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    Syrian War: News #23

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:12 pm

    Not by choice. SAA ran, Russians have to accept this result.

    The rebels look like they will give the russians time to get out in an orderly manner.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:13 pm

    What happened with Syria shows us that the World Power is always attacking governments that are not subservient to it.
    My compatriot Che Guevara already said it:
    You cannot trust imperialism even a little bit. Not at all.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj0Fqi0-KiA&ab_channel=ANTIFAxFINLAND

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:20 pm

    🛑| Reuters, quoting sources: Israel carried out an aggression against the Khalkhalah Airbase, south of Damascus.

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    💥🇸🇾 Powerful explosions rock Damascus

    Israeli airstrikes were reported against all military airports and several military barracks in the capital.

    Meanwhile, according to preliminary reports, there are dead and wounded, including women and children, as a result of indiscriminate shooting that took place in the Syrian capital, medical sources in the city told Sputnik.

    https://x.com/SputnikMundo/status/1865731545484460083

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:23 pm

    🇸🇾The militant command announced that it forbids the "mujahideen" in Damascus from shooting in the air, approaching government institutions, entering private homes, or carrying out reprisals against former government officials and captured fighters.

    However, a number of institutions in the capital, including the customs department and the Baath Party office, have already been looted.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:25 pm

    🇮🇱🇸🇾The Israel Defense Forces has issued a warning to militants not to approach the buffer zone in the Golan Heights , where the IDF is conducting a ground operation to strengthen the border.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:29 pm

    The fall of Assad is tragic event. He was ally of Russia and the pole of Resistance. We have accept blow as blow, the pain as pain. This is the fight, the war. The war has usually different episodes - some of them are unpleasant and painful. But we should never give up. We’ll win

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:38 pm

    Bashar al-Assad has resigned as President of Syria.

    The Russian Foreign Ministry reported that Bashar al-Assad had decided to transfer power in Syria peacefully and had left the post of President of Syria. Russia did not participate in these negotiations. Assad is outside Syria.

    Russian bases in Latakia are on high alert, but there is currently no threat to their security.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:39 pm

    The Syrian opposition hopes for good relations with Moscow, Anas al-Abda, a member of the political committee of the National Coalition of Opposition and Revolutionary Forces, told TASS.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:42 pm

    🗣Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu visited the Syrian border and stated that the change in government in Damascus was "a direct result of the blows we have inflicted on Iran and Hezbollah."

    He added that the shift in power in Syria creates new opportunities for Israel.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:44 pm

    Syria, led by President Bashar al-Assad, has fallen—now, who will take control?
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    🇸🇾\🇸🇾 Here’s a breakdown of what could happen next—though, it’s not going to be simple:
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    🇺🇸 US COALITION SHOWTIME: The US and NATO may step in, overthrow Julani and his HTS ISIS crew, and set up a new government they can control— A familiar move: think Iraq 2003, but with more “liberation” speeches and less oil—This is a classic Western power play in the making.

    ➡ 🇸🇾 HTS’S MOVE: HTS has captured Deir ez-Zor, the real control area of the Kurds, and they’re eyeing the oil—They need money, but Turkey’s economy can’t support them—Erdogan is eyeing Syrian oil.

    ➡ KEY POINT: Can the Kurds (American agents and Erdogan’s major concern) hold on? That’s a critical question. ➡ If HTS can’t secure the economic benefits—Turkey may suffer the consequences, especially regarding Pan-Turkism.
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    🏴☠ ISRAEL’S BIG PLAY: Israel, tired of the current situation, might go for full Annexation—No more proxy wars or airstrikes—just direct action.

    ➡ THE GOLAN HEIGHTS: Israel took the Golan Heights, benefiting in the short term. But in the long run, it could be trouble—You never know what a terrorist might do, especially when you can’t control them.
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    🇹🇷 TURKEY’S OTTOMAN FANTASY: Erdogan, always looking for an opportunity, may decide the north of Syria belongs to Turkey—It’s not just a “buffer zone”—it’s an occupation under the guise of a “safeguarding operation” (Erdogan’s favorite line).
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    🇱🇾 LIBYA 2.0 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: A mess will unfold as Wahhabi, Salafist, and other terror groups behind the "new transitional govt" fight to control all of Syria (except the areas controlled by Israel and Turkey’s “buffer zones”)— This will give terrorist groups and human traffickers a free field to operate.

    ➡ END RESULT? After years of chaos, a Syrian Haftar-like figure could rise, taking control of most of Syria while a weak, divided "So called Official Syrian Government" backed by the UN crumbles.
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    💭MOST LIKELY OUTCOME?

