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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:00 pm

    GarryB wrote:It matters when you are picking countries for serious trade relations and cultural interaction...

    Literally never stopped anyone before nor did anyone give a toss about it

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:56 am

    Street shitters will always remain street shitters.

    That is very true... during cleanups after protests in Auckland and Wellington here in New Zealand human excriment has been found left where it was left...

    When there is no where to go we are all street shitters... cause shitters gotta shit.

    I actually kinda feel sorry for jhelb... his world view must be in turmoil... the Indians and Chinese are not sending anti tank missiles and anti aircraft missiles and artillery to murder Russian soldiers and Ukrainian civilians who get in the way. The civilised US led west is trying to butcher as many Russians as they can, ignoring video evidence of war crimes against civilians and enemy combatants.

    The irony is that the rest of the world is Russias future and while it is a dark outlook in racist terms, it is much brighter than Russias future as a tomboy for the US that is their only alternative option open to Russia.

    Hole is right that India has a lot of internal problems, but Russia has plenty of internal problems too... like thinking they have a future with the west... the current conflict should open their eyes to what the west thinks... they are giving a special badge to the Ukraine saying in a few decades you can become a member of the EU so you will be safe from Russia... hilarious considering the EU is not safe from Russia if it keeps pushing those buttons, but essentially they have said to Russia that any form Ukraine takes they will eventually add as a weapon against Russia like they did in 2014... which is just stupid, but if they want to play stupid games they win stupid prizes... Russia is going to understand that any part of pro nazi Ukraine they leave will join the EU and HATO, so it is in their interests the burn the whole place to the ground.... there is not going to be any neutral parts left...

    The western sanctions are not going to end.

    Some silly made up future where the white europeans all join together to fight off evil... islamic or other doesn't matter... it is bollocks.

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    Post  jhelb Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:35 am

    caveat emptor wrote:@GarryB ban this racist **** already. He only posts this type of garbage.
    Majority of problems the world faces today is because of you people of colour. From Islamic jihadis to pagans all these people of colour have zero achievement of their own so hordes of these people will migrate to Russia and West to enjoy a life of comfort and make life miserable for the locals.

    No one in Russia and West likes you people of colour. People are already taking to the streets in several parts of Russia and europe asking for the deportation of these low lifes. That's why "Russia fro Russians" has been such a popular movement.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:21 am

    Things have changed.... Putin realises there is no future with the west for himself or for Russia that is not on US terms... which is a slave owner slave relationship.

    That is OK because the US thinks they are the centre of the universe and Russia has no alternative, but they are wrong and Russia is going to look to the rest of the world for trade and good relations as well as development and growth for both parties.

    Russia wanted to be friends but only as equals, but the west does not respect any country, so Russia will find other countries to work with and develop with.

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    Post  Broski Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:46 am

    GarryB wrote:Some silly made up future where the white europeans all join together to fight off evil... islamic or other doesn't matter... it is bollocks.
    Nobody has killed off more White Europeans in the last 2000 years than other White Europeans, Russia and China have shared a border for over 1000 years yet never had a major war while Russia had several major wars and dozens of minor conflicts with their European "partners", and it seems like the trend continues today. Whether Russian Europhiles like it or not, they will never be accepted as being White(mongols) never mind European or a part of Western Civilization.

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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:22 pm

    jhelb wrote:
    Majority of problems the world faces today is because of you people of colour. From Islamic jihadis to pagans all these people of colour have zero achievement of their own so hordes of these people will migrate to Russia and West to enjoy a life of comfort and make life miserable for the locals.

    No one in Russia and West likes you people of colour. People are already taking to the streets in several parts of Russia and europe asking for the deportation of these low lifes. That's why "Russia fro Russians" has been such a popular movement.
    I'm not person of colour, you idiot. I just can't stand people like you, that's all.

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    Post  bandit6 Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:46 pm

    jhelb wrote:
    caveat emptor wrote:@GarryB ban this racist **** already. He only posts this type of garbage.
    Majority of problems the world faces today is because of you people of colour. From Islamic jihadis to pagans all these people of colour have zero achievement of their own so hordes of these people will migrate to Russia and West to enjoy a life of comfort and make life miserable for the locals.

