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    Project 22800: "Karakurt" class missile ship #2

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:50 am

    What is the progress of Askold and tsiklon?

    Both zaliv ships were sea trialing in black sea, I'd like to see them launch kalibr as part of their military trials against nazis
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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:29 pm

    31.10.2022
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    Russian "Askold" will complete the test

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    Russian small rocket ship "Askold" project 22800 "Karakurt".
    Image source: Photo: TASS/Sergei Malgavko

    The Russian small missile ship (RTO) "Askold" of project 22800 (code "Karakurt"), armed with the Kalibr-NK and Pantsir-M complexes, will complete sea trials in the first half of 2023. This is reported by TASS, citing a source in the military-industrial complex.

    “The Askold ship, armed with Caliber missiles and the marine version of the Pantsir complex, will complete sea trials in December and begin state trials in early 2023,” the source said.

    The source added that "upon completion of the marine part of the test program, the revision of the ship will begin."

    In October, the press service of the Russian Baltic Fleet reported that the new project 22800 Burya small missile ship, which is the carrier of the Caliber and Onyx cruise missiles, is undergoing factory sea trials at sea ranges.

    https://vpk.name/news/648018_rossiiskii_askold_zavershit_ispytaniya.html

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    Post  Krepost Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:48 am

    The ASKOLD is on tests. Here is the latest photo.

    Currently, we have 3 KARAKURTs on sea trials: BURYA, TSIKLON and ASKOLD.
    All 3 are armed with the PANTSIR-M.

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    Edit: I suspect TSIKLON is already in service (but never announced). We will see.

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    Post  TMA1 Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:34 am

    I see some missiles armed on the pantsir complex. I know that it isnt it's doctrine for this vessel but it would be cool if it got a paket type anti submarine/torpedo system. Would be a small yet universal ship for air, land and sea.
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    Post  lancelot Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:06 am

    They should move these ships with the Pantsir-M to the Black Sea to exchange with those in there without it and modify prior ships to have the Pantsir-M. Without beefed up air defense those older ships are just targets for armed drones. MANPADS are not enough when drones can attack from outside MANPADS range.
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:10 am

    Modernizing the old ones won't be easy as those have a different radar suit and the mast itself. That would be a serious modernization to be carried out.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:03 am

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    New small missile ships (SMS) of project 22800 on trials

    As reported, in October 2022, factory sea trials of two new project 22800 small missile ships (code "Karakurt"), completed by construction for the Russian Navy, began at once. On the Baltic Sea, on October 15, the small missile ship (SMS) Burya (serial number 257), built by the Leningrad Shipbuilding Plant Pella, made its first test run. A little earlier, tests of the Askold SMS (serial number 802), built in Kerch at the B.E. Butomy" (management company for OOO "Shipyard "Zaliv").

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    [The small missile ship "Askold" (serial number 802) of project 22800 (code "Karakurt") built for the Russian Navy in Kerch during factory sea trials. Sevastopol, October 2022]

    Recall that the MRK of project 22800 (code "Karakurt") was designed by JSC Central Marine Design Bureau "Almaz" (St. Petersburg) and was supposed to replace in the construction for the Russian Navy SMSs of project 21631 (code "Buyan-M") developed by JSC " Zelenodolsk Design Bureau". The Russian Ministry of Defense initially contracted 18 project 22800 RTOs in 2014, but in September 2020 canceled the contract for two units ordered by Vostochnaya Verf JSC in Vladivostok.

    Due to the fact that small missile ships (SMS) of project 22800 are equipped with a main power plant as part of high-speed diesel engines M507D-1, the difficulties of Zvezda PJSC (St. Petersburg) in producing these engines in the required volumes led to the fact that the project 22800 series turned into a long-term and already launched hulls of ships have been idle for years waiting for these engines.

    The construction of the first seven SMSs of project 22800 since 2015 has been carried out by the Leningrad Shipbuilding Plant Pella OJSC, which has by now delivered the first three ships of this type, which entered into service with the Baltic Fleet - Mytishchi (laid down under the name Uragan, renamed in 2018 year, serial number 251, commissioned by the Navy on December 17, 2018), "Sovetsk" (laid down under the name "Typhoon", serial number 252, commissioned on October 12, 2019) and "Odintsovo" (serial number 253, laid down under name "Shkval", put into operation on November 21, 2020).

    Now released for testing SMS "Storm" (serial number 257) is the fourth ship built entirely on the "Pella". It was laid down there on December 24, 2016 and launched on October 23, 2018, but as a result, it was able to start testing only four years later - three years later than the contract period. The Burya also became the second ship of this Pella construction project, equipped with the Pantsir-M shipborne anti-aircraft missile and gun system (Odintsovo was the first).

