BF) in the new academic year will increase the intensity of training of tactical groups and newly formed units. This was announced on Thursday with reference to the words of the commander of the Baltic Fleet, Vice Admiral Viktor Liina, the press service of the fleet reported.

    The report notes that Liina visited the artillery regiment of the BF army corps in Kaliningrad, where he spoke at a solemn rally on the occasion of the start of the new academic year. In the Russian army, it starts annually on December 1 and ends on October 31.

    "According to the commander of the Baltic Fleet, Vice Admiral Viktor Liina, in the new academic year, the fleet will face large-scale tasks related to increasing the intensity of combat training of tactical groups, newly formed units," the press service said.

    In addition, during the new academic year, the fleet is expected to receive new military equipment and weapons, including small missile ships (SMSs) of project 21631 and 22800.

    SMSs of project 21631 are designed, among other things, for conducting combat operations in shallow water by equipping them with water jets. The ships of this project are equipped with modern models of artillery, missile and anti-sabotage weapons and can carry out the tasks of destroying aircraft, helicopters and other airborne weapons, and they can also be used to destroy small coastal and sea surface targets.

    Project 22800 "Karakurt" multi-purpose SMSs were developed at the Almaz Central Marine Design Bureau and are designed to perform tasks in the near sea zone. The ships of this project are armed with a universal ship-based firing system with eight cells for Caliber and Onyx cruise missiles, and an AK-176MA automatic artillery gun. In addition, the ship's air defense includes Igla and Pantsir-M missile systems.

    https://vpk.name/news/659804_baltflot_v_novom_godu_narastit_intensivnost_podgotovki_takticheskih_grupp.html


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    Post  ALAMO Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:41 am

    Wasn't sure where to put that, so please relocate guys if you find a better place.

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/38164

    Recent RUS/CN maneuvers.

    Nice notice is the ships involved - both navies operate brand new ships, or deeply modernized (Ustinov and Shaposhinkov) ones in the case of Russia.
    That is a sign of how much changed in the last two decades ...

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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:16 am

    Returning from Russian-Chinese military exercises

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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:27 am

    On the nuclear submarine "Generalissimo Suvorov", on the ships "Grad" and "Anatoly Shlemov" the naval flags were raised: they are part of the Russian Navy and begin military service.
    The command was given by Vladimir Putin.

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    Post  franco Sat Dec 31, 2022 7:27 am


    The Ministry of Defense plans to purchase a new underwater complex

    The Russian Defense Ministry plans to acquire a new underwater complex. And they have already conducted a military-technical experiment on the use of a hardware complex for underwater mechanized welding and cutting of metal structures at depths of up to 60 meters.

    The Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Pavel Popov, told the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper about this . The interview was about innovative activities in the army, its response to new modern requirements, including using the experience of a special military operation. Speaking about the new underwater complex, the Army General noted that equipping military units and organizations of the Navy with such hardware systems will ensure timely and high-quality performance of underwater technical and ship-lifting works and special tasks, including during the NWO.

    In addition, a military-technical experiment was also conducted on the use of hydroacoustic stations and robotic complexes in building an underwater lighting system. This is done to protect the deployable mobile base point. The developers presented six prototypes, including a rapidly deployable zonal hydroacoustic station. A decision was made to conduct its experimental military operation in the NVO zone. For units and units of the Russian Navy, ten samples of hydroacoustic stations were ordered.

    In total, 14 initiative works have been implemented for the Russian Navy this year.

    NOTE: Hopefully this will not lead to another "welding war" here on the Forum pale

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    Post  limb Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:10 am

    What is the current solution to let in heavy russian ships in the black sea, since the turks have closed the bosphorus?
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    Post  Isos Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:43 am

    They use civilian ships.
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    Post  limb Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:45 am

    They cant trasnfer in frigates fro the forseeable future to the black sea because the zaliv more and zelenodolsk shipyards cant build more than corvettes.