    No one in Russia and West likes you people of colour. People are already taking to the streets in several parts of Russia and europe asking for the deportation of these low lifes. That's why "Russia fro Russians" has been such a popular movement.

    Us nationalists don't consider Russians white. The trade deal with China and Brics will probably end up with some kind of free movement labour, hopefully it doesn't end up being a shit show
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    Post  LMFS Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:40 pm

    Somebody trim the crap in this thread? And the originators maybe too...

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:28 am

    jhelb wrote:Majority of problems the world faces today is because of you people of colour. From Islamic jihadis to pagans all these people of colour have zero achievement of their own...

    Your beloved Chinese are also people of colour, you dumb inbred cocksucker...




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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:24 pm

    Majority of problems the world faces today is because of you people of colour.

    I totally agree.... but only because I know that white is a colour and white people have had more power and more control than any other ethnic group on the planet and they don't seem to be interested in anything other than feathering their own nests.

    From Islamic jihadis to pagans all these people of colour have zero achievement of their own so hordes of these people will migrate to Russia and West to enjoy a life of comfort and make life miserable for the locals.

    Blaming the people following the money and resources stolen from their countries by white people is blaming the victim isn't it?

    Besides, white westerners don't consider Russians to be white, they don't even call Russians European and don't consider them to be European... otherwise they would have asked Russia to join the EU... which is a union of european countries... they wont ever let Turkey join either and for largely the same reasons.

    Neither are quite white enough for those racist bastards.

    No one in Russia and West likes you people of colour.

    You do know the guy you are talking about is ethnically Russian...

    People are already taking to the streets in several parts of Russia and europe asking for the deportation of these low lifes. That's why "Russia fro Russians" has been such a popular movement.

    There are stupid hate groups everywhere... an over reaction to a few idiots and criminals... well the Russian reputation in the US was that you are all parts of madly violent criminal gangs... and that you are all Georgian...

    Moving the shit to the toilet of the talking bollocks thread.
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    Post  kvs Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:36 am

    LMFS wrote:
    Isos wrote:It's all barking. If EU order they will obei.

    I am not so sure, it seems indeed they had not coordinated with EU and were being used as a pawn for further escalation with Russia and entangling Europe in the problem. They respond to US and to their nazi roots.

    And that is dangerous

    See, the ukronazis were fully aware of the upcoming war with Russia and were still extremely happy to take part on it. The head of the ukie "intelligence" says still that war will be over by the end of the year, because 404 will have won by then. They are Übermenschen and as such they cannot lose, per definition. They are not afraid of war and will seek every opportunity to provoke it and set the world on fire. That is what Russia must be careful about dealing with them.

    Like all the other Eastern U-ropean retards including in ex-Yugoslavia, they all worship at the altar of US invincibility and superiority. So when some
    two-bit yanqui ambassador tells their leader that the US has their back, then they think that they are invincible.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Sun Jun 26, 2022 1:04 am

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:I understand that in the Baltic countries the SS is honored. They do it as a way of provoking Russia, not because they adhere to the national socialist doctrine. I don't know if it was Latvia or Estonia.
    I don't understand why Europe has so many "shitty countries" (I take a phrase from my friend Trump)

    I've spent a lot of time in all three Baltic countries.

    The only one that has that real Nazi vibe, in my opinion, is Latvia. Like, it's not immediately noticeable on the surface but they're the ones who hold annual marches in honor of their SS collaborators in public, they're the ones who desecrate Jewish memorials, and you won't believe the racist s**t you hear there.

    I know a great deal of fantastic people from Latvia though, so it's not everyone that suffer from 1940s Nazi brain rot, but many do. Thing is, I can sort of see where they are coming from, or rather, what the reason for this misguided crap is. Brief taste of independence after having been occupied by Russia and Sweden back and forth for hundreds of years. Then that indy spell was interrupted by the USSR as WW2 began, and they started seeing the Nazis as "liberators" as they attacked the prior occupants. That's pretty much it.

    Of course, the irony is that without the Latvian riflemen being Bolshevik muscle, the USSR probably wouldn't even have existed in the first place. And as extra irony, the Nazis would have eventually started exterminating them one way or another (forced labor, deportation, mass murder) since they were in the way of GPO in the long run.

    Anyway, kind of off-topic (though UA "Banderists" are strikingly similar)


    And the first ever Red Army general was a Latvian, and the only "more significant" indigenous Soviet partisan movement in the Baltic republics was in Latvia.

