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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:31 am

    kvs wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    kvs wrote:   The clowns who engineered covid-19
    did not push the virus into another minimum.   That is good, but it has not stopped the abuse of power.

    But they have spectacularly succeeded in injecting a lot of mRNA plus spike proteins into people with as yet to be fully understood effects.

    Pfizer is openly planning on providing 4 billion doses per year into the indefinite future.   We have commercials in Ireland and elsewhere that
    project the covid control regime (including booster shots) into the future (10+ years from now).  

    I thought the UK had made the sane choice with AstraZeneca vaccination, but it has gone off the rails with mRNA (Pfizer and Moderna)
    booster shots.   You are supposed to take four of these every year (based off the CDC nonsense about the immune system forgetting
    the antibodies in 90 days).   Pfizer is clearly able to put one billion people on this demonic program.


    the whole vaccination project is the cause for one major devide in society.

    You got the people that are vaccinated, and see the unvaccinated as individuals that are no longer part in society.
    I mean, take Macron with his opinion on "making unvaccinated miserable".

    You got the tin-foil hat people that think our goverments are full of lizard people, running an satanic child sacrifice scheme.

    And you got people like me...i guess.

    *calls local doctor* "no you can not decide what vaccine you take*
    *calls inoculation hotline* "no, if you manage to get sputnik, the government will not recognise that*
    *calls hospital* "yes, there are side effects,....but it outweighs the risks"

    I really do not judge anyone.
    You wanted to get a jab of Astrazeneca or pfizer?. i do not care.
    it was your own personal choice.

    But why should i not get treated with the same courtesy?.
    that i get to decide how to deal with it?.

    an recent example, in my country's media an protein-based vaccine got approved.
    NovaMax, it follows the conventional vaccine method like Sputnik.

    I called the vaccination national hotline again to get some information, then i get chewed out again.

    "well, we can not tell you witch one you will get, and you are being an health risk to others for not vaccinating"
    Bitch, please.
    If i need an lecture ill just go ask my own mother how she feels about my poor life choices.....

    Perhaps you want to stay on the line tough?. and hear all my health complains about my time in the Millitary!?!.

    either way.....

    By what i hear, Omnicron is acting like an mild flu.
    Yes, its more contagious.
    But it infects the cells in the upper respiratory airway.
    And not the lower airway cells containing the small bladders that exchange CO2 from the blood with fresh oxygen.
    What is the cause for people prematurely seeing the "game over" screen.

    this guy is an trained medical proffesional that dessiminates medical data. he can explain it way better than i ever could:
    https://www.youtube.com/c/Campbellteaching/videos

    All Pandemics have lasted for about a year to three-four maximum.
    We need a way so we can continue living without the devision of vaxxed vs unvaxxed.

    Pharmaceutical giants?. of course they want to sell and keep the pandemic going.
    so as a small joke to relieve the seriousness...how far are you before yelling Bingo?.

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    Post  lancelot Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:21 am

    All Pandemics have lasted for about a year to three-four maximum.

    Bullshit. Try reading about the Antonine Plague. It lasted from 165 to 180 AD. The Plague of Justinian lasted from 541 to 750 AD.
    The Black Death lasted from 1331 to 1353.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:12 am

    lancelot wrote:
    All Pandemics have lasted for about a year to three-four maximum.

    Bullshit. Try reading about the Antonine Plague. It lasted from 165 to 180 AD. The Plague of Justinian lasted from 541 to 750 AD.
    The Black Death lasted from 1331 to 1353.

    you are correct.
    by these historical events, my post was incorrect.

    I intended to mention the more modern age, but i did not elaborate on that.
    My failure Wink

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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:01 am

    lancelot wrote:
    All Pandemics have lasted for about a year to three-four maximum.

    Bullshit. Try reading about the Antonine Plague. It lasted from 165 to 180 AD. The Plague of Justinian lasted from 541 to 750 AD.
    The Black Death lasted from 1331 to 1353.

    Those were sustained by the filthy conditions and compromised immune systems of the masses during those times. In
    modern society the original observation is valid. Another detail is that today we have much higher population density
    and movement of people over vast distances so the progression of disease is faster. Imagine some Delta strain
    spreading around the world in the 1300s. Not going to happen. It would have stayed in the region it emerged and
    would have mutated to a milder variant over some timescale. After a few centuries it would possibly migrate to
    continental scales.



