Big_Gazza wrote:... Neocon jews and ex-Soviet dissident jews in the US are certainly the main reservoir of Russophobia in the US government and private ThinkTankLand influencers. Their hatred of Russia is eternal and bone-deep. Relations with the US (and thereby Yoo-rope) won't improve until these hate-filled racist vermin are removed from any positions of influence.
Main reservoir of Russophobia are descendants of white European immigrants who run the show in Washington (more specifically 19th century Poles and Germans and 20th century Balts and Ukrainians) and whield disproportionate amount of power
Relations will improve once Whites in USA become a minority of population and political power is transferred to Blacks, Hispanics and Arabs
It's gradually happening already, just a couple of decades more and all problems will be solved
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George1 wrote:the religion is the cause. Consider that even for Ukraine they were part of polish-lithuanian commonwealth so they have been influenced from catholic administration. On the contrary belarus wasnt influenced
If religion is the cause, how do you explain the antagonistic stance that Bulgaria, Georgia, Moldova, Montenegro, Macedonia and Romania (all orthodox christian) have taken against Russia long before the Ukraine war started?
except montenegro the other arent slavic populations. Proto-Bulgarians were a thracian population and then Bulgars a turkic tribe that were slavificised. I though the discussion was about the hostility of slavic nations towards russia
George1 wrote:the religion is the cause. Consider that even for Ukraine they were part of polish-lithuanian commonwealth so they have been influenced from catholic administration. On the contrary belarus wasnt influenced
If religion is the cause, how do you explain the antagonistic stance that Bulgaria, Georgia, Moldova, Montenegro, Macedonia and Romania (all orthodox christian) have taken against Russia long before the Ukraine war started?
except montenegro the other arent slavic populations. Proto-Bulgarians were a thracian population and then Bulgars a turkic tribe that were slavificised. I though the discussion was about the hostility of slavic nations towards russia
Not to forget then anybody, from Washington to Brussels to most of the political parties in those countries blame the shitty 90´s and 70 years of "communism" on Russia/the russian people.
You lost your job in the 90´s? Russia´s fault.
Now Russia is even to blame for the high inflation in the west, Biden falling from his bike or Trump getting re-elected.
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George1 wrote:the religion is the cause. Consider that even for Ukraine they were part of polish-lithuanian commonwealth so they have been influenced from catholic administration. On the contrary belarus wasnt influenced
If religion is the cause, how do you explain the antagonistic stance that Bulgaria, Georgia, Moldova, Montenegro, Macedonia and Romania (all orthodox christian) have taken against Russia long before the Ukraine war started?
except montenegro the other arent slavic populations. Proto-Bulgarians were a thracian population and then Bulgars a turkic tribe that were slavificised. I though the discussion was about the hostility of slavic nations towards russia
I have to answer to this statement. According to latest genetic research of Y chromosome, Montenegrian, Muslim (Bosniak) and North Macedonian genes are identical to Serbian genes. 100 years ago, those 3 nations were Serbs, as we are, but German and British strategists succeded in their intention to split our nation. So, they are all Slavs and there is a genetic proof for that.
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thegopnik wrote:some have produced the best scientific minds like serbia and russia, some want to be retards like croats, poles and ukrainians, and some just want to live peaceful lives like czechs and slobaks
Czechs???? What have they ever produced? Third world countries of Asia have produced more scientific minds than Czechs.
kvs wrote:OT but relevant for the subject of this thread.
A lot of the Slavic ethnic groups have an inferiority complex regarding Russia. It explains the compulsion to antagonize Russia and crawl up the west's ass. The origin of this complex is hard to frame. It seems to be related to the Catholic vs. Orthodox schism which resulted in the usual pattern of regime change and hate baiting. The Czechs and the Poles are good examples of this but the schism is not enough to explain it. Even though in Ukraine the western Banderite nationalism has its roots in the Catholic drang nach osten and involves the Uniates and Polish occupation, the propagation of this nationalism into regions not subject to this historical distortion implies another process.
