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    Taliban takeover of Afghanistan

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    Post  nomadski Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:08 pm


    A state dependent on foreign aid , will turn to highest bidder . Americans provide aid . Does China ? And what if they are turncoats ? Or some are ? And they control Afghanistan too ? And the silk Road ? All eggs in Pakistan basket by China ? A country run half the time by Coups?
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:08 pm

    This way they have a chokepoint on the silk Road via Pakistan .
    the Talibs & Pakistanis will only benefit from the BRI via Afghanistan. The US just cut its losses there, creating more instability in C. Asia is a side effect, not the end goal of the withdrawal.
    India could help maintain security for northern BR route via central Asia , and connect to it via Iran to Europe . Also allowing transit through Pakistan.
    India just lost her potential strategic depth in Afghanistan & I doubt she'll be joining the BRI (it can bypass India w/o any loss) before her territorial disputes with PRC & Pakistan r resolved.
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    Post  nomadski Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:22 pm



    The Pakistanis benefit if they keep it open . Or they could decide to deduct a heavy toll . If for example some General decided against it , by American Dollars . It is win win for them . Since only route now , is to southern Pakistan port . But if silk Road branches into Northern Afghanistan , in Tajik area also , then no monopoly exist . No banditry .Iranians will invite India as partners in Afghanistan . No monopoly for China either .
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:31 pm

    Time will tell, it'll be a while before the situation settles there, if ever.

    US weapons in the hands of the Taliban. Militants master aviation and armored vehicles after the seizure of Afghanistan

    Taliban seized $85B worth of American weapons│Soloviev about Afghanistan with an interview with Shoigu

    Kabul: Pentagon strike. US soldiers: heavy fire on the crowd.

    https://youtu.be/7uH7GWB71P8
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:39 pm

    According to this, Joe Biden, and his Administration, is killing friends, and innocent civilians!

    How the mighty have fallen.

    I am heartbroken for innocent civilians, and what is happening.


    Muslim Shirzad
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    Kabul-U.S. rocket attack:

    I just spoke with family members, 9 people killed (Zamaray 40, Naseer 30, Zameer 20, Faisal 10, Farzad 9, Armin 4, Benyamin 3, Ayat 2 and Sumaya 2 years old)

    “We are not IS-K, world should hear us” a family member to me

    Pics: Zamaray, Naseer & Sumaya


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    Footage: Kabul-U.S. rocket attack

    9 people, including 6 children killed. I want to confirm with complete responsibility, they were not members of IS-K.

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    Kabul-U.S rocket attack:

    Zamaray Ahmadi an interpreter with American troops in Afghanistan, Naseer Nejrabi an army officer, Faisal a student, Armin and Benyameen, killed with 4 other members of a family. Nasser's wedding was scheduled for tomorrow.

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    Muslim Shirzad
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    Moments ago I spoke with Mangal, son of colonel Dad Gul Toryalai, commander of the Military Training Center in Kabul under the #Ghani government. “Taliban on 26th of August came to our house and killed my father.” He said with sorrow face
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:14 pm

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    U.S. military says this morning that it struck a vehicle in Kabul presenting an "imminent" threat by the Islamic State to Kabul airport. Significant secondary explosions reported, indicating a likely suicide bomber.
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    U.S. defense official says that the U.S. has carried out only one strike today, on a vehicle. Official says it is possible damage to a nearby building or buildings occurred following secondary explosion.

    Taliban report that a rocket hit a building may be conflating the two.
    10:54 AM · Aug 29, 2021·Twitter for Android
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    Same official adds that it is not clear whether the U.S. strike in Kabul today hit what could have been a car bomber, or a suicide vest bomber inside the vehicle. Either way, threat to airport and U.S. troops there was considered imminent.
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    Maybe they should release the video so we can see who's telling the truth.
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:17 pm

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    Dad Mohanmad is the brother Inlaw of Qadir Fitrat former deputy head of intelligence for Takhar for military affairs, Taliban district Governor for Farkhar Mullah Najeeb beat him up. Taliban district Governor beat him up.” Relatives and family members of Daad Mohammad tells me.