    ➡ 🇺🇸The US Coalition seems like the smart bet—They have the resources, international backing, and a tried-and-true playbook—Israel and Turkey will want their share, but—they’ll need more than border skirmishes to justify full-scale action.
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    It’s geopolitics. Simple as that.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:45 pm

    🇸🇾 Former US Army Officer Stanislav Krapivnik

    “The next chapter is going to be a bloodbath”

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:54 pm

    The situation in Syria as of 15:00 Damascus time.

    1. Most of Syria, including Damascus, is under rebel control.
    2. Assad has fled and abdicated, Prime Minister Mohammad Ghazi al-Jalali has had the courage to stay and is making arrangements to hand over full power to the rebels.
    3. Russia is in contact with all the major rebel groups, with whom it appears to be discussing the future of its bases in Latakia province.
    4. The US will not withdraw from Syria and will continue to occupy the At-Tanf area and the north-eastern part of the country.
    5. Iran is reducing its military presence in western Syria.
    6. Israel occupies part of Syria near the Golan Heights and declares it a 'closed military zone'. It also attacks abandoned SAA depots.
    7. Hezbollah withdraws its units into Lebanese territory. The Lebanese army reinforces border security with Syria.
    8. Iraq continues to move armoured and mechanised brigades towards the border with Syria. Hashd Shaabi units have also been observed there.
    9. Turkey intends to eliminate the Kurdish presence at least west of the Euphrates in the near future (Manbij and adjacent areas will be occupied by the SNA). Areas east of the Euphrates are also under threat.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:56 pm

    🇮🇷🇸🇾| Iran’s MFA:

    Syria's future must be decided by its people, free from external interference & imposition. The MFA spox stressed "ending conflicts, preventing terrorism, & starting a national dialogue with participation of all segments of Syrian society to form a government representing all Syrians.

    Relations with Syria are expected to persist with a wise & far-sighted approach, based on common interests, mutual benefits, and adherence to int'l legal obligations.

    Iran supports int'l mechanisms centered on UNSCR 2254 to advance political process in Syria.

    Iran has taken the necessary measures to ensure security & safety of Iranian embassy staff in Syria, confirming that the ambassador & staff are in good health. He condemned attack on embassy, noting that Iran has warned & called for preventing such attacks from recurring.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Dec 08, 2024 3:02 pm

    ❗🇷🇺/🇸🇾 Statement by the Russian Foreign Ministry:

    'We are following the dramatic events in Syria with extreme concern. As a result of negotiations between Bashar al-Assad and a number of participants in the armed conflict in the Syrian Arab Republic, he decided to leave the presidential post and left the country, giving instructions to transfer power peacefully

    Russia did not participate in these negotiations. At the same time, we appeal to all parties involved with a strong call to renounce the use of violence and resolve all governance issues by political means.

    In this regard, the Russian Federation is in contact with all groups of the Syrian opposition. We call for respect for the opinions of all ethno-confessional forces of Syrian society, and support efforts to establish an inclusive political process based on the unanimously adopted UN Security Council Resolution 2254.

    We expect that these approaches will be taken into account by the UN and all interested players, including in the context of the implementation of the initiative of the UN Secretary General's Special Representative for Syria, Georg Pedersen, to urgently organize inter-Syrian inclusive negotiations in Geneva.

    At the same time, all necessary measures are being taken to ensure the safety of our citizens in Syria. Russian military bases in Syria are on high alert. There is currently no serious threat to their security.'

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    What the actual ****

    Did he bet his presidency in a round of poker or something?

    Syria at one point was beseiged by the West, Turkey, the Gulf Arab states and was holding out for years by its teeth and the determination of its fighters. And the position of Assad himself no less too.
    There were battles for cities that went on for years. Tens of thousands of lives lost. Millions displaced.

    And now he or his officers or whoever else just decided that okay let's pack it up, let's move on with the next chapter in life, this Syria thing is getting boring?

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Dec 08, 2024 3:14 pm

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    Post  Arctic_Fox Sun Dec 08, 2024 3:45 pm

    >It is also possible that this will bring nationalist parties to power in some European countries, causing a Mass deportation of all refugees.
    By the way, now I expect all people which left Syria because of Assad regime to come back to their country without staying in EU.
    This will be an occasion to send back all fake Syrians which came here.

    You're being too optimistic mate, this will never happen with the spineless right wing politicians of Europe. The EU has more power within these countries than any politician or the people itself. Just look at the Italian Prime Minister trying to deport those sub-Saharan migrants and being completely block by... judges...

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:11 pm

    Iranian official media have issued explanations as to why Iran has not gone all-out in support of Assad.

