Syrian War: News #23

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/13599

"There was a deal. Washington gets to do what it wants in the Middle East, Russia gets Ukraine. The new Washington has shown exceptional skill."

Hahahaha.... Biden the genius likely has no idea what is happening, but of course he will claim a win because he has already turned Russia against the US permanently which is going to seriously damage the entire western world.

Those who don't fight lose everything. We saw it with Yanukovich and we saw it with the Syrians now. You have to defend yourself, proactively if need be.

Not to mention Armenia...

Assad would have fallen in 2015 without the intervention of Russia. The years of sanctions did their work. Assad simply had no resources to maintain the apparatus.

Russia no longer has the desire to devote significant resources to Syria, nor does Iran have the ability to after the near destruction of Hezbollah.

Russia didn't save Assad... Assad was educated in the west and was not super friendly to Russia till he needed them, but Russia always made it clear it was not about saving Assad, it was about stopping a country from falling into chaos by western funded terrorists... a fate that Libya is currently dealing with and Afghanistan...

So, Assad fell after he lost the major part of his foreign backing.

I doubt he was ever going to be able to negotiate with all the factions involved that make up Syrian society... excluding ISIS of course.

This will be an occasion to send back all fake Syrians which came here.

Depends what sort of mess these terrorists make... odds are not high they know how to nation build... very unlikely that was part of their training.

The US created ISIS by making the Sunni factions no longer eligible for government and military positions because they served Saddam... what else were they going to do?

Ah the name calling, I get your upset that you took a big fat L and got proved wrong

America fucks up another country... you must be so proud. Except it seems to be more about internal corruption and dissatisfaction with Assad than anything America did. I see the jews are bombing ammo depots and weapons caches to stop the terrorists from seizing Syrian army weapons.

Sounds like it had nothing to do with the US or Israel but they will move in and destroy the country no doubt. Parasites.

From the statements of Russian Foreign Ministry it is clear that Russia also has agreed to the transfer of power

They have always stated their position as not being pro Assad no matter what. They helped Assad because he was their only chance of stability and a kind of peace. The opposition was 100 different factions, many of which were foreigners including Ukrainian mercs that they were interested in taking out at the time.

The rebels look like they will give the russians time to get out in an orderly manner.

Ironic the blood thirsty evil terrorists are more reasonable than the US military ever was...

Israeli airstrikes were reported against all military airports and several military barracks in the capital.

Meanwhile, according to preliminary reports, there are dead and wounded, including women and children, as a result of indiscriminate shooting that took place in the Syrian capital, medical sources in the city told Sputnik.

The HTS leader has already voiced his support for Israel so this is interesting... perhaps communication isn't in place yet?

The Russian Foreign Ministry reported that Bashar al-Assad had decided to transfer power in Syria peacefully and had left the post of President of Syria. Russia did not participate in these negotiations. Assad is outside Syria.

But Finnish media claimed he was dead... how can that be?

The Syrian opposition hopes for good relations with Moscow, Anas al-Abda, a member of the political committee of the National Coalition of Opposition and Revolutionary Forces, told TASS.

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That would be in their interests... America would only keep stealing their oil and food production land and have the people wait tables and clean shoes.

The US Coalition seems like the smart bet—They have the resources, international backing, and a tried-and-true playbook—Israel and Turkey will want their share, but—they’ll need more than border skirmishes to justify full-scale action.

If HTS does not kick the Russians out the US will not be happy, and so their kurdish forces might resist HTS uniting Syria as one country again, which means it might end up with Turkey funded HTS perhaps with Russian assistance fighting American and EU supported Kurdish forces for the oil fields and food production land...

NEW: Rebels started looting the holy Shrine of Sayyeda Zainab (peace be upon her) in Damascus, they also set fire to an adjacent building, smoke can be seen rising

No discipline... this could deteriorate to chaos and violence...

Internationally, the entire Golan Heights are recognized as Syrian territory and as being occupied by Israel, but Israeli violations of the 1974 Disengagement Line are rare.

Yeah, Israeli violations are rare so they are not the aggressor... Kiev murders thousands of its own citizens and Russia finally takes military action and they are the aggressors that everyone must ban from sport and everything else...

By doing so they prevented Russia from doing something epically retarded like a troop surge

Russia wouldn't send extra troops, they are there to help the government of Syria... if it had been someone other than Assad in charge they would have helped them instead. This was about preventing another Libya, who are still lost in a civil war.

After this massive failure, Russian influence in the middle east and Africa that has taken the last 15 years to build will evaporate.

Bullshit. The Syrian people don't seem to support Assad... what was Russia supposed to do?

Russia does not impose governments on countries like the US and EU does... they are doing it in Romania and trying to do it in Georgia... and would love to do it in Hungary and France...

If Ukraine can fight Russia for 2+ years it emboldens others.

Ukraine is being destroyed as a functioning country... the others that represent a threat to Russia are all part of the west.

Meanwhile, Israel is creating a buffer zone in the Holan Hills, bombing the remains of Syrian military infrastructure, etc.

Sounds like they have no idea what is going on and are just having a land grab while there is time.

Nonsense. Syria is a major client state of Russia and now it GONE.

Where did it go? Did an asteroid hit it and vapourise it?

