Russia vs USA war scenarios

PapaDragon wrote:

GarryB wrote:

When was the last time large military aircraft had to use dirt runway anyway?

Did you not watch the video at the top of this page?

They train to operate from the dirt strips next to their runways in case those runways are damaged...

We are talking about nuclear superpower here

If their runways are being bombed it means that transport aircraft are no longer relevant in this scenario and that everything went to next level

Chasing these obsolete conventional warfare fantasies is what ballooned Soviet military budget, destroyed their economy and doomed the entire country

mnztr wrote:...Its not just about runways being bombed. Its about being able to deliver fuel, ammo and replacement troops forward and evac casualties so you can maintain the tempo of the advance. They can just land in a large field with some recon from ground troops, unload trucks of ammo and fuel, pick up the wounded and give a tank batallion resupply with 2-3 IL-76.

PapaDragon wrote:

mnztr wrote:...Its not  just about runways being bombed. Its about being able to deliver fuel, ammo and replacement troops forward and evac casualties so you can maintain the tempo of the advance. They can just land in a large field with some recon from ground troops, unload trucks of ammo and fuel, pick up the wounded and give a tank batallion resupply with 2-3 IL-76.

Deliver fuel and ammo for whom?

Replace troops what for?

Evac casualties to where?

Maintain tempo of the advance towards what?


Nuclear war just started, none of that shit matters anymore

mnztr wrote:...You think Nuclear war will start that easily. What if Russia decided to take the Baltics for example or half of Ukraine. you think the world is gonna commit suicide over that?

PapaDragon wrote:

mnztr wrote:...You think Nuclear war will start that easily. What if Russia decided to take the Baltics for example or half of Ukraine. you think the world is gonna commit suicide over that?

No they won't which is why they will not be touching Russia

Mainlands are off limits


Also Russia will not be taking Baltics or the Ukraine, they have no need for them

Only reason they will be doing anything with those is to preemptively nuke whatever invasion force would assemble there

mnztr wrote:...You have no idea what they will and will not take. Please don't pretend you can see the future. There are strategic reasons that may force Russias hands just like they did in Crimea. If Putin believed what you think, they would not have all that gear. After all, whats he point? If Ukraine joins NATO, something will happen

PapaDragon wrote:

mnztr wrote:...You have no idea what they will and will not take. Please don't pretend you can see the future. There are strategic reasons that may force Russias hands just like they did in Crimea. If Putin believed what you think, they would not have all that gear. After all, whats he point? If Ukraine joins NATO, something will happen

The Ukraine will never join NATO because they will cease to exist the moment the option of joining NATO becomes anything more than dumb fantasy

No matter what Russia does to any (or all) European countries nobody will be touching anything in Russia, runways included

Russia took Crimea and nobody fired a bullet

Russia could incinerate Europe and USA will do nothing because nobody in USA is dumb enough to die in nuclear fire over some nobodies a whole ocean away

The greatest generation wasn't willing to die for Europe during Cold War and Instagram generation sure as shit won't be dying for them now

Purpose of Europeans is to die for Americans not the other way around

mnztr wrote:If Russia attacks Europe, Americans will die because there are thousands of them stationed there. (once again you are clueless). The US has sent Americans to die in Europe many times. If they will send their kids to die for shitholes like Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, why do you find it so strange they will do it for Europe...

mnztr wrote:So your premise is that the US troops overseas will be fighting and will get NO ASSISTANCE from the USA?...

PapaDragon wrote:

mnztr wrote:So your premise is that the US troops overseas will be fighting and will get NO ASSISTANCE from the USA?...

Do you even read?

They will get plenty of assistance and will be fighting ferociously... up until the point when mainland USA gets under threat

That's when they stop

It doesn't matter how many europeans or any other disposable trash gets roasted, American territory will not be risked because that's where people and money are

Why the hell do you think they have so many assets in Europe? It's to make sure they fight Russia on someone else's turf

calripson wrote:America is never fighting a total war with Russia nor China. Nobody is committing suicide for Latvia or Taiwan. They enjoy their lives too much. It's all hype to keep the trillion dollar gravy train and the military/intelligence bureaucracy chugging along.

mnztr wrote:You expect the Russian to be fighting the US troops in Europe, and not attacking their supply chain?...

mnztr wrote:...If article 5 is invoked, why would Russia spare the USA from attack?...

mnztr wrote:...The EU actually has a pretty large GDP

PapaDragon wrote:
Exterminating europeans as a warning to USA doesn't risk nuclear retaliation, attacking USA mainland does

USA and Russia do not want to get nuked and they will kill as many europeans as they need to in order to make sure they don't

Why risk death when you can just eradicate some clowns to make sure you stay safe?

PapaDragon wrote:
Exterminating europeans as a warning to USA doesn't risk nuclear retaliation, attacking USA mainland does

USA and Russia do not want to get nuked and they will kill as many europeans as they need to in order to make sure they don't

Why risk death when you can just eradicate some clowns to make sure you stay safe?

mnztr wrote:...BTW Russia actually see the USA as the clowns, along with the UK. They actually see eye to eye on many things with France and Germany

PapaDragon wrote:

mnztr wrote:...BTW Russia actually see the USA as the clowns, along with the UK. They actually see eye to eye on many things with France and Germany

On which things?

When USA says 'jump' France and Germany say 'how high?'

France and Germany are even more insignificant than UK

Only thing that matters is USA, everything in Europe is expendable, it was during Cold War and it is today