I think that for Ukraine its ongoing failure after 1990 has been one of the pillars for the spread of Banderite derangement. It is very popular in Ukraine to swallow the BS that things are worse in Russia. This has not been the case at any stage including the 1990s. But it shows the inferiority complex. The inferiority does not have to be conscious, it can be subconscious and Ukrainians have to have some sense deep down that their country is a shithole. The frenzied rush to U-rope and all the "Ukraina tse Evropa" is driven by losers who cannot cope with their failure.
Ukrainian national self-identity and the movement for certainly at first, it's autonomy - kicked into motion following the outbreak of the revolts against Tsarist rule in 1861 Congress Poland. Polish agitation about the desire to witness the rebirth of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth (now with a third place for the Ukraine as the Commonwealth had once attempted to do) found purchase even in Kiev, which was a Russian-speaking city back then as well. Ukrainian nationalism was never limited to just the Banderite West. But at the same time it was never all out antagonistic in Kiev or the greater part of the Ukraine that was part of Tsarist Russia. The Ukrainian national intelligencia was mostly just looking for expanded language rights and some form of autonomy, they weren't actually interested in separating or anything radical. All the more so the eastern parts of the Ukraine had little in terms of national consciousness at all, and no antipathy towards Russia. You can think of the Ukraine back then, or indeed throughout the Soviet period too - as what Belarus is to Russia today. i.e. a slightly different identity but basically completely benign relations with Russia and Russians; to the point where you can barely differentiate where one country begins and the other ends.
George1 wrote:the religion is the cause. Consider that even for Ukraine they were part of polish-lithuanian commonwealth so they have been influenced from catholic administration. On the contrary belarus wasnt influenced
If religion is the cause, how do you explain the antagonistic stance that Bulgaria, Georgia, Moldova, Montenegro, Macedonia and Romania (all orthodox christian) have taken against Russia long before the Ukraine war started?
Those countries are all controlled by oligarchs with assets in the West that then convince their populations into worshiping the EU just as they do in return for its money and open doors for working there.
It's not actually very complicated. Yes there is the historical factor, the religious one, etc... but ultimately it comes down to what regimes have cemented themselves there, what their foreign policy priorities are, and why their own people follow their elites
George1 wrote:the religion is the cause. Consider that even for Ukraine they were part of polish-lithuanian commonwealth so they have been influenced from catholic administration. On the contrary belarus wasnt influenced
If religion is the cause, how do you explain the antagonistic stance that Bulgaria, Georgia, Moldova, Montenegro, Macedonia and Romania (all orthodox christian) have taken against Russia long before the Ukraine war started?
Those countries are all controlled by oligarchs with assets in the West that then convince their populations into worshiping the EU just as they do in return for its money and open doors for working there.
It's not actually very complicated. Yes there is the historical factor, the religious one, etc... but ultimately it comes down to what regimes have cemented themselves there, what their foreign policy priorities are, and why their own people follow their elites
Those countries have leaders that will stay in place only if they bring money to their people who are all poor to modern standards.
West can bring some investments and if they come into EU they will get stability at their borders. Russia may have better moral than the scum rulling the west but they don't really bring anything worth to those countries.
Those eastern countries if you exclude retards like Poland and baltic racists have no dumb ambitions but some economical goals. They just want normal lifes with good salaries.
Russia with its military won't be attractive to them. They need to come with investments.
Serbia for exemple has moral/religious ties with Russia but its german firms that give them jobs, not russians.
Russia can't really win this fight. They need to bring chinese investers with them to get sope support from those countries.
Moreover I would add they support the west as much as they supported USSR back in the days. Romanians IIRC had a pact with NATO back in the days to not fight WW3 with soviets if NATO doesn't attack their territory.
Not trustful, not needed and no need to spend time over them. What Russia can do with them is just increase economical ties to counter nato influence there and not expect anything from them.
Those eastern countries if you exclude retards like Poland and baltic racists have no dumb ambitions but some economical goals. They just want normal lifes with good salaries.
Russia with its military won't be attractive to them. They need to come with investments.
Serbia for exemple has moral/religious ties with Russia but its german firms that give them jobs, not russians.
Russia can't really win this fight. They need to bring chinese investers with them to get sope support from those countries.