    That limits size of kalibr salvos, as well as air defence of capabilities of the BSF. also no black sea shipyards build submarines.
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    Post  Isos Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:55 am

    Russian ships can exit the black sea but not enter.

    They have enough Kalibr carriers in the black sea and enough frigates.

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    Post  lancelot Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:03 pm

    The Zaliv shipyard can build destroyers if they wanted to. It used to build Krivak frigates in Soviet times. A ship about the size of the Admiral Gorshkov frigate. They are building LHDs. Ships several times the displacement of even the largest destroyer.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:16 pm

    The transfer of frigates have nothing to do with Shipyard capabilities

    The bosphorus is closed to ships who are not registered to Black Sea Fleet

    But they could always bring new build ships which are registered to Black Sea Fleet

    The next gorshkovs should be registered to BSF to allow them to enter the Black Sea ,

    Since 20380s have redut they have some long range capability, but can be saturated, although Ukraine does not have more than 12 salvo capability to overwhelm redut

    I'd want gorshkov with 32 cell redut in there to cover Odessa as Moskva did before


    Also I would bring some 20380 from Baltic Fleet on some transport ships through the canals to augment redut carrying ships in BSF

    What hurts the most is that 3 11356 ships carry shtil, unfortunately redut was not ready , if these ships had redut, BSF would be covered as is
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:18 pm

    The passage of warships in and out of the Black Sea has currently nothing to do with where they are registered, based or made.

    The Turks have banned any warship other than their own from transiting through. A very simple decision that has saved a lot of angst.

    The main Russian traffic during the past few years has been support of the Syrian Express transport route and it has not been significantly affected by the decision. It is now performed solely by civilian ships rather than a mix of civilian/military vessels.
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    Post  limb Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:32 pm

    They have enough Kalibr carriers in the black sea and enough frigates.
    But no ships with long range AD and powerful radar, since the moskva sank.

    The passage of warships in and out of the Black Sea has currently nothing to do with where they are registered, based or made.
    The cursed montreaux convention. There needs to be a solution to bring reinforcements to the black sea fleet. The admiral grigorovich is stuck in the mediterranean because of this ban.

    The Zaliv shipyard can build destroyers if they wanted to. It used to build Krivak frigates in Soviet times. A ship about the size of the Admiral Gorshkov frigate. They are building LHDs. Ships several times the displacement of even the largest destroyer.

    Wasnt the shipyard in horrendous condition due to ukrainian neoliberal gutting, basically abandoned buildings with nonfunctioning assembling equipment, which created the need for an entirely new team of workers who are still inexperienced and massive refurbishing which still hasnt been done, thus only allowing small corvettes and auxilliary ships to be built, and even then with a very slow build time?
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Jan 01, 2023 6:01 pm

    JohninMk wrote:
    The passage of warships in and out of the Black Sea has currently nothing to do with where they are registered, based or made.

    The Turks have banned any warship other than their own from transiting through. A very simple decision that has saved a lot of angst.

    John, you are mistaken

    If a ship is registered to the Black Sea Fleet, it can return to its home base

    That is part of the Montreux Convention

    In fact ships from Mediterranean have entered, long as they are BSF ships

    This from Melvut Cavusoglu (FM of Turkiye)


    “If the warship is returning to its base in the Black Sea, the passage is not closed. We adhere to the Montreux rules. All governments, riparian and non-riparian, were warned not to send warships across the straits,” Çavuşoğlu said, according to Naval News.

    This from western news source

    https://news.usni.org/2022/02/28/turkey-closes-bosphorus-dardanelles-straits-to-warships

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    Post  limb Sun Jan 01, 2023 6:39 pm

    Ok then its less critical for the BSF since grigorovich isnt stuck in the med
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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:09 pm

    Sending more targets into the black sea would not be helpful for Russia.

