AMCXXL wrote:The Su-57 is even heavier than the Su-33
Unsure, since we don't have official values. But it is smaller in linear dimensions, which is the real limitation. As to its take off characteristics... they are simply impressive, and izd. 30 is not yet installed. It will be the best naval fighter... ever.
In this context, a STOVL version of the Su-75 or some other development should be expected for the 2030s, which is actually what was planned since 2000.
Seems quite difficult due to the layout. The ventral bays are in the way of any eventual vertical lift system, and the intake is very long, it does not seem easily compatible with a lifting system instead of the cockpit on an eventual STOVL UCAV developed based on it.
Yes, but that the Su-57 is navalized, it is like that the F-22 is navalized, the trend is not going around, among other things because you need aircraft carriers twice as large and that cost 5 times more
No, with the TWR and lift augmentation of the Su-57 they would not need more but rather quite less space for TO, and landing would be equal as current planes at worst. F-22 is completely different.
Now, if the development works, nothing prevents the Navy from ordering navalized or unmanned versions, since for the vanguard zone and overseas operations this plane may make sense.
It must be taken into account that the Navy Air Force must be rebuilt from 2028-2030 and it will be done according to its own criteria and differentiated needs.
You know a lot about the way Russian military is organized, but that is the present, strongly conditioned by the fall of the USSR and the difficulties afterwards, and now they are reverting past decisions, refurbishing new air bases and creating new regiments or at least bringing them back to life. One regiment of Su-57 in the West, south and East is nothing. Going forward, the Su-27, 30, and even 35 need replacement, too. And overall the VKS needs to grow, significantly. East and Northern regions are basically empty and they need coverage, while Sukhoi was smart enough to give the LTS a remarkable range. So they can have a force of Su-57 and complement it with the LTS for better coverage and less demanding missions, while the Okhotnik takes care mainly of strike missions. This points BTW to completely different operational concepts when compared to USSR, the future seems more oriented to mixed operations of manned and unmanned aircraft, maybe even in mixed regiments. What I want to say is that they will do what makes military sense, not simply apply Soviet doctrine. I would not see why they would need to limit fielding of the LTS to the VMF. They can and frequently modify composition of their regiments according to the need and specially to the availability of planes. They have already a lot of Su-34 and they keep ordering, the same with Su-35 and Su-30, they simply need more planes, and the development of the fleet based military regions will demand even more.
We disagree completely, time will say who is right and who is wrong.