    I think now they are trying to make up for it with their silly SS marches, to try to cover up their other pro-Bolshevik/Soviet past.

    Yes, this is the most striking irony. Without Latvian pro-Bolshevik sentiments (incl the infamous riflemen I mentioned, who dealt crushing blows on the white armies), perhaps the USSR would not even have come into being.


    And the "similar" part is both yes and no. Both try to worship their SS-men, but Ukrainians have at least a genuine claim to a Germanic Varangian ancestry, whereas the Latvians only can claim to have been raped by the German crusaders.


    Even in Canada the Ukrainians are more liked than the other Eastern Europeans, perhaps with the exception of the Hungarians.


    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html

    Right, but it's complicated. The Rurik dynasty (Varangian, so Scandinavian/Germanic) took rule in Ladoga, soon therafter Novgorod, but people in these lands were chiefly Slavic (Ilmen slavs) and Finnic. Lots of mixing of Slavic, Finnic and Scandinavian occured here. When the Rurik dynasty moved southward down the Dnepr they encountered some village named "Kii" inhabited by other Slavs (I guess we'd call them Poles, more or less) and people of Turkic/Iranian ancestry (Khazars etc).

    Better located than prior cities, the village became the new Rus capital, Kiev.

    Goes on like this, lots of folks from everywhere. But anyway, if the bloodline of the rulers matter, then it is a given that Moscow is the capital of all Rus. The last Rurik heir ruled over and died in Moscow, his capital. If Ukrainians are larping about this, let them do it, but if they allege they have something to do with Rus, then they should swear allegiance to whoever rules Moscow.

    Insert totally sincere trollface.



    Do not make the Ukrainians into "Slavs" that they are really not.

    When the mostly Eastern Slavic Rurikid forces took Kiev it was a Varangian stronghold ruled by upstart Varangian puppets of the Khazars and/or the Hungarians (Askold & Dir).

    Even the much later Ukrainian Zaporozhian Cossacks were essentially a continuation of the earlier Varangian traditions.


    Rurik himself might have been Finnish, genetic tests apparently proved that.


    Real Slavs are people like ethnic Poles.


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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:24 am

    [quote="Odin of Ossetia"]
    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:


    And the first ever Red Army general was a Latvian, and the only "more significant" indigenous Soviet partisan movement in the Baltic republics was in Latvia.

    I think now they are trying to make up for it with their silly SS marches, to try to cover up their other pro-Bolshevik/Soviet past.


    And the "similar" part is both yes and no. Both try to worship their SS-men, but Ukrainians have at least a genuine claim to a Germanic Varangian ancestry, whereas the Latvians only can claim to have been raped by the German crusaders.


    Even in Canada the Ukrainians are more liked than the other Eastern Europeans, perhaps with the exception of the Hungarians.


    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html





    The Ukrainian Nazis do not understand anything because they are ignorant. They already demonstrate it with the mere fact of following a Jewish president.
    The only Germans in Europe (in ethnic terms) are the Scandinavians: Danes, Swedes and Norwegians. No more.
    Germany is myth since it is a mixture of French, Roman and Polish Slavs. The philosopher Nietzsche said that the Poles had more nobility and purity in their blood than the Germans of that time. (Imagine now)
    They believed themselves to be the heart of "Germanity" because they bore the name of an empire that never had real power and that was a grotesque imitation of the ancient Roman empire. They only had a state at the end of the 19th century when Russia was already an empire in the 15th century and mediated with the Swedish, Spanish and French empire.
    Still, nobody will care in a few years as uncontrolled immigration will make the Germans a vestige of the past.
    The important thing is that Russia protects its blood and its civilizing values.
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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:00 am

    par far wrote:"Moscow Chief Rabbi exile in Israel, after refusing to support Ukraine war."

    Nothing would have happened to this asshole but he had to support the agenda of the west.

    Good he left Russia, no need for scumbags like this.


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    And what did you expect from these people?

    The only allegiance of the Jews is to money, the synagogue and Israel. It doesn't matter if you're fighting Nazis.
    Putin is not going to do it since he takes care of his relations with Israel out of pragmatism. But it would be nice for a future president to arm Syria and Iran to wipe Israel and the Jews off the map. Ultimately, they are the problem of everything. Deep down it all makes sense: The Russian project is detrimental to global Jewish interests.