    Three ships of project 22800 - Shtorm (serial number 254, planned to be renamed Kozelsk, but it is unclear , it was carried out), "Okhotsk" (serial number 255) and "Whirlwind" (serial number 256), - the hulls of which were built at the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "Shipbuilding Plant" More "in Feodosia (Crimea) and then towed along inland waterways to "Pella" for completion in November 2019 - May 2020.

    The Askold SMS, which was released for testing on the Black Sea, is the second unit built under the contract of the Russian Ministry of Defense signed on August 5, 2016 with Zelenodolsk Plant named after A.M. Gorky JSC (Zelenodolsk) for the construction of five serial SMSs of the project for the Russian Navy 22800. Since the end of 2014, the Kerch shipbuilding plant "Zaliv" has been under the control of the Zelenodolsk plant named after A.M. Gorky, and now - under the control of the head structure of the Zelenodolsk Shipyard in the form of JSC "Shipbuilding Corporation" Ak Bars "(SKAB) through a "laying" in the form of B.E. Butoma Shipbuilding Plant JSC (existing at the same address as Zaliv Shipbuilding Plant LLC). Therefore, the construction of three out of five SMSs ordered under this contract is being carried out in Kerch All five SMSs ordered by Zelenodolsk are equipped with Pantsir-M air defense systems.

    The lead Zelenodolsk SMS of project 22800 under this contract Cyclone (serial number 801) was laid down without much publicity at the Zaliv shipyard in Kerch on July 26, 2016 and launched on July 24, 2020. Factory sea trials of the Cyclone were launched in Novorossiysk at the end of November 2021, but the ship has not yet completed the tests, although it is unofficially stated that this SMS will be handed over to the fleet by the end of 2022.

    The second Project 22800 Askold SMS built in Kerch (serial number 802) was laid down there on November 18, 2016 and launched on September 21, 2021, and has now been handed over for testing. Its commissioning is expected in the first half of 2023.

    Also in Kerch, the construction of the third SMS "Amur" (serial number 803), laid down on July 30, 2017, is underway. The contract deadlines for the delivery of these three Kerch ships were 2019-2020, but they significantly went "to the right."

    On February 26, 2019, the Tucha SMS (serial number 804) was laid down at the Zelenodolsk Shipyard, which became the first ship of Project 22800, which is actually being built in Zelenodolsk. September 11, 2019 in Zelenodolsk was laid the same type of SMS "Typhoon" (serial number 805). The contract deadline for the delivery of ships with serial numbers 804 and 805 was 2021, however, apparently, in reality this will not happen before 2024.

    Four more RTOs of project 22800 are being built at JSC "Amur Shipbuilding Plant" (ASZ) in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, where they were laid down in 2019-2020 - "Rzhev", "Udomlya", "Pavlovsk" and "Ussuriysk" (factory numbers from 201 to 204).

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    Project 22800 small missile ship Burya (serial number 257) of project 22800 (code "Karakurt") built for the Russian Navy at the Leningrad Shipbuilding Plant Pella OJSC in Kronstadt before entering factory sea trials, 10/12/2022 (c) Curious / forums .airbase.ru

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    The unfinished small missile ships of project 22800 located at Pella Leningrad Shipbuilding Plant, from left to right: Wikhr (serial number 256), Okhotsk (serial number 255) and Storm (serial number 254) of project 22800, 22.10 .2022 (c) Curious / forums.airbase.ru

    https://vpk.name/news/649733_novye_malye_raketnye_korabli_proekta_22800_na_ispytaniyah.html

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:07 am

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    18 November 2022 at 9:13 Subject: Industry

    In 2023, Amur shipyard will launch the first Karakurt for the Pacific Fleet


    The shipbuilders of the Amur Shipbuilding Plant began to present to the regulatory authorities the finished structures of block sections of the hull of the project 22800 small missile ship "Rzhev" under construction (code "Karakurt"). This was announced on Friday, November 18, in the press service of the enterprise.

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    Small missile ship "Rzhev"
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    As Evgeny Ionin, senior builder of the factory order, said, the main propulsion equipment was loaded on small missile ship, work is underway to manufacture and install pipelines for the OCS and power plant systems. Air conditioners and fans are installed, in full - electric compressors, equipment of the main switchboard, thruster.
    In addition, the specialists of the Amur Shipbuilding Plant (ASZ) are working on the manufacture and installation of fittings, foundations for the order under construction.

    The work on the manufacture and installation of the superstructure, the BMK section has been completed - welding and straightening of structures are underway.

    The work is moving in accordance with the construction schedule, the press service of the ASZ stressed. In 2023, the factory workers will have to take the ship out of the workshop and launch it for completion afloat.