Moreover I would add they support the west as much as they supported USSR back in the days. Romanians IIRC had a pact with NATO back in the days to not fight WW3 with soviets if NATO doesn't attack their territory.
Not trustful, not needed and no need to spend time over them. What Russia can do with them is just increase economical ties to counter nato influence there and not expect anything from them.
The Serbs will never sympathize with the Germans. It is not only an ethnic and religious link with the Russians but they know the role of the Germans in the destruction of Yugoslavia. Furthermore, in countries such as Hungary, Serbia or Romania, the populations continue to have conservative cultural values and know that proximity to Germany means its destruction. Betting on Germany is betting on immigration, multiculturalism, liberal values. Regarding German companies, we will see how long they remain competitive without the cheap energy. I agree with your idea that Russia brings joint investments with the Chinese. That is important.
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George1 wrote:the religion is the cause. Consider that even for Ukraine they were part of polish-lithuanian commonwealth so they have been influenced from catholic administration. On the contrary belarus wasnt influenced
If religion is the cause, how do you explain the antagonistic stance that Bulgaria, Georgia, Moldova, Montenegro, Macedonia and Romania (all orthodox christian) have taken against Russia long before the Ukraine war started?
except montenegro the other arent slavic populations. Proto-Bulgarians were a thracian population and then Bulgars a turkic tribe that were slavificised. I though the discussion was about the hostility of slavic nations towards russia
I have to answer to this statement. According to latest genetic research of Y chromosome, Montenegrian, Muslim (Bosniak) and North Macedonian genes are identical to Serbian genes. 100 years ago, those 3 nations were Serbs, as we are, but German and British strategists succeded in their intention to split our nation. So, they are all Slavs and there is a genetic proof for that.
so you admit that nort macedonian population are slavs and have no relation with alexander the great and ancient macedonians who were a greek race
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Big_Gazza wrote:... Neocon jews and ex-Soviet dissident jews in the US are certainly the main reservoir of Russophobia in the US government and private ThinkTankLand influencers. Their hatred of Russia is eternal and bone-deep. Relations with the US (and thereby Yoo-rope) won't improve until these hate-filled racist vermin are removed from any positions of influence.
Main reservoir of Russophobia are descendants of white European immigrants who run the show in Washington (more specifically 19th century Poles and Germans and 20th century Balts and Ukrainians) and whield disproportionate amount of power
Relations will improve once Whites in USA become a minority of population and political power is transferred to Blacks, Hispanics and Arabs
It's gradually happening already, just a couple of decades more and all problems will be solved
Well, you are wrong and it shows that you do not know the mestizo populations that immigrate to the United States. Let's see if you understand: Russia's potential ally is precisely the white populations of the South who vote for conservative parties and who can dialogue with a civilization like Russia. That's where Trump came from. Look at the attitude of Henry Kissinger, that although he is a shitty Jew, he is still a representative of the conservative old school. He has been careful about Russia. The great enemies of Russia are the mestizos, blacks, immigrants, Latinos who live on the liberal shores (controlled by the Jews) and who see the United States as a dream. It is true that they are going to dissolve the United States in the long term, but they are still an immediate danger and a driving force. And they occupy positions of political, military and economic power , in case you didn't notice. Or Obama, Kamala Harris are white? You should travel to New York and see the number of bastards who occupy managerial and business positions. Dude, multiculturalism and the great replacement didn't start last year but 40 years ago.
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Big_Gazza wrote:... Neocon jews and ex-Soviet dissident jews in the US are certainly the main reservoir of Russophobia in the US government and private ThinkTankLand influencers. Their hatred of Russia is eternal and bone-deep. Relations with the US (and thereby Yoo-rope) won't improve until these hate-filled racist vermin are removed from any positions of influence.