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    Post  thegopnik Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:12 am

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:I understand that in the Baltic countries the SS is honored. They do it as a way of provoking Russia, not because they adhere to the national socialist doctrine. I don't know if it was Latvia or Estonia.
    I don't understand why Europe has so many "shitty countries" (I take a phrase from my friend Trump)

    I've spent a lot of time in all three Baltic countries.

    The only one that has that real Nazi vibe, in my opinion, is Latvia. Like, it's not immediately noticeable on the surface but they're the ones who hold annual marches in honor of their SS collaborators in public, they're the ones who desecrate Jewish memorials, and you won't believe the racist s**t you hear there.

    I know a great deal of fantastic people from Latvia though, so it's not everyone that suffer from 1940s Nazi brain rot, but many do. Thing is, I can sort of see where they are coming from, or rather, what the reason for this misguided crap is. Brief taste of independence after having been occupied by Russia and Sweden back and forth for hundreds of years. Then that indy spell was interrupted by the USSR as WW2 began, and they started seeing the Nazis as "liberators" as they attacked the prior occupants. That's pretty much it.

    Of course, the irony is that without the Latvian riflemen being Bolshevik muscle, the USSR probably wouldn't even have existed in the first place. And as extra irony, the Nazis would have eventually started exterminating them one way or another (forced labor, deportation, mass murder) since they were in the way of GPO in the long run.

    Anyway, kind of off-topic (though UA "Banderists" are strikingly similar)


    And the first ever Red Army general was a Latvian, and the only "more significant" indigenous Soviet partisan movement in the Baltic republics was in Latvia.

    I think now they are trying to make up for it with their silly SS marches, to try to cover up their other pro-Bolshevik/Soviet past.

    Yes, this is the most striking irony. Without Latvian pro-Bolshevik sentiments (incl the infamous riflemen I mentioned, who dealt crushing blows on the white armies), perhaps the USSR would not even have come into being.


    And the "similar" part is both yes and no. Both try to worship their SS-men, but Ukrainians have at least a genuine claim to a Germanic Varangian ancestry, whereas the Latvians only can claim to have been raped by the German crusaders.


    Even in Canada the Ukrainians are more liked than the other Eastern Europeans, perhaps with the exception of the Hungarians.


    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html

    Right, but it's complicated. The Rurik dynasty (Varangian, so Scandinavian/Germanic) took rule in Ladoga, soon therafter Novgorod, but people in these lands were chiefly Slavic (Ilmen slavs) and Finnic. Lots of mixing of Slavic, Finnic and Scandinavian occured here. When the Rurik dynasty moved southward down the Dnepr they encountered some village named "Kii" inhabited by other Slavs (I guess we'd call them Poles, more or less) and people of Turkic/Iranian ancestry (Khazars etc).

    Better located than prior cities, the village became the new Rus capital, Kiev.

    Goes on like this, lots of folks from everywhere. But anyway, if the bloodline of the rulers matter, then it is a given that Moscow is the capital of all Rus. The last Rurik heir ruled over and died in Moscow, his capital. If Ukrainians are larping about this, let them do it, but if they allege they have something to do with Rus, then they should swear allegiance to whoever rules Moscow.

    Insert totally sincere trollface.



    Do not make the Ukrainians into "Slavs" that they are really not.

    When the mostly Eastern Slavic Rurikid forces took Kiev it was a Varangian stronghold ruled by upstart Varangian puppets of the Khazars and/or the Hungarians (Askold & Dir).

    Even the much later Ukrainian Zaporozhian Cossacks were essentially a continuation of the earlier Varangian traditions.


    Rurik himself might have been Finnish, genetic tests apparently proved that.


    Real Slavs are people like ethnic Poles.



    some have produced the best scientific minds like serbia and russia, some want to be retards like croats, poles and ukrainians, and some just want to live peaceful lives like czechs and slobaks

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:31 am


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    some have produced the best scientific minds like serbia and russia, some want to be retards like croats, poles and ukrainians, and some just want to live peaceful lives like czechs and slobaks[/quote]


    Dude, you did a chain message with others.
    The Poles also had their thing like Copernicus and Chopin. I have nothing against the Slovaks but I don't know what they contributed to the culture. They remind me of the Uruguayans.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:03 am

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    par far wrote:"Moscow Chief Rabbi exile in Israel, after refusing to support Ukraine war."

