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    Post  Vann7 Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:09 am

    kvs wrote:To think that they want to foist mRNA booster shots in perpetuity on the population (Canada, USA, etc.)

    Nuremberg level crime for sure.



    and that's why i said in the religion christianity forum..


    The biggest problem the world face ,is not the endless wars , is not terrorism , is not even pandemics or even natural earth disasters, poverty or crime.  The biggest problem humanity face , is human ignorance

    Human ignorance can wipe entire continents , when they deposit their blind trust in their..

    1)top government institutions.
    2)to scientist institutions
    3)top media corporations
    4)top internnational bodies of health and science.
    5)top religions institutions..

    And why you can't blindly trust in any (FDA ,WADA ,EMA ,WHO ,CDC ,UN) ,or any 2-3 or more letters world institutions ,man create ? or any top governments or top scientist or top world religions

    Because all those major man created institutions in the world ,created to be authorities of the rules , that humanity will follow ,are the very first things ,that top corrupt superbillionaires in the world seek bribe ,to infiltrate , and manipulate.
    and so if those top institutions controlled by powerful and corrupt people ,then the entire world can be influenced or even fully controlled.  And so all world societies need to be re-educated , education system dramatically changed , all scientist and doctors re-trained , to never ever blindly trust ,what the top institutions claims or say.. and so people need to triple verify everything ,specially things that are extremely important for their lives , like their health and security ,and money and from independent sources.. not from pfizer and moderna hired people , to investigate themselves, and institutions bribed and hired to approve themselves.

    and freedom of expression essential for society , existence and society truedevelopment.
    Censorship of information , censorship of alternative media  banning of opposing views ,is what allows evil to hold power and controls entire nations ,including their politicians ,doctors and scientist.


    there is a pyramid of blind trust.. world health organization dictates everyone under them what to believe, then people under it follows, doctors then follows their bosses , and their bosses follows their government authority or so called " highly respected health magazines" or universities studies
    that corrupt people influence.

    We don't need more blind followers in this world , what we need is leaders.. independent thinkers ,that trust no one and verify important questions , from different and alternative points of views.. the more the better , the wider is your knowledge ,the better is your understanding.

    the only way Tyranny can rule in the world , is when ignorance not countered with truth.

    for nothing was said..

    Knowledge is power and the truth will set you free.  right and correct information allows society to be better prepared to take the best decisions possible for their lives.  Ignorance kills millions and verified truth save lives  .

    Russia could had stopped this pandemic ,if it wasn't run by very dumb people ,and had true democracy and true freedom of information and a true leadership with revolutionary education system ,and its government not attached to the past.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:36 am

    It is said that externally induced psychosis is a side effect from taking the Pfizer clotshot

    It is said by whom?

    Surely to get people to take the evil devils brew of lethal toxins the psychosis needs to be induced before they get vaccinated... otherwise why would they take it?

    Literal nothing of value, depth or factuality was in there. And I did the best I could to plough through that abomination of a post!

    By all means refuse the jab and remain in your little bubble of ignorance.

    The County of Waterford has a 99.5 percent of their >18 population vaccinated. It is currently the hardest hit county in Ireland, both in terms of cases and hospitalizations (looked it up online)

    Well if it is online then it must be true.

    Dr Niall Macnamara, who is part of the Keogh Practice in Waterford city, said vaccines are “not anything like as effective as we initially thought they might be” in stopping the spread of Covid-19.

    Who said vaccination would stop the spread of the virus?

    Dr Macnamara said vaccine boosters will be successful in stopping the spread of Covid-19 in the community. Booster shots are currently being rolled out to people aged 60 and over, and to frontline healthcare workers

    Well there you have it... he is not just saying you need to get the vaccine, but you also need to take follow up booster shots to ensure your immunity remains strong enough to protect you.

    Funny how you twist that into suggesting no one should be vaccinated at all...


    In Scotland 89 percent of the November Coronavirus deaths were amongst fully vaccinated. This comes directly from the Scottish Public Health data. They also account for 77 percent of the hospitalizations and 66 percent of the new cases.

    Scotland, like any other country, is experiencing rather severe excess death numbers in 2021. But this for some reason doesn't get reported in the MSM and
    the causes remain 'a mystery'

    Retired Scottish Professor of Biology Richard Ennes recently wrote a letter to the Scottish government wherein he states that consistent excess deaths need to be investigated thoroughly with a specific focus on the vaccine rollout.

    But isn't it just the flu and they get extra funding for calling it death by Covid so they are lying.