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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:10 am



    So 8 months instead of 55 years for FDA to release Pfizer's safety data.   Still too long.  They should be given two weeks.

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    Post  Mir Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:36 am

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    An Australian judge has ordered the release of world number one Novak Djokovic from the Gestapo detention ghetto in Melbourne. Hope he wins.

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    Post  Nemo Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:02 pm

    There I went through the virus again. I only found out because, before traveling, I had to go for a PCR and it came back positive. No symptoms whatsoever except maybe my slightly deeper voice.

    Many positive cases, at this moment in the company, the workforce is less than 50% operational. Of all the cases I know, I am the only one not vaccinated and also the only asymptomatic, maybe because I've been through this before and the body knows how to deal with the "animal".

    People I know are reporting sore throats, headaches and muscle aches as well as general malaise. The way I see it spreading, few diseases have this ability to infect so many people so quickly. Not even in the measles outbreaks when I was a kid, caught so many people like that at the same time. Also strangely, the people I know who already have the 3rd dose of the vaccine are the ones who are reporting stronger symptoms, even so comparable to a heavier cold or a mild flu, nothing too much worrying and in reality most would work under normal conditions if it weren't for Covid rules.


    I had to stay 7 days in isolation and the only good thing about it is that during the next 6 months no one will bother me because of the vaccination certificate as I have the recovery certificate. It was irritating at every airport to have to take an indoctrination lesson about being vaccinated and bla bla bla because it could be a risk to others and bullshit.....


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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:20 pm

    Your empirical observations are highly relevant. Dosing with a vaccine on a regular basis is criminal. It is basically a type of
    anti-allergy treatment plan where one overloads the immune system to a specific antigen and "turns it off". In the case of
    the current booster insanity it is not quite this intense but it still weakens the immune system response to covid. Another
    vaccine overuse pathology is excessive focus on the spike antigen. The immune system does not have over a dozen antibody
    types for distinct virus antigens and reflexes to the spike antibody. So someone who recovered from covid already and is not
    vaxxed is in a better position to respond to new strains since there is less chance that virus mutations make ineffective all of
    the antibodies developed from older strains. These two general aspects are not mutually exclusive.

    Never take any booster. The immune system remembers much longer than 8 months. If immune system memory was really
    that short, then every flu strain would be like a novel infection. The three month numbers spread by the CDC, whoring for
    Pfizer, are simply a lie. There is a good reason why we do not really forget the flu and now covid. The virus is not 100%
    eliminated from the system and is "dormant".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus_latency

    The wiki does not have enough detail. The active replication phase is not always the same with the same symptoms. Since
    the immune system has developed antibodies, it can suppress any reactivation effectively. It would require the virus dormancy
    to be multiple years for the immune system to "forget" enough but this is not going to happen. If the virus evolved latency as
    a survival trick, the immune system has evolved as well to be able to counteract this trick. It is an evolutionary equilibrium.
    The immune system does not eliminate viruses and bacteria to the 100% level, it eliminates the disease symptoms and associated
    damage to a sufficient degree.
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    Post  auslander Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:43 pm

    So here's me being pretty much absent from forum for a while. Here's why and also it'll give you a slight clue as to how things are done here in Sevastopol.

    Covid. The original Sputnik vaccine has proved quite successful in holding back the plague. Not perfect, but pretty good. Problem was, and is, I'm too old to get the vaccine and VCO refused to get it if I couldn't get it so we patiently waited for Sputnik Light to be available.

    That worked real well. Because of another health problem my happy little butt was in Hospital #4 and Oncology Hospital, #4 five minutes from the digs, Oncology on south side IOW a pain in the nether regions to get to. With several CAT scans, blood tests, heart tests and one minor operation to remove a little something lodged in my shoulder we were in both facilities often and I got the first chemo blasts in late September. Prognosis looked pretty good from the chemo. However, neither Hospital was particularly concerned with mask regime and distancing and it is now patently obvious that both facilities were prominent in spreading the plague all over this village. And of course where I went VCO went, my Russian is just enough to confuse the road cops on the rare occasion we are stopped, read twice in 8 years, therefore whenever I needed to go in for tests and/or treatments she was by my side.

