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    Syrian War: News #23

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    Post  Broski Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:27 am

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Members of Kurdish militia gathered and demonstrated in front of the Russian outpost at the entrance to the Qamishli Airport in  #Hasakah.
     They are demanding the Russia army act against the Turkish bombardment of Kurdish positions in northern Syria.
    #Syria #SDF #Syrianarmy🇸🇾
    https://twitter.com/SteeleSyAA/status/1556815089604235264
    The YPG and SDF are free to submit themselves to the sole, legal, governing authority over the Sovereign State of Syria if they want Russian protection that bad, other than that, they can beg Joe Biden to save them from the Turks.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:46 am

    https://thecradle.co/Article/News/15742

    Turkey seeks Syria’s assistance in tackling Kurdish threat
    The prospects of a Turkish-Syrian reconciliation also factored into Hamas's recent decision to restore ties with Syria
    By News Desk - September 16 2022

    Syrian President Bashar al-Assad (R) with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan during a meeting in Aleppo on 6 February 2011. (Photo credit: SANA)

    Reuters reported on 15 September that the head of Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization (MIT), Hakan Fidan, has paid several visits to Damascus in the past month to meet his Syrian counterpart Ali Mamlouk.

    The Turkish spy chief and Syria’s special security adviser to President Bashar Al-Assad met to resume talks to end a decade-long bloody dispute.

    Fidan and Mamlouk discussed the possibility of preparing the first public meeting between the foreign ministers in a step to lay the groundwork for public talks.

    “Russia wants Syria and Turkey to overcome their problems and achieve certain agreements, which are in the interest of everyone,” Reuters quoted a Turkish official.

    He added that neither Turkey nor Russia are interested in seeing Iran step in to fill the gap they may leave in Syria, in case an agreement is reached.

    Ankara has also asked Damascus to compromise by giving a chance to the Turkish-backed militants in the Idlib governorate to join the talks.

    Allegedly, Russia has asked Turkey to normalize relations with Damascus in a push to “accelerate a political solution” in Syria.

    Earlier on 8 September, UK-based online newspaper Al-Araby reported that Fidan met with Mamlouk under Russian mediation.

    Reportedly, the meeting was not fruitful, but was sufficient in laying  the framework for further meetings between the two, while creating  the space for “Damascus and Ankara to set out their demands.”

    These meetings come as a result of Turkey’s decision to gradually exit the Syrian battlefield – but not before it gets its security guarantees regarding the Kurdish presence on its borders.

    In August, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced Turkey has no intentions of overthrowing Assad, citing possible cooperation.

    “We do not have the dilemma of overthrowing or not overthrowing Assad. We hope for the adoption of a new constitution in Syria, which will stabilize the situation,” Erdogan was quoted by CNN Turk.

    Furthermore, he accused the US coalition in Syria of harboring “Kurdish terrorists” and fostering terrorism by allowing Turkish-designated terrorist groups to operate freely on its borders.

    “We say that right now our intelligence services are already dealing with these issues with the Syrian intelligence, but the whole point is to get results,” Erdogan announced during his one-day visit to Russia.

    Similarly, on 27 July, Turkish state-media Anadolu Agency reported that Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu announced Turkey’s full readiness to support the Syrian government in confronting the People’s Defense Units (YPG) and the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK).

    In light of these developments, along with Turkey’s recent reconciliation with Israel, Hamas took the decision on 15 September to officially recognize the government in Damascus and call for deepening ties between the two.

    In a statement, Hamas condemned Israel’s continued aggressions in Syria, and said it is looking forward to seeing Damascus regain its position in the Arab and Islamic world.

    “We take sides with any nation in the face of the malicious Zionist plans aimed at dividing it and plundering its resources,” Hamas officials added.

    This decision will bear fruit for the Axis of Resistance in Syria by enabling Hamas to build infrastructure and train beyond its existing borders in Gaza.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:36 pm

    Never forget

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    For Syria, for all Syrian people regardless of their religion and tribe

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    Post  Hole Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:31 pm

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    Russians delivering aid to some village.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:08 pm

    Looks like things are moving following the TAF attacks.

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    #Syria

    While the Turkish occupiers are attacking Kurdish formations in northeastern Syria, the Russian military is carrying out humanitarian actions in Qamishli and Jrin in Suwayda

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    "Protecting the region is the Syrian Arab Army's mission, and we are looking forward to coordinate in confronting the Turkish threats," says the #SDF commander-in-chief Mazloum Abdi.


