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    2022 Kazakhstan violent unrest

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    Post  George1 Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:52 pm

    Following a request for assistance from Kazakhstan's president, the member states of the CSTO have sent more than 3,000 peacekeepers to aid their neighbor. However, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is claiming it'll be difficult to get Russian peacekeepers to leave the country now they're there. Nothing like good old-fashioned double standards, eh?

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:57 pm

    George1 wrote:Following a request for assistance from Kazakhstan's president, the member states of the CSTO have sent more than 3,000 peacekeepers to aid their neighbor. However, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is claiming it'll be difficult to get Russian peacekeepers to leave the country now they're there. Nothing like good old-fashioned double standards, eh?

    BREAKING: Russian FM— “Blinken's remarks on CSTO in Kazakhstan are a joke. If Blinken is so fond of history lessons, then let him mean the following: When Americans are in your house, it can be difficult to stay alive, not to be robbed or raped.”

    Yes babe! Yes babe! Stop with the velvet gloves!

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:59 pm

    George1 wrote:Following a request for assistance from Kazakhstan's president, the member states of the CSTO have sent more than 3,000 peacekeepers to aid their neighbor. However, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is claiming it'll be difficult to get Russian peacekeepers to leave the country now they're there. Nothing like good old-fashioned double standards, eh?


    Talk about lacking any sort of self-reflection right?.

    Ever since the U.S set foot on E.U Soil in 1944 we seem not to be able to make them leave either.  lol1

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:21 pm

    is it just me, or is this guy on the right the arrested security minister cuddling up with Biden and his son?.

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    Edit: yep, a bit more searching turned up this, no wonder they arrested him.

    https://nypost.com/2021/05/28/joe-biden-regular-at-dc-hotspot-where-he-met-hunters-associates/

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    Post  AZ-5 Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:22 pm

    George1 wrote:Following a request for assistance from Kazakhstan's president, the member states of the CSTO have sent more than 3,000 peacekeepers to aid their neighbor. However, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is claiming it'll be difficult to get Russian peacekeepers to leave the country now they're there. Nothing like good old-fashioned double standards, eh?


    It would have been way cooler if the US said ''good luck, we've done the same in Panama and Grenada. Keep the civvies safe''
    Why oh why.. for a change can't our leadership follow real politik? Rolling Eyes
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    Post  flamming_python Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:23 pm

    As for where the US and pals will strike next, as some on the forum have been asking

    Well actually the answer is obvious. Russia itself. The peripheries, such as the Crimea, or Chechnya again.

    Already there was a Crimean Tatar 'human rights' channel on YouTube, which usually gets 100-400 views per vid, consisting of various accusations of maltreatment, false imprisonment, etc... by the local government and police against Crimean Tatar activists or peaceful villagers - suddenly put out a new video which shows a man and his wife explaining how he was tortured with electricity in an interrogation room after a false accusation of plotting to blow up a gas pipeline.

    Well there was no evidence provided of either the torture, or the accusation against him, or that any of this took place at all. But the video went viral on YouTube, got +100-120k views in a couple of days, flooded with Ukrobots and Islamists promising revenge. For the past week that channel has been regularly featured over YouTube with recommended videos and so on.
    Much like Navalny's channel was while he was organizing his revolution. Navalny's 2-hour long 'investigative' video about the alleged palace on the black sea coast got something like +85-90 million views on YouTube within just a week - which is a completely ridiculous figure and won't be topped even if we add together all of Russia's internet-using population and all the Ukrobot farms.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:27 pm

    Airbornewolf wrote:is it just me, or is this guy on the right the arrested security minister cuddling up with Biden and his son?.

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    Edit: yep, a bit more searching turned up this, no wonder they arrested him.

    https://nypost.com/2021/05/28/joe-biden-regular-at-dc-hotspot-where-he-met-hunters-associates/

    Good catch

    Yes that's the now arrested chairman of the Kazakh National Security Committee, Karim Masimov. Explains a lot, including about how the militants could make such gains in such short order.