    Morning of 09 October VCO was suddenly quite ill, I mean really ill. Called the local mobile Doktors, they arrived in 10 minutes, took one look at my lass, tossed her in to the ambulance and took her to Hospital #1 in City Center, the special quarantine, isolation and treatment facility. She called me about an hour after she arrived at #1 and said she'd be in there for minimum two weeks, she had covid and pneumonia, the second disease quite often a tag along with the virus and actually kills more than the virus. She advised I call the nanny for the children and arrange for her to come to the house and live there while we were in Hospital, her clearly saying since she had both diseases so did I. With six children to take care of plus two 'kat things' all had to have daily care and feeding. I called the nanny, she was reluctant to come to the digs because of the plague all over Sevastopol and her flat was about as far as one can get from us in this village ergo she had to come by publik bus and ferry. I simply offered enough money for her to flutter on over to the compound, she arrived on the tenth.

    Morning of 10 October I knew I had it but I waited until around noon to call Mobile Doktors. They arrived, took about five seconds to check me, tossed me on a gurney and shoveled me in to ambulance. Doktor in ambulance called Hospital to tell them I was on the way, Hospital said 'get your ass moving, his wife is dying'. Ambulance took off with lights flashing and klaxon screaming, we turned off Ulitsiya Nekrasova on to the main drag on northside, Ulitsiya Bogdanova, and ambulance was joined by two police cars, one in front and one behind, all three vehicles with lights going and noise makers howling. Locals probably thought VVP and Lavrov were on the way to Hospital.

    Got to Hospital #1, ambulance was met by four strong young men, said men yanked out the gurney, picked it up and at a dead run took my sorry ass in to Hospital. Soon as we hit the doors a massive wheel chair was produced, with a Doktor. Doktor spoke enough English that combined with my meager Russian he made certain I knew that VCO was in very bad shape. Two of the 'strong young men' picked up the wheelchair and literally ran down the halls with Doktor. Took me in to VCO's treatment room, Doktor treating her asked 'Is this him?' and when answered in the affirmative told me to get over to her and talk to her. The two men stood me up and helped me over to my lass (by that time I was so ill I could not stand or walk). I looked at her and my first thought was 'I'm too late, she's gone.' but I took her hand anyway even though the machine she was hooked up to was monotone and flat lined. Doktor told me later that he'd never seen the like, he clearly stated that he thought she was dead, too, but when I took her hand he could see the life force coming back to her. After a couple minutes she kinda half opened her eyes, gave a tiny smile and grumped a little: "What took you so long? Thought I would die waiting for you!" Neither I nor the sawbones told her how close she was to death until several days later when she was much better.

    Covid Treatment at Hospital #1.

    Facility is locked down tight, only entrance without a kazzilion stamped and approved documents is the ER entrance and if you come to ER entrance you better be in a meat wagon. Armed guards were everywhere including ER, no one allowed anywhere on Hospital grounds, period, let alone actually in Hospital without documents and permissions. Actual Hospital Staff is all women from head Doktor down to the scullery maids and toilet cleaners.

    Treatment protocol is 16 days and intensive. By law, once in you can't leave until Hospital completes the protocol and gives permission to leave, one can't even open a door for a breath of fresh air, it ain't allowed. Breakfast, lunch and dinner are delivered to each inmate by name on the plastic box containing the food. Food sucked shit through a straw and VCO and I fixed that little problem the day we were discharged. Food is way better now, different catering company and actually delivered warm since we exited the facility and someone is in pretrial detention to this day.

    Every morning at 05:00 or so Godzilla's Bride stomped in to each room (4 men or 4 women in each room) and gave everyone an under the skin injection right next to the belly button plus whatever other injections needed for each inmate, other injections administered to the butt. Same spot on the belly for 16 days is loads of fun by the fifth day. Four times a day medicines were brought and administered to each inmate and since I have another problem besides covid and pneumonia I was treated three times a day with a nifty little machine that gives you special lung and heart meds as you breathe from it along with other meds for that problem.

    Doktors come in minimum twice a day and do a pretty thorough job of examining each inmate, asking the proper questions and making succinct notes on each chart. Everyone complained about the food, sometimes one didn't even know what it was and many of the inmates had a special diet. I didn't have special food but still, I've never seen light yellow bread (dry as old bones, too) or green/black 'borscht'. Good thing is we can have food brought in and by the second day VCO was well enough to be up and about. She called couple Navy lads we know and they every couple days brought us dinner from Rusburger, fully loaded burger and fries. Food and other goodies are delivered to the guards, guards check to make sure contents of the parcel pass muster and then guards bring the goodies in and hand it personally to the inmate. Worked for us but we still fixed the food problem the moment we were discharged.

