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    Post  sepheronx Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:13 pm

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    According to the expert of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, Konstantin Makienko, this contract will become the largest one signed by Russian air forces since 2012, when large contracts for delivery of 92 Su-34 bombers and 60 Su-30SM fighters were signed. “I doubt that such large contracts may be signed by the Russian Ministry of Defense in the coming years,” the expert said.

    Well this self-appointed expert forgets about MiG-35, PAK FA or Tu-160? or he is just and agent of influence wqorking for US?

    Maybe referring to just 1 type of aircraft. But yes, he did conveniently forgot about MiG-35, PAK FA and other aircraft that were also stated will be purchased. Then there is of course transport aircraft, etc.
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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:24 pm

    At the moment Su-27...37 is much more famous and notable than MiG-35. And for many countries, just only Su-27 family is more than enough to fulfill the need of multirole air superiority fighter for the whole army.

    So basically MiG-29/35 is somewhat sidelined in the news articles.

    I do not say that article is good, though.
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    Post  Berkut Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:05 am

    Man you people are overreacting like crazy. He isn't really wrong. Actual contracts for Tu-160M2 are still atleast 3 years down the line imho, with T-50 they won't "bulk buy" like with Su-35S to start with so the contract value shouldn't reach 100 billion RUB. With MiG-35S atleast the initial contract will be around ~30-36 frames and their price will be lower than Su-35S, so again the contract will be smaller. Su-34M wont happen til atleast 2019 etc. So i don't expect bigger fighter contracts til serious T-50 contracts.

    There might be bigger contracts money wise coming from transport section, we shall see.
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    Post  Austin Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:58 am

    Economy Casts Shadow On Russia’s Military Plans

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    Post  Guest Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:09 am

    Austin wrote:Economy Casts Shadow On Russia’s Military Plans

    A quick overview of the article. Oh noes PAK-DA delayed not because Tu-160M2 but because no monies, PAK-FA next!!!!!1!!!! Russia economy doomed, no monies!!!

    Seriously, they act like a economic downturn is permanent and Russia will never ever recover.

    I rate the article as 0/10. Not worth my time.
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    Post  Austin Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:20 am

    I was just wondering in comment section how devaluation of Rouble affected its procrement as mentioend in comment section
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    Post  Austin Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:07 pm

    Some info on future aircraft of RuAF

    What Russian air force want to fly in the twenty-first century - Konstantin Bogdanov

    http://lenta.ru/articles/2015/08/13/pak/
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    Post  Austin Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:10 pm

    Time saving , Why do we need the combined air and space forces- Ilya Kramnik

    http://lenta.ru/articles/2015/08/04/vks/
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    Post  GarryB Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:41 am

    Nice article on the new 30mm cannon rounds.

    basically they use plastic driving bands to improve performance.

    (note most cannon shells are made of mild steel and would wear out steel barrels fairly rapidly, so they have something called a driving band, which is just an area of softer metal at the widest part of the projectile that engages the rifling that spins the projectile. It doesn't wear out the rifling so much and extends the life of the barrel, but still allows cheap mild steel to be used for the projectiles...)
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:45 pm

    GarryB wrote:Nice article on the new 30mm cannon rounds.

    basically they use plastic driving bands to improve performance.

    (note most cannon shells are made of mild steel and would wear out steel barrels fairly rapidly, so they have something called a driving band, which is just an area of softer metal at the widest part of the projectile that engages the rifling that spins the projectile. It doesn't wear out the rifling so much and extends the life of the barrel, but still allows cheap mild steel to be used for the projectiles...)

    Perhaps that development is related to this?

    ...Automated production of small-caliber ammunition with plastic devices is leading to a new branch of the workshop on 12 modern machining centers, which operate simultaneously 8 operators and fitters. For them, the bank of programs for the production of more than 50 kinds of products...

    ...Ammunition made by the new technology, it solves one of the most difficult problems of small-caliber automatic guns - eliminate mechanical wear of the barrel, which is 2-3 times increases their survivability. Besides, the 7-8% increase in muzzle velocity, stabilize their ballistic parameters....