    Interesting you can be so flexible with the truth and the figures when it suits your narrative.

    At the end of the day you can either get vaccinated... which will now likely require a booster later on down the track... or no vaccinations at all.

    All your whining and complaints and accusations wont change that.

    According to this study the spike inducing Coronavirus vaccines are now thought to inhibit DNA repair on a cellular level thereby leading to weakened immune systems and a whole myriad of other issues. This also goes for serious Coronavirus infections.

    Old age inhibits DNA repair... that is why your skin gets wrinkly and less elastic as you get older... no part of your body is more than 10 years old with different bits being renewed at different rates... the aging process is essentially the replacement components being not as well made as the parts that are being replaced.

    I am rather excited to learn about Dr. GarryB's take on the matter. Bytheway when's your (the first of many) booster planned, Big G?

    Amused you are trying to pretend to understand what they are talking about... is there a small child at your location that occasionally gets access to your account... or are you bipolar and just sometimes think you are a little girl with excellent English skills?

    Meet the true heroes of our time

    Is there any reason they are embracing like that?


    yet.. they are wrong.. because the nobel science winner GarryB , says so . and so says several pfizer own scientist too ,that claimed no vaccination is better than vaccination because of the fraud and corruption of how the approval of american vaccines was done.

    and so we all should consult garryb , for any question , regarding covid19.. if he took the shot ,and nothing happened to him, that automatically means ,the entire world is safe.

    A month.
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    Post  Mir Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:32 am

    Is there any reason they are embracing like that?

    It's a very common way of showing unity and camaraderie in the civilized world - nothing strange about that?
    I guess in New Zealand you guys are doing it a bit differently?

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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:18 pm

    At the moment the best way of unity and camaraderie is to be highly cautious and maintain sufficient level of hygiene to minimize the risk of being infected, and to protect our friend from the contagious disease.

    Custom can change if the situation demands, I believe.
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    Post  Mir Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:35 pm

    So what are you supposed to do in situations like this?

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    I guess they can all don hazmat suits! Oh what a fkn joke this is! Laughing
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    Post  Mir Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:35 pm

    Another good example of Darwin Award contenders are the Australians who are on the verge of a nationwide lockdown for the unvaccinated, yet the Polish right wing just had a mass demonstration in Warsaw defying all lockdown rules and regulations. I guess these Polish demonstrators sacrificed their lives for their "noble cause". Tomorrow they will all drop dead from this deadly disease!

    I wonder how the suicide rate in Australia is doing? Last time I checked it didn't look so good.

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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:37 pm

    Mir wrote:So what are you supposed to do in situations like this?

    If your work require exposures and close physical contacts and there is no other alternative, then making sure you are clean and protected beforehand. And properly checking and testing your members before they enter the workfield and exposed themselves to each other.

    If the medical criteria do not meet then we have no choice but to suspend the work untill things are better. Work can be resumed but dead people cannot be brought back.

    Moreover, you can do your job well only when you are healthy and alive. Health and human lives are more important to the economy than people usually think. The damages to the working people - the most important power behind economic development - bring more devastation that people usually think.

    And at the end of the day, what is the meaing of economy if it is not for the people who are working to make it ?
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    Post  Mir Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:45 pm

    Still plenty of people around at 7.9 billion and still growing - despite all the fear mongering! Laughing

    PS - there is a plan in the making to bring the total population down to around 5 billion. I keep on wondering how in the hell are they going to get this right?! dunno
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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:06 pm

    The reason why humanity keep bouncing back after pandemics and disasters is that they manage to KNOW these are disasters, which needed to be avoided, and lessons needed to be learnt so that tragedy will never occur again.

    The different between human and dinosaur is that dinosaur adaptation relies mainly on their congenital traits, while human adaptation relies mainly on social adaptation and social evolution. That's why dinosaurs went extinct and human will be able to colonize even in the outer space.
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    Post  kvs Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:11 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    Mir wrote:So what are you supposed to do in situations like this?

    If your work require exposures and close physical contacts and there is no other alternative, then making sure you are clean and protected beforehand. And properly checking and testing your members before they enter the workfield and exposed themselves to each other.

    If the medical criteria do not meet then we have no choice but to suspend the work untill things are better. Work can be resumed but dead people cannot be brought back.

    Moreover, you can do your job well only when you are healthy and alive. Health and human lives are more important to the economy than people usually think. The damages to the working people - the most important power behind economic development - bring more devastation that people usually think.

    And at the end of the day, what is the meaing of economy if it is not for the people who are working to make it ?

