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    Post  Werewolf Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:53 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Not sure where to post this as there is no general attack helicopter thread.

    For a change a really good article hosted by VT, written by an American for South Front, on the Mi-24/8 and Ka-50/2. Very positive.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/01/30/military-analysis-russian-attack-helicopters-come-of-age/

    To be honest there are quite a lot of typos and wrong data like dates of helicopters aswell type of helicopters in what configuration and in active service.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:42 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Not sure where to post this as there is no general attack helicopter thread.

    For a change a really good article hosted by VT, written by an American for South Front, on the Mi-24/8 and Ka-50/2. Very positive.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/01/30/military-analysis-russian-attack-helicopters-come-of-age/

    To be honest there are quite a lot of typos and wrong data like dates of helicopters aswell type of helicopters in what configuration and in active service.
    The guy who wrote it clearly doesn't have the knowledge and expertise that is around here. I posted it as it is unusual to see such a generally positive writeup on Russia. Also a decent thread in VT.
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    Post  Guest Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:46 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Not sure where to post this as there is no general attack helicopter thread.

    For a change a really good article hosted by VT, written by an American for South Front, on the Mi-24/8 and Ka-50/2. Very positive.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/01/30/military-analysis-russian-attack-helicopters-come-of-age/

    To be honest there are quite a lot of typos and wrong data like dates of helicopters aswell type of helicopters in what configuration and in active service.
    The guy who wrote it clearly doesn't have the knowledge and expertise that is around here. I posted it as it is unusual to see such a generally positive writeup on Russia. Also a decent thread in VT.

    Yeah quite a few wrong data facts and assumptions but hey... on of the rare occasions where i see something positive written about anything Russian by an American. I found it funny how they portraited Ka50 as mass produced machine Smile
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    Post  George1 Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:05 am

    Ka-52 and Mi-8AMTSh in Eastern Military district

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    Post  medo Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:48 pm



    Helicopters in Korenovsk air base are getting roofs. Very Happy
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    Post  medo Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:08 pm

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    It seems not only helicopters in Korenovsk air base, but also Su-34 in renovated Baltimor air base will get at least new roofs if not full hangars.
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    Post  franco Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:28 pm

    medo wrote:VKS Russian Aerospace Forces: News #2 - Page 7 24853310

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    It seems not only helicopters in Korenovsk air base, but also Su-34 in renovated Baltimor air base will get at least new roofs if not full hangars.


    They almost look to be the same type structure.
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    Post  medo Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:42 pm

    I think in the south of Russia roofs could be enough as there is more mild climate, but in the north or in Far East they will need real hangars for their planes, that they could serve better and longer.
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    Post  Guest Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:03 pm

    medo wrote:I think in the south of Russia roofs could be enough as there is more mild climate, but in the north or in Far East they will need real hangars for their planes, that they could serve better and longer.

    Or keep roofs and use under them inflatable hangars:

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    That way you keep snow away from them and they deal with the rest, wind, water droppings and you can easily warm it when technicians work etc.
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    Post  medo Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:10 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    medo wrote:I think in the south of Russia roofs could be enough as there is more mild climate, but in the north or in Far East they will need real hangars for their planes, that they could serve better and longer.

    Or keep roofs and use under them inflatable hangars:

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    That way you keep snow away from them and they deal with the rest, wind, water droppings and you can easily warm it when technicians work etc.

    Inflatable hangars are far more expensive than screwing there some metal panels for walls.
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    Post  Guest Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:25 pm

    medo wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    medo wrote:I think in the south of Russia roofs could be enough as there is more mild climate, but in the north or in Far East they will need real hangars for their planes, that they could serve better and longer.

    Or keep roofs and use under them inflatable hangars:

    VKS Russian Aerospace Forces: News #2 - Page 7 Pic_popup_grippen

    That way you keep snow away from them and they deal with the rest, wind, water droppings and you can easily warm it when technicians work etc.

    Inflatable hangars are far more expensive than screwing there some metal panels for walls.

    They rust however, and are very hard to get warm enough for crews that work inside, its North after all. Also judging by the price local aero club paid for inflatable hangar for their Cessna (its actually alot bigger than they need, you could probably fit SU30 inside) which was 10.000USD, its beans compared how handy they are.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:48 am

    Inflatable hangars would be good for mobile units, but in terms of operational use they are generally not designed to be used for very long periods and in the north in extreme cold would probably become brittle and collapse.

