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Syrian War: News #23
Arrow- Posts : 3821
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- Post n°601
Re: Syrian War: News #23
Iran also not very willing to help? Is it really that afraid of Israel?
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- Post n°602
Re: Syrian War: News #23
Middle East Spectator, [5/12/2024 11:16]
— / NEW: Some of the Syrian Arab Army units in Qomhane north of Hama have not surrendered, and are now encircled, and they are fighting until the end
@Middle_East_Spectator
Middle East Spectator, [5/12/2024 11:21]
— The SAA units in Qomhane are either absolute heroes refusing to surrender, or the communication between SAA units along the front has just completely broken down and the guys in Qomhane didn't get the message to withdraw.
@Middle_East_Spectator
Middle East Spectator, [5/12/2024 11:31]
— NEW: Fighters of the Syrian Arab Army have also refused to surrender on the strategic hill of Jabal Zayn al-Abideen, overlooking Hama, and will defend it till the end
@Middle_East_Spectator
— / NEW: Some of the Syrian Arab Army units in Qomhane north of Hama have not surrendered, and are now encircled, and they are fighting until the end
@Middle_East_Spectator
Middle East Spectator, [5/12/2024 11:21]
— The SAA units in Qomhane are either absolute heroes refusing to surrender, or the communication between SAA units along the front has just completely broken down and the guys in Qomhane didn't get the message to withdraw.
@Middle_East_Spectator
Middle East Spectator, [5/12/2024 11:31]
— NEW: Fighters of the Syrian Arab Army have also refused to surrender on the strategic hill of Jabal Zayn al-Abideen, overlooking Hama, and will defend it till the end
@Middle_East_Spectator
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PapaDragon- Posts : 13663
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- Post n°603
Re: Syrian War: News #23
I do wonder how Andrei Martyanov will try to spin this...
He is on point with Russian stuff but this has Arabs in mix and it shows
Karl Haushofer- Posts : 1287
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- Post n°604
Re: Syrian War: News #23
It was obvious that without conquering Idib, which has become a terrorist stronghold, everything will fall apart in the future. Erdogan outsmarted Putin, which was predictable in 2016. The same as with Minsk, etc.
Even if child could outsmart Putin. How did this man get his reputation as some kind of a chess-master?
nomadski- Posts : 3154
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- Post n°605
Re: Syrian War: News #23
Well , if a second front opened against the western supplied Israel , then arms supplies and money from them would be cut in Ukraine . And this , I think was happening . Russia has only one military base to worry about . America has 700 . If any of it's bases are attacked , they are forced to defend it . If for no other reason than saving face . Even if most bases do not serve a strategic purpose . So who has more to loose by playing this game ? Can America truly defend against attacks against half a dozen bases ? Their MIC can not cope with the demand for Ukraine . They can not even protect shipping in Red Sea . They are spread out too much , like an obese American only able to ride a fuel guzzling six litre Cadillac .
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thegopnik- Posts : 1930
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
No one here knows whats going.
Is it really the SAA's incompetence? We dont know if they 1. Have access to creating EW systems and drones which would greatly improve their own capabilities like the militants. 2. How much troops they had from the last Syrian war. 3. the force they are fighting is currently bigger than them and retreating is better to save their own number of troops.
Until they reach either of Russia's military bases (which they havent left and still using ships and aircrafts) I will be convinced this as Russia and the SAA's incompetence. But Russia requesting the Turks to have Syrian soldiers be brought back which they did means there is some secret agreement with Turkey and Russia that we don't know about.
Is it really the SAA's incompetence? We dont know if they 1. Have access to creating EW systems and drones which would greatly improve their own capabilities like the militants. 2. How much troops they had from the last Syrian war. 3. the force they are fighting is currently bigger than them and retreating is better to save their own number of troops.
Until they reach either of Russia's military bases (which they havent left and still using ships and aircrafts) I will be convinced this as Russia and the SAA's incompetence. But Russia requesting the Turks to have Syrian soldiers be brought back which they did means there is some secret agreement with Turkey and Russia that we don't know about.
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PapaDragon- Posts : 13663
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
Dude, it's SAA
Of course it's incompetence
Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E- Posts : 803
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
I've been saying it for many years, the Idleb shithole is a warning to Russia.
Anyone who makes a truce and leaves such proxy terror places will please regret it.
The same will happen to Russia if it leaves remnants of Ukraine where the CIA and NATO can let off steam after years of armament.
But everything has to be radically freed in Syria now and if the Turks don't think so, then they have to get in the face!
Iran and Russia must act now, now! Help the SAA and Syria otherwise you can let it be the same in Ukraine and Lebanon!
Anyone who makes a truce and leaves such proxy terror places will please regret it.