Main reservoir of Russophobia are descendants of white European immigrants who run the show in Washington (more specifically 19th century Poles and Germans and 20th century Balts and Ukrainians) and whield disproportionate amount of power
Relations will improve once Whites in USA become a minority of population and political power is transferred to Blacks, Hispanics and Arabs
It's gradually happening already, just a couple of decades more and all problems will be solved
Well, you are wrong and it shows that you do not know the mestizo populations that immigrate to the United States. Let's see if you understand: Russia's potential ally is precisely the white populations of the South who vote for conservative parties and who can dialogue with a civilization like Russia. That's where Trump came from. The great enemies of Russia are the mestizos, blacks, immigrants, Latinos who live on the liberal shores (controlled by the Jews) and who see the United States as a dream. It is true that they are going to dissolve the United States in the long term, but they are still an immediate danger and a driving force. And they occupy positions of political, military and economic power , in case you didn't notice. Or Obama, Kamala Harris are white? You should travel to New York and see the number of bastards who occupy managerial and business positions. Dude, multiculturalism and the great replacement didn't start last year but 40 years ago.
Proponents of the "Great Replacement Theory" point to the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 sponsored by Senators Ted Kennedy and Jacob Javitz as the catalyst for demographic change in America. 57 years ago to be exact.
Proponents of the "Great Replacement Theory" point to the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 sponsored by Senators Ted Kennedy and Jacob Javitz as the catalyst for demographic change in America. 57 years ago to be exact.
An Irish Catholic and a Jew, what a coincidence! I am a Catholic nationalist in Argentina, but to the southern friends (protestants and patriots) of the United States I give them every reason about the damage that has been done to Catholicism in the United States, especially led by Irish and Poles. Not so the Italians who have behaved better.
The Serbs will never sympathize with the Germans. It is not only an ethnic and religious link with the Russians but they know the role of the Germans in the destruction of Yugoslavia. Furthermore, in countries such as Hungary, Serbia or Romania, the populations continue to have conservative cultural values and know that proximity to Germany means its destruction. Betting on Germany is betting on immigration, multiculturalism, liberal values. Regarding German companies, we will see how long they remain competitive without the cheap energy. I agree with your idea that Russia brings joint investments with the Chinese. That is important.
Serbs are fleeing in mass in germany since the yugo wars. They aren't going to Russia.
They want money.
German companies will be hit by issues with energy supply but it will be solved. Germans have the strongest companies in the world and hard workers you can't take that away from them. Even after the WW2 destruction they quickly became the leaders of european industry.
And contrary to most european countries they have real multi billion companies and not some dumb consulting firms that make billions only thanks to government taxes that are given to them for bullshit jobs (france is a leader in that field).
Isos wrote:German companies will be hit by issues with energy supply but it will be solved. Germans have the strongest companies in the world and hard workers you can't take that away from them. Even after the WW2 destruction they quickly became the leaders of european industry.
And contrary to most european countries they have real multi billion companies and not some dumb consulting firms that make billions only thanks to government taxes that are given to them for bullshit jobs (france is a leader in that field).
Hah. No. What will they replace the Russian energy with? Germany is ran by green fundamentalists who do not want nuclear power. They will use more expensive energy mostly from the Middle East and USA. You cannot make omelets without eggs. German heavy industry will be gone. Most heavy industry in Europe will move to Turkey. The Turks have cheap access to gas and soon nuclear power. Some industry might also move to Egypt.
French heavy industry will cope better than German one because they have the nuclear power. But the current government are a bunch of retards so I doubt it will go anywhere with them in charge.
Europe will just stick with luxury goods which require low energy inputs and mostly specialized labor. They will do final assembly of things where the high energy inputs come from elsewhere. Instead of making cars they will assemble cars made with parts manufactured elsewhere.
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The Serbs will never sympathize with the Germans. It is not only an ethnic and religious link with the Russians but they know the role of the Germans in the destruction of Yugoslavia. Furthermore, in countries such as Hungary, Serbia or Romania, the populations continue to have conservative cultural values and know that proximity to Germany means its destruction. Betting on Germany is betting on immigration, multiculturalism, liberal values. Regarding German companies, we will see how long they remain competitive without the cheap energy. I agree with your idea that Russia brings joint investments with the Chinese. That is important.
Serbs are fleeing in mass in germany since the yugo wars. They aren't going to Russia.
They want money.
German companies will be hit by issues with energy supply but it will be solved. Germans have the strongest companies in the world and hard workers you can't take that away from them. Even after the WW2 destruction they quickly became the leaders of european industry.