    They have no shortage of missile launchers nor in missiles to launch from them.
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    Post  Isos Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:19 am

    They don't need more frigates with long range AD. As of now Ukraine doesn't have an air force but few mig operating here and there with no air to ground capability.

    Grigorovitch class do their job very well. They even intercepted ukro neptune missiles aimed at landing ships. They have very good and proven radar with a range of 300km.

    If they want to scan with a better radar they need to send A50U. Ground and sea radars are disadvantaged by radar horizon, at more than 200-250km they don't see fighters flying low. Getting a radar with 600km won't make their situational awerness better since at 600km they would see only things flying above 6 or 7km altitudes.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:11 pm

    News in relation to December last year; Submarine K-553 "Generalissimus Suvorov" was handed over to the Russian Navy.
    Submarine K-150 "Tomsk" (949A) was handed over for overhaul and modernization, while submarine B-448 "Tambov" (671 RTMK) is undergoing sea trials.

    The list includes the following;

    60 Submarines; 38 nuclear submarines (of which 11 are strategic submarines); 22 diesel-electric submarines,
    52 surface warships; 1 aircraft carrier, 2 heavy nuclear cruisers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 5 large anti-submarine ships, 8 frigates, 4 guard ships, 8 corvettes, 20 landing ships.

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    Post  franco Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:00 pm

    What is the color code representation here?
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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:11 pm

    To Franco;

    DARK GREEN COLOR; 100% active status..
    LIGHT GREEN; technically correct ship or submarine and in active service.
    LIGHT BLUE; experimental exploitation, before entering the active service of the Russian Navy, sea trials by the manufacturer, sea trials by the state.
    LIGHT YELLOW; overhaul or modernization that will soon be completed
    DARK YELLOW; long-term overhaul or modernization,
    LIGHT GRAY; the decision on decommissioning the ship or on the further fate of the ship is not yet known.

    For example, K-329 "Belgorod" is active, but in the blog it is under blue color because "Poseidon" torpedoes are not officially in use.

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    Post  franco Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:16 am


    Sea hunting: how the defense of the north-east of Russia is being strengthened
    And what forces will cover this important strategic area


    Chukotka, Kamchatka, Yakutia, Kuril Islands — the north-east of Russia has huge natural resources, but also difficult climatic conditions. The geopolitical situation dictates the need to protect the country from all sides, including the Far East. About where our "Bastions" stand today, and where they are not enough, how the Soviet Navy set up a base on Simushir Island, which ships will soon be guarding the Sea of Okhotsk, and which ones are already being guarded, — in the material of military historian Dmitry Boltenkov.

    Rocket Barrier

    Since the beginning of the special military operation, the number of demands and claims against Russia in all directions from various unfriendly states has increased. It got to the point that US officials began to challenge the ownership of Wrangel Island to Russia. They probably forgot how Soviet border guards took Americans and Canadians out of Wrangel and Ratmanov Islands by the ear in the 1920s. But the brazen Japanese demands for the Kuril Islands exclude any possibility of concluding a peace treaty with this country.

    Russia has spent huge material and human resources to create and develop such a sea transport route as the Northern Sea Route (NSR), and now it has the right to consider it its national treasure and not let everyone on it for free. A number of countries and politicians are trying to challenge this and demand that the NSR be transferred to some kind of international jurisdiction. In the area of Chukotka, there is just the eastern entrance to the Northern Sea Route.

    In general, in the course of conducting its military operations, the enemy, represented by Western countries, very creatively strikes at the territory of Russia, goes to any provocations and sabotage. One undermining of the "Northern Streams" is worth a lot. It is becoming clear that it is necessary to carefully protect both the natural and biological resources of our remote territories. It is impossible to exclude the landing of a sabotage detachment on the territory of Chukotka. Such encroachment must be stopped in the bud.

    Another major threat to Russia is the unauthorized appearance of a detachment of warships of unfriendly countries in the waters that the country considers its own. Accordingly, the Russian Federation needs to build defensive bastions, work out the transfer of troops and ships to remote regions of the Arctic Ocean.