    Medical Sisters were all very good as was the chief Doktor, very polite (with the glaring exception of Godzilla's Bride who seemed to take special joy in the blunt needle injections from her) and helpful. Since VCO was moved to a girl's room across the hall from mine on the third day, she spent a lot of time with me. Sisters even brought in a chair for her to sit in while we talked and read to each other. She bounced back quickly from her initial severe reaction to virus and pneumonia and by the fifth day was her usual smiling self and soon busied herself with helping some of the more frail women on our floor. Boredom is a big problem in such a Hospital, no TV, no radio, nothing. We men could cope with it better than the women so she ended up reading a lot to the older women, too.

    Hospital had been completely overhauled in summer of '19 and I mean completely, ground up. I well remember what that hospital looked like back in orc times and it weren't pretty (we had an elderly neighbor who was there for treatment), I've seen better in the wilds of Afrika and SA. Everything is now clean as a whistle, straight as an arrow and all machines of any kind are Siemens, new and state of the art.

    All this being said, we all were locked up for minimum two weeks and some longer. Cell phones were allowed but no other devices. There was a microwave near the floor main desk but not available to us inmates. Two weeks and more of staring at the walls or wistfully gazing out the window is rarely passed off as fun, but the cure in the end was worth the hassle. And none of us died. Cost? Zero. All health care here is Government paid as long as you signed up for Government Insurance which we did while the dust was still settling from Russian Spring and for emergencies like this Covid Plague all is paid anyway. Hospital takes care of all that paperwork so we inmates didn't see a damned thing but the 'sign here to say you were here' one page form they bring around the moment you are lucid enough to understand what you are signing.

    In the end VCO and I were discharged on the same day. Our discharge documents clearly state we are covid free 'forever' so we won't need those silly 'qr' codes, we just carry copies of our discharges with us. However. I know many of you don't want the vaccine but don't be foolish. It took us two months to get our sense of taste back and one month for the sense of smell and over two months to get a modicum of energy back. I almost lost my wife to this disease and pneumonia and I can assure you that if I knew how bad this crap is I'd have ignored the 'you're too old for Sputnik' and gotten it one way or the other for both of us and I know I could have with no problems. I don't know what kinds of treatments many of you in other countries would get but I know from just reading the news most of you would get nowhere near the level of treatment VCO and I got. Don't be foolish, if you can get Sputnik, get it!

    As an aside, our nanny did not come down with the virus but sadly our yellow girl, Ella, died while we were in Hospital. She was not old, only 9, and the picture of health and vigor. She just didn't wake up one morning (unbeknownst to me) and VCO quietly arranged for our usual Navy burial detail to take Ella up in the hills overlooking Inkerman and put her to rest with her mother, father and little Misha, her son who died so young.

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    Post  franco Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:07 pm

    Glad to hear that you are getting well and sorry for your loss. I'm just getting a negative test result and starting to recover from my Covid experience. Coughed so much and hard that my larynx is effected... good thing that I don't need it on this site Smile I had 2 vaccine shots and it appears to have helped in limiting the severity but it still isn't something that one could remotely consider pleasant. Good luck with the other too, my maternal grandmother used to say that getting old was hard work.

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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:18 pm

    I would take the Sputnik V vaccine but not AZ, Janssen and the crap from Pfizer and Moderna. The Chinese classic style vaccine
    is the best choice. Turning cells into spike protein factories is not justified for any reason.

    Fasting during chemotherapy sessions helps to mitigate the symptoms and also helps fight the cancer. Do 5-7 day fasts. Do not
    consume any sugar or carbs. Just water with some salt and electrolyte and mineral supplements. The hospital food is poison because
    it is designed by people who drink the western nutritional koolaid that you need carbohydrates and that saturated animal fats are
    bad for you. In fact, those "heart healthy" vegetable oils are literal cancer. Do not consume them at all costs.

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    Post  Mir Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:18 pm

    @Auslander

    Well I'm glad you guys made it. I gather you and your better halve are not that young anymore and that is perhaps why she suffered badly with the pneumonia. Pneumonia is extremely dangerous for the elderly. Hospitals are equally dangerous as they are supposed to be highly hygienic but sometimes you get a virus that survives that place and it mutates into something really nasty. I lost a very good friend many years ago when such a virus cut his life short within a week. He was a doctor that worked in ICU where he saved many lives, but it took his.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:38 pm

    @ Auslander, sorry to hear about your loss and your battle with this virus.
    I hope you and your fammily recover fully, sounded like an very bad time.

