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    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20 #4

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    Post  Mir Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:02 pm

    Some common sense (which mostly come only from Russia these days)

    https://www.rt.com/russia/546080-nationwide-vaccine-passports-plans/

    Russia makes vaccine passports policy change
    Officials say the proposed legislation is not suited to the current coronavirus situation
    Russia makes vaccine passports policy change

    Russian lawmakers have postponed consideration of a bill that would introduce a nationwide system of QR-code vaccine passes, saying that the law needs to be adapted to deal with the new Omicron variant of Covid-19.

    Tatyana Golikova, the deputy prime minister for social policy, labor, health and pension provision, told journalists on Friday that government officials, together with leaders of ruling party United Russia, had decided the proposed legislation would need to be adjusted before it could be considered further. Originally, the law aimed to consolidate policies across different local governments, many of which require proof of vaccination to enter restaurants, bars, clubs, and mass events.

    “Considering the many unknowns about the development of the epidemiological situation, the government and the United Russia party made a mutual decision to postpone the second reading of the bill,” Golikova stated.

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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:05 pm



    In Australia, Canada and all the other British derived regimes, the Prime Minister is basically a dictator. His
    whims get obeyed by the whole system down to the local level. You can yap about democracy and opposition
    all you want, but it is clear from living under this system, that as long as the government is confident in surviving
    a no-confidence vote it can exert total power even if it has a minority position in the legislature (House of Commons).
    If it has a majority, then it can push through anything.

    In the US, the President does not have this sort of insane power. Unlike in Canada, Australia, etc., the courts have
    the executive branch on a tight leash. We see this with Biden failing to get his vaxxing mandates rammed through
    as if they were the equivalent of law. Mandates are not law. In Canada, there is no such protection. The covid
    internment camps show that Australia is f*cking toilet run by a literal criminal despot.

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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:18 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Several people here in India across age groups are dying due to cardiac arrest anywhere between 7 days to 6 months after taking the vaccine. This is the latest case

    https://twitter.com/Rita_Banerji/status/1482085532813643780?s=20

    The delayed reaction is to be expected from the mRNA vaxxes that spew spike proteins into the vasuclar system. They generate chronic inflammation
    that leads to long term damage and heart attacks. But myyocarditis and pericarditis emerge shortly after vaxxing. As I posted earlier in the autopsy
    report they can lead to heart failure depending on how the inflammation is distributed. Having late stage atherosclerosis is not required for risk of
    death.

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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:26 pm



    So the 260 "doctors and scientists" who signed a political attack letter on Rogan for spreading
    covid "misinformation" consist of a slew of people with zero qualifications to judge Dr. Malone's
    science.

    -communicators (i.e. media)
    -nurses
    -physicians (family doctors, aka pill pushers)
    -social workers
    -psychologists
    -therapists
    -osteopaths, nephrologists and other specialists who do not have even related qualifictions
    relevant for immunology
    -dentists
    -cyber security consultants
    -veterinarians

    Out of the list shown in the video I am not seeing anyone with the relevant virology and immunology
    background. Maybe some of these people can do the research and get informed, but considering the
    political nature of this letter I doubt any of them care about the facts. That they have a PhD does not
    make them experts on vaccine pathology. They not only need a PhD in the relevant field, they need to
    be up to date on the topics that Dr. Malone is discussing.



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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:46 am

    In Australia, Canada and all the other British derived regimes, the Prime Minister is basically a dictator.

    Morrison is no dictator, but he is a politician who is not super popular and has made mistakes, so his people will be carefully trying to monitor Australian public opinion to work out what would get him better ratings in the polls, so it is pretty obvious that the majority of Aussies don't care about rich foreigners making lots of money in Australia flouting the rules that they have been forced to follow for two years already.

    As PM he has to protect the population and I honestly don't think this Serbian tennis player is a threat to public safety in Australia... some people might not like him, but that does not matter... what the PM cares about is getting more people to like him and he will do anything his advisors tell him will do that.

    When I was a kid we had a sheep for a bit... it was a time of low rainfall and a family friend had a sheep farm so we got this sheep that we called Morrison after a popular brand of motor mowers for cutting the grass. We bought him from the friend at a good price for him and we kept him for a few years eating our grass and then when he was of the age they normally send them to the works off we went and got about 20 times what we paid for him in fresh meat. We got a pet sheep and lots of meat very cheaply and the farmer got paid what he would have been paid for a mature animal when it was still young and reduced the number of mouths consuming his dry pastures... everyone was happy... and he was delicious too...