The same will happen to Russia if it leaves remnants of Ukraine where the CIA and NATO can let off steam after years of armament.
But everything has to be radically freed in Syria now and if the Turks don't think so, then they have to get in the face!
Iran and Russia must act now, now! Help the SAA and Syria otherwise you can let it be the same in Ukraine and Lebanon!
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thegopnik- Posts : 1930
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
Not trying to be funny but we know the Russians well enough of when situations call for retreats *cough* *Ukraine war* if they are still active with ships and aircrafts they have a reason of why they are not retreating. Also if they were in trouble they would have had more than enough time and manpower to send them to Syria(the SMO troops would be happier with orders to Syria with a better chance of survival than Ukraine.) but they are supposedly leaving it to the Iraqis and Iranians.
par far- Posts : 3521
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
This falls on the Syrians, they should have been ready.
SAA had 2-3 years to prepare for something like this, they should have beefed up their intelligence(especially around Idlib), they should have started building up their army and they should have started recruiting more soldiers(Iran could have helped with this, there are a lot of Afghans that are in Iran in refugee camps, they should have gotten Syrians that are in Lebanon to come back), Syria should have asked Russia to send Wagner to train their troops(Iran would have helped here as well), they should have asked Russia to donate old equipment that Russia did not need, there is a millions other things that thy could have done.
What should happen is that Russia and Iran should help them clear the terrorists out, bomb them, kill them and re-claim the lost territory, after this they should control the Syrian Arab Army.
SAA had 2-3 years to prepare for something like this, they should have beefed up their intelligence(especially around Idlib), they should have started building up their army and they should have started recruiting more soldiers(Iran could have helped with this, there are a lot of Afghans that are in Iran in refugee camps, they should have gotten Syrians that are in Lebanon to come back), Syria should have asked Russia to send Wagner to train their troops(Iran would have helped here as well), they should have asked Russia to donate old equipment that Russia did not need, there is a millions other things that thy could have done.
What should happen is that Russia and Iran should help them clear the terrorists out, bomb them, kill them and re-claim the lost territory, after this they should control the Syrian Arab Army.
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Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E- Posts : 803
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
Should have... it applies now!
Russia should get out of the ass otherwise 9 years have been help for the ass and Syria falls and with it Lebanon and Iraq and then it goes on with Iran.
Putin, move your troops massively at last! Stop with restraint! Finally let go of the bear, in Ukraine and Syria!
Russia should get out of the ass otherwise 9 years have been help for the ass and Syria falls and with it Lebanon and Iraq and then it goes on with Iran.
Putin, move your troops massively at last! Stop with restraint! Finally let go of the bear, in Ukraine and Syria!
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
Latest map I can find
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S p r i n t e r
@SprinterFamily
According to a statement from the Syrian Ministry of Defense, Hama was also evacuated under the pretext of protecting civilians, which led to the fall of this important line.
● Before Hama, there were territories in northwestern Syria that were of little importance for the resistance and were mostly under the protection of Russian forces.
● However, starting from Hama, any advance of terrorists, especially in the direction of Masyaf, Palmyra, Damascus and al-Qusayr, represents a direct threat to the national security of our country due to its proximity to Hezbollah's strategic depth.
@SprinterFamily
According to a statement from the Syrian Ministry of Defense, Hama was also evacuated under the pretext of protecting civilians, which led to the fall of this important line.
● Before Hama, there were territories in northwestern Syria that were of little importance for the resistance and were mostly under the protection of Russian forces.
● However, starting from Hama, any advance of terrorists, especially in the direction of Masyaf, Palmyra, Damascus and al-Qusayr, represents a direct threat to the national security of our country due to its proximity to Hezbollah's strategic depth.
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PapaDragon- Posts : 13663
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
Damn bro, SAA is running away faster than Iraqi Army from ISIS
I wonder if we will soon get the video of of secular Syrians falling off landing gear of Russian cargo plane as it skedaddles out of Middle East?
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
Could be hopium. A lot of PR going on.
S p r i n t e r
@SprinterFamily
The Syrian army has recaptured several important positions in the Hama region
the headquarters of the 87th Special Forces Regiment and the Hama military airport have been recaptured.
S p r i n t e r
@SprinterFamily
The Syrian army has recaptured several important positions in the Hama region
the headquarters of the 87th Special Forces Regiment and the Hama military airport have been recaptured.
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caveat emptor- Posts : 2195
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
Syria as we know it, stopped to exist in 2011. Assad with the help of Hezbollah, Russia and Iran tried to restore it, but it seems like he failed. It will be interesting to know how will it be divided in the future. Some sort of Greater Syria during French mandate can be taken as an historical parallel.