    Obviously wind would also be an issue.

    Not a permanent solution for permanent bases.
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    Post  medo Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:26 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    medo wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    medo wrote:I think in the south of Russia roofs could be enough as there is more mild climate, but in the north or in Far East they will need real hangars for their planes, that they could serve better and longer.

    Or keep roofs and use under them inflatable hangars:

    VKS Russian Aerospace Forces: News #2 - Page 7 Pic_popup_grippen

    That way you keep snow away from them and they deal with the rest, wind, water droppings and you can easily warm it when technicians work etc.

    Inflatable hangars are far more expensive than screwing there some metal panels for walls.

    They rust however, and are very hard to get warm enough for crews that work inside, its North after all. Also judging by the price local aero club paid for inflatable hangar for their Cessna (its actually alot bigger than they need, you could probably fit SU30 inside) which was 10.000USD, its beans compared how handy they are.

    In Arctic region Russian army already build new modular bases using sandwich metal panels with thermal isolation inside and they work well for troops and for vehicles, so I think they will work well for planes and helicopters as well.
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    Post  George1 Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:46 pm

    The first upgraded IL-76MDM took to the sky in Zhukovsky

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    Post  TheArmenian Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:23 pm

    MiG-29 launching a Kh-31

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    Post  Austin Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:48 am

    Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria and Beyond

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    Post  franco Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:04 pm

    Aircraft Demonstration units preparing to transfer to new aircrafts

    Crews Russian aerobatic air groups "Swifts" and "Wings of Tauris" completed training and instruction flights on the Yak-130 training Borisoglebskaya airbase. The Defense Ministry clarified that the pilots have worked single and group flights. In particular, the group building were performed aerobatics "pyramid" and "diamond" at distances of less than 5 meters between the aircraft. In addition, the pilots carried out a variety of turns and loops. In total, the crews flew 50 hours.

    Since 1991 the main aircraft for aerobatic team "Swifts" is a multi-role fighter MiG-29. However, soon pilots peresyadut more modern Su-30cm. These aircraft is a great resource, so they can be used for a long time and make long flights without any problems.

    aerobatic group "Wings of Tauris", in fact, it flies in the combat training aircraft Yak-130. The group, established two years ago and named in honor of the Crimea, based in Borisoglebsk. Interestingly, taught composition of the new air group is "Swifts", who are already familiar with the machines of the Yak-130. At the moment, "Tauris wings" consists of four machines, but it is planned to increase this number up to six. Probably the joint flights of the two pilot groups are connected with the increase in the number of aircraft in Borisoglebsk Air Group.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:02 pm

    Long and informative article:

    The Revival of Russia's Aviation Industry - New Russian Transport Aircraft

    http://russia-insider.com/en/science-tech/revival-russias-aviation-industry-new-russian-transport-aircraft/ri13262



    ................................
    Summary

    After a long dark period Russia’s air transport fleet is on the brink of a dramatic revival.  

    The plan can be summarised as follows:

    Aircraft                                   Payload                            Aircraft Replaced

    IL112                                      6,000 kg                           AN26

    IL214                                      20,000 kg                         AN12

    IL(4)76                                    60,000 kg                         IL76

    IL106                                      80-100,000 kg                 AN22

    “Project Yermak”            

    (large aircraft)                        150,000 kg                       AN124

    (very large aircraft)                200.000 kg                      AN225





    Many of these aircraft are closely related to each other or to other aircraft that are also in the process of being produced.

    The IL112 is closely related and uses the same Klimov engines as the IL114 turboprop airliner, which is due to re-enter production in 2019.

    The IL214 borrows design cues from the IL76 - the aircraft on which the IL(4)76 is based - and has a hold that is dimensionally identical to that of the IL(4)76 though of only half the length.

    The IL214, IL(4)76 and IL106 use the same or similar engines.  

    Not only is the PS90A engine used by the IL(4)76 closely related to the PD14 engine used by the IL214, but the IL(4)76 will itself probably convert to the PD14 before long.  The PD18R - which will almost certainly be the engine that will power the IL106 - is derived from the PD14.