    The company "Tehmash" produces ammunition for new technology

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t3465p105-discuss-ammo-calibres-for-the-russian-army#115466
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    Post  George1 Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:35 pm

    Over 80 aircraft involved in military drills in south Russia
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    Post  Austin Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:18 pm

    Interview with Boris V. Obnosov - General Director of JSC "Corporation" Tactical Missiles - PAK FA will be well-armed and dangerous
    http://nvo.ng.ru/armament/2015-08-21/1_pakfa.html

    Interview with Oleg Odnokolenko the general director of JSC "NIIP Tikhomirov"
    http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2015/08/21/354535.html

    Interview with General Designer of JSC "Aviation Complex. Ilyushin"

    http://vpk.name/news/138905_Epoha_Ilov_prodolzhaetsya.html
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    Post  Austin Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:16 pm

    CEO: order backlog RAC "MiG" is about $ 4 billion

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2201424

    MOSCOW, August 21. / TASS /. The portfolio of orders RAC "MiG" is currently at about $ 4 billion, said on Friday the company's general director Sergei Korotkov.

    "I am optimistic about the future of RAC" MiG ", given the current backlog of orders - some $ 4 billion. It grows and the volume of production", - he said.

    "Existing orders, according to my calculations, will last until 2023," - said the head of the company.

    The share of defense contracts in the production of RAC "MiG" currently stands at 30%, he said shortly. "We want to make 50 to 50%", - he added, noting that the best for the company is the production level of 24 aircraft per year.

    In July last year, Korotkov said reporters that the company's portfolio in the medium term is about 100 aircraft, with the Corporation annually produces and delivers about 24 cars.

    32 Aircraft

    RAC "MiG" this year will put Russian and foreign customers 32 aircraft, said Sergei Korotkov.

    "The Corporation will deliver 32 aircraft this year, intended for the Russian Defense Ministry, as well as for foreign customers," - said shortly.

    In particular, he said, it is about the supply of deck-based fighters MiG-29K / KUB for India. "This year we put under contract to eight aircraft," - said the head of the company.

    Earlier it was reported that the delivery of carrier-based version of the MiG-29 in India will be completed by the end of 2016. Deputy Director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) Anatoly Punchuk in February said that the Indian military at that time had already received 33 of the 45 aircraft ordered.

    In addition, RAC "MiG" delivers carrier-based fighter for the Russian Navy, which has ordered 24 of these machines. Also, the company must deliver in 2015-2016 the Defense Ministry, a total of 16 MiG-29 SMT, a contract was signed last year.

    The contract for the supply of MiG-35

    He also said that the RAC "MiG" plans by year's end to conclude with the Russian Ministry of Defense contract to supply MiG-35.

    "We are waiting for such a contract - all documents are prepared, and they are now being considered. By the end of the year, to a maximum of beginning of the next, very much hope that the contract will be signed," - he said.

    Earlier, Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov said that the Russian military under the state armaments program until 2020 will get 30 MiG-35. As the late commander of aerospace forces of Russia Viktor Bondarev, the aircraft will enter the army in 2018.

    Proposals for a five-ton drone

    RAC "MiG" to the end of the year will present the Ministry of Industry of the Russian Federation proposals on the appearance of unmanned aircraft weighing five tons, said the company's CEO.

    "We are currently in the framework of the contract with the Ministry of Industry R & D at the option image unmanned aircraft in the class pyatitonnik. We are going according to the schedule that we have identified, and materials to the end of the year will give the Ministry of Industry. And then they probably something we offer ", - he said shortly.

    In addition, "MiG" is working to determine the shape of prospective interceptor for the Russian aviation.

    "Today we are conducting research and development, which allows to determine the shape of the complex long-range interception. Upon completion of this work will address the issue of the contract (with the Defense Ministry to create it)," - said shortly.

    Earlier, Viktor Bondarev said that development work on the creation of a new interceptor to replace the existing MiG-31 will begin no earlier than 2019.

    MiG-31 is not available in Syria


    RAC "MiG" is not supplied, and does not intend to deliver to Syria MiG-31, said Sergei Korotkov. Earlier, some foreign media reported that Russia has supplied Syria several interceptors that type.

    "We are planes to Syria is not supplied, and there are not going to exploit," - said Korotkov, responding to a question.

    MiG-31 is in service since the early 1980s. Now this type of aircraft being overhauled, the results of which the Russian army will have more than 130 machines in the version of the MiG-31BM. Now the work is being done on two contracts signed in 2011 and 2014.

    It is expected that the development of the interceptor to replace the MiG-31 will not begin until 2019 - such data announced in mid-August, the commander in chief of Russia Viktor Bondarev videoconferencing.

    RAC "MiG" is not a contract for the supply of MiG-29 Egypt


    RAC "MiG" does not currently have a contract for the supply of MiG-29 fighters to Egypt, Tass said company spokeswoman Anastasia Kravchenko.

    So she commented on some media reports, according to which "MiG" allegedly put the car this type of Egyptian military.