    Takhar

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    Taliban shoot and kills an Afghan man in Kabul with PK machine gun for trying to avoid check point.


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    Taliban shot dead a young man in Shahar now area of Kabul. Local journalists say, Taliban had told him stop, when he did not stop his car then the Taliban shot him by PK machine gun.
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:42 pm

    As far as I can tell, there was one strike and it hit both a car and a residence, killing innocent civilians.


    Charles Lister
    Information like this would certainly seem to suggest that the US air strike today was conducted at least partially in concert (based on shared intelligence) with the Taliban:

    APNewsAlert: KABUL, Afghanistan (@AP) - Taliban spokesman says a US airstrike targeted a suicide bomber in a vehicle who wanted to strike Kabul airport.

    NEW -- the more info comes out, the more Qs are arising about today's U.S. strike in Kabul -- 8 civilians reportedly killed, including an ANDSF officer & a former U.S. interpreter.


    No major explosion, despite U.S. claim of multiple suicide vests hit in single vehicle.

    ALLEGEDLY:

    1.The US drone strike blew up a vehicle carrying “multiple suicide bombers” from Afghanistan’s Islamic State affiliate

    2.In what appeared to be a separate incident on Sunday, a rocket struck a neighbourhood just At around the same time as the drone strike, Afghan police said a rocket hit a neighbourhood near the airport, killing a child. The Taliban described the drone strike and the rocket attack as separate incidents, but AP reporters in the Afghan capital heard only one large blast. west of the airport, killing a child, an Afghan police chief told The Associated Press.


    it's really hard to get any facts, there was 2 strikes, one on a car, and one hit a residential house, but Biden Admin is saying they only hit car

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    NEW: US official confirms 2 suicide bombers were in explosive laden vehicle targeted by US drone strike today. The vehicle targeted by the US drone was parked when the drone struck. Airstrike occurred about 3 km from the Kabul Airport. The drone flew out of UAE.
    US military is assessing whether there were civilian casualties after airstrike which took place in Kabul neighborhood. No indications at this time, BUT that could change. There were secondary explosions due to large amount of explosives in vehicle.

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    Kabul-U.S. rocket attack:
    I just spoke with family members, 9 people killed (Zamaray 40, Naseer 30, Zameer 20, Faisal 10, Farzad 9, Armin 4, Benyamin 3, Ayat 2 and Sumaya 2 years old)
    “We are not IS-K, world should hear us” a family member to me
    Pics: Zamaray, Naseer & Sumaya
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    Footage: Kabul-U.S. rocket attack
    9 people, including 6 children killed. I want to confirm with complete responsibility, they were not members of IS-K.
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    Kabul-U.S rocket attack:
    Zamaray Ahmadi an interpreter with American troops in Afghanistan, Naseer Nejrabi an army officer, Faisal a student, Armin and Benyameen, killed with 4 other members of a family. Nasser's wedding was scheduled for tomorrow.


    Okay, the vehicle targeted was parked, and here is the photo, parked next to a house.



    U.S. drone strike destroys Islamic State car bomb in Kabul, officials say

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-carried-out-military-strike-kabul-officials-say-2021-08-29/?fbclid=IwAR3R9oe-H_hE-e-4mQJoebV-MI097-gGCBXf9K6MExwkyTm25-Q7FCuyQ40




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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:46 pm

    Posted as if happened today, not sure

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    Source from Andarab: ResistanceForces that had made a tactical retreat from Andarab towards Khawak Pass near to Panjshir, was being followed by the Taliban. Resistance Forces in Andarab surprised Taliban with a guerrila attack and killed dozens of the Taliban members.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:52 pm

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58356045

    It could be that the Talibs used the Americans to strike those holed up former regime men w/o risking themselves. It's not the 1st time different factions done it!
    If it's true, US reputation will be even more in the gutter!
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    Post  Gomig-21 Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:05 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58356045

    It could be that the Talibs used the Americans to strike those holed up former regime men w/o risking themselves. It's not the 1st time different factions done it!
    If it's true, US reputation will be even more in the gutter!  