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    Post  Firebird Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:44 pm

    auslander wrote:So here's me being pretty much absent from forum for a while. Here's why and also it'll give you a slight clue as to how things are done here in Sevastopol.



    Hi Auslander.
    So sorry to hear of your situation and the passing of Ella.
    Ella was your daughter?

    The whole Covid situation is very confusing. I still don't think we are getting the full story.
    Would you say your susceptibility was caused by your oncological treatment and the Sputnik light booster?
    Why do you think the others were affected so badly by it all?

    I noticed Covid figures seem to have been high in Russia since late last AUtumn, relative to say Western Europe.
    Britain had about 130k deathss "from any cause within 28 days of a positive test" at around last June. But only 15k or so have been added to that category since. It is not due to the Pfizer vax because, 80 or 80% of Covid related hospitalisations or deaths have been fully vaxxed. Norman Fenton is a very good Youtube analyst of this. He is very unbiased.
    My view is that "herd immunity" seems to be occurring in W Europe far before E Eur.

    Do you think damp conditions may have been a contributing factor to the pneumonia? I've noticed it with apartment blocks in some parts of Russia. I remember a young and healthy Hollywood actress Britney Murphy and her husband dying from mold on the ceiling of their shower.

    I know a Russian family. And the younger ones were barely affected by Covid. The father drank a fair bit and had q nasty symptoms. The mother was only a couple of yrs younger, but looked after herself and was far less affected. THis was 12 months ago.

    The other thing I wonder is whether certain groups have been affected more by whats attributed as "Covid". For instance in Iran, maybe ethnically Russian people etc. This would support the claim of some sort of biowarfare meddling and/or experiementation.

    Perhaps Mir is near the truth with hospitals sadly being breeding grounds for disease.

    I'm sure SPutnik and Sinovac etc have been produced without any shady agenda. Completely unlike Pfizer etc and all the mRNA stuff.

    Pfizer fills me with complete horror and anger. It hospitalised my mother, and gave my brother chronic ME like symptoms.
    We all had "Covid" this CHristmas. I barely had any symptoms at all. My brother and mother were v much bedridden for nearly 7 days. I am completely unvaxxed, and slightly older than my brother.

    All in all, I think there are still questions unaswnered about the whole Covid affair.
    For all we know I wonder if a number of different viruses have been circulated since late 2019. ANd a fair number of experimental "flu jabs" muddying the waters further.

    Its clear that the Fauci/Gates/Milken gang have been hell bent on some sort of massive mRNA experimentation since before 2018. This can be seen on Rumble.com actually coming from their dirty mouths.

    Anyway, sorry to hear of Ella's passing once more.
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    Post  auslander Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:49 pm

    Mir wrote:@Auslander

    Well I'm glad you guys made it. I gather you and your better halve are not that young anymore and that is perhaps why she suffered badly with the pneumonia. Pneumonia is extremely dangerous for the elderly. Hospitals are equally dangerous as they are supposed to be highly hygienic but sometimes you get a virus that survives that place and it mutates into something really nasty. I lost a very good friend many years ago when such a virus cut his life short within a week. He was a doctor that worked in ICU where he saved many lives, but it took his.

    I'm not young, 76 later this year. She's 23 (I think) years younger but she looks way younger than she is. She actually got carded last summer when she wanted to buy some wine for us.

    Last year was the year from hell. Serious illness found for me, then the covid/pneumonia mess for both of us, then Ella passing away. We're pretty hopeful this year will be a tad better!

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    Post  Firebird Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:01 pm

    auslander wrote:
    Mir wrote:@Auslander

    Well I'm glad you guys made it. I gather you and your better halve are not that young anymore and that is perhaps why she suffered badly with the pneumonia. Pneumonia is extremely dangerous for the elderly. Hospitals are equally dangerous as they are supposed to be highly hygienic but sometimes you get a virus that survives that place and it mutates into something really nasty. I lost a very good friend many years ago when such a virus cut his life short within a week. He was a doctor that worked in ICU where he saved many lives, but it took his.