    Today, the forces of the Eastern Military District and its Pacific Fleet and the Joint Command of Troops and Forces in the North-east of Russia are constantly receiving new types of weapons and military equipment. New submarines and ships are coming to the Far East. The district forces are constantly taking part in a variety of combat exercises.

    One of the most significant events of the past year was the strengthening of the Eastern Missile Wall. This is the name given to the coastal missile barrier being created in Kamchatka, the Kuril Islands, and Sakhalin. In 2022, the Russian Defense Ministry received two Bastion mobile missile complexes. One of them was placed on Paramushir Island in early December. A year ago, another Bastion division was stationed on Matua Island.

    Thus, combat systems are being deployed that block the Kuril Straits of the central and northern parts of the Kuril Ridge with missile fire. Along with the complexes deployed on the islands of Iturup and Kunashir, a complete overlap of the Kuril Straits is obtained. So far, it is surprising that the Main command of the Navy is not conducting research on the revival of its former base on Simushir Island.

    The USSR at one time spent considerable resources on creating this base. Several thousand tons of explosives were used to create a convenient bay on the island. The central location of the island in the middle of the Kuril Ridge directly asks for the placement of another division of "Bastions". Together with the missile systems on Sakhalin, the guaranteed closure of the Sea of Okhotsk from warships of unfriendly countries is obtained.

    In the meantime, there are no permanently deployed divisions with "Bastions" in Chukotka, but their appearance in places such as Anadyr or Wrangel Island is a question, we can be sure, of the near future.

    The Sea of Okhotsk itself is the zone where Borey-class missile submarines will be based in the event of war. These boats are considered a strategic reserve of the Supreme High Command in the event of a nuclear war, and their preservation will be one of the main tasks of the Pacific Fleet.

    Currently, the 25th Submarine Division already has three such cruisers: "Alexander Nevsky", "Vladimir Monomakh"and" Knyaz Oleg". On December 29, 2022, another cruiser, Generalissimo Suvorov, was accepted into the Navy. In 2023, it will move along the NSR to its base in Vilyuchinsk. In the fall of 2022, the Knyaz Oleg and the Project 885M Novosibirsk attack submarine arrived in the Far East. "Novosibirsk" became the first modern attack submarine in Kamchatka in more than 25 years. The previous one was the younger "brother" of "Kursk" — the boat "Tomsk". On December 29, 2022, the flag was also raised on the cruiser "Emperor Alexander III". The Krasnoyarsk Project 885M attack submarine and a number of others are being completed.

    Power of Kamchatka

    In 2023, the strengthening of the Kamchatka submarine forces will continue. It is interesting to note that in Primorye, the Zvezda plant in Bolshoy Kamen is in the process of upgrading several 949A project boats, in particular Irkutsk and Chelyabinsk, for Kalibr and Zircon missile systems. At the same time, two similar boats of the Northern Fleet that remain in service are not subject to serious modernization work.

    Also, Kamchatka submariners will soon receive boats carrying a variety of unmanned vehicles, including the Poseidon megatorpedo. We are talking about the boats "Belgorod" (already accepted into the Navy) and"Khabarovsk". Thus, the scarecrow for American military sailors during the Cold War called "the snake's nest of Soviet submariners" is being revived in a new quality. It should be especially noted that before the arrival of the boats, a huge amount of work was carried out to prepare their base, solve security and supply issues. For the anti-submarine defense of the Okhotsk bastion, it would not hurt to deploy a brigade of non-nuclear submarines. Project 855M attack submarines will have other tasks in the event of war.

    In Soviet times, the 171st Submarine Brigade was based in Nagaevo Bay in Magadan. Its purpose was to conduct anti-submarine operations in the Sea of Okhotsk to protect Soviet missile carriers. By the way, the conditions at this base in winter were the most difficult of all possible.

