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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:58 pm

    https://112.international/society/ukraine-buys-ice-breaker-james-clark-ross-from-great-britain-64172.html    

    https://inforesist.org/ukraina-kupila-legendarnyj-britanskij-ledokol-james-clark-ross/

    https://uatv.ua/en/icebreaker-james-clark-ross-arrived-to-odesa-photos/

    Now they won't depend on outside help to get to/from Antarctica.
    https://nv.ua/ukraine/events/ledokol-noosfera-otpravilsya-v-chernomorsk-novosti-ukrainy-50200097.html
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:50 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:...Now they won't depend on outside help to get to/from Antarctica.
    https://nv.ua/ukraine/events/ledokol-noosfera-otpravilsya-v-chernomorsk-novosti-ukrainy-50200097.html

    404s and Antarctica of all places, this will be hilarious lol1

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:14 pm

    Are they going to fish there? scratch
    As far as I know, there are severe restrictions to that, so no.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:34 am

    They have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernadsky_Research_Base there- a gift from the UK.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:54 pm

    They don't even have the money to maintain that or even use it.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:39 pm

    That Antarctic station and icebreaker is for the future government-in-exile

    Hey, they should be grateful their allies are making this contingency for them, unlike with Afghanistan

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:39 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:They don't even have the money to maintain that or even use it.
    they had $5M to buy it & will find more to equip, maintain & use it.  Based on future fisheries research there, their fishing fleet can save & make enough $ to return this investment.
    In the Antarctic part of the Atlantic Ocean, two Ukrainian vessels fished Antarctic krill (Euphausia superba), catching 4 000 t. https://www.fao.org/fi/oldsite/FCP/en/ukr/profile.htm

    It also could & will be rented to others even when not in Antarctica, earning its keep.
    ..London organized the sale to Ukraine of an icebreaker-class research vessel RRS James Clark Ross, on board of which British scientists have been studying Antarctica for almost 30 years. In October, this ship arrived at the port of Odessa. As reported by the Kiev media, the Ukrainian government plans to use the southern ocean in research, and in the future - the Arctic. https://www.ng.ru/armies/2021-12-07/1_8320_london.html?print=Y

    Displacement tonnage: 7767 tons (fully loaded)
    Max Draught: 6,4 m (21 ft)
    Icebreaking capacity: 2,5 m (8 ft)
    Ice-class DNV GL ICE-05
    Range: 74,000 km (46,000 ml)
    Endurance: 57 days (at 12 Kn speed)
    Capacity: 77 (50 passengers, 15 crew, 12 officers)
    Cargo capacity: 1500 m3 general cargo, 250 tonnes bulk cargo
    Diesel fuel capacity: 300 tons

    https://www.cruisemapper.com/ships/RRS-James-Clark-Ross-icebreaker-1796


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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:13 am

    Yeah... having fished out the northern hemisphere the UK sells rights for the Ukraine to rape the southern oceans too... great news.

    Sell the fishing rights to Ukraine because they knew they couldn't get british fishermen to operate in such extreme conditions for the peanuts they are going to pay them, plus if the media found out the greenies will go apeshit if the british are raping the southern seas... but with ukraine... well that is different because they are poor and just trying to make some money.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:25 am

    Operating in the Arctic would be good for UK ships... the cold sea water will efficiently cool their engines so they wont break down like they do in warmer waters...

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:18 pm

    who is deleting my posts here?

    https://www.ng.ru/armies/2021-12-07/1_8320_london.html
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:06 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:who is deleting my posts here?...

    Your off-topic bullshit was sadly not deleted

    It was however moved to appropriate disposal location most likely as a punishment for your inability to use proper grammar and syntax unlike mentally unimpaired people

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:23 pm

    Why am I restricted from Ukrainian Icebreakers tread?
    The only 1 they have will mostly work in the S. Ocean/Antarctic, where all conflicts r frozen & scientific stations r maintained by rival nations, so what's the reason for a separate tread?!

    https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/britain-s-new-polar-research-vessel-docks-in-antarctica-for-first-time

    https://www.highnorthnews.com/en/china-build-new-heavy-icebreaker-and-lift-vessel-arctic

    https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2019/03/details-chinas-nuclear-powered-icebreaker-revealed


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    Post  franco Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:49 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:who is deleting my posts here?...

    Your off-topic bullshit was sadly not deleted

    It was however moved to appropriate disposal location most likely as a punishment for your inability to use proper grammar and syntax unlike mentally unimpaired people


    You're sounding like a teacher Wink
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:34 am

    franco wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:who is deleting my posts here?...

    Your off-topic bullshit was sadly not deleted

    It was however moved to appropriate disposal location most likely as a punishment for your inability to use proper grammar and syntax unlike mentally unimpaired people


    You're sounding like a teacher Wink

    I am a teacher Cool


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    Post  GarryB Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:51 am

    Your posts regarding Ukrainian icebreakers are being moved to their own thread for Ukraine, just like US icebreaker posts are not left on the Russian Icebreakers section, which is for Russian icebreakers.

    If you are not sure where a post has gone find a post you have made and choose the option of see all posts and then scroll down to the missing post to find where it has been moved to.

    The Ukraine has made it very plain that it is not Russia and is a separate country and I suspect Ukrainians would not want their posts on a Russian page.

    This way they are easier to find for anyone specifically interested in Ukrainian icebreakers or exclusively Russian icebreakers.

    The Ukrainian icebreakers thread was temporarily unavailable while George and I decided where to put it.

    The only Ukrainian thread is embedded in a military section, which is where I put it initially, but now I have moved it to general chat.

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