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    1/3 At the meeting held in #Qamishli, Russia asked the YPG to withdraw all its military presence from the Turkish border to the M4 road (and leave the entire region to the government). https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-nov

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    2/3 Otherwise, Russia warned the #YPG that Turkey's military operation was inevitable. YPG has rejected it

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    3/3 If the Westerners don't stop Turkey, it's the end of the #Kurdish autonomy in northeastern #Syria. But can Europe and the United States oppose to Turkey in the context of the Ukrainian crisis? Which scenario in the next weeks?

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    Post  lancelot Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:14 pm

    I guess the Turks want some oil for their new Ottoman Empire. The oil in both Syrian and Iraqi Kurdish areas.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:15 pm

    Meanwhile in an alternative universe.

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    The US needs to preserve the idea of an "ISIS threat" in Syria to justify its continued occupation of Syrian territory and theft of Syrian oil. ISIS was, in reality, beaten a long time ago by the Syrian Arab Army and their Russian, Iranian & Hezbollah allies.

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    1st - US said years ago ISIS is defeated
    2nd - The Syrian Arab Army along with Russia could also take out the rest of those clowns
    3rd - we all know why US is there - to steal Syrian oil -
    so give us a break here please

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    NATO ally Turkish forces fired artillery at SDF targets in Amuda, Syria. The SDF is the only partner force the US has on the ground in Syria to fight ISIS. If the US loses this Kurdish ally, the fight against ISIS is lost. Turkey’s actions are jeopardizing the entire ISIS mission

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    Post  Broski Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:55 pm

    I hope the SAA withdraws and lets the SDF/YPG fight the Turks on their own, either way whoever occupies Northern Syria the Syrian government won't be getting that land back anytime soon so why risk their troops for the Kurds who want to annex 1/3rd of Syrian land?

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pm

    I guess the Turks want some oil for their new Ottoman Empire. The oil in both Syrian and Iraqi Kurdish areas.

    Doubt it
    It's more related to geopolitical imperatives. The Kurds have been rising up in Iran egged on by the US. The need for Turkey to drive away the remaining US presence from its border has become more acute, as the same tactics can be repeated against Turkey if it continues drifting away from NATO. And the US in turn, will hardly just discard a good card like that.

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    Post  Werewolf Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:11 pm

    I wouldn't dismiss the motivation for Turkey to extend it's autonomic capabilities and pan-turkic sphere of influence. Having access to oil fields will certainly increase their presence and power in the region and among other members of the turkic alliance.

    The Turks are very sneaky and follow only their own interest. It would deny Syria from gaining more power once the terrorist filth is cleared and could challange turkish attempts of being regional dominator. The Turks don't like the idea that anyone is a regional power not even the Israelis. Both of them have goals for a "greater cuntry".

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:28 pm

    No wonder that Israel is pissed off with Iran at the moment. They really don't want one of these chasing their aircraft home.

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    The sources claim it's related to operational use of #IRGC Bavar-373 air defense


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    Post  sepheronx Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:49 pm

    Where are these Iranian AD systems located?
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:14 am


    Syria - Another Turkish Invasion Is Imminent

    After two years of relative quietness the situation in Syria is again escalating.

    This follows a terror attack in Istanbul two weeks ago allegedly committed by a woman who had traveled there from the Kurdish controlled city of Kobani in northeast Syria. Turkey accused the U.S., which is occupying northeast Syria, of complicity in the attack.

    A week after the Istanbul incident Turkey started to bomb Kurdish positions in east Syria. It has now threatened to (again) invade it.

    I have not written about the conflict for quite a while and there are many new readers. So here is a list of names and abbreviations relevant to the story:

    PKK - Kurdistan Workers Party - fighting, often with terrorist methods, for a larger Kurdistan country to be formed from Kurdish areas in Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey
    YPG - People's Defense Units - Kurdish-Syrian part of the PKK, currently silently allied with the U.S. occupation force in eastern Syria
    YPJ - Female units of the YPG
    SDF - Syrian Democratic Forces - 'former' YPG currently openly allied with the U.S. occupation force in eastern Syria
    Mazlum - 'former' YPG head, current SDF head in Syria collaborating with the U.S.
    Rojava - self-administrating area in northeast Syria under SDF / U.S. control
    Barzani - head of government in the Kurdish ruled province in north Iraq - hostile to PKK/YPG, friend with U.S.
    SAA - Syrian Arab Army - Syria's regular military
    HTS - Hayat Tahir al-Sham - Al-Qaeda derivative, Turkish proxy which rules parts of northwest Syria

    Stealing from the Turkish commentator Agitpapa here is, slightly edited, the latest news from the area.

    agitpapa @agitpapa - 9:09 UTC · 26 Nov 2022

    It's the PKK's anniversary tomorrow and there are rumors that Turkey wants to kick off its land war against the Kurds in Rojava on that date.