And contrary to most european countries they have real multi billion companies and not some dumb consulting firms that make billions only thanks to government taxes that are given to them for bullshit jobs (france is a leader in that field).
Germany recovered by the Marshall Plan financed by the United States. Given the damage that Germany did they should have been transformed into a rural country but they needed an axis to contain the Soviet Union. That of the German companies is a stupid myth. First of all, in Europe you have many industrial companies. French and Italians have their own (Peugeot, Renault, the multinational FIAT, etc). The Germans benefit from the European Union and because they have had cheap energy from Russia for decades. They don't have it anymore. Also this happened when Europe was not growing economically, imagine now. They are going to have a recession. I can't believe that there are people who believe that "Germans are workers" when they are a mix of Turks and Poles. They stayed in the 50's. Germany is going to follow Japan, a recessive country and staking. But worse, because at least the Japanese are still Japanese
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ArgentinaGuard wrote:Germany recovered by the Marshall Plan financed by the United States. Given the damage that Germany did they should have been transformed into a rural country but they needed an axis to contain the Soviet Union. That of the German companies is a stupid myth. First of all, in Europe you have many industrial companies. French and Italians have their own (Peugeot, Renault, the multinational FIAT, etc). The Germans benefit from the European Union and because they have had cheap energy from Russia for decades. They don't have it anymore. Also this happened when Europe was not growing economically, imagine now. They are going to have a recession. I can't believe that there are people who believe that "Germans are workers" when they are a mix of Turks and Poles. They stayed in the 50's.
Germany has been continuously de-industrialized ever since the 1990s. They can do less now than they could back then. All the industries which could move out did. They went to Eastern Europe where labor was cheaper. They have a car industry, but like you said, so has France and Italy. South Korea has largely displaced them in the value car market as well. The higher end of the car market is moving towards electrics and the Germans are laggards in the field. The Germans never properly moved up the product chain. The joke of Siemens having to send its turbines to repair in Canada is one manifestation of that.
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George1 wrote: so you admit that nort macedonian population are slavs and have no relation with alexander the great and ancient macedonians who were a greek race
There's nothing to admit as Serbs never claimed the opposite. Most Macedonians will also laugh at that notion. Project of adopting Alexander the Great was just a failed attempt of nation building by ex regime in Macedonia.
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ArgentinaGuard wrote:Germany recovered by the Marshall Plan financed by the United States. Given the damage that Germany did they should have been transformed into a rural country but they needed an axis to contain the Soviet Union. That of the German companies is a stupid myth. First of all, in Europe you have many industrial companies. French and Italians have their own (Peugeot, Renault, the multinational FIAT, etc). The Germans benefit from the European Union and because they have had cheap energy from Russia for decades. They don't have it anymore. Also this happened when Europe was not growing economically, imagine now. They are going to have a recession. I can't believe that there are people who believe that "Germans are workers" when they are a mix of Turks and Poles. They stayed in the 50's.
Germany has been continuously de-industrialized ever since the 1990s. They can do less now than they could back then. All the industries which could move out did. They went to Eastern Europe where labor was cheaper. They have a car industry, but like you said, so has France and Italy. South Korea has largely displaced them in the value car market as well. The higher end of the car market is moving towards electrics and the Germans are laggards in the field. The Germans never properly moved up the product chain. The joke of Siemens having to send its turbines to repair in Canada is one manifestation of that.
the great bet of the Germans was to stay with the Ukraine to continue having a market, resources and cheap labor, that is no longer possible with the Russian bear in the middle.
Big_Gazza wrote:... Neocon jews and ex-Soviet dissident jews in the US are certainly the main reservoir of Russophobia in the US government and private ThinkTankLand influencers. Their hatred of Russia is eternal and bone-deep. Relations with the US (and thereby Yoo-rope) won't improve until these hate-filled racist vermin are removed from any positions of influence.