    Honestly, not sure what the Taliban would gain from that? They want the Americans out of there and the last thing they want is US drones or B-52s dropping bombs all over the place trying to kill a bunch of Kabul ISIS.

    It would be more in the Taliban's favor to find these ISIS lunatics and destroy them themselves to assist the American's exit out of there since that is their ultimate goal. Last thing they would ever want is a new US tactic to put a hurt on Afghanis of all types including Taliban and let's not pretend the US can't do that from the air. That would set the Taliban back quite a bit. This new ISIS dipshits are not in the Taliban's favor whatsoever.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:15 am

    They know the US is leaving no matter what, so why not use them in a false flag set up?
    Or it could be it was indeed ISIS bomber they killed but those others just happened to be nearby.
    But it was stupid to strike a parked car, supposedly full of explosives, in a residential area, instead of waiting for it to move towards the airport.
    Killing civilians as a parting shot isn't something to be proud of.
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    Post  Gomig-21 Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:42 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:They know the US is leaving no matter what, so why not use them in a false flag set up?
    Or it could be it was indeed ISIS bomber they killed but those others just happened to be nearby.
    But it was stupid to strike a parked car, supposedly full of explosives, in a residential area, instead of waiting for it to move towards the airport.
    Killing civilians as a parting shot isn't something to be proud of.

    I agree, the only problem I have is the double standard.  How many poor Afghans did those filthy ISIS scum kill when they killed 11 US Marines and a medic I think was the 12th, was it 145 total?  Yet the US gets hacked to pieces the second they kill 8 in an attempt that actually probably saved another 100 Afghans.  The one way street is so steep it's tough to navigate.  

    But you might be right that they should've waited for it to move towards the airport but that certainly wouldn't have guaranteed any less innocent casualties and perhaps they saw this as a better option.


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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:43 am

    Earlier reports put the number of casualties at six, including four children. Four more civilians were reportedly wounded. According to reports, a suicide bomber, whose car was the target of the strike, is among the casualties.

    According to coming reports, the US drone strike destroyed two vehicles and partially ruined a dwelling house. According to the US side, the strike targeted a car of a suicide bomber who planned to attack Kabul airport. Al Jazeera reported that the strike was followed by secondary blasts of explosives inside the car.

    According to Afghan media, the incident occurred in a Kabul neighborhood adjacent to the airport’s runway.

    Meanwhile, CNN said citing a source in Pentagon that according to the US side there were no casualties among civilians.


    https://tass.com/emergencies/1331487



    US drone strike on ISIS-K suicide bombers in Kabul also kills three children and other civilians in their home after it sets off explosives packed into jihadists' cars - as Taliban says it WELCOMES the American missile attack against terror group

    Three children were killed in US military strike against ISIS-K militants planning attack on Kabul airport

    Drone strike on vehicle carrying explosives caused secondary blast believed to have killed others

    Three children were killed in a US drone strike targeting 'multiple suicide bombers' planning an attack on Kabul's evacuation airport - just hours after Joe Biden warned of the possibility of another jihadist atrocity following this week's attack.

    Witnesses said a rocket strike blew up two cars parked outside a residential building near the Hamid Karzai airport to the north of Afghanistan's capital. It is believed the vehicles were going to be used in an 'imminent' attack by ISIS-K militants.

    The strike on the vehicles, filled with explosives, is then believed to have caused a secondary blast, killing and wounding several civilians.



    Ahmaduddin, a neighbor, said he had collected the bodies of children after the strike, which set off more explosions inside the house.

    There were earlier reports of a possible separate incident in which it was claimed a child had been killed in a rocket strike on a house near to the airport. It has since emerged this is the same event.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9937557/Explosion-near-Kabul-airport-rocket-hits-house.html
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    Post  Gomig-21 Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:54 am

    ISIS-K! What a bunch of scum-sucking hogs! There's a great job opportunity for the Taliban to show good will and test all those new American weapons they got for free. Start taking out these scum of the earth who call themselves ISIS-K and want a share of what the Taliban thinks it owns all to itself. They better get rid of them themselves before the US unleashes hell that will cause the Taliban to run to the hills again, or maybe back into Pakistan!