    I'm not young, 76 later this year. She's 23 (I think) years younger but she looks way younger than she is. She actually got carded last summer when she wanted to buy some wine for us.

    Last year was the year from hell. Serious illness found for me, then the covid/pneumonia mess for both of us, then Ella passing away. We're pretty hopeful this year will be a tad better!

    I thought you were mid/late 40s or so. And I thought your mrs was early 30s, I remember her pic on here with the gun! : D
    I hope 2022 is far better for you both.

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    Post  auslander Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:16 pm

    Firebird wrote:
    auslander wrote:So here's me being pretty much absent from forum for a while. Here's why and also it'll give you a slight clue as to how things are done here in Sevastopol.



    Hi Auslander.
    So sorry to hear of your situation and the passing of Ella.
    Ella was your daughter?
    The whole Covid situation is very confusing. I still don't think we are getting the full story.
    Would you say your susceptibility was caused by your oncological treatment and the Sputnik light booster?
    Why do you think the others were affected so badly by it all?
    I noticed Covid figures seem to have been high in Russia since late last AUtumn, relative to say Western Europe.
    Britain had about 130k deathss "from any cause within 28 days of a positive test" at around last June. But only 15k or so have been added to that category since. It is not due to the Pfizer vax because, 80 or 80% of Covid related hospitalisations or deaths have been fully vaxxed. Norman Fenton is a very good Youtube analyst of this. He is very unbiased.
    My view is that "herd immunity" seems to be occurring in W Europe far before E Eur.
    Do you think damp conditions may have been a contributing factor to the pneumonia? I've noticed it with apartment blocks in some parts of Russia. I remember a young and healthy Hollywood actress Britney Murphy and her husband dying from mold on the ceiling of their shower.
    I know a Russian family. And the younger ones were barely affected by Covid. The father drank a fair bit and had q nasty symptoms. The mother was only a couple of yrs younger, but looked after herself and was far less affected. THis was 12 months ago.
    The other thing I wonder is whether certain groups have been affected more by whats attributed as "Covid". For instance in Iran, maybe ethnically Russian people etc. This would support the claim of some sort of biowarfare meddling and/or experiementation.
    Perhaps Mir is near the truth with hospitals sadly being breeding grounds for disease.
    I'm sure SPutnik and Sinovac etc have been produced without any shady agenda. Completely unlike Pfizer etc and all the mRNA stuff.
    Pfizer fills me with complete horror and anger. It hospitalised my mother, and gave my brother chronic ME like symptoms.
    We all had "Covid" this CHristmas. I barely had any symptoms at all. My brother and mother were v much bedridden for nearly 7 days. I am completely unvaxxed, and slightly older than my brother.
    All in all, I think there are still questions unaswnered about the whole Covid affair.
    For all we know I wonder if a number of different viruses have been circulated since late 2019. ANd a fair number of experimental "flu jabs" muddying the waters further.
    Its clear that the Fauci/Gates/Milken gang have been hell bent on some sort of massive mRNA experimentation since before 2018. This can be seen on Rumble.com actually coming from their dirty mouths.
    Anyway, sorry to hear of Ella's passing once more.

    We have now 5 'children', Ruslan, 18, Sophia and Ye'katarina, both 13, Aleksandr, 12, and Krist'lyannah at 9 months. All are collies but to us they are our children. Ella was young, strong and vigorous but we don't know what killed her, she was already in her grave by the time we got home.

    Neither my wife nor I got Sputnik but I don't know what meds we got in Hospital #1 to kill the virus. VCO does know in that she has the copy of documents.

    Anyone who died of 'mold in the shower ceiling' is guilty of poor domestic hygiene and who knows if it was actually the mold that did them in, I would tend to doubt it. Neither of them looked up?

    We live in a house but even when we had the flat, all was spotlessly clean and dry. Sevastopol has a weird climate, sometimes almost subtropical, sometimes not so, a bit more dry and cool even though we live right on the Black Sea. We'll never know where we actually got the virus and pneumonia often comes with the virus but is not related to the virus.

    Covid is a virulent virus, nothing more and nothing less.

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    Post  Firebird Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:30 pm

    auslander wrote:
    Firebird wrote:
    auslander wrote:So here's me being pretty much absent from forum for a while. Here's why and also it'll give you a slight clue as to how things are done here in Sevastopol.