One more thing that is very interesting is that Iranians, so far, didn't even try to help Syria during this period. I expected to see few dozen strike drones, after first week, which would be perfect for this type of war, where one side don't have any AA systems.
Russia from all this quagmire should come up with two conclusions:
1) always finish the job and don't walk away with some half-assed deals (i have to say, that Putin has a tendency to do that);
2) don't trust Iran when shit hits the fan. There's a real possibility they'll just back off.
One more thing that is very interesting is that Iranians, so far, didn't even try to help Syria during this period. I expected to see few dozen strike drones, after first week, which would be perfect for this type of war, where one side don't have any AA systems.
Russia from all this quagmire should come up with two conclusions:
1) always finish the job and don't walk away with some half-assed deals (i have to say, that Putin has a tendency to do that);
2) don't trust Iran when shit hits the fan. There's a real possibility they'll just back off.
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
Russian AF started destroying bridges on Orontes river between Hama and Homs. It seems like Syrians gave up on Hama.
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mnztr- Posts : 2992
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
RT reports SAA has withdrawn from Hama, quite shocking how the terrorists they have struck in two different directions. People said I was wrong when i said Russia screwed up, but with the replacement of the general in charge it hard to deny.
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
The counter-strike has begun, the terrorists will now run all the way across the Turkish border. Now it's time to clean up!
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1864792506678030549
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1864792506678030549
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par far- Posts : 3521
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
Russian military transport aircraft Il-76 RA-78840 flew, flew from Moscow to Khmeimim airbase in Syria, the flight was carried through Turkish airspace and not Iran.
Why would Turkey allow this?
Why would Turkey allow this?
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nomadski- Posts : 3154
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
Attacking by a surprise attack , and advancing quickly does take the other side by surprise . Especially if the frontlines are long and territory large . This advance is similar to kursk . Has similar fast moving but relatively small number of lightly armed troops . But holding territory is a different matter . Do not be surprised if the takfiri terrorists , show up in Damascus in smaller numbers too . Very difficult or impossible to stop an irregular but small force moving in this way . But now that they have shown up and settled in some areas , they can be confronted too . And agree that they need to be destroyed totally this time , since they are not conciliatory . There is simply no choice for the Syrians . It is a fight to the death . Syria needs three times the number of takfiris , to defeat them . If there are 15000 , then Syria and allies need 45000 .
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
par far wrote:Russian military transport aircraft Il-76 RA-78840 flew, flew from Moscow to Khmeimim airbase in Syria, the flight was carried through Turkish airspace and not Iran.
Why would Turkey allow this?
As explained earlier Turkey is Russia's bipolar girlfriend.
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
Syrian Defense Minister: Today we are fighting a fierce ongoing battle with the most brutal terrorist organizations that use gang tactics
What happened in Hama today was a tactical measure and our forces are still around the city
What happened in Hama today is a temporary tactical measure and our forces are still around the city
These Takfiri organizations are backed by well-known regional and international countries that support them militarily and logistically
We are in a good field situation and our armed forces have worked to redeploy to preserve lives
We advise our people in Syria to be patient and steadfast, and we will not hesitate to restore security to the areas occupied by terrorists
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench2/15883
What happened in Hama today was a tactical measure and our forces are still around the city
What happened in Hama today is a temporary tactical measure and our forces are still around the city
These Takfiri organizations are backed by well-known regional and international countries that support them militarily and logistically
We are in a good field situation and our armed forces have worked to redeploy to preserve lives
We advise our people in Syria to be patient and steadfast, and we will not hesitate to restore security to the areas occupied by terrorists
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench2/15883
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
A massive counterattack from the SAA is unfolding against the city of Hama, recently captured by the rebel onslaught.
The combined use of armor from the Tiger brigade has been sighted to the cities north-west, while paratroopers are claimed to be dropping to the North/North-East. Operations of this fake demonstrate substantial preparation and planning, poses questions of a trap.
The collapse of the SAA front was unusual because, although desertions can happen, Syria’s elite brigades were nowhere to be seen. It seems they are now entering the fray.
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench2/15894
The combined use of armor from the Tiger brigade has been sighted to the cities north-west, while paratroopers are claimed to be dropping to the North/North-East. Operations of this fake demonstrate substantial preparation and planning, poses questions of a trap.
The collapse of the SAA front was unusual because, although desertions can happen, Syria’s elite brigades were nowhere to be seen. It seems they are now entering the fray.
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench2/15894
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Eugenio Argentina- Posts : 5517
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Re: Syrian War: News #23
The Pentagon is preparing for the possible evacuation of American units from Syria amid the advance of terrorists.
t.me/ForeignAgentIntel
t.me/ForeignAgentIntel
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