    The Canadian regime imposed mandatory vaxxing with mRNA concoctions on government teleworkers. That is, people who were told to work from home
    in early 2020. The mRNA vax pusher regimes around the world do not care about the details. Their agenda is to screw around with your cellular
    DNA. The more time passes the more I am certain that the spike protein is not the only thing being generated by the mRNA in these "vaccines".

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    Post  Mir Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:23 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:The reason why humanity keep bouncing back after pandemics and disasters is that they manage to KNOW these are disasters, which needed to be avoided, and lessons needed to be learnt so that tragedy will never occur again.

    The different between human and dinosaur is that dinosaur adaptation relies mainly on their congenital traits, while human adaptation relies mainly on social adaptation and social evolution. That's why dinosaurs went extinct and human will be able to colonize even in the outer space.

    BTW Dinosaurs went extinct looong before humans were around. They perished mainly due to a cataclysmic event from outer space. No human will ever survive a similar event no matter how "hygienic" our adaptations are. AND if colonizing space by any humans depends on Musk I'm afraid we're not going anywhere any time soon! Laughing
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    Post  Kiko Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:04 pm

    WHO announced an early meeting on "Sputnik V"

    The World Health Organization (WHO) plans to hold a meeting on the Russian Sputnik V vaccine next week, WHO Assistant Director-General Mariangela Simao said Friday.

    "We are in dialogue with the applicant and the Russian government, we hope to hold a meeting [on the vaccine] next week," Simao quoted TASS as saying .

    WHO “still hopes to receive a complete dossier on Sputnik V,” she said.

    “We have questions about the inspection at the NF Gamaleya National Research Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology, on the inspection of production, we also need some additional information,” Simao said.

    Anatoly Altstein , a researcher at the Gamaleya Research Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology , suggested that the European regulator EMA would approve the Russian Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine shortly after it was recognized by WHO.

    Earlier, the Kremlin announced the imminent registration of Sputnik V in Europe.

    The World Health Organization (WHO) announced the expectation of the submission from Russia of a complete package of documents on the Sputnik V vaccine. At the same time, in August, WHO Assistant Director General Marianjela Simao announced that Sputnik V could receive WHO approval in September.

    The Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF) noted that for a year of use, the Sputnik V vaccine "has proven its highest safety and effectiveness in the fight against coronavirus through the experience of its use in the leading countries of the world." Today "Sputnik V" is registered in 69 countries with a total population of more than 3.7 billion people, or about half of the world's population. RDIF has signed agreements on the production of Sputnik V with more than 20 leading manufacturers in 14 countries, including manufacturers from India, China, South Korea, Argentina, Mexico and a number of other countries.

    Earlier, the EMA indicated the possibility of new checks on Sputnik V when registering in Europe.

    https://m.vz.ru/news/2021/11/12/1128814.html

    This is relevant because Mariângela Simão is Brazilian, as are several of the country's governors (mainly from the poorer Northeastern region) who are urgently requesting Sputnik Vs from the Brazilian central government for their states.

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    Post  kvs Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:33 pm

    I bet the WHO never demanded any comprehensive package of documents from, Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson (Janssen), etc.   The Janssen
    vaccine production experienced massive production quality problems to the point that millions of doses were rejected by countries.

    I have not heard a single story about production quality problems for Sputnik V.   If they happened you bet your ass that the western
    fake stream media would be all over it like flies on shit.   Instead we had cases of fake Sputnik V batches being distributed in some
    pathetic attempt to smear this vaccine.

    The WHO is clearly using political criteria for its heel dragging on Sputnik V.   They are surely using the political theater staged by
    Slovakia a while back as "evidence" of "quality issues".  

    Russia should stop pandering to these WHO worms.   Too bad for countries like Brazil.   It should contract supplies directly from
    Russia without bending over and taking it from irrelevant outfits like the WHO.
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    Post  Kiko Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:29 pm

    Russian agencies, EMA cooperate for Sputnik V vaccine approval - Lavrov

    France is among those in the European Union who are waiting for the decision of the World Health Organization, Russian Foreign Minister said.

    PARIS, November 12. /TASS/. Russian agencies are collaborating with the European Medicines Agency (EMA) and the World Health Organization (WHO) to approve the use of the Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told reporters on Friday.

    "No, the issue was not brought up today, but we have it under control," the Russian foreign minister said when asked whether the Sputnik V authorization was touched upon at the talks with the French defense and foreign ministers.