    Iran's Fars news agency has published an article (https://farsnews.ir/hamed/1733649989178587279/%DA%86%D8%B1%D8%A7-%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%A7%DB%8C%D9%86-%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%87-%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AF-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B1%DB%8C%D9%87-%D9%86%D8%B4%D8%AF%D8%9F) that explains why Iran has not sent troops into Syria.

    With the emergence of ISIS in Syria and deteriorating security conditions, the government of that country has officially turned to Iran for help.

    Over time, the terrorists underwent a "genetic mutation", stopped committing violence and adopted a diplomatic stance. The Syrian people no longer support the Syrian army in the fight against terrorists as they once did.

    The Syrian army also lacked motivation to fight the terrorists for various reasons, including religious and economic weakness.

    But the main change has occurred in Bashar al-Assad himself. During the last meeting with him on June 10, 2024, Rahbar Ali Khamenei gave the Syrian president an important and well-founded warning.

    Moreover, before the start of the war in Lebanon, Iran repeatedly warned Assad about the strengthening of terrorists and even made him the necessary proposals, but they were not heard.

    This process continued until the final hours of Assad’s fall. The presence of Iranian officials at the highest level to negotiate with him demonstrated Iran’s serious determination to strengthen Damascus. But Assad made a strategic – and fatal – mistake by relying on promises from other Arab countries and the West.

    Having learned about this, Iran decided not to interfere, but tried to convince Assad until the very end. However, he realized too late the emptiness of his enemies' promises.

    ISIS is a terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:12 pm

    🇸🇾 NEW: Rebels started looting the holy Shrine of Sayyeda Zainab (peace be upon her) in Damascus, they also set fire to an adjacent building, smoke can be seen rising

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:13 pm

    Middle East Spectator, [8/12/2024 11:55]
    ❗🇮🇱/🇸🇾 NEW: Netanyahu officially announced the end of the 1974 Disengagement Agreement in the Syrian Golan Heights

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    Middle East Spectator, [8/12/2024 12:11]
    ❗🇮🇱/🇸🇾 NEW: So far, from what we know, Israel entered 4 towns in the Syrian Golan Heights

    Three of those towns are located within the 1974 UN-Supervised Zone, which Israel captured in the 1973 war and returned to Syria:

    - Al-Qunaitra
    - Al-Hamidiyah
    - Madinat al-Baath

    However, Israel also advanced into one town beyond the 1974 Disengagement Line, which Israel never previously controlled:

    - Kham Arnabah

    Internationally, the entire Golan Heights are recognized as Syrian territory and as being occupied by Israel, but Israeli violations of the 1974 Disengagement Line are rare.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:23 pm


    It's definitely a good thing that SAA and Syria collapsed so fast

    By doing so they prevented Russia from doing something epically retarded like a troop surge




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    Post  mnztr Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:24 pm

    After this massive failure, Russian influence in the middle east and Africa that has taken the last 15 years to build will evaporate. Iran and Iraq are at risk and in fact BRICS is at risk. All the arab nations will realize Russia cannot protect them even from a rebels let alone the USA and Israel will get bolder. Its a cataclysmic event that will transform the middle east. Its partly due to Iranian weakness with so many empty threats. Russian intel being absolutely asleep at the switch. Now watch a wounded Russia have to take a shitty deal in Ukraine. Very sad day. No idea how they could be so unaware that massive forces were building in Idlib where the allowed them all to coalace. I am astounded. Another failure was just how long Russia allowed the Ukraine war to go on. If Ukraine can fight Russia for 2+ years it emboldens others. As I said before they needed to close the the border with Poland about 18m ago. I am not even sure Putin will serve out his term at this point. This event and its speed will have far reaching consequences.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:29 pm

    With that media stunt a year ago Hamas managed to deliver Gaza Strip to Israel, take down Syria and put Iran on the chopping block

    I hope the TikToks were worth it Cool






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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:36 pm

    Papa Dragon
    It's definitely a good thing that SAA and Syria collapsed so fast

    By doing so they prevented Russia from doing something epically retarded like a troop surge

    If they do troop surge anywhere, best place would be Ukraine. Time has come to finish what you've started and not just extend agony with some half-assed deals. I hope, if they learn anything from Syria and Ukraine it is that.

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    Post  Arrow Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:38 pm

    Meanwhile, Israel is creating a buffer zone in the Holan Hills, bombing the remains of Syrian military infrastructure, etc.

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    Post  Arrow Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:41 pm

    hope, if they learn anything from Syria and Ukraine it is that. LikeDislike wrote:

    They won't learn.

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