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    Post  AZ-5 Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:33 pm

    sudden realization now.. welcome to planet Earth NYT Rolling Eyes

    Amid Crisis, Kazakhstan’s Leader Chose His Path: Embrace Russia

    By Valerie Hopkins
    Jan. 8, 2022
    Updated 1:42 p.m. ET

    With his government under siege, Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, Kazakhstan’s president, turned to Russia’s Vladimir V. Putin for support. The choice could realign Central Asia’s politics. MOSCOW — The embattled president of Kazakhstan has the pedigree of an international technocrat. The son of prominent intellectuals, he studied in Moscow at a premier academy for diplomats, and later worked in the Soviet Embassy in Beijing. He served as a key adviser to the strongman who ruled the oil-rich Central Asian country as a fief for nearly three decades — and then, in 2019, became his heir.

    nytimes.com/2022/01/08/world/europe/kazakhstan-russia.html
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    Post  Scorpius Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:41 pm

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    Fun fact: on the captured from the gang in Taraz, the sight to the SVD is screwed backwards

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:44 pm

    flamming_python wrote:As for where the US and pals will strike next, as some on the forum have been asking

    Well actually the answer is obvious. Russia itself. The peripheries, such as the Crimea, or Chechnya again.

    Already there was a Crimean Tatar 'human rights' channel on YouTube, which usually gets 100-400 views per vid, consisting of various accusations of maltreatment, false imprisonment, etc... by the local government and police against Crimean Tatar activists or peaceful villagers - suddenly put out a new video which shows a man and his wife explaining how he was tortured with electricity in an interrogation room after a false accusation of plotting to blow up a gas pipeline.

    Well there was no evidence provided of either the torture, or the accusation against him, or that any of this took place at all. But the video went viral on YouTube, got +100-120k views in a couple of days, flooded with Ukrobots and Islamists promising revenge. For the past week that channel has been regularly featured over YouTube with recommended videos and so on.
    Much like Navalny's channel was while he was organizing his revolution. Navalny's 2-hour long 'investigative' video about the alleged palace on the black sea coast got something like +85-90 million views on YouTube within just a week - which is a completely ridiculous figure and won't be topped even if we add together all of Russia's internet-using population and all the Ukrobot farms.

    Oh do not get me started on Navalny,...

    My first lesson in NBC warfare by my airborne instructor.
    "this here is an antidote, you administer it like this, etc".
    "that concludes the official part...now the truth"
    "if you are exposed and feel symptoms of an nerve agent...shoot yourself".

    *Us recruits stare blank at him* ".......what?......"
    "you guys seen that movie the Rock right?, it is nothing what the real things do to you".

    And thanks, airborne drill instructor for your detailed explanation/nightmare fuel for what really happens with your body.
    i guess he was an good teacher tough, i still remember that vividly.

    Anyway, what i found the best piece of incompetent propaganda, was with the Skripals house being searched with people in maximum biohazard clothing. And a few meters from them journalists. without any sort of protection taking pictures. If you want to lie....make it a good one at least...

    Navalny the same thing, by an modern miracle he recovered fully!. wow!.
    I mean,...it is scientifically impossible to make a full recovery and not be turned into an vegetable...the best potential outcome.
    But good for him! Razz.

    I believe Russia also released audio or footage where they uncover Navalny meeting up with U.S agents. discussing money and in turn promising he will make things happen that will be in the U.S Interrests.
    Traitor....talk about selling your country to the empire of evil.

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    Post  AZ-5 Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:07 am

    The RAGE X @theragex
    🇰🇿⚡Cleaning up one of the streets of Almaty less than an hour ago. There is a curfew in place.  #Kazakhstan

    VIDEO link: twitter.com/theragex/status/1479945557913346048

    How Kazakhstan could shift Putin’s calculus on Ukraine

    New Atlanticist
    January 6, 2022
    By John E. Herbst

    Thirty years ago, the Soviet Union collapsed in a largely bloodless way. But events in recent years have proved that bloodlessness to be only temporary. Russia’s war against Ukraine—with fourteen thousand Ukrainian fatalities thus far (and more in the offing if Moscow sends an invasion force of one hundred thousand into the country)—is the major proof. Its brief 2008 conflict in Georgia, meanwhile, caused hundreds of deaths.* Sadly, the unrest in Kazakhstan may provide additional evidence. As of Thursday, dozens have been reported dead as clashes between protesters and police intensified.

    atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/how-kazakhstan-could-shift-putins-calculus-on-ukraine/

    and here we go clown

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    At the moment the following forces have been deployed to #Kazakhstan:

    98 airborne divisions
    31 airborne brigades
    45 airborne brigades
    3rd brigade of special forces of the GRU
    24th GRU Special Forces Brigade
    414 Marine Battalion
    15 SMEs separate divisions
    TsSN Senezh

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:18 am

    there is still heavy russian airlift activity going on back and forth.
    Flightradar24 often shows multiple Russian Federation millitary aircraft coming and going to Kazachstan.
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    Makes this old airborne heart pump again Wink



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    Ilyushin Aircraft standing in the service area
    Taken today on the 8th of januari, 8 Ilyushins on the runway at Oblast.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:27 am

    Blogger in Almaty advising everyone to stay indoors a few days ago when everything kicked off



    Says the people on the street are not from this city, nor possibly even from this country he's not afraid to say.
    Says that there is no police or military on the streets, and that the rioters/provocateurs have armed themselves with riot shields and protective gear. He claims that a bunch of gun stores have been broken into and looted, as well as police/military arms depots.
    He warns everyone not to open the doors to anyone, and claims that the armed men are breaking into private properties as well. He shows a video which shows the rioters armed with guns and entering an apartment building.

    Scary stuff

    Right now internet there seems to be intermittent still. I hope that when the dust settles we'll get more video materials from residents of Almaty explaining what the city went through.

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    Post  AZ-5 Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:56 am

    The well-known crime boss Arman Dzhumageldiev, better known as "Wild Arman", was detained in Kazakhstan.

    In 2005, he was a member of the political movement in support of Nursultan Nazarbayev, participated in the violent dispersal of oppositionists and sponsored "language patrols."

    VIDEO: twitter.com/AAglush/status/1479748848495046657

    you know what language patrols means... What a Face
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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:16 am

    flamming_python wrote:Blogger in Almaty advising everyone to stay indoors a few days ago when everything kicked off



    Says the people on the street are not from this city, nor possibly even from this country he's not afraid to say.
    Says that there is no police or military on the streets, and that the rioters/provocateurs have armed themselves with riot shields and protective gear. He claims that a bunch of gun stores have been broken into and looted, as well as police/military arms depots.
    He warns everyone not to open the doors to anyone, and claims that the armed men are breaking into private properties as well. He shows a video which shows the rioters armed with guns and entering an apartment building.

    Scary stuff

    Right now internet there seems to be intermittent still. I hope that when the dust settles we'll get more video materials from residents of Almaty explaining what the city went through.

    Thanks for the description, i can not get english subtitles to what he is saying so your words are vital for what he says.

    encouraging bloodshed is not my thing, but i really hope there will be some consequences to the west for this NATO engineered "collour" revolution.
    It pisses me off that this all costs the lives of all involved. For what?, geopolitical interrests of an decrepit, corrupt empire?.
    "ooh the soviet union fell appart, now we can do whatever we want in the world teehee".

    The EU and U.S never stepped up to really help any former soviet nation to bring them up to western tech-levels and welfare.
    There is only exploitation of resources and their people's.
    An millitary base here, lets put up this VLS missile base there, buy up all the mines. give eastern european drivers 1/4th the wage of western EU drivers,

    it is shamefull exploitation. plain and simple.

    I understand there are no easy solutions to all of this.
    But i think everyone that sees what is going on in the world sees the need to twist the neck of U.S Foreign Policy.
    At times like this, i do not know if China's strategy of bleeding the U.S dry financially will get the job done.
    i hope so.....
    it is an sound strategy on itself, but i do not know if the world has that time.

    I guess China is not sure either, hence why they build that gigantic array of ICBM silos in the desert.

    "we have no need to destroy the world, only the U.S....once" Said by an chinese state media reporter if i recall correctly.

    An second ukraine playing in Kazachstan is downright unnaceptable. and indeed required an millitary intervention.