Main reservoir of Russophobia are descendants of white European immigrants who run the show in Washington (more specifically 19th century Poles and Germans and 20th century Balts and Ukrainians) and whield disproportionate amount of power
Relations will improve once Whites in USA become a minority of population and political power is transferred to Blacks, Hispanics and Arabs
It's gradually happening already, just a couple of decades more and all problems will be solved
Ethnic Poles never had any voice in the governing of the U.S.A.
Can you mention even a single 19th century Pole who was a very high-ranking U.S. government official?
Not even one.
U.S.A. was always ruled by the Anglo-Saxons, or should we rather say the Anglo-British?
ArgentinaGuard wrote:I understand that in the Baltic countries the SS is honored. They do it as a way of provoking Russia, not because they adhere to the national socialist doctrine. I don't know if it was Latvia or Estonia. I don't understand why Europe has so many "shitty countries" (I take a phrase from my friend Trump)
I've spent a lot of time in all three Baltic countries.
The only one that has that real Nazi vibe, in my opinion, is Latvia. Like, it's not immediately noticeable on the surface but they're the ones who hold annual marches in honor of their SS collaborators in public, they're the ones who desecrate Jewish memorials, and you won't believe the racist s**t you hear there.
I know a great deal of fantastic people from Latvia though, so it's not everyone that suffer from 1940s Nazi brain rot, but many do. Thing is, I can sort of see where they are coming from, or rather, what the reason for this misguided crap is. Brief taste of independence after having been occupied by Russia and Sweden back and forth for hundreds of years. Then that indy spell was interrupted by the USSR as WW2 began, and they started seeing the Nazis as "liberators" as they attacked the prior occupants. That's pretty much it.
Of course, the irony is that without the Latvian riflemen being Bolshevik muscle, the USSR probably wouldn't even have existed in the first place. And as extra irony, the Nazis would have eventually started exterminating them one way or another (forced labor, deportation, mass murder) since they were in the way of GPO in the long run.
Anyway, kind of off-topic (though UA "Banderists" are strikingly similar)
And the first ever Red Army general was a Latvian, and the only "more significant" indigenous Soviet partisan movement in the Baltic republics was in Latvia.
I think now they are trying to make up for it with their silly SS marches, to try to cover up their other pro-Bolshevik/Soviet past.
Yes, this is the most striking irony. Without Latvian pro-Bolshevik sentiments (incl the infamous riflemen I mentioned, who dealt crushing blows on the white armies), perhaps the USSR would not even have come into being.
And the "similar" part is both yes and no. Both try to worship their SS-men, but Ukrainians have at least a genuine claim to a Germanic Varangian ancestry, whereas the Latvians only can claim to have been raped by the German crusaders.
Even in Canada the Ukrainians are more liked than the other Eastern Europeans, perhaps with the exception of the Hungarians.
http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html
Right, but it's complicated. The Rurik dynasty (Varangian, so Scandinavian/Germanic) took rule in Ladoga, soon therafter Novgorod, but people in these lands were chiefly Slavic (Ilmen slavs) and Finnic. Lots of mixing of Slavic, Finnic and Scandinavian occured here. When the Rurik dynasty moved southward down the Dnepr they encountered some village named "Kii" inhabited by other Slavs (I guess we'd call them Poles, more or less) and people of Turkic/Iranian ancestry (Khazars etc).
Better located than prior cities, the village became the new Rus capital, Kiev.
Goes on like this, lots of folks from everywhere. But anyway, if the bloodline of the rulers matter, then it is a given that Moscow is the capital of all Rus. The last Rurik heir ruled over and died in Moscow, his capital. If Ukrainians are larping about this, let them do it, but if they allege they have something to do with Rus, then they should swear allegiance to whoever rules Moscow.
Insert totally sincere trollface.
Do not make the Ukrainians into "Slavs" that they are really not.
When the mostly Eastern Slavic Rurikid forces took Kiev it was a Varangian stronghold ruled by upstart Varangian puppets of the Khazars and/or the Hungarians (Askold & Dir).
Even the much later Ukrainian Zaporozhian Cossacks were essentially a continuation of the earlier Varangian traditions.
Rurik himself might have been Finnish, genetic tests apparently proved that.