    "Rumors of our promising contracts are exaggerated and are nothing more than speculation," - said Kravchenko.

    Last year in the RAC "MiG" stated that they expect the contract to supply Egypt MiG-35. Earlier this year, Egypt has signed a contract with France for the supply of 24 fighter aircraft Dassault Rafale, becoming the first foreign customer of this type of aircraft. In addition, in the spring, US President Barack Obama has decided to resume the supply of military equipment to Egypt, including 12 F-16 aircraft.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:00 am

    yes sir

    ''Breakneck Speed: New Russian Jet Engine to Propel Aircraft to 9,000 Kmh''

    A new Russian hypersonic engine capable of propelling an aircraft up to 9,000 kmh will be unveiled during the MAKS-2015 air show in Zhukovsky, outside Moscow


    http://sputniknews.com/military/20150823/1026084410/russia-creates-breakthrough-jet-engine.html
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    Post  mack8 Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:53 pm

    Several new types of PGMs have been unveiled:
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1443681.html
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:02 am


    ''Russia Developing Fifth Generation Lightweight Fighter Jet''

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20150825/1026159304/russia-aircraft-mig-pakfa-jet-stealth.html

    Says it'll be based on MiG-1.44? scratch
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:14 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    ''Russia Developing Fifth Generation Lightweight Fighter Jet''

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20150825/1026159304/russia-aircraft-mig-pakfa-jet-stealth.html

    Says it'll be based on MiG-1.44? scratch

    Probably Electronics. This smells like Vityaz 2000 (Mig I-2000) is going Vityaz 2020...