    Only reason I can remember Morrison is the PM of Australia, not very charismatic or memorable otherwise... ironic that we have horse face and they have a sheep... very rural down here... Smile
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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:32 am

    Looking at the corona cases and deaths graphs at worldmeters.info/coronavirus I am seeing an interesting pattern.
    Countries with mRNA (Pfizer and Moderna) vaxxing have higher mortality than the UK which had the AZ vaccine in
    the Omicron wave. This is accounting for the increased case load. Russia is still too early into its Omicron wave
    to judge as there is a several day lag in the deaths. It has just gone through a substantial Delta wave.

    So Canada, Germany, Denmark and Norway have higher death rates from Omicron (assuming it is not still Delta
    overlapping Omicron). Israel and the southern Europe countries that are generally not buried in winter weather
    have smaller death rates compared to northern European states. The Irish data is suspicious.

    I suppose it is better to wait for the Russian numbers, but the pattern I am seeing is consistent with the mRNA
    vaccines weakening the immune system. The UK numbers are skewed by Scotland which uses the mRNA wonder
    cures (to prove that it is not English I suppose) and also by boosters being done with Pfizer and Moderna concoctions
    (what a retarded move to both have booster and to not use AZ). I think that the Russian death rate will fall from
    its current level which is clearly due to a Delta wave. The AZ and Sputnik V vaccines are adenovirus vector vaccines
    and do not spew spike proteins into the heart and organs like the Pfizer and Moderna garbage.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:06 pm

    Sputnik V
    @sputnikvaccine
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    14 Jan
    Russia leads the way in promoting fair approach to #COVID protection status.

    Today Russia said it will issue #COVID certificates to all Russians & foreigners with enough antibodies regardless of vaccine brand.

    Such approach is fair as Sputnik said before. Others should follow.

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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:52 pm



    In case anyone thought the vaxxing was about health.

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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:55 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Sputnik V
    @sputnikvaccine
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    Russia leads the way in promoting fair approach to #COVID protection status.

    Today Russia said it will issue #COVID certificates to all Russians & foreigners with enough antibodies regardless of vaccine brand.

    Such approach is fair as Sputnik said before. Others should follow.

    This is still BS. Omicron is no reason to get vaxxed and to submit to any testing and control. Covid is now a total human
    rights abuse farce. It is not getting more virulent and was never at the level of the black plague. All the people who
    needed the vaccines got them already. All those that did not get vaxxed do not needed it and the few that do are free
    to take their lives into their own hands. Everyone has paid for those precious hospital beds already.

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    Post  Mir Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:03 pm

    This BS is not even remotely close to the Spanish flu.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 17, 2022 3:02 am

    So you keep saying...

    But health professionals in most countries seem to think they would not be overworked and their hospital systems stretched to overload if everyone was vaccinated...
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Jan 17, 2022 3:57 am

    So my buddy caught it (double vaccinated) and now I think I got it (also double vaccinated). I'm gonna get the test done tomorrow and see.

    But yeah, two of my friends and two of my coworkers got it. All double vaxxed.
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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:33 am

    Taking Pfizer and Moderna against Omicron is certifiably insane. Using this logic every flu and original cold needs to be vaxxed on a routine
    basis.

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    Post  Mir Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:36 am

    miketheterrible wrote:So my buddy caught it (double vaccinated) and now I think I got it (also double vaccinated). I'm gonna get the test done tomorrow and see.

    But yeah, two of my friends and two of my coworkers got it. All double vaxxed.

    Strongs bud. Looks like all the guys on here who got it lately had very mild symptoms.

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    Post  Mir Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:19 pm

    It is definitely not about health and it has nothing to do about tennis either>>

    https://tennistonic.com/tennis-news/382180/i-will-not-give-up-fighting-for-justice-and-truth-says-djokovic-after-opposing-rio-tintos-deal/

    “I will not give up fighting for justice and truth,” says Djokovic after opposing Rio Tinto’s deal

    Rio Tinto is a major exploration company in Australia and it goes without saying - very well connected in high places. Wink

    Novak Djokovic is one of the greatest tennis players in history and he is also a fascinating character.  There were protests in Serbia after the government allowed Rio Tinto to extract lithium despite some health concerns.

    Novak also expressed his position against Rio Tinto's plans. This and the continuing protest also lead to a slump in stock prices for Rio Tinto. Something "Big Business" like these guys would not take very well. And they didn't.