    Nothing would have happened to this asshole but he had to support the agenda of the west.

    Good he left Russia, no need for scumbags like this.


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    And what did you expect from these people?

    The only allegiance of the Jews is to money, the synagogue and Israel. It doesn't matter if you're fighting Nazis.
    Putin is not going to do it since he takes care of his relations with Israel out of pragmatism. But it would be nice for a future president to arm Syria and Iran to wipe Israel and the Jews off the map. Ultimately, they are the problem of everything. Deep down it all makes sense: The Russian project is detrimental to global Jewish interests.
    Neocon jews and ex-Soviet dissident jews in the US are certainly the main reservoir of Russophobia in the US government and private ThinkTankLand influencers. Their hatred of Russia is eternal and bone-deep. Relations with the US (and thereby Yoo-rope) won't improve until these hate-filled racist vermin are removed from any positions of influence.

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    Post  par far Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:21 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    par far wrote:"Moscow Chief Rabbi exile in Israel, after refusing to support Ukraine war."

    Nothing would have happened to this asshole but he had to support the agenda of the west.

    Good he left Russia, no need for scumbags like this.


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    And what did you expect from these people?

    The only allegiance of the Jews is to money, the synagogue and Israel. It doesn't matter if you're fighting Nazis.
    Putin is not going to do it since he takes care of his relations with Israel out of pragmatism. But it would be nice for a future president to arm Syria and Iran to wipe Israel and the Jews off the map. Ultimately, they are the problem of everything. Deep down it all makes sense: The Russian project is detrimental to global Jewish interests.
    Neocon jews and ex-Soviet dissident jews in the US are certainly the main reservoir of Russophobia in the US government and private ThinkTankLand influencers.  Their hatred of Russia is eternal and bone-deep.  Relations with the US (and thereby Yoo-rope) won't improve until these hate-filled racist vermin are removed from any positions of influence.


    The problem is that they are not only in the US but elsewhere as well.

    Do some research on Chrystia Freeland and her grandfather she runs Canada basically.

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    Post  andalusia Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:33 am

    The Anglo-Saxons, as mere muscle for the usurers, have been more responsible for the death and destruction of white European peoples than any other group.
    The genocíde of the Irish by Cromwell, the killing of your coreligionists, the Boers, the financing of the Bolsheviks which resulted in the massacre of 60 million Russian Christians, the two world wars you started which were responsible for the deaths of millions of European Christians and innocent German civilians are just some examples of the genocides carried out by the cowardly materialistic race on behalf of their Jewish masters.

    The recent illegal invasions of the Middle East on half of the bankers has resulted in a refugee problem which will result in the end of Europe and western civilization which was built by the Catholic Church.  Anglo-Saxon civilization built on greed and usury is about to come to an end and the world will be a better place for it.

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    Post  Tolstoy Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:00 am

    thegopnik wrote:some have produced the best scientific minds like serbia and russia, some want to be retards like croats, poles and ukrainians, and some just want to live peaceful lives like czechs and slobaks
    Czechs???? What have they ever produced? Third world countries of Asia have produced more scientific minds than Czechs.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:22 am

    Speaking as an Anglosaxon, you are not wrong... WWI and WWII were incredibly deadly events... colonial Europe had used both Machine Guns and Artillery on the damn natives of the planet who were smart enough to avoid fighting before millions died, but arrogant white europeans believed in the superiority of their machine guns and artillery ignoring the other side had comparable if not better weapons and so WWI was a dreadful waste of lives... and the fact that after 4 years of combat the winners blamed the losers for everything when the Germans were no more responsible than the British or French... the Americans didn't even turn up till it was almost over, but an opportunity was seen to steal land from a rival colonial power so German Samoa became American Samoa and lots of little areas in the Middle East were redrawn into the countries we know today drawn based on known oil reserves rather than ethnic lines resulting in almost continuous conflict in the region ever since.

    Blaming the Germans for the war made the second world war inevitable and also rather more deadly too.

    And yet still the lesson was not learned so it was followed immediately by the Cold war where allies and enemies got together and faced old allies with more resources and people wasted.