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:02 am

    In Afghanistan, (or anywhere I guess) how do you know who is your enemy?!  Could 2 of these persons been ISIS-K?

    This Muslim Shirzad is the only person saying they are not, was not ISIS-K. He said they are originally from Panjsher.

    But I can not figure out his motive why he said so.

    Why Afghan NDS Arrested Afghan Journalist Muslim Shirzad
    October 1, 2019Written By: Sajjad Shauka

    An Afghan journalist named Muslim Shirzad has been arrested by Afghan National Directorate of Security (NDS) for his alleged negative remarks contrary to Afghanistan government’s official stance. According to Afghan media, the journalist during telephonic conversation in a talk show on September 9, 2019 telecast on Pakistan’s Aaj News TV with Muniza Jehangir, stated: “Afghanistan is not an independent country at present and is an occupied state”. He also justified ongoing armed resistance of Taliban and said: “Afghanistan in collaboration with India is promoting militancy in Pakistan…Afghan security forces are unprofessional and involved in crimes against humanity”.
    According to Afghan National Security Council spokesman Kabir Haqmal the said “journalist has been repeatedly warned for his negative stance of propagating positive approach about Taliban and Pakistan. His statement in Pakistani media is against the interest of Afghanistan and is also contradictory to the principles of journalism”.

    Muslim Shirzad is a Tajik journalist who hails from Kabul. He is quite influential and son-in-law of Ustad Atta Mohammad Noor, Ex-governor of Balkh province.




    Nonetheless, arrest of the Afghan journalist Muslim Shirzad by the NDS indicates that this Afghan intelligence agency is new connivance with Indian RAW to continue blame game against Pakistan and to weaken the latter through propaganda and terror attacks.

    https://www.theworldbeast.com/why-afghan-nds-arrested-afghan-journalist-muslim-shirzad.html


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    9 killed by U.S rocket attack today in Kabul, who are they?

    1: Zemaray, Interpreter
    2: Naseer, Army officer
    2: Zameer, Shopkeeper
    4: Faisal, Student
    5: Farzad, Student
    6: Ayat, 2 years old
    7: Sumaya, 2 years old
    8: Armin, 4 years old
    9: Binyamen, 3 years old
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    CENTCOM investigating reported civilian casualties after drone strike on ISIS-K suicide vehicle

    A U.S. drone strike blew up a vehicle carrying “multiple suicide bombers” from Afghanistan’s Islamic State affiliate on Sunday before they could attack the ongoing military evacuation at Kabul’s international airport, American officials said. An Afghan official said three children were killed in the strike.

    U.S. Central Command is aware of the reports of civilian casualties and is “assessing the results of the strike, which we know disrupted an imminent ISIS-K threat to the airport.” Navy Capt. Bill Urban, CENTCOM spokesman, said in a statement Sunday evening. “We know that there were substantial and powerful subsequent explosions resulting from the destruction of the vehicle, indicating a large amount of explosive material inside that may have caused additional casualties. It is unclear what may have happened, and we are investigating further.

    Taliban promises safe passage

    The U.S. State Department released a statement signed by around 100 countries, as well as NATO and the European Union, saying they had received “assurances” from the Taliban that people with travel documents would still be able to leave the country. The Taliban have said they will allow normal travel after the U.S. withdrawal is completed on Tuesday and they assume control of the airport.

    https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/afghanistan/2021/08/29/centcom-investigating-reported-civilian-casualties-after-drone-strike-on-isis-k-suicide-vehicle/
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:09 am

    Gomig-21 wrote:ISIS-K!  What a bunch of scum-sucking hogs!  There's a great job opportunity for the Taliban to show good will and test all those new American weapons they got for free.
    It would be safer & less bloody if Biden didn't need to silence his opponents & let the Talibs deal with it 1st. I mean they could send their fighters or SF to evacuate residents & machine gun the car, if not shoot RPGs at it.
    The US been bombing them for 20 years & still couldn't defeat them.
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:58 am

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    Taliban has disconnected internet and mobile call/text services in Panjshir Valley of Afghanistan so that Northern Alliance Resistance Force led by Amrullah Saleh and Ahmad Massoud do not tweet or share their updates and views on social media.