    The U.S is an drug addict to its own weapon industry, there are no laws that prohibit "donations" to senators.
    They should wear nascar tracksuits instead of fancy office suits. at least you could see then who is paying them.

    In afghanistan, when we where on KAF airbase we ended up in an discussion with U.S fighter pilots. why they where so trigger-happy to drop bombs while we where dealing with the situation our way.
    They agreed actually, they told us it is more labour-intensive and expensive to take bombs back to base after an mission.

    You see, the bombs are not maintenance/user friendly on purpose. They are meanth to be taken out of the factory crate. hung upon an weapon-pylon and be used.
    Taking back was never in the design. They are practically spend goods if they are taken back.

    They need to be taken off the wing, re-inspected by an certified technician, and better pray its software suite accepts the connection to the aircraft's computer again.

    So,...its cheaper to throw all your ordance. than to take it back.
    average price per bomb is 25 thousand dollars....
    Anyone here disagrees that is the prime example of NATO corruption?.

    The U.S needs to be put into its place, and learn their boundaries are their national borders.
    The only thing they are known for around the world are illegal foreign interventions, war crimes, inventing every warfare known to man that is now banned.
    biological warfare?. handing blankets to the native americans contaminated with smallpox.
    Chemical warfare?. Vietman, there are special hospitals full of kids born with defects because of agent orange.
    Nuclear warfare?. hiroshima and Nagasaki got whiped off the map. two city's full of people.

    Not to forget North Korea, they pretty much tried their best to whipe them out by napalm bombardment.
    Generations grew up living in some muddy cave as there was nothing left but ashes.
    "North korea hates us". Gee,...you ever asked yourself why!?.

    Anyway,....
    i really hope russia/CSTO puts things in order and also get their hands on the ringleaders in all of this.
    And that there are somewhere serious consequences for who started all of this.

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    Post  AZ-5 Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:32 am

    flamming_python wrote:Blogger in Almaty advising everyone to stay indoors a few days ago when everything kicked off



    Says the people on the street are not from this city, nor possibly even from this country he's not afraid to say.
    Says that there is no police or military on the streets, and that the rioters/provocateurs have armed themselves with riot shields and protective gear. He claims that a bunch of gun stores have been broken into and looted, as well as police/military arms depots.
    He warns everyone not to open the doors to anyone, and claims that the armed men are breaking into private properties as well. He shows a video which shows the rioters armed with guns and entering an apartment building.

    Scary stuff

    Right now internet there seems to be intermittent still. I hope that when the dust settles we'll get more video materials from residents of Almaty explaining what the city went through.

    The uploader removed it.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:30 am

    CSTO is going all-in Cool

    I am sorry for the low-quality, sources for Kazachstan are pretty much non-existent at the moment.
    I can not give any more details either about the context of the vids.

    CSTO forces advancing with BMPs and an T- 72 by the looks of it.


    large csto convoy on the move trough an city:


    Kazach security forces stop and arrest an armed gang:
    NSFW Warning for shot people!

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    Post  Backman Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:44 am

    Airbornewolf wrote:there is still heavy russian airlift activity going on back and forth.
    Flightradar24 often shows multiple Russian Federation millitary aircraft coming and going to Kazachstan.

    Makes this old airborne heart pump again Wink


    Ilyushin Aircraft standing in the service area
    Taken today on the 8th of januari, 8 Ilyushins on the runway at Oblast.

    Might as well lend them an old S-300 while they are at it no ? Edit. Looks like they have them already

    Kazakhstan[12][124] – 10 battalions after the refurbishment (PS – version)[125] (2009 or later), 5 free of charge (2014),[126] and 5 free of charge (2015)

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    Post  AZ-5 Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:53 am

    some high quality footage of the rioting, 4 days back

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:00 am

    Backman wrote:

    Might as well lend them an old S-300 while they are at it no ? Edit. Looks like they have them already

    Kazakhstan[12][124] – 10 battalions after the refurbishment (PS – version)[125] (2009 or later), 5 free of charge (2014),[126] and 5 free of charge (2015)

    I am sure there are aircraft patrolling the skys.
    but speaking of unwanted traffic....

    the British NATO C&C aircraft, callsign GLEX is back skulking around Kazachstan.