    Three days of Turkish airstrikes allegedly greenlit by Russia and the US - although the Turks claim they were all from inside Turkish airspace - have devastated the civilian and military infrastructure of Rojava. Power generation was knocked out, leaving 65K villages in the dark. Oil wells, the LNG bottling plant, and grain silos were destroyed and top SDF bases in Hasaka were bombed, including Mazlum's HQ.

    The US only registered a weak protest against its main occupation base being bombed by a NATO member. Airstrikes also hit SAA and Russian positions in Tal Tamer, killing SAA soldiers. SDF sources claim the Russians evacuated shortly before the airstrike.

    The Turks bombed over 40 targets in both US- and Russian-controlled areas, in N Syria as well as Jazeera, tracing a wide map of the many-sided blackmail and treachery that seems to be culminating now with the total cleansing of the Kurdish population:

    The Ukraine blackmail of the Turks vs Russia, extracting Russian acquiescence in exchange for their economic/political support for Russia against the West, the treachery of the SDF, allying itself with the imperialist global hegemon against the Syrian people and Russia, and the treachery of the US, stabbing its colonial Kurdish army in the back yet again.

    The pro-PKK former SDF spox Mustafa Bali made it very clear how he sees the betrayal of his people. He's from the PKK and knows that NATO has never meant anything but death for his people.

    Yes, the Yanks briefly helped the Kurds defeat ISIS, which they themselves created, but it turned out that it was only to turn the YPG/YPJ into their colonial army.

    For Syrian Kurds, the great enemy is still Assad and his ally Russia but the PKK knows better.

    As the PKK resists the Turkish invasion in the Iraqi Zap river area, Barzani stabs it in the back while NATO and the EU heap praises on Barzani and try to pressure the SDF into submitting to him. Even Mazlum couldn't betray the PKK that much but still remains in the service of the Yanks.

    Today the Russians gave the YPG one last chance:

    Balanche @FabriceBalanche - 10:43 UTC · 26 Nov 2022

    At the meeting held in Qamishli, Russia asked the YPG to withdraw all its military presence from the Turkish border to the M4 road (and leave the entire region to the government). Otherwise, Russia warned the #YPG that Turkey's military operation was inevitable. The YPG has rejected it.

    If the Westerners don't stop Turkey, it's the end of the Kurdish autonomy in northeastern Syria. But can Europe and the United States oppose to Turkey in the context of the Ukrainian crisis?

    In my view the 'westerner's' still need the wannabe Sultan Erdogan and can not a risk a further drift of Turkey towards Russia. If Erdogan wants to invade northeast Syria he can now do so. The Kurdish leaders, in their never ending obstinacy, will again sacrifice their people.

    Posted by b on November 26, 2022 at 16:01 UTC

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/11/syria-another-turkish-invasion-is-imminent.html#more

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    Post  Kiko Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:45 am

    Operation Claw-Sword: Erdogan’s Big New Game in Syria, by Pepe Escobar for Asia Times. 11.27.2022.

    There’s another Special Military Operation on the market. No, it’s not Russia “denazifying” and “demilitarizing” Ukraine – and, therefore, it’s no wonder that this other operation is not ruffling feathers across the collective West.

    Operation Claw-Sword was launched by Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan as revenge – highly emotional and concerted – for Kurdish terrorist attacks against Turkish citizens. Some of the missiles that Ankara launched in this aerial campaign carried the names of Turkish victims.

    The official Ankara spin is that the Turkish Armed Forces fully achieved their “air operation objectives” in the north of Syria and in Iraqi Kurdistan, and made those responsible for the terror attack against civilians in Istanbul’s Istiklal pedestrian street pay in “multitudes.”

    And this is supposed to be just the first stage. For the third time in 2022, Sultan Erdogan is also promising a ground invasion of Kurdish-held territories in Syria.

    However, according to diplomatic sources, that’s not going to happen – even as scores of Turkish experts are adamant that the invasion is needed sooner rather than later.

    The wily Sultan is caught between his electorate, which favors an invasion, and his extremely nuanced relations with Russia – which encompass a large geopolitical and geo-economic arc.

    He well knows that Moscow can apply all manner of pressure levers to dissuade him. For instance, Russia at the last minute annulled the weekly dispatch of a joint Russo-Turkish patrol in Ain al Arab that was taking place on Mondays.