    Rzhev is the first Project 22800 RTO being built by ASZ for the Pacific Fleet. It was laid down in July 2019. In total, the shipyard must transfer four such ships to the Navy.

    Small missile ships of the Karakurt type were designed by the Almaz Central Marine Design Bureau. RTO length - 60 meters, width - 10 meters, draft - 4 meters. The main power plant is diesel. Maximum speed - 30 knots, cruising range - 2500 miles, autonomy - 15 days.


    https://flot.com/2022/%D0%90%D1%81%D0%B711/

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    Post  lancelot Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:57 am

    These ships are more than necessary. However they certainly took their own sweet time with this. I do not know if there were delays with the engines or whatever. But Pella launched the ships after 2 years. Amur shipyard is going to take 4 years at best. This is god awful slow.

    It also seems like poor use of available facilities. JSC Vostochnaya Verf has good enough facilities to built these ships and is presently working at half gas. While Amur shipyard could be building larger corvettes or frigates instead. Right now Amur can build a Project 20380 corvette as fast as these ships.
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    Post  Arrow Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:58 pm

    The Amur Shipyard is likely to build the 22350 frigates.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:13 pm

    Arrow wrote:The Amur Shipyard is likely to build the 22350 frigates.

    They are building 22800 series as well

    In any case i am glad to see Tsiklon, Askold and Burya completing trials soon

    Now Shtorm (Kozelsk), Okhotsk , and Vikhr must be completed-

    I saw pictures of them lined up next to each other waiting for engines, once they get powerplant on them I'd like to see them also in trials

    Then Zaliv, Amur and Zelenodolsk can finish the rest of these - hopefully m507 will be produced in serial numbers by the time those hulls are completed
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    Post  lancelot Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:21 pm

    Arrow wrote:The Amur Shipyard is likely to build the 22350 frigates.
    I would just make Amur Shipyard focus on building Project 20380/20385. That way Severnaya Verf would focus on just Project 22350.
    I think it is better for each shipyard to focus on a single ship class as much as possible.

    Project 22800 (Karakurt) can be built at Zaliv, Pella, Zelenodolsk, and Vostochnaya Verf.
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    Post  Arrow Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:38 pm

    would just make Amur Shipyard focus on building Project 20380/20385. That way Severnaya Verf would focus on just Project 22350. I think it is better for each shipyard to focus on a single ship class as much as possible. wrote:

    Severnaya Verf will build project 22350M and Amur Shipyard will continue project 22350.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:12 pm

    December 17, 17:11

    Small missile ship "Burya" (Storm) began testing at sea before entering the Baltic Fleet


    As noted in the press service of the fleet, the factory commissioning team and the crew of the ship will conduct maneuvering and speed tests, as well as check the operation of units, systems, assemblies, weapons, navigation and radio engineering

    KALININGRAD, 17 December. /TASS/. The Burya small missile ship, equipped with Kalibr cruise missiles and the Pantsir-M anti-aircraft missile and gun system, began state tests in the Baltic Sea before joining the Baltic Fleet, the press service of the fleet reported.

    "The newest small missile ship (MRK)" Storm "of project 22800 - the carrier of cruise missiles "Kalibr ", built at the JSC "Leningrad shipbuilding plant" Pella "for the Baltic Fleet, has begun to pass the program of state tests in the sea ranges of the Baltic Fleet," the statement says. message.

    During the tests, the factory commissioning team and the crew of the ship will conduct maneuvering and speed tests, check the operation of all units, systems and assemblies, as well as weapons, navigation and radio engineering. "In the near future, within the framework of state tests, the crew will have to carry out artillery firing at a sea target from the ship's artillery complex," the press service noted.

    As part of the Baltic Fleet, the RTO "Burya" will perform tasks according to its intended purpose in the formation of missile ships and boats of the Baltic naval base.

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    Post  Begome Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:18 pm

    Wrong thread...Burya is a project 22800 Small Missile Ship ("Karakurt-class" in NATO classification). Project 21631 Buyan-M SMS don't have Pantsir-M.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:32 am

    Burya is a vessel of the Karakurt class

    This is a thread about the Karakurt class

    It's the right thread
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    Post  GarryB Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:30 am

    It is in the right thread because I moved it... originally posted in the Buyan thread...

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Dec 28, 2022 2:22 pm

    On the Russian military forum, they write that the small missile ships "Burya" (Baltic fleet) and "Tsiklon" (Black sea fleet) will be handed over to the Russian Navy tomorrow, that is, on December 29, 2022.