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    Post  Vann7 Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:13 pm

    kvs wrote:Taking Pfizer and Moderna against Omicron is certifiably insane.    Using this logic every flu and original cold needs to be vaxxed on a routine
    basis.  


    https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2022/01/five-nurses-speak-out-about-what-is-really-going-on-in-hospitals-3615288.html

    Don's miss the next video , 5 nurses speak the corruption in hospitals , one of them made headlines
    for exposing how pharma industry pfizer and moderna pay hospitals and doctors money for supporting their experiments they call "vaccines".   they told whenever people die in vaccine trials ,
    to supposedly test if they are "safe" for population, they remove those who get killed ,from the testers list   ,so the vaccine casualty is hidden from public , Wink   is just one trick  they use to manipulate de "Safety" "outweight the risk" propaganda ,they claim about their vaccines.    

    this scandal is a rolling ball ,that if grow will bring down the entire Anglo western pharma industry , if more and more doctors and nurses and politicians , rebel against this fake vaccines depopulation experiments. More republican states (Virginia) are now joining the Florida and texas rebellion against this criminal  vaccines some people in this forum promotes. And promoting instead alternative early medication in the early days of covid ,that have been tested for decades to be safe.

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    @KVS
    don't make the mistake to think that a "different non mrna vaccine" in canada will be good news..
    they can put any cover or label on any package , tell is a "new one" but with a bonus surprise inside.
    -some doctors claiming some "covid test kits" are nose vaccines , that pass under the radar the vaccine in you without your knowledge.
    -wallgreens stores are frequently "by mistake" vaccinating people with the a pfizer or moderna shot
    babies and adults , who went for an influenza shot.
    -some claims of rigged face mask ,designed to get you sick ,or get covid.

    the more time pass ,the more people will speak against this mass scale murdering depopulation experiment with fake vaccines  .

    All people i know who vaccinated with mrna crap.. got covid and required hospital.
    me fully unvaccinated.. super healthy and no covid crap. a  4 year old baby unvaccinated that i personally know ,got omicron and never got sick just a bit watered nose.. we know he got covid because hospital blood test.  almost Everyone that i know that got pfizer or moderna had to visit hospital for help.   not surprising at all.. the vaccines are a complete scam.. far better to deal with the virus with your own clean from vaccines body. and those with health problems ,that get covid, just get early available medication ,that exist for years in hospitals that works very well to stop the virus . hidroxicloro and ivermentine are a few examples of medication effective against covid.
    also simple things like taking sun light and deep breathing exercises are a must , there are scientist that claims ,that covid19 in reality is a problem of oxygenation of the body organs and blood and not a lung illness as believed, covid damage your healthy cells ability to hold oxygen , and that this is why ventilators will not work , if your cells cant hold oxygen anymore .so this is where meditation and deep breathing exercises can help ,to feed more oxygen to your organs by just breathing better and pushing more oxygen , can really improve your health significantly and help your body more easier handle any virus ,including the one today.


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    Post  Mir Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:18 pm

    Welcome back! Again! Smile
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:26 pm

    Mir wrote:Welcome back! Again! Smile




    don't celebrate too much.. dont think will be for long. the pfizer and moderna damage control propagandist in the forum will ban me again.. lol1   but like i said , they can ban me , but they will never stop the truth from showing in the long .

    if im banned again , repost the video .  Wink

    one of best place to get killer news exposing this pandemic fraud..

    https://beforeitsnews.com

    it is mixed with flat earth and aliens and other fake news on purpose ,to not draw the attention
    of the censorship of the internet. so all you need to do is find the credible reports of people that can be verified their credentials ,what they say. and ignore the conspiracies distractions.

    there was another video of the big money companies who are the owners of this criminal vaccines,
    pushed on population , the pharma companies are the front companies , but the head of the snake are international banks and hedge funds corporations ,the master minds of this depopulation agenda.  like blackrock and other big ones. Many of the Top super billionaires in US part of this criminal agenda. George soros for example was offering argentinian government a lot of money , and forgiveness of debt for cooperating with this world dictatorship and depopulation vaccines plan.
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    Post  Mir Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:32 pm

    I know beforeitsnews very well but what you mention is exactly why I do not like them very much. As you say there is a lot of valid stuff on there but also a lot of BS.

    The second video you're talking about sounds like it's from Dr David Martin. He has all the inside details as he was a "you know what" operative, mixing it up with a lot of very dodgy people arseholes. The whole story is quite open for anyone to see. It's actually a joke how easily they pulled it off.

    As they say in the hospitality business (ruined by these guys) - "Enjoy your stay!" Laughing
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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:59 pm

    The Canadian federal and provincial regimes are in no hurry to allow the use of non-mRNA vaccines. So I will
    not have any access to them anyway. Since we now have Omicron I am not interested. It is vastly preferable
    for me to get Omicron and have my immune system deal with it. I have moved my HbA1c out of the pre-diabetic
    range and know what vitamins to take. I also have NAC. But Omicron is not serious enough to bother with NAC.