    "France is among those in the European Union who are waiting for the decision of the World Health Organization (WHO). It is being delayed for some objective reasons, but also for some subjective ones. Our corresponding authorities work alongside the European Medicines Agency and, of course, we work with the World Health Organization," he said.

    Lavrov pointed out that a number of European countries had opted for recognizing the Russian vaccine. He added that the pandemic had served to spotlight the need for cooperation between Russia and the European Union.

    "We take an interest in working with the European Union. And the fact that there are such issues, and that they are not far-fetched, but quite real and rather thorny is proven in the situation with coronavirus infection, where we need to team up putting aside commercial interests," he said.

    Lavrov recalled that Russian President Vladimir Putin suggested this April that patent protection of all vaccines be temporary lifted for the pandemic.

    "This has simply gone nowhere, as no reaction followed. And of course, it is frustrating that in the face of such a truly global disaster many try to play to their own advantage and at the expense of others," the Russian foreign minister said.

    Lavrov emphasized that Moscow remains ready to establish constructive relations with the EU, "which have been destroyed by the European Union itself."

    Lavrov noted that the talks with EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell in Moscow this February have not brought about real action in the areas of health, climate, digitalization and green economy.

    "However, nothing is working out so far. I think that it is due to the inertia of that Russophobic minority that imposes its policy on all sensible and sane members of the European Union," Lavrov concluded.

    Sputnik V was authorized in Russia on August 11, 2020 to become the world’s first officially certified COVID-19 vaccine. To date, Sputnik V has been approved for use in 70 countries with a cumulative population of four billion people. On March 4, the EU regulator announced the start of Sputnik V’s rolling review.

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    Post  Mir Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:26 am

    "Thousands protest over Covid-19 ‘tyranny’ in Melbourne"

    https://www.rt.com/news/540169-melbourne-covid-dictators-protest/

    Thousands of Australians took to the streets of Melbourne to protest over both a vaccine mandate and a proposed bill which would give Victoria State Premier Daniel Andrews more power to declare a pandemic and impose lockdowns.

    The large group of protesters, which included children and the elderly, carried Australian flags and marched through Melbourne’s Central Business District on Saturday, calling for the dismissal of their premier with chants of “Sack Dan Andrews!”

    Craig Kelly, a United Australia Party MP for the Division of Hughes, NSW, took part in the protest and called for the premier powers bill to be killed. On social media, Kelly wrote that the demonstration stood “against tyranny,” “against dictators,” and “against human rights abusers” in an apparent dig at Andrews.

    Saturday’s protest was just the latest in a string of Melbourne protests since the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, and the latest of several protests in the city to specifically target the proposed bill.

    Melbourne has experienced some of the longest and strictest Covid-19 lockdowns in the world. Last month, as the city's sixth lockdown came to an end, Melbourne's total number of days in lockdown since the beginning of the pandemic totalled 262.
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    Post  Mir Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:35 am

    AND from the Netherlands - another highly vaccinated country >>

    https://www.rt.com/news/540153-hague-protests-covid19-lockdown/

    Protesters took to the streets and clashed with Dutch police in The Hague shortly after caretaker Prime Minister Mark Rutte announced strict new lockdown measures to curb Covid-19 cases.

    Demonstrators threw stones and set off fireworks on Friday evening, while riot police at one point deployed a water cannon, according to footage and reports from the city.
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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:02 pm

    Note: at the moment 90% of Cuban population has been administered at least one dose and 70% of Cuban has been fully vaccinated.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article255762281.html

    The Cuban government rejected a U.S. donation of one million doses of a COVID-19 vaccine because the offer came too late and had too many requirements attached, the island’s foreign minister said in a gathering with accredited diplomats in Havana.

    Bruno Rodriguez said the U.S. State Department reached out to the Cuban embassy in Washington last Friday to make the offer he referred to as “last minute” and “opportunistic.”

    The minister made the exchange public during an unusual meeting Wednesday in which he complained about alleged U.S. plans to destabilize the communist government and the lack of humanitarian assistance during the pandemic. “They are offering vaccines to an already vaccinated population, even when the booster dose program is advancing, but they also pose strict and interventionist requirements, such as the obligation to carry out clinical studies in Cuba with these vaccines,” the minister said.

    The timing of the U.S. donation proposal coincides with the enactment of new travel rules by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that ban foreign travelers who are unvaccinated or got shots that do not have emergency authorization from the WHO. Most Cubans, who received the local vaccines Soberana and Abdala, cannot enter the U.S. under such requirements.

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    Post  Mir Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:09 pm

    Good for the Cuban government as they already have two effective vaccines. No need for US interference.