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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:37 pm


    "Kaluga" will serve in the Baltic along with "Tarusa"


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    The small rocket ship "Burya" will be renamed "Kaluga" during 2023. Kaluga residents will serve there, Kaluga will provide patronage assistance to the ship, the city duma reported. In addition, Kaluga will take patronage over one of the platoons of the 336th Marine Guards Brigade.

    The latest project 22800 Burya small missile ship, armed with Caliber cruise missiles, was built at the Pella shipyard and launched quite recently. On December 17, the press service of the Baltic Fleet announced that the ship had begun state trials, after which it would become part of the Baltic Fleet and perform tasks as part of a formation of missile ships and boats of the Baltic Naval Base.

    It will become the second ship of the Baltic Fleet named after the cities of the Kaluga region. A few days ago, Mikhail Golubev, the head of the administration of the Tarusa region, announced that by the end of this year, the "Grad" small missile ship would be enrolled in the Baltic Fleet under the name "Tarusa".

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    Post  Podlodka77 Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:31 pm

    On the first small rocket ship of the project 22800, which is being built at the Amur Shipyard, it has started preparing for tightening cable routes


    Until the end of January, specialists from the Amur Shipbuilding Plant will start tightening cable routes on the Rzhev small missile ship of project 22800 (code "Karakurt"), intended for the Pacific Fleet.

    As reported on Thursday, January 12, in the press service of the shipyard, in January it is also planned to install silencers on three main diesel engines and install air conditioners. In the main wheelhouse, shipbuilders began to install portholes.

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    Small rocket ship "Rzhev"
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    Rzhev is the first Project 22800 RTO being built by NEA for the Pacific Fleet. It was laid down in July 2019. In total, the shipyard must transfer four such ships to the Navy.

    In November last year, it was reported that the Rzhev would be launched in 2023.
    Small missile ships of the Karakurt type were designed by the Almaz Central Marine Design Bureau. RTO length - 60 meters, width - 10 meters, draft - 4 meters. The main power plant is diesel. Maximum speed - 30 knots, cruising range - 2500 miles, autonomy - 15 days.

    The armament of Karakurt is a modernized 76.2-mm AK-176MA gun mount, two AK-630M anti-aircraft artillery systems and a Kalibr-NK strike missile system.


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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:06 am

    January 19, 2023 at 7:51 Subject: Industry

    Amur shipyard to launch the first pair of Karakurts by July 2023
    January 19, 2023 at 7:51 Subject: Industry

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    Small missile ship "Rzhev"
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    By the end of June 2023, the shipbuilders of the Amur Shipbuilding Plant plan to withdraw from the slipway shop and deliver to the outfitting pier small missile ships (SMS) "Rzhev" and "Udomlya" of project 22800 (code "Karakurt"). This was announced on Thursday, January 19, in the press service of the enterprise.

    In the second half of the year, the Rzhev SMS should be transferred to Vladivostok for final completion and sea trials.
    The vacated places in the dry docks, according to Pyotr Golod, Amur shipyard production director, will be occupied by project 20385 corvettes, for which the Amur Shipyard signed a contract with the Ministry of Defense at the end of 2020.

    According to the press service of the shipyard, there are 14 orders on the stocks of the ASZ at different stages of construction. The fourth corvette of project 20380 "Rezkiy" is in the final stage of state tests at the delivery base of the Amur shipyard in Vladivostok.

    As Amur shipyard representatives noted, the factory program is planned until 2033, taking into account the launch of the production of promising ships of the frigate class and the commissioning of two docks - launching and transport docks for the plant's own needs.

    Recall that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation signed a contract with NEA for the supply of four project 22800 SMSs to the Pacific Fleet. The first two ships, Rzhev and Udomlya, were laid down in July 2019. Both SMSs should be commissioned by 2026.


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:41 pm

    What is the status of these projects? Which are very important for Zaliv and Zelendolsk to introduce these ships into the black sea fleet

    These missile carriers have pantsir and are important for the fleet

    Do we have news of the ships in sea trial? What of those that were to be launched

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    Post  Krepost Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:18 am

    TUCHA has been launched at Zelenodolsk.

    Source: https://sudostroenie.info/novosti/39710.html

    Disregard the incorrect picture.

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    Post  AMCXXL Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:25 pm

    Krepost wrote:TUCHA has been launched at Zelenodolsk.

    Source: https://sudostroenie.info/novosti/39710.html

    Disregard the incorrect picture.

    Project 22800 Karakurt-class corvette 'Tucha' launched today at the AO Gorky Zelenodolsk Plant for Russian Navy's Black Sea Fleet.


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    Post  Krepost Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:54 am

    Yes, the TUCHA has been officially launched at Zelenodolsk shipyard.

    Some good eyes have noticed something in the background...

    Look at the last post I made in this thread:

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t3033p575-project-21631-buyan-m-missile-ship#430828

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