Syrian War: News #23

Isos wrote:

crod wrote:

Isos wrote:

Israeli MoD forbided two days ago transfert of its weapons by anyone to Ukraine. They don't want to deteriorate their relation with Russia.

Which is why the Iranians left Russia the other week with the sum of fcuk all in military sales agreements. There is an agreement between both countries that israel will not sell the Ukraine drones etc and Russia will not sell the Iranians anything. They didn’t even have Russian and Iranian flags present during the meeting not to mention a military guard welcome for him (the president of Iran) lol. A prayer mat on the floor in a room. The sum of fcuk all.

This is exactly the reason why israel will not be targeting Russian bases as the article suggested, in fact there’s more chance of me doing so single-handedly.

The relationship between Russia and israel is infinitely more important to the Russians than that of Iran by a factor of ten.

I doubt. There is no contract for selling anything between Russia and Iran yet.

Not giving access to ukraine to israel small weapons isn't gonna change a long term agreement between Iran and Russia for fighters and S-400. And the story is about israel not letting baltic states send israeli weapons.

It has more to do with the fact that if Israel doesn't want Russia to start helping Iran bringing missiles inside Syria they better not start providing weapons to Ukraine.

Last week there was a military exercice btw Iran and Russia and China. IMO it's Iran that has still not signed anything while they have signed a big agreement with China. They may be still thinking about what to buy and when to buy it.

Isos wrote:

crod wrote:

Isos wrote:

Israeli MoD forbided two days ago transfert of its weapons by anyone to Ukraine. They don't want to deteriorate their relation with Russia.

Which is why the Iranians left Russia the other week with the sum of fcuk all in military sales agreements. There is an agreement between both countries that israel will not sell the Ukraine drones etc and Russia will not sell the Iranians anything. They didn’t even have Russian and Iranian flags present during the meeting not to mention a military guard welcome for him (the president of Iran) lol. A prayer mat on the floor in a room. The sum of fcuk all.

This is exactly the reason why israel will not be targeting Russian bases as the article suggested, in fact there’s more chance of me doing so single-handedly.

The relationship between Russia and israel is infinitely more important to the Russians than that of Iran by a factor of ten.

I doubt. There is no contract for selling anything between Russia and Iran yet.

Not giving access to ukraine to israel small weapons isn't gonna change a long term agreement between Iran and Russia for fighters and S-400. And the story is about israel not letting baltic states send israeli weapons.

It has more to do with the fact that if Israel doesn't want Russia to start helping Iran bringing missiles inside Syria they better not start providing weapons to Ukraine.

Last week there was a military exercice btw Iran and Russia and China. IMO it's Iran that has still not signed anything while they have signed a big agreement with China. They may be still thinking about what to buy and when to buy it.

nomadski wrote:@ d-taddei2

"....I doubt China will risk investing in BRI in Syria until fully secure. Especially when you are talking about Syria being partitioned that makes investment in such initiative even worse....." You may be right of course . But the same could be said about any part of the ME or the world . The BRI may come under attack in a few years time , in an otherwise stable and peaceful country . There could be instability there . So the world has got to come to a stop ? I said before that an organisation like CSTO could be set up to specifically protect BRI and associated industrial cities around it . Also the Road does not have to built from East to West , all the time . It can be built from West to East in Syria . Expanding East . Even if it meets a dead end , no great loss . Since it has connected as far as it could connect for now . Also to help private industry to move in , respective governments could provide  financial cover for any damages to property or workers by insurance policy  . A state is big enough to do this !


@ Mir

"...I don't think any Syrian partition is on the cards simply because Kurdish independence would surely mean a full scale Turkish invasion. The Kurds have always been treated respectfully by the Syrians government and has always been considered part of Syria. US sanctions on Syria will never be lifted as long as Assad remains in power. The US failed regime change in Syria is similar to the failures in Cuba and Venezuela. It is an embarrassment for the "number one" nation in the world and they don't take these failures particularly well..... " ..........The Turks would be confronted by America , or US backed Kurdish fighters , if they invaded . Even if they occupied Kurdish lands , they would face endemic resistance . Made worse by unification of Kurdish forces . The best they could do , is what they have done . Divide the Kurdish lands North to South and stop access to Sea . Agree that the Yanks will continue with hostility towards Assad .

lancelot wrote:Ukraine is producing the IMI Tavor rifle under license at RPC Fort. They also bought machine guns and sniper rifles.
I guess it helps that they forbade the transfer of 8 km range Spike ATGMs from NATO to Ukraine.

d_taddei2 wrote:

lancelot wrote:Ukraine is producing the IMI Tavor rifle under license at RPC Fort. They also bought machine guns and sniper rifles.
I guess it helps that they forbade the transfer of 8 km range Spike ATGMs from NATO to Ukraine.

They have been given plenty of javelins. And it will take a lot more than small arms to win a war in the Donbass

miketheterrible wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:

lancelot wrote:Ukraine is producing the IMI Tavor rifle under license at RPC Fort. They also bought machine guns and sniper rifles.
I guess it helps that they forbade the transfer of 8 km range Spike ATGMs from NATO to Ukraine.

They have been given plenty of javelins. And it will take a lot more than small arms to win a war in the Donbass

Yeah, I mean while the Tavor is a pretty decent rifle, what advantage will it give to Ukies who used AK-74's?  Absolutely nothing.  The AK-74 was already a fantastic rifle which is more than capable and replacing it with Tavor is pointless.  It is similar to replacing the AK-74 for any other rifle other than for trying to make it lighter and stronger material (and easier for attachments).

So the advantage isn't there.  

But I get what he is saying.  It is because Israel has already transferred tech and weapons to Ukraine, that Russia should be working closer with Iran.  I am not against Russians assisting the Persians, but I also am not for fighting with the Israelites.  Russia does have good relations with Israelis' for most part.  Maybe not with the government.

Who cares what Israel will supply to the Ukraine?

They supplied weapons to Georgia too. Did it help?

nomadski wrote:@ d-taddei2

"....As for taking risks there is always a risk and nobody can foresee any future conflict. What is certain is Syria is here and now, the conflict is happening. And to invest in a country during such and not knowing what will happen or when USA will pack it's bags, is a different type of risk. And if USA knows BRI wil pass through, u can bet they will prolong it as much as they can out of spite nothing else....."

Russia already investing in Syria as well as Iran and China . Russia by providing security , Iran in civilian reconstruction and China , I think in power generation . The starting point need not be Roads or Rail links . But say industrial and economic developments around Damascus itself and port areas of coastal towns . Security here can be provided in localised areas with a boundary  or border . Half the battle is to win hearts and minds . Once local population see safety and jobs and healthcare , compared to refugee camp in Syria or Turkey or ISIS blow yourself up on a Sunday or Kurdish serfdom to Yankee doodle in the empty desert . Then they will join us . Battle will be won . Roads will come a little later .

lancelot wrote:The Russians overflew Al-Tanf with Tu-22M3 just the other day. The US still didn't get the memo?
They have overstayed their welcome.

miketheterrible wrote:Johnin or others, now that bosphorus is closed, I wonder what are other areas Russia can transfer besides Iran and Iraq?

JohninMK wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Johnin or others, now that bosphorus is closed, I wonder what are other areas Russia can transfer besides Iran and Iraq?

With all the Ukrainian stuff I missed that. Link to announcement?

miketheterrible wrote:

For some reason I can't paste with brave browser.

It's on RT.

miketheterrible wrote:Johnin or others, now that bosphorus is closed, I wonder what are other areas Russia can transfer besides Iran and Iraq?