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    https://www.flightradar24.com/GLEX/2a6f13ae
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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:00 am

    flamming_python wrote:As for where the US and pals will strike next, as some on the forum have been asking

    Well actually the answer is obvious. Russia itself. The peripheries, such as the Crimea, or Chechnya again.

    Already there was a Crimean Tatar 'human rights' channel on YouTube, which usually gets 100-400 views per vid, consisting of various accusations of maltreatment, false imprisonment, etc... by the local government and police against Crimean Tatar activists or peaceful villagers - suddenly put out a new video which shows a man and his wife explaining how he was tortured with electricity in an interrogation room after a false accusation of plotting to blow up a gas pipeline.

    Well there was no evidence provided of either the torture, or the accusation against him, or that any of this took place at all. But the video went viral on YouTube, got +100-120k views in a couple of days, flooded with Ukrobots and Islamists promising revenge. For the past week that channel has been regularly featured over YouTube with recommended videos and so on.
    Much like Navalny's channel was while he was organizing his revolution. Navalny's 2-hour long 'investigative' video about the alleged palace on the black sea coast got something like +85-90 million views on YouTube within just a week - which is a completely ridiculous figure and won't be topped even if we add together all of Russia's internet-using population and all the Ukrobot farms.

    Doubt anything much will happen there.

    Chechnya is locked down harder than an Imams wife's panties thanks to Kadyrov.

    Crimea is like 90% Russian and small minority of Tatars and even most of them aren't interested.  So even if they tried something, Russia's armed forces are right there and same with Rosgvaardi.  I know a couple of times there were attempts but Russia's national guard arrests way before hand.  But that is because your intelligence agency is actually doing their job unlike what happened in Kazakhstan.

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    Not surprising at all.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:04 am

    looks like the dumbass former leader is still in Kazakhstan. I think he is just trying to get eyes taken off of him:

    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/13374587

    In other words, he is asking everyone to rally around the President
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:23 am

    Airbornewolf wrote:...My first lesson in NBC warfare by my airborne instructor.
    "this here is an antidote, you administer it like this, etc".
    "that concludes the official part...now the truth"
    "if you are exposed and feel symptoms of an nerve agent...shoot yourself"....

    Off-topic but this remided me when we had landmine disposal training in the Army

    We served in engineering unit and were learning how to disable landmines when located

    Idea was to put on EOD suit and take them apart by the book

    Problem was that EOD suit had no gloves (you need precision to do the job properly) so if something went tits up your hands are gone and visor on the helmet was SUPPOSED to absorb MOST of the blast

    We all looked at each other and agreed that if we ever had to do this for real we would be doing it with helmets off and with our faces directly above the landmine in question

    Either​ do the job successfully or die successfully, no halfassing



    And don't even get me started on nuclear explosion training, that shit was hilarious, I heard a lot of units were taking it seriously poor shmucks

    Militaries do have some funny BS in their training protocols



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    Post  x_54_u43 Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:28 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Airbornewolf wrote:...My first lesson in NBC warfare by my airborne instructor.
    "this here is an antidote, you administer it like this, etc".
    "that concludes the official part...now the truth"
    "if you are exposed and feel symptoms of an nerve agent...shoot yourself"....

    Off-topic but this remided me when we had landmine disposal training in the Army

    We served in engineering unit and were learning how to disable landmines when located

    Idea was to put on EOD suit and take them apart by the book

    Problem was that EOD suit had no gloves (you need precision to do the job properly) so if something went tits up your hands are gone and visor on the helmet was SUPPOSED to absorb MOST of the blast

    We all looked at each other and agreed that if we ever had to do this for real we would be doing it with helmets off and with our faces directly above the landmine in question

    Either​ do the job successfully or die successfully, no halfassing



    And don't even get me started on nuclear explosion training, that shit was hilarious, I heard a lot of units were taking it seriously poor shmucks

    Militaries do have some funny BS in their training protocols


    An old Soviet joke goes something along these lines:

    "Comrade navyman, you are about to go through training to prepare for a nuclear detonation 300m off starboard, what are your first actions in this scenario?"

    "Comrade Commander, I am being vaporized, sir!"

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