    We have the cat out of the bag already. For the Alpha and Delta strains which are much more serious than Omicron,
    75% of the hospitalizations involved at least four comorbidities. We are talking about people with metabolic syndrome
    and other diseases. There has been a sustained campaign of fear mongering over covid. It has resulted in mass
    formation psychosis where the unvaxxed are treated as a threat and criminals who need to be rounded up. This is
    in spite of the fact that the vaxxed get covid and spread it. Vaccination was supposed to be about helping individuals
    to deal with a novel virus strain (SARS-Cov-2) and not about millions of retards to feel more secure. All the vaxxed
    have nothing to say about the unvaxxed. You got your wonder cure and shut up. And don't even try to invoke
    the "burden on the health system" non-argument. You clowns are clearly the main burden on it.

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    The Janssen vaccine is shit.

    Edit:

    The video has been removed, i.e. censored.

    It discussed a 39 year old woman who was taking birth control and developed serious clot-related (stroke) damage giving her
    early onset dementia. At her age this is unheard of. I have posted another video from this doctor (real one) before about
    the blood work of a man who took the Pfizer vaccine (two doses). It showed an auto-immune response profile of elevated
    granulocytes and depressed immune lymphocytes. High granulocytes manifest when there is substantial tissue damage.

    This woman was experiencing ongoing damage induced by the vaccine and excessive granulcyte counts as well as C-reactive
    protein numbers. This is consistent with both the inflammation and the necrosis of her brain tissue due to microvascular blockage.

    The woman in question was given the run around by her doctors since they would not admit to the vaccine had anything to do
    with her condition. We now live in a climate of fear where doctors are no longer giving proper treatment because the precious
    magic vaccine narrative must be maintained at all costs. This is not just about some tennis player not getting allowed to
    participate in a tournament. This is about life and death.

    The video highlights some real medical science:

    1) The immune system reacts to infections (bacterial and viral) at interfaces. This includes the lungs, skin, and gastrointestinal
    tract. Bacteria and viruses do not infect people volumetrically through their bodies. If they do spread, then that is a worst
    case scenario. Injecting spike proteins through the whole body by infecting its cells (via mRNA delivered either by nanoparticles
    or modified adenovirus vectors) is not a safe approach. Myocarditis is the result of inflammation of the heart which is induced
    by the spike proteins triggering an immune response. The immune response should be in the lungs or upper respiratory tract.

    2) Covid is a serious disease for those who have high baseline inflammation. This is seen in HbA1c which indicates insulin
    resistance. Insulin resistance is a feature of not just high carb and sugar consumption. It manifests in lupus and other
    diseases. High insulin maintains inflammation. It also skews the function of the immune system.

    https://doi.org/10.1155/2019/3940739



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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:14 pm

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34374713/



    Importance: The COVID-19 pandemic saw one of the fastest developments of vaccines in an effort to combat an out-of-control pandemic. The 2 most common COVID-19 vaccine platforms currently in use, messenger RNA (mRNA) and adenovirus vector, were developed on the basis of previous research in use of this technology. Postauthorization surveillance of COVID-19 vaccines has identified safety signals, including unusual cases of thrombocytopenia with thrombosis reported in recipients of adenoviral vector vaccines. One of the devastating manifestations of this syndrome, termed vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT), is cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST). This review summarizes the current evidence and indications regarding biology, clinical characteristics, and pharmacological management of VITT with CVST.

    Observations: VITT appears to be similar to heparin-induced thrombocytopenia (HIT), with both disorders associated with thrombocytopenia, thrombosis, and presence of autoantibodies to platelet factor 4 (PF4). Unlike VITT, HIT is triggered by recent exposure to heparin. Owing to similarities between these 2 conditions and lack of high-quality evidence, interim recommendations suggest avoiding heparin and heparin analogues in patients with VITT. Based on initial reports, female sex and age younger than 60 years were identified as possible risk factors for VITT. Treatment consists of therapeutic anticoagulation with nonheparin anticoagulants and prevention of formation of autoantibody-PF4 complexes, the latter being achieved by administration of high-dose intravenous immunoglobin (IVIG). Steroids, which can theoretically inhibit the production of new antibodies, have been used in combination with IVIG. In severe cases, plasma exchange should be used for clearing autoantibodies. Monoclonal antibodies, such as rituximab and eculizumab, can be considered when other therapies fail. Routine platelet transfusions, aspirin, and warfarin should be avoided because of the possibility of worsening thrombosis and magnifying bleeding risk.

    Conclusions and relevance: Adverse events like VITT, while uncommon, have been described despite vaccination remaining the most essential component in the fight against the COVID-19 pandemic. While it seems logical to consider the use of types of vaccines (eg, mRNA-based administration) in individuals at high risk, treatment should consist of therapeutic anticoagulation mostly with nonheparin products and IVIG.

    The excuse of "it is rare" is total criminal excrement. Humanity is not an amorphous blob. It is a collection of individuals
    with rights. The "small number" (over 0.47% in Australia) have a right to health and safety not being destroyed by some
    regime mandated vaxxing program.


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