    Ain al Arab is a highly strategic territory: the missing link, east of the Euphrates, capable of offering continuity between Idlib and Ras al Ayn, occupied by dodgy Turkish-aligned gangs near the Turkish border.

    Erdogan knows he can’t jeopardize his positioning as potential EU-Russia mediator while obtaining maximum profit from bypassing the anti-Russian embargo-sanctions combo.

    The Sultan, juggling multiple serious dossiers, is deeply convinced that he’s got what it takes to bring Russia and NATO to the negotiating table and, ultimately, end the war in Ukraine.

    In parallel, he thinks he may stay on top of Turkey-Israel relations; a rapprochement with Damascus; the sensitive internal situation in Iran; Turkey-Azerbaijan relations; the non-stop metamorphoses across the Mediterranean; and the drive towards Eurasia integration.

    He’s hedging all his bets between NATO and Eurasia.

    'Close down all of our southern borders’

    The green light for Claw-Sword came from Erdogan while he was on his presidential plane, returning from the G20 in Bali. That happened only one day after he had met US President Joe Biden where, according to a presidential Erdogan statement, the subject had not come up.

    “We held no meeting with Mr Biden or [Russian President Vladimir] Putin regarding the operation. They both already know that we can do such things at any moment in this region,” the statement said.

    Washington not getting briefed on Claw-Sword mirrored Erdogan not getting invited to an extraordinary G7-NATO meeting in Bali, on the sidelines of the G20.

    That meeting was called by the White House to deal with the by-now notorious Ukrainian S-300 missile that fell in Polish territory. At the time, no one at the table had any conclusive evidence about what happened. And Turkey was not even invited to the table – which profoundly incensed the Sultan.

    So it’s no wonder Erdogan, mid-week, said that Claw-Sword was “just the beginning.” Addressing AKP party lawmakers in Parliament, he said Turkey is determined to “close down all of our southern borders … with a security corridor that will prevent the possibility of attacks on our country.”

    The ground invasion promise remains: It will begin “at the most convenient time for us” and will target the regions of Tel Rifaat, Mambij and Kobane, which the Sultan called “sources of trouble.”

    Ankara has already wreaked havoc, using drones, on the main headquarters of the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces, whose commanders believe the main target of a potential Turkish ground invasion would be Kobane.

    Significantly, this is the first time a Turkish drone targeted an area extremely close to a US base. And Kobane is highly symbolic: the place where the Americans sealed a collaboration with Syrian Kurds to – in theory – fight ISIS.

    And that explains why the Syrian Kurds are appalled by the American non-response to the Turkish strikes. They blame – who else? – the Sultan for stoking “nationalist sentiments” ahead of the 2023 elections, which Erdogan now stands a great chance to win despite the catastrophic state of the Turkish economy.

    As it stands, there is no Turkish troop buildup near Kobane – just airstrikes. Which brings us to the all-important Russian factor.

    Manbij and Tel Rifaat, west of the Euphrates, are much more important for Russia than Kobane, because they are both vital for the defense of Aleppo against possible Salafi-jihadi attacks.

    What may potentially happen in the near future makes the situation even murkier. Ankara intel may use Hayat Tahrir al-Sham jihadis – which have already taken over parts of Afrin – as a sort of “vanguard” in a ground invasion of Syrian Kurd territory.

    Selling stolen Syrian oil to Turkey

    The current fog of war includes the notion that the Russians may have sold out the Kurds by leaving them exposed to Turkish bombing. That does not hold – because Russia’s influence over Syrian Kurd territory is negligible compared with the US’s. Only the Americans could “sell out” the Kurds.

    The more things change, the more they remain the same in Syria. It could all be summarized as a monumental impasse. This gets even more surrealist because, in effect, Ankara and Moscow have already found the solution for the Syrian tragedy.

    The problem is the presence of American forces – essentially protecting those shabby convoys stealing Syrian oil. Russians and Syrians always discuss it. The conclusion is that the Americans are staying by inertia. They do it because they can. And Damascus is powerless to expel them.

    The Sultan plays the whole thing with consummate cynicism – in geopolitics and geo-economics. Most of what is unresolved in Syria revolves around territories occupied by de facto gangs that call themselves Kurds, protected by the US. They traffic Syrian oil to resell it mostly to … Turkey.