    Combat training in Arctic conditions is conducted constantly. In September 2022, during the Vostok-2022 exercise, the Gremyashchy corvette and the coastal defense forces conducted joint missile firing from Matua Island. They were followed by comprehensive exercises Umka-2022 in August-September 2022. During these maneuvers, the Novosibirsk and Omsk submarines, as well as a missile division armed with the Bastion complex, fired together. This complex itself was moved to a distance of about 1300 km. A number of promising samples of all-terrain vehicles were tested over a thousand-kilometer crossing of the Chukchi Tundra. Such equipment is needed for the transfer of troops to remote territories.

    An interesting feature of the exercise was tracking the life activity of bears on Wrangel Island using drones. Such developments can also be used to search for terrorists in difficult northern conditions.

    Arctic maneuver

    Working out the transfer of troops to remote areas of the north-east by various means of transport is one of the main tasks of combat training. It is also promising to deploy special coastal defense units in Chukotka that can detect the enemy as quickly as possible and either destroy it or block it until the main forces approach.

    By the way, about the corvette "Gremyashchy". Kamchatka used to host many large warships up to and including missile cruisers. Over the past 20 years, the Kamchatka surface forces have consisted of small missile and anti-submarine ships, that is, ships of the third rank. With the arrival of the "Gremyashchy", ships of the second rank also appeared as part of the surface forces of the Joint Command of Troops and Forces in the north-east of Russia. Together with the "Rattling" was supposed to come and the corvette "Agile", but because of the fire, its arrival in the Pacific Fleet is postponed until about 2024.

    At the same time, the Amur Shipyard is building a large batch of corvettes. At least two such ships will arrive in Kamchatka to form a full-fledged battle group of four corvettes. To replace the Soviet-era minesweepers, the forces in Kamchatka have two new Alexandrites: "Yakov Balyaev" and "Pyotr Ilyichev". Other surface elements of the Kamchatka Flotilla are also being updated.

    In general, the top military leadership of Russia adequately assesses the prospective threats to the country in the northeast, is engaged in active combat training of units for operations in remote territories and properly strengthens the defense capability of the Russian Federation in this strategic area.

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    NOTE: the Coastal Rocket brigade covering the Kuriles from 4 bases (battalions) is apparently the 75th Coastal Rocket brigade. The 520th Coastal Rocket brigade is stationed at Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky and it was one of their Bastion SShM battalions that were redeployed north to the Arctic via LST in the military exercise mentioned in this article. In addition Shoigu had previously announced the formation of a Coastal Defense division to cover the coast line mentioned here. Apparently the first regiment was formed (50th?) and it seems to be designed for mobile defense as opposed to a static defense. No information of the composition of it's units yet.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:52 am

    Izvestia made a mistake in the text and thus gave false information because the flag of St. Andrew was not raised on the submarine "Emperor Aleksandar III", but the submarine was launched into the water.

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    Post  franco Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:09 am

    Since 2013, the fleet has included ships of eight projects:

    7 mine defense ships pr. 12700 "Alexandrite" ;

    3 small missile ships pr. 22800 "Karakurt" (designed for operations on the high seas);

    10 small rocket ships pr. 21631 "Buyan-M" (capable of walking on rivers, lakes and shallow bays);

    4 patrol ships pr.22160 (designed for operations in the far sea zone);

    6 multi-purpose corvettes of the near sea zone pr.20380/385 (ships of the 2nd rank);

    3 multi-purpose frigates of the far sea zone , project 11356 (ships of the 2nd rank);

    2 multi-purpose frigates of the far sea zone pr.22350 (ships of the 1st rank);

    2 large landing ships pr. 11711.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:07 am

    Type: project 11540 "Hawk"
    Board number: 777
    Name: Yaroslav the Wise
    Operator: Russian Navy
    Location: Kronstadt - Naval Base
    Date: 2022
    Author: Andrey Vechernin

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