Real Slavs are people like ethnic Poles.
some have produced the best scientific minds like serbia and russia, some want to be retards like croats, poles and ukrainians, and some just want to live peaceful lives like czechs and slobaks
That map is wrong in so many ways.
The "Eastern Slavs" extend deep into south-eastern Poland, where they were never found to begin with.
And what happened to the Western Slavic Lendzians? And Lahs?
Erased out of this silly map because their existence was too inconvenient to the map maker(s)?
Keep in mind that the Lendzians are universally considered as one of the major proto-Polish tribes, on par with the Vislans and Mazovians, both of whom are mentioned on the map. The fact that the Lendzians are left out means that it is an intentional manipulation on the part of the map-maker(s).
But the authors had to make much of south-eastern Poland into fictional "Eastern Slavic" territory, so that is why the Lendzians and the Lahs were not shown on it.
Clever.
And there are other mistakes, errors, and falsifications, like that Transylvania was a Western Slavic territory, inhabited by the Polabian Slavs. You can read a Yugoslav-published book about it by Relja Novakovic, and obviously this is not some sort of Polish propaganda but real historical research.
Oh, the map also does not show it.
And also southern Podlasie in north-eastern Poland was originally Western Slavic territory, and the Slavs in present-day Germany extended more to the west than shown on this map, in the north all the way to Hamburg and Bremen.
And what about the Pannonian Slavs of Moravian and Slovak origin?
In Greece Slavic settlement extended all the way to the Peloponessus, and even western Crete.
There was even some Slavic settlement in north-western Anatolia, and north-eastern Italy.
It would have definitely gone down in history alongside all those airplanes... in flaming fireballs It would have been a perfect cherry on top of the worst military plan ever conceived Someone wanted to serve all those Russian corpses to Kiev on a silver platter
First off , the plan wasn't the problem. The problem was that Russia thought it had a deal with some generals and mayors inside Ukraine. Turns out all of these ppl were secretly in the pay of the United States. Yet again the Russians trusted someone.
Hence the fuckup and the main problem with the whole misbegotten plan
When your plan hinges on pinky promise of some corrupt apes then it's hardly a plan is it?
Backman wrote:Russia should have known that something was off considering how sure the US was that Russia was to attAck.
Everyone and their grandma knew that the whole thing is bullshit but Russians still went full retard
Backman wrote:...Anyway Russia is playing far to nice in this war still. Especially considering this betrayal.
The Serbs will never sympathize with the Germans. It is not only an ethnic and religious link with the Russians but they know the role of the Germans in the destruction of Yugoslavia. Furthermore, in countries such as Hungary, Serbia or Romania, the populations continue to have conservative cultural values and know that proximity to Germany means its destruction. Betting on Germany is betting on immigration, multiculturalism, liberal values. Regarding German companies, we will see how long they remain competitive without the cheap energy. I agree with your idea that Russia brings joint investments with the Chinese. That is important.
Serbs are fleeing in mass in germany since the yugo wars. They aren't going to Russia.
They want money.
German companies will be hit by issues with energy supply but it will be solved. Germans have the strongest companies in the world and hard workers you can't take that away from them. Even after the WW2 destruction they quickly became the leaders of european industry.
And contrary to most european countries they have real multi billion companies and not some dumb consulting firms that make billions only thanks to government taxes that are given to them for bullshit jobs (france is a leader in that field).
I read/heard that there are German companies that are demanding that the government give them tax breaks and funds to keep a float or they will be forced to shut down.
I think there is a good chance that by the end of the summer, the German government may collapse, the Green Party is running Germany right into the ground and setting it on a path of deindustrialization.
Germany should have stayed out of the Ukraine war, it has cost Germany a lot, Germany maybe the 2nd biggest loser of the Ukraine war after Ukraine.
ArgentinaGuard wrote:The great enemies of Russia are the mestizos, blacks, immigrants, Latinos who live on the liberal shores (controlled by the Jews)...
So now Jews control mestizos, blacks, immigrants and Latinos?
I thought they controlled the government?
You closeted Nazis need to get your stories coordinated
Fact remains that it's only European and American Whites who have been trying to exterminate Russians for centuries already
Mestizos, blacks, immigrants and latinos were never in the equation
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