    VITYAZ 2000 - RUSSIAN JSF? By Andrei Yurgenson A new generation of aircraft in any country has always meant money, big money. The increased cost for air vehicles development and production made it the deciding factor. Both the client and contractor have now not only to solve technical problems but also to find new ways to organize and finance development, production, procurement and operation of new aerial vehicles. The USA, one of the wealthiest nations, is not an exception, with the JSF program featuring fund raising problems. The clients and developing companies in the aviation powers had tried to meet requirements of their Air Forces. The aircraft manufacturers had not seen any difference between needs of domestic and foreign customers and the same high performance of the products had been provided for the both markets. The aviation market huge, the prices low, such an importing policy had been seen as a right thing. Now the things have changed: the international aviation market has narrowed in the recent decade and it will keep on going this way next 10-15 years. Thus, a tactical aviation combat aircraft has primarily to be a product meeting needs and financial capabilities of various countries, a foreign-markets-oriented product. On the other hand, potential customers are interested in a multipurpose combat aircraft, the reasons being the same. The analysis of the tactical aviation aircraft shows that about 20 thousand of them have take-off weights between 10 and 20 tons, mass-produced being the MiG-21, MiG-23, MiG-29, A-4, F-16, Mirage III, Mirage F.1, Mirage 2000, J35 Draken, J37 Viggen, J39 Gripen, J-6, J-7. According to the life time and actual time in service, approximately 7,400 vehicles of the type are estimated to be replaced by 2005, about 35% of the fleet in operation. In economics terms, that means that aircraft of this take-off weight may be of great demand in the very near future. So, the new tactical combat aircraft will be of greater flight performance then the 4th generation fighters. It is going to have a multifunction radar with the multichannel tracking and engagement options for air and ground targets as well as to use high-precision weapons killing surface targets. The new system has to be simple in operation, easily put into mass production and easy for personnel training. To be successfully promoted, the new aircraft has to be able to meet the 'efficiency-cost' competition from the existing F-16, Rafale, Mirage-2000, EF2000 and developing JSF. The development of new Russian combat aircraft has always been associated not only with the Air Force demands but also with scientific and technical resources needed to make a more sophisticated aerial vehicle. "The 5th-generation fighter, including all necessary materials, technologies, avionics and armament systems can be developed and produced now only in Russia and the USA", the leading Russian experts say. The United States proved it by the F-22 project, while Russia has already fulfilled a number of programs that can form a science and technical basis for a 5th-generation combat aircraft. The aviation industry has been carrying out researches to assimilate new for Russia aerodynamic configurations as in the 'canard' MiG 1.44 project and Sukhoi Su-47 (S-37) "Berkut"(the Russian for 'golden eagle ') of the triplane forwardswept configuration, unusual even for international practice. The two aircraft are considered as the next-generation technology demonstrators. The designers tried to provide the systems with such 5th-generation characteristics as a decreased radar signature, supersonic cruise flight in the no-afterburner mode, high maneuverability within a wide speed range. In 1994-2000 the OKB 'Mukhamedov' design bureau carried out a separate research to find out what a 5th-generation combat aircraft should look like and what basic properties such an aircraft is going to have. The project has lead to the "Vityaz-2000"? multifunction combat system. The aircraft can be of interest for domestic, CIS and foreign markets, provided the international partnership and investment. Unlike the US JSF, Vityaz is aimed at markets in the CIS, Central Asia, Far East and Asia-Pacific region. Vityaz-2000 features a fundamentally new aerodynamic configuration, dubbed "integral", and allowing stable and controlled flights at extremely big angles of attack. Bureau President Fatidin Mukhamedov, D.Sc., said the company had been developing the "integral" configuration since 1985. Multiple aerodynamic tests of various versions testify to the fact that the configuration can be used for aircraft of various types. The company's first project was the "Evrasia-700" super capacity aircraft, unveiled in Le Bourget in 1993. In 1994, the "integral" configuration was granted the first patent. A year later, in Dubai, the TOO 'Evrasia' company (now OKB 'Mukhamedov') introduced a long-term "integral" configuration combat aircraft project. The most important thing about the aircraft is that the 'integral' configuration provides high aerodynamic performance at low as well as high angles of attack due to the aircraft optimal planform, and specially developed flight structure with reciprocal-type components: wing panels, 'disk' centerwing section, wing extensions and their fuselage parts. The wing extensions and disk turbulent flow systems provide smooth, without rapid changes, association of the lift and longitudinal coefficients according to the angle of attack to compensate for wing panel stalling. The more the angle of attack, the more the centre-wing section works, which, supported by swivel leading edge flaps, increases the angle of attack and smoothes the decreasing of the lift coefficient up to 50-60 degrees. The Vityaz aerodynamic configuration differs from the above ones by powerful lift force direct control elements - swivel wing panels, allowing separation of the trajectory and angular aircraft movements, that is to perform a pitching turn with no change of the lift force, improving the aircraft performance in combat. US developing teams tried to translate the idea into reality in the mid-70s in the AFTI project. The president of OKB "Mukhamedov" believes that 'from the a variety of aircraft characteristics, a developer first of all has to pick out critical ones, what actually an aircraft is made for, then necessary characteristics not interfering with the "critical" section, and auxiliary characteristics aimed only at improving the critical ones'. The critical characteristics of the Vityaz project are high maneuverability at supersonic speeds with the energy level maintained stable, high maneuverability at speeds characteristic of a short-time close combat, supermaneuverability including a controlled flight at a 60œ angle of attack and maneuvers at a more than 90œ angle of attack, take-off and landing characteristics enabling the aircraft to be based near the combat zone. The 'necessary characteristics' section incorporates decreased aircraft radar signature in the thermal and radar ranges, high combat and aircraft surviveability. Vityaz auxiliary property is the lift force direct control system allowing engagement of ground targets at low altitudes and high speeds, as well as increasing the aircraft supermaneuverability and improving the takeoff-landing performance. The swivel wing panels with leading-edge flaps allows operation in the normal flow mode within the required fuselage orientation range. This provides a higher level of controllability in the supermaneuverability modes, elimination of an involuntary spin and entering the supermaneuverability mode at higher speeds. The wing panels at negative local angles temporally reduce the maximum wing load capacity and existing loads almost two-fold. Combined with an increased controllability, this gives the aircraft a possibility to maneuver not exceeding the permissible loads. The aircraft has a full-authority digital automatic control system with a thrust controlled engine nozzle included in the longitudinal and flight control systems. The above aerodynamic characteristics will ensure the aircraft's superiority in a short-time close combat, other things being equal. When backing up ground forces, the aircraft survivability is ensured by armour protection of the critical aircraft units (which is quite a problem for the aircraft type in question) as well as by the fact, that, provided low altitudes (less then 300m) and high speeds (more then 850 km/h), such an air target is rather hard to be engaged by enemy's ground AD forces. On the other hand, in such a flight mode the aircraft cannot effectively engage ground targets without special techniques and technologies. In the Vityaz-2000 project, the problem is solved though separation of the trajectory and angular aircraft directions by the means of the swivel wing panels. It enables Vityaz to kill surface targets in the low-altitude and low-speed mode. At an altitude of 300 m (the attack altitude is usually not less then 100m) and speed of 850 km/h, provided the detection range is 3 km, a conventional versions have no chance of effectively engaging ground targets. In that case, the engage time is less then one second with the minimum range of 1.5 km, while Vityaz-2000 parameters are 5 seconds and 600 m with the aircraft attacking from a more convenient angle. The effective use an aircraft is very much subject to the takeoff and landing performance. The Vityaz-2000 project incorporates a number of technologies to reduce the landing distance and improve the takeoff performance. Compared with the drag parachute technology, which requires all in all two seconds for the parachute to deploy and billow, the Vityaz breaking system is faster, reaching the level of the takeoff run load factor. Mutually enhancing each other, they make the landing distance equal to that of the take-off, reducing the rollout to the minimum. OKB Mukhamedov has patented a number of Vityaz-2000 takeoff and landing technologies. Another important feature of the 5th generation combat aircraft is the considerably reduced radar and infrared signature. The characteristic is vital for the aircraft combat effectiveness in a long-distance combat, undercover missions and engagement of ground targets, especially while neutralizing enemy radars. However, the OKB Mukhamedov experts are convinced the desire to by all means reduce the scattering cross-section will lead to a F-117-like aircraft, when it cannot be detected by an individual SHF radar, but on the other hand not able to accomplish combat tasks due to the aerodynamics, disfigured by stealth demands. That is why the Vityaz project has all reduced scattering cross-section technologies, including weapons systems located in the inner fuselage sections, except for technologies degrading the aerodynamic and flight characteristics. So, predictably the technologies of the Vityaz-2000 project can lead to a new-generation combat aircraft. OKB President Fatidin Mukhamedov emphasized, that "all nations across the world had been focused on the quality, not the quantity in upgrading the armed forces. Vityaz-2000 is sure far ahead of the competition according to the combat effectiveness parameters due to its aerodynamics, other things being equal." wrote:



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    Post  Berkut Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:22 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    ''Russia Developing Fifth Generation Lightweight Fighter Jet''

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20150825/1026159304/russia-aircraft-mig-pakfa-jet-stealth.html

    Says it'll be based on MiG-1.44? scratch

    It isn't clear to me he was actually talking about a light fighter at all. It is most likely he was talking about PAK-DP. But we need a video of his statements because his statements as reported by the media has been completely all over the place.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:24 am

    Berkut wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    ''Russia Developing Fifth Generation Lightweight Fighter Jet''

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20150825/1026159304/russia-aircraft-mig-pakfa-jet-stealth.html

    Says it'll be based on MiG-1.44? scratch

    It isn't clear to me he was actually talking about a light fighter at all. It is most likely he was talking about PAK-DP. But we need a video of his statements because his statements as reported by the media has been completely all over the place.

    More logical that way.
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    Post  zackyx Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:41 pm

    Please could you help me find an article ? I read an article lately about the procurement of PGM by the russian air force, the article said that the russian air force bought a lot of them. Any idea where i can find this article, news or info ?

    Thx in advance
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:46 pm

    Berkut wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    ''Russia Developing Fifth Generation Lightweight Fighter Jet''

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20150825/1026159304/russia-aircraft-mig-pakfa-jet-stealth.html

    Says it'll be based on MiG-1.44? scratch

    It isn't clear to me he was actually talking about a light fighter at all. It is most likely he was talkig about PAK-DP. But we need a video of his statements because his statements as reported by the media has been completely all over the place.

    He did say that it would be based off work done for the MiG 1.44, and it's not a co-incidence they rolled it out this year either; the prototype strike fighter that lost out to the T-50.

    I doubt the PAK-DP would need stealth or canards either.
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    Post  Cyberspec Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:29 am

    Finally, a large order for 'Izd 170-1' AAM's (aka R-77-1 aka RVV-SD)

    http://twower.livejournal.com/1764184.html


    zackyx wrote:Please could you help me find an article ? I read an article lately about the procurement of PGM by the russian air force, the article said that the russian air force bought a lot of them. Any idea where i can find this article, news or info ?

    Thx in advance

    Austin posted here: https://www.russiadefence.net/t3924p330-pak-fa-t-50-news-2 (Post n°335)
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    Post  George1 Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:35 am

    zackyx wrote:Please could you help me find an article ? I read an article lately about the procurement of PGM by the russian air force, the article said that the russian air force bought a lot of them. Any idea where i can find this article, news or info ?

    Thx in advance

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20150826/1026226373.html
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    Post  Austin Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:00 am

    Update from MAKS , Bill Sweetman

    http://aviationweek.com/MAKS#slide-0-field_images-1348821
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:32 pm

    Austin wrote:Update from MAKS , Bill Sweetman

    http://aviationweek.com/MAKS#slide-0-field_images-1348821

    Most of the article is blocked off by a paid subscription wall, you may have to copy and paste the article...

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