    The problem is that when you write your history to show you never did anything wrong how can you learn anything useful from it?

    They say it is important to learn from history to avoid making the same mistakes of history... but 100 years after the ME was redrawn and new countries created, now Europe is being redrawn and countries are being created... it was OK because WWI could never happen because Europe divided into two enormous power blocks... each acting as the others deterrent so war could never happen... each side would be too powerful to think of fighting so war could never start...

    Except WWI was a war... the problem was that their theory for peace was bollocks.

    And the results scarred a generation but not enough to make them want to avoid more war.... these days it is a good business and great way to earn billions...

    All of Europe is now in a military organisation with Russia as its enemy which was supposed to prevent war and protect Europe from Russia... not really working... like sanctions are not working so the obvious solution is more war and more sanctions because western leaders are fucking idiots.
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    Post  Scorpius Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:16 pm

    One of my friends posted a photo report about his car trip on vacation to the South of Russia. 150+ photos.
    You can assess the level of condition of Russian roads and other infrastructure (especially for those who claim that Russia is limited to Moscow and St. Petersburg, and there is nothing beyond them).
    https://autotravel.d3.ru/iug-rossii-2292665/?sorting=rating
    A few photos for example:
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    Post  kvs Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:08 pm

    OT but relevant for the subject of this thread.

    A lot of the Slavic ethnic groups have an inferiority complex regarding Russia. It explains the compulsion to antagonize Russia
    and crawl up the west's ass. The origin of this complex is hard to frame. It seems to be related to the Catholic vs. Orthodox
    schism which resulted in the usual pattern of regime change and hate baiting. The Czechs and the Poles are good examples of
    this but the schism is not enough to explain it. Even though in Ukraine the western Banderite nationalism has its roots in the
    Catholic drang nach osten and involves the Uniates and Polish occupation, the propagation of this nationalism into regions not
    subject to this historical distortion implies another process.

    I think that for Ukraine its ongoing failure after 1990 has been one of the pillars for the spread of Banderite derangement. It
    is very popular in Ukraine to swallow the BS that things are worse in Russia. This has not been the case at any stage including
    the 1990s. But it shows the inferiority complex. The inferiority does not have to be conscious, it can be subconscious and
    Ukrainians have to have some sense deep down that their country is a shithole. The frenzied rush to U-rope and all the
    "Ukraina tse Evropa" is driven by losers who cannot cope with their failure.

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    Post  George1 Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:56 pm

    kvs wrote:OT but relevant for the subject of this thread.

    A lot of the Slavic ethnic groups have an inferiority complex regarding Russia.   It explains the compulsion to antagonize Russia
    and crawl up the west's ass.   The origin of this complex is hard to frame.   It seems to be related to the Catholic vs. Orthodox
    schism which resulted in the usual pattern of regime change and hate baiting.   The Czechs and the Poles are good examples of
    this but the schism is not enough to explain it.   Even though in Ukraine the western Banderite nationalism has its roots in the
    Catholic drang nach osten and involves the Uniates and Polish occupation, the propagation of this nationalism into regions not
    subject to this historical distortion implies another process.  

    I think that for Ukraine its ongoing failure after 1990 has been one of the pillars for the spread of Banderite derangement.   It
    is very popular in Ukraine to swallow the BS that things are worse in Russia.   This has not been the case at any stage including
    the 1990s.  But it shows the inferiority complex.   The inferiority does not have to be conscious, it can be subconscious and
    Ukrainians have to have some sense deep down that their country is a shithole.   The frenzied rush to U-rope and all the
    "Ukraina tse Evropa" is driven by losers who cannot cope with their failure.
     

    the religion is the cause. Consider that even for Ukraine they were part of polish-lithuanian commonwealth so they have been influenced from catholic administration. On the contrary belarus wasnt influenced

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    Post  Broski Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:01 pm

    George1 wrote:the religion is the cause. Consider that even for Ukraine they were part of polish-lithuanian commonwealth so they have been influenced from catholic administration. On the contrary belarus wasnt influenced
    If religion is the cause, how do you explain the antagonistic stance that Bulgaria, Georgia, Moldova, Montenegro, Macedonia and Romania (all orthodox christian) have taken against Russia long before the Ukraine war started?

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