    Hi Auslander.
    So sorry to hear of your situation and the passing of Ella.
    Ella was your daughter?
    The whole Covid situation is very confusing. I still don't think we are getting the full story.
    Would you say your susceptibility was caused by your oncological treatment and the Sputnik light booster?
    Why do you think the others were affected so badly by it all?
    I noticed Covid figures seem to have been high in Russia since late last AUtumn, relative to say Western Europe.
    Britain had about 130k deathss "from any cause within 28 days of a positive test" at around last June. But only 15k or so have been added to that category since. It is not due to the Pfizer vax because, 80 or 80% of Covid related hospitalisations or deaths have been fully vaxxed. Norman Fenton is a very good Youtube analyst of this. He is very unbiased.
    My view is that "herd immunity" seems to be occurring in W Europe far before E Eur.
    Do you think damp conditions may have been a contributing factor to the pneumonia? I've noticed it with apartment blocks in some parts of Russia. I remember a young and healthy Hollywood actress Britney Murphy and her husband dying from mold on the ceiling of their shower.
    I know a Russian family. And the younger ones were barely affected by Covid. The father drank a fair bit and had q nasty symptoms. The mother was only a couple of yrs younger, but looked after herself and was far less affected. THis was 12 months ago.
    The other thing I wonder is whether certain groups have been affected more by whats attributed as "Covid". For instance in Iran, maybe ethnically Russian people etc. This would support the claim of some sort of biowarfare meddling and/or experiementation.
    Perhaps Mir is near the truth with hospitals sadly being breeding grounds for disease.
    I'm sure SPutnik and Sinovac etc have been produced without any shady agenda. Completely unlike Pfizer etc and all the mRNA stuff.
    Pfizer fills me with complete horror and anger. It hospitalised my mother, and gave my brother chronic ME like symptoms.
    We all had "Covid" this CHristmas. I barely had any symptoms at all. My brother and mother were v much bedridden for nearly 7 days. I am completely unvaxxed, and slightly older than my brother.
    All in all, I think there are still questions unaswnered about the whole Covid affair.
    For all we know I wonder if a number of different viruses have been circulated since late 2019. ANd a fair number of experimental "flu jabs" muddying the waters further.
    Its clear that the Fauci/Gates/Milken gang have been hell bent on some sort of massive mRNA experimentation since before 2018. This can be seen on Rumble.com actually coming from their dirty mouths.
    Anyway, sorry to hear of Ella's passing once more.

    We have now 5 'children', Ruslan, 18, Sophia and Ye'katarina, both 13, Aleksandr, 12, and Krist'lyannah at 9 months. All are collies but to us they are our children. Ella was young, strong and vigorous but we don't know what killed her, she was already in her grave by the time we got home.

    Neither my wife nor I got Sputnik but I don't know what meds we got in Hospital #1 to kill the virus. VCO does know in that she has the copy of documents.

    Anyone who died of 'mold in the shower ceiling' is guilty of poor domestic hygiene and who knows if it was actually the mold that did them in, I would tend to doubt it. Neither of them looked up?

    We live in a house but even when we had the flat, all was spotlessly clean and dry. Sevastopol has a weird climate, sometimes almost subtropical, sometimes not so, a bit more dry and cool even though we live right on the Black Sea. We'll never know where we actually got the virus and pneumonia often comes with the virus but is not related to the virus.

    Covid is a virulent virus, nothing more and nothing less.  

    Sounds quite a handful all those collies! : D
    Very clever dogs.. I know many say they are the cleverest. : D

    Would you have been offered the other Russian vaccines? Aren't there about 6?(including lights).

    The Brittany Murphy case, as I recall, the mold effect was only found a couple of months later. As I understand it wasn't some dirty green lumps, but something hard to see. As she was a semi A list celebrity, I'd assume she had cleaners to keep the place clean.

    I remember where I lived, there was a good 4star hotel. But the aircon in the building killed some people with Legionaires Disease. I think sometimes pneumonia can result in apartment blocks with certain systems built in. But.. all irrevelant given that you live in a house.

    My father was a similar age to you when he got "walking pneumonia". He had lots of energy but would ignore any problems.
    So I think for someone 75.. you do have a risk of it. But its not so clear why your mrs would have it so bad. Who knows?! At least you are both recovered now.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:42 pm

    Did wonder where you had gone. Brilliant that both of you got through it. Sad about Ella but she had a reasonable length of life. Your cancer was clearly a co-morbidity, I assume that your wife might have had one too given the way it hit her.