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    Taliban’s brutality Must Stop. His name was Paiman, 22, a sportsman and a tailor. He was coming home to Andarab from a neighboring province when he was taken at a Taliban’s checkpoint and brutally executed on the side of the road. His crime. Being Andarabi. killings must stop.







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    Reports of up between 2 and 6 Afghans killed at the Torkham border crossing with Pakistan after Pakistani border guards opened fire.
    9:58 AM · Aug 27, 2021·Twitter for Android

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    yesterday someone shot and killed a pakistani border guard so yep, they're not going to take chances...

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:04 am

    Taliban seeking to worsen humanitarian situation in Panjshir - source
    Fahim Dashti, spokesman for the resistance movement, told TASS on Thursday that an agreement on cessation of hostilities with the Taliban was only being negotiated

    CAIRO, August 29. /TASS/. The Taliban movement (outlawed in Russia), which has seized power in Afghanistan, is seeking to aggravate the humanitarian situation in the northern province of Panjshir that is refusing to recognize the Taliban, a source in the region told TASS on Sunday.

    "The humanitarian situation in Panjshir is stable so far, but the Taliban are seeking to worsen it. They are blocking access to the state-run electricity supplies system. So far, there is enough electricity here, which is generated thanks to local rivers," the source said.

    Apart from that, according to the source, the Taliban have switched the region off the national telecommunications system and have partially blocked mobile internet. "Moreover, the Taliban sometimes block roads leading to the province. There are risks that they will block food and fuels supplies, as they did in the [neighboring] Baghlan province," he noted.

    https://tass.com/world/1331509
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:48 am

    Washington's Behavior: Losing the War Is Miserable
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKcIyo5P9sU

    Biden lied at least twice https://youtu.be/1c1yXWQVodI

    "They violated the sovereignty." Taliban condemn US airstrike in Kabul
    https://nv.ua/world/geopolitics/taliban-osudil-ssha-za-aviaudar-v-kabule-poslednie-novosti-50180056.html

    Now they r in the position of strength to say this.
    I expect the US to continue strikes on ISIS-K even after 8/31.
    If the Masoud & other resistance forces don't capitulate, the US may assist them too.


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    Multiple rockets fired at Kabul airport, intercepted by defense system -U.S. official

    WASHINGTON, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Multiple rockets were fired at Kabul's international airport but were intercepted by a missile defense system, a U.S. official told Reuters citing initial information.

    The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said as many as 5 rockets were fired, though it was not clear if all were brought down by the defense system.

    The official said initial reports did not indicate any U.S. casualties, but that information could change.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/multiple-rockets-fired-kabul-airport-intercepted-by-defense-system-us-official-2021-08-30/
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    Forth Footage-Rockets were fired through this car in Kabul




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    Residents in Kabul’s Arya Township “ Rockets were fired towards the Hamid Karzai international airport but exploded in the air and shrapnel’s fell like drops of rain on Arya township.”





    Kandy Zabka
    @Kkzahu
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    @TimInHonolulu

    Looks like stuff used in Syria by ISIS, doesn't it?



    Kashmir Intel
    @kashmirosint
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    This could be the standard rocket attack by ISKP, multiple 107-mm rockets launched from a remotely triggered launcher-tube mounted on an abandoned vehicle. ISKP has used this method to attack Bagram AB and other targets in Kabul multiple times in last two years.


    Primary  report
    Rockets were fired from a vehicle on kabulairport and repelled by the Kabul airfield defense system.
    They were fired from Aspha Square Near the Airport.

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