Syria is just getting new management and they still have the Kurds to deal with... HTS is Turkey funded so I rather doubt the US and Israel had any say in the matter... I am sure in their bid to reclaim the rest of the country they are either going to have to negotiate with or otherwise deal with the Kurds...

They have invested decades in Syria and lost it in 1 effin week!!! If you want to have global influence its expensive. If you don't then shaddap and take orders. This is a massive blow to everything Russia and China were doing.

Stop crying like a little girl... this is a much bigger issue for Iran than it is for Russia... Assad lost, because he clearly lost the support of the Syrian people, but this group is not big and not powerful, it is pretty clear that Assad ordered his forces not to fight and had made an agreement he was happy with.

This is like the Ukrainian nazis pretending they were pushing the Russian forces back from Kiev at record speeds... because in both cases both forces were withdrawing to agreed positions, or in the case of the Syrian army they were handing over their weapons and surrendering.

Expect much more friction in BRICS and a massive reduction in Russian influence in the middle east and Africa in the next few years.

BRICS is a political and economic group... Russian military bases don't factor in to it.

A keystone has been taken out of Russias foreign policy.

Syria is the basis of all Russias power?

Are you drunk?

I would say the failure is on the same level as Libyas loss.

You can say what you like but in the western world Libya is seen as a victory for peace and democracy and apple pie... in the rest of the world it is just another stable prosperous country destroyed by the west because they think the third world should stay in the third world.... and the EU was probably going to be next... now it seems Syria is headed there first.

I bet even Belarus and Georgia are now very worried and watch Georgia nationalism soften in the coming weeks.

Don't you mean Kiev will say no to any peace deal and think they can now defeat Russia on the battlefield like they promised the first two years of the conflict.

If Assad was too corrupt they should have found a replacement and deposed him.

That is essentially what is happening now.

A great victory for the USA and Israel at the full expense of Russia.

Bullshit. HTS is not team America or team armageddon... HTS is Turkish funded and supported and likely will be going after the Kurds next.

No shit! That was clear when Aleppo fell in a day. You trying to rationalize every Russian or allied blunder, clouds your logic too much. You're not a stupid guy. Just have to be able to accept that mistakes are made and start from there.

**** off... this has almost nothing to do with Russia you half wit and your pathetic attempts to blame Russia for this are pathetic.

This will come to appearances and final results. And i'm sure that there's enough material for Russia's enemies to claim exactly that. You can bet your ass they will use this and it will be a pretty popular thesis. Regardless, if you or your government like it or not.

So you admit you are team nazi... good to be clear.

Very happy for Americans and Europeans too because once again they will be fulfilling the goyim's greatest honor of all: dying en masse for Israel.

They love the killing don't they... they get a hard on for it...

This will certainly weigh heavily on Russia's international prestige. A lot of their influence is being built upon their fight against Western hegemony and "better and more just" world. Now, their major overseas project collapsed like a house of cards.

Russia tried to help a friendly country and couldn't. The fact that Russia tried to save and Israel and the US and EU are bent on destruction means internationally nothing has changed. Their influence is because they produce food and energy and don't use it as a weapon to blackmail and steal from smaller weaker countries. They trade honestly and allow their trading partners to make profits and grow and develop too.

Syria was a convenient place to park their navy outside of the black sea.

For all we know the new government in Syria might want Russian bases to stay and help them kick the Americans out of the Kurdish regions and the Israelis out of the regions they have annexed.

I think that this failure is much bigger than Libya, as they never backed Libya to that degree.

Libya was a huge success for evil, so in that sense Russia failed to stop evil, but Russia is not the worlds policeman and is not obligated to save every country from the evil of the western colonial empire.

Libya is messed up but Russia continues to grow and trade and develop... and Russia will continue to grow and trade and develop even if Syria collapses into Libyan like chaos.

Maybe Russia fell victim to their own image and it is not still ready for the big game.

What bullshit are you talking about? The American and EU and Israeli game of destroying every country they can.... Russia does not need to take part in that game... it had military bases in Syria and took steps to keep them safe. If they lose them now... well they don't have any bases in Cuba or Vietnam or North Korea yet, but they are in talks for bases in North Africa... expanding those talks would not be impossible.

They are now talking about basing Hazelnut in Belarus... perhaps some in Cuba might be useful too.

Anyway, there are more pressing problems in immediate vicinity. Ukraine has to be beaten convincingly.

You spew all that shit and then you admit it is not important?

Classy.

The russians cannot afford any degree of failure in Ukraine now, they need that win very bad to reassure those around them.

But the US sending 10 more Abrams tanks would be a failure wouldn't it?

I doubt Russia is in any mood to concede anything.

Would you trust Trump to sell his amazing deals.... he ripped up a shit load of agreements.... and how many of his amazing deals did he manage to sign last time around?

BREAKING: 'Starting tonight, the main battle front will move to Syria. We will start fighting on the Syrian front and will not allow anyone to reach our borders' – IDF Chief of Staff, Herzi Halevi

Sounds like Israel does not see HTS as being their friend... which is no great surprise considering it is Turkeys horse in this race.

So I can understand why he decided to leave if that is true.

But we had Finnish media reports he and his whole family are dead in a plane crash... they even had charts...

People underestimate Russia militarily and diplomatically all the time.... they want instant results and reality does not work like that.