    And then, in a flash, armed gangs that call themselves Kurds may simply abandon their “anti-terrorist” fight by … releasing the terrorists they apprehended, thus increasing the “terrorist threat” all over northeast Syria. They blame – who else? – Turkey. In parallel, the Americans increase financial aid to these armed gangs under the pretext of a “war on terror.”

    The distinction between “armed gangs” and “terrorists” is of course razor thin. What matters most of all to Erdogan is that he can use the Kurds as a currency in trade negotiations linked to bypassing anti-Russian embargoes and sanctions.

    And that explains why the Sultan may decide to bomb Syrian territory whenever he sees fit, despite any condemnation by Washington or Moscow. The Russians once in a while retake the initiative on the ground – as happened during the Idlib campaign in 2020 when Russians bombed the Turkish military forces that were providing “assistance” to Salafi-jihadis.

    Now a game-changer may be on the cards. The Turkish Army bombed the al-Omar oilfield north of Deir ez-Zor. What this means in practice is that Ankara is now destroying no less than the oil infrastructure of the much-lauded “Kurdish autonomy.”

    This infrastructure has been cynically exploited by the US when it comes to the oil that reaches the border with Iraq in Iraqi Kurdistan. So in a sense, Ankara is striking against Syrian Kurds and simultaneously against American robbery of Syrian oil.

    The definitive game-changer may be approaching. That will be the meeting between Erdogan and Bashar al-Assad, (Remember the decade-long refrain “Assad must go”?)

    Location: Russia. Mediator: Vladimir Putin, in person. It’s not far-fetched to imagine this meeting paving the way for those Kurdish armed gangs, essentially played by Washington as useful idiots, to end up being decimated by Ankara.

    https://www.unz.com/pescobar/operation-claw-sword-erdogans-big-new-game-in-syria/

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    Post  lancelot Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:02 am

    Well, Erdogan has his point in wanting to hit the Kurds after their terrorist strike in Turkey. But from what I got the perps came from Afrin which is basically controlled by Turkish proxies. The Turks caused this mess themselves by letting insurgents funded by Qatar and Saudi Arabia with support of the US infiltrate into Syria from the north in the first place. That destabilized the whole region and gave the Kurds freedom of action when they previously were under the control of the Syrian government. It is also funny watching the US/NATO fund YPG and indirectly the PKK Kurdish Workers Party which is basically a communist Kurdish faction. For example Germany sold the YPG Panzerfaust-3 ATGMs much to Turkey's chagrin. This was a break from Germany's supposedly previous stance of not selling weapons to nations in conflict and probably opened up the grounds to them sending weapons to Ukraine today.

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    Post  nomadski Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:36 am



    Well the Kurds should forget about a unified Kurdish homeland in the middle East . Their leaders should know this to be an unachievable aim . Instead of sending armed groups across borders , they should conduct separate political struggles in the different territories they live in . In Syria , they best form a federated Republic or devolved government with the central government , allowing for a degree of autonomy , preserving their interests , instead of alliances with Americans . Same in Turkiye or Iran or Iraq .

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Dec 31, 2022 5:40 pm

    This is important. Russian mediation in action.

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    Fantastic news, Turkey withdraws from N Syria:

    Türkiye has agreed to fully withdraw its troops from northern Syria following tripartite talks involving Moscow, Ankara and Damascus earlier this week.
    - Al-Watan

    Also means that Turkey and Russia relationships are getting better.

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    🇹🇷🇸🇾Ankara, following the talks held in Moscow, agreed to withdraw the Turkish military from the territories controlled by them in northern Syria, the Syrian newspaper Al Watan writes.

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    According to the source of the publication, the result of the meeting of the defense ministers of Russia, Syria and Turkey was "Turkey's consent to the complete withdrawal of [Turkish forces] from the occupied areas in the north of the [Arab republic], as well as Ankara's confirmation of [its intention] to respect the sovereignty and integrity of the Syrian territories."

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 01, 2023 9:44 am

    Like the Americans wouldn't do worse to a bunch of armed Syrians on US soil illegally...

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    Iran deployed Bawar 373 air defense system in Syria
    Reza Abbasi wrote a few minutes ago:
    According to reports, the Islamic Republic of Iran has deployed the Bavar 373 defense system in Syria to repel any threat from the Zionist regime.
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    Iran had supposedly tried to enter one or two Tor systems on T3. However, these are said to have been destroyed immediately after landing before it became active.

    If Iran increasingly attached its own systems there again, this could soon lead to attacks on Syria to the end of the IDF or an escalation.

    Recently it was also reported that there are only TorM1 systems around Natanz, many. Iran actually seems to produce these systems more.

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