    I had it early December but it was mild and all gone bar some phlegm. I suppose when I leave this mortal toil it will be without a ripple as we are in the ether here.

    We don't get certificates here saying we have had it, as far as our system is concerned its about to be 3 jabs or you have no protection. Am now waiting to see if, as projected, having Delta as I did gives me no protection from Omicron.

    The other good news for you I suppose is that there has been enough sabre rattling to stop the Orcs from doing anything stupid. Are yours still up there?

    Very good you are back and hopefully on parade again this year.

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    Post  auslander Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:11 pm

    Firebird wrote:Sounds quite a handful all those collies! : D
    Very clever dogs.. I know many say they are the cleverest. : D
    Would you have been offered the other Russian vaccines? Aren't there about 6?(including lights).
    The Brittany Murphy case, as I recall, the mold effect was only found a couple of months later. As I understand it wasn't some dirty green lumps, but something hard to see. As she was a semi A list celebrity, I'd assume she had cleaners to keep the place clean.
    I remember where I lived, there was a good 4star hotel. But the aircon in the building killed some people with Legionaires Disease. I think sometimes pneumonia can result in apartment blocks with certain systems built in. But.. all irrevelant given that you live in a house.
    My father was a similar age to you when he got "walking pneumonia". He had lots of energy but would ignore any problems.
    So I think for someone 75.. you do have a risk of it. But its not so clear why your mrs would have it so bad. Who knows?! At least you are both recovered now.

    Collies are sometimes too clever. Our youngest, Krist'lyannah, learned very quickly how to open the special latch on the lawn fence, lifting that one important piece with her nose whilst twisted like a pretzel and hanging over the gate itself.

    We don't raise the little divan pillows so popular today, we raise 'old style' collies, big and strong. Aleksandr is 2.5 m tip of nose to tip of tail and he's trained professionally to guard and if needs be fight. Sophia, while no longer young, is well above standard height for shows. No one here had a measuring device so she was never put out of a show. Ella was taller and longer than Sophia.

    I have also been diagnosed last summer with lung cancer, before the covid mess. It is inoperable, ergo I know roughly when the end will be albeit not too soon. It is what it is.

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    Post  auslander Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:47 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Did wonder where you had gone. Brilliant that both of you got through it. Sad about Ella but she had a reasonable length of life. Your cancer was clearly a co-morbidity, I assume that your wife might have had one too given the way it hit her.
    I had it early December but it was mild and all gone bar some phlegm. I suppose when I leave this mortal toil it will be without a ripple as we are in the ether here.
    We don't get certificates here saying we have had it, as far as our system is concerned its about to be 3 jabs or you have no protection. Am now waiting to see if, as projected, having Delta as I did gives me no protection from Omicron.
    The other good news for you I suppose is that there has been enough sabre rattling to stop the Orcs from doing anything stupid. Are yours still up there?
    Very good you are back and hopefully on parade again this year.

    Whatever they want, two jabs, five jabs, get 'em. Covid ain't pleasant and being hospitalized for the plague is even less pleasant. Glad to hear your session with the plague was not 'too bad'...but I know any session with that mess ain't very pleasurable.

    VCO, thank Him, does not have cancer, they've tested her every way from Sunday including two CAT scans to make sure. I smoked for over 60 years, she smokes one or at most two a month, only on those 'girl's days' and at her age we're a bit surprised she still has them. Won't be long, though, before they are history.

    Doktors don't know why the virus hit her so hard, their general consensus of opinion it was just 'one of those things'. She wasn't the only one by far who was the picture of health and got knocked on her little round bottom by the virus. We have the certs because we were both in Hospital #1 and both went through the full protocol. Those who were not in #1 but had the virus don't get the certificate like we have, the one they get is a bit 'conditional'.

    Yes, ours are still up there, all now sport the 'wound badge' amongst other awards and medals. It would be nice to have them back here for the parade, I'll be in this year's for sure. I'd like nothing better than to have them with us and we can count medals as we stand to at the top of Ulitsiya Lenina before Parade. I'm starting on the second row on the left but don't know what the regs will be for the right side this year. If they loosen up a little I've got a couple nifty goodies for the right side, if they don't I'll just wear the St. George with the Sevastopol Shield to hold the ribbon in place.

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