    Lastly, the various aircraft that will form the family being developed under “Project Yermak” - including the IL106 - will be based on the same concept and will share engines, components and systems with each other
    .........................................................

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    Post  zepia Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:04 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Long and informative article:

    The Revival of Russia's Aviation Industry - New Russian Transport Aircraft

    http://russia-insider.com/en/science-tech/revival-russias-aviation-industry-new-russian-transport-aircraft/ri13262


    Thanks for posting the article. Its help me understand what's what in Russian airlift fleet. russia
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    Post  kvs Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:17 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Last year was a short movie about Kret vision of 6gen fighter:

    6MiMfVzpoNE

    This is a good report. Moving to the drone regime of operation is inevitable. Looking back at some Hollywood
    masturbation fests about uber US technology, they will probably be established as the total joke that they are.
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    Post  Guest Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:48 am

    "According to a source in the Russian Special Services, law enforcers have detained a US citizen near the Chkalovsky Airbase when he was attempting to photograph military and special task aircraft. MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russian law enforcers have detained a US citizen near the Chkalovsky Airbase when he was attempting to photograph military and special task aircraft, a source in the Russian Special Services said Tuesday.

    “US citizen Paul Brian Filmer was detained in mid-March of this year near the Chkalovsky military airport in the Moscow region for using a radio scanner set on the flight center’s frequency and for photographing military and special task aircraft utilized at the [airport],” a source from the Russian Special Services told RIA Novosti. The source said that information on the attempts by representatives of foreign countries, including accredited diplomats, of using illegal means to receive information on Russia’s Aerospace Forces has been attained from sources in the Russian Special Services."


    Source: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160315/1036296088/russian-military-airbase-photographing.html?utm_source=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FL7KnymGTU4&utm_medium=short_url&utm_content=aQ7J&utm_campaign=URL_shortening

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:13 pm

    Not to be left out, the Brits got their cameras out as well. Apparently not giving up the film either.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Two military diplomats from the British Embassy in Moscow were illegally observing operations at the Russian military airbase in Mozdok in the northern Caucasus at the beginning of March, a source in the Special Services said Tuesday.

    “At the beginning of March, Air Force attache Scott from the British Embassy in Moscow and his Naval aide Coatalen-Hodgson without the appropriate permits visited the Mozdok region of Alania [North Ossetia], which is in a list of territories with controlled visits for foreign citizens. During their trip, facts were recorded of the British diplomats secretly observing the territory of the Mozdok Military Airbase using specialized phot and video equipment,” the source told RIA Novosti.

    The source said the diplomats did not deny they had photographed individual facilities at the military airbase, but refused to surrender the filmed material citing diplomatic immunity.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160315/1036297005/russia-uk-observing-military.html#ixzz42y97FZZx
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:41 pm

    Revoked diplomatic immunity or send them packing and forbid any Brita from having any access to sites. Punish them.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:32 pm


    At first I thought that it's just some tourist being too lazy to file the permit request but then I heard about two Brits afterwards. What is this, amateur hour? Have these clowns been sniffing glue or something? No
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    Post  George1 Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:11 pm

    Russia plans air force drills in Karelia

    In the end of March, the annual air force drill “Ladoga” will take place over Lake Ladoga in the Republic of Karelia, which borders to Finland.

    “Ladoga 2016” will involve about 50 pilots on aircraft of the types MiG-29, MiG-31 and Su-27. Fighter jets from Russia’s Western Military District based in Tver and Kursk Oblast and the Republic of Karelia will take part in the drills, the Ministry of Defense’s website reads.

    The drills will include live firing and launch of guided missiles. According to information from the Ministry of Defense, one of the characteristics of the annual Ladoga drill is that the pilots are not informed where the simulated enemy keeps his air attack weapons, and have to search, detect and track targets on their own, while keeping to the zone of combat duty in the air.

    After the exercise, the young pilots will be qualified to conduct combat duty on protection of Russia air space, the ministry informs.

    The “Ladoga” drill is an annual event, and has involved a lot more personnel and aircraft in previous years. In 2013, more than70 planes and helicopters and 1000 troops took part in the drill, and “Ladoga-2009” also involved airborne troops, border guard, naval vessels, and was conducted at nine different ranges.

    http://www.thebarentsobserver.com/security/2016/03/russia-plans-air-force-drills-karelia

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