    In fact the Cubans helped the Chinese right at the beginning of the plandemic with a drug Interferon with great results, that was developed 40 years ago!
    https://www.workers.org/2020/03/46641/

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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:12 am

    Mir wrote:Good for the Cuban government as they already have two effective vaccines. No need for US interference.

    There is more than that. The U.S. is trying to prevent other countries from accessing Cuba or other alternative vaccines. The West want to maintain the domination of Pfizer, Moderna and other Western-associated companies on the vaccine market. For example at the moment travelers using Cuban vaccines are unable to enter America. The sad thing here is that the U.S. still have strong economic and financial influence worldwide and it is using that to blackmail other countries.

    Cuba is having talks with the WHO to get the emergency authorization for her vaccines. Hopefully things will be OK for Cuba and the world.
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    Post  Mir Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:54 am

    Now you see Higurashihougi in your post above you have come to the crux of the matter. IF this was a real pandemic like back in the days of the Spanish Flu, you would expect countries like the US to work together with other countries like Cuba, Russia, China or even France or any other country to save humanity from extinction.

    In all the studies the Russian and Cuban vaccines have all proven to be more effective and safer than any of the mRNA types developed yet the WHO has for some "odd reason" dragged their feet to clear the safer vaccines for use. No doubt the same thing will happen with the Cuban vaccines whilst the West keeps on pushing their booster mRNA shots.

    Even "Dr" Gates now admits that the mRNA shots are not working so good but they will keep on peddling the drug for a couple of billion more in small change.

    Can you imagine when a cataclysm is about to strike mother Earth. One would expect the US with all it's military might to use that power to steer the threat from harms way, but from what I see the first thing they would actually do is to contemplate the possibility on how to use it as a WMD. Like say, giving it a little nudge towards China.

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    Post  Mir Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:10 am

    Jeff Bezos spelling it out very loud and clear Laughing

    https://www.rt.com/usa/540203-bezos-earth-population-limit/

    Humanity will move most industry into space and allow only a select few to remain on our planet, which will be turned into a natural resort, according to self-funded space explorer Jeff Bezos.

    Amazon is infamously resourceful when it comes to squeezing its workers for every drop of productivity. That’s why the similarly rosy description of ‘Amazon factory towns’ solving economic inequality in the US was met with horror, when it was proposed by a Bloomberg columnist in September.

    The entrepreneur didn’t comment on who he thinks would decide who gets to live on Earth in the future, when asked by the host of the event, Adi Ignatius. If historic precedent is any indicator, privileges granted by wealth and status may be involved.

    Us slaves will most definitely have to fork up handsomely for our compulsory annual holiday on the Jeff Bezos Resort (aka Earth) Laughing
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    Post  GarryB Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:32 am

    The fact that America tolerates the worlds richest man earning his money from a company where the front line workers get minimum wage and worked like dogs and if they get sick they get fired and therefore lose their health insurance coverage, is the reason the US is the way it is currently...

    But with everyone able to become rich then the rich should be allowed to get away with stuff because I want to someday be rich and therefore enjoy being elevated up out of the shit... problem is fewer and fewer people are being held out of the dirty water, and the richest people in the US do nothing at all to help anyone up out of the water... even the people that work for them and earn them their wealth...
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    War criminal grade scumbag, the CEO of Pfizer, accuses anyone who does not sing from his choir sheet of being a criminal.

    I am sure that Justin Skippy Turdeau is dripping with desire to ram through a law or edict to send all the anti-vaxxers and
    vax skeptics to the Canadian gulags.

    BTW, Canada has a long history of running gulags for its internal "enemies". Ukrainians during WWI and Japanese during WWII.

    Sanctimonious countries are always big time human rights abusers no matter how much they pose as being branches of Heaven
    on Earth.

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    Post  Mir Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:47 am

    A little black humour for the day Wink

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    Post  Mir Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:07 pm

    In a seminar on Medical and Public Health Preparedness for Catastrophic Events held in Washington (DC) back in February 2016 one of the key role players in the Covid scam, Peter Daszak made the following statement:

    Daszak reiterated that until an infectious disease crisis is very real, present, and at an emergency threshold, it is often largely ignored. To sustain the funding base beyond the crisis, he said, we need to increase public understanding of the need for MCMs such as a pan-influenza or pan-coronavirus vaccine. A key driver is the media, and the economics follow the hype. We need to use that hype to our advantage to get to the real issues. Investors will respond if they see profit at the end of the process, Daszak stated.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK349040/


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