Forcing an integration based on the same principles used in the nineties and early XXI century would mean going back to a very uneconomical buying of "loyalty" which is today completely unnecessary.
It is not loyalty that is paid for, because real loyalty can't be bought and sold... these people who are rejecting Russia think they can get a better deal with the US and the EU... so how is that working out for them?
An ex girlfriend that dumps you for someone richer is not someone I would go crawling back on my hands an knees for... first of all she should be doing the crawling, because she did the betraying.
You guys are forgetting that that there are still millions of pro-Russia people in Ukraine.
You say that, but how many actually did anything in support of Russia or Russian interests?
We can not throw them under the bus and/or forget about them.
Nothing to do with throwing anyone under any buses... Russia can verbally support them on the quiet as long as no one tells them not to support them... like they did.
"Let them move to Russia" is not doable.
It is not Russian land any more because the majority of the people on the land identify as Ukrainian... just the same as the land in Belarus and the Baltic states are no longer Russian now either. Crimea remains Russian purely because that is the will of the people in the Crimea.
If the people of the Ukraine choose the wealth of the west then let them... Europe needs another Albania...
I want both the land and the people.
The people of the Ukraine get a vote and they can choose, but for the moment they are being led by a minority of idiots... like most countries on the planet.
Some of their Oligarchs have made statements along the lines of the Ukraine has a more prosperous future with Russia but only because closer ties with the EU and US is destroying their fortunes too along with the country... if not the next election then perhaps the election after that reality will start to dawn and they will change their tune.
HATO has already said it wont fight Russia and they know they can't beat Russia, and Russia has said it will intervene if they try a little genocide, so there are no other options left on the table except wait for the end.
Russia does not need to invade.... the whole house of cards is collapsing... and the same could be said about the US and EU too.
Let the Bandera-fans move to Galicia or further West.
I theory I would agree, but honestly Russia has its own problems and doesn't need to have to fix the Ukraine too... America and the EU broke it... they laughed and joked at doing it for only 5 billion.... they couldn't change their government logo design on the napkins in their canteens for that small amount of money... let America and the EU fix the Ukraine.
What is this delusion that people under 35 in Kherson or Odessa want to join Russia? They don't. They do not even have a memory of the USSR. They view themselves as Ukrainian - not the same frothing at the mouth Ukrainians as in Kiev or Lvov, but Ukrainian. In 1991 it would have made sense. Today, that ship has long since sailed.
Exactly... if these people wanted to be Russian they are in the same position as the Crimeans... largely in control of their own territory... they could have had a referendum and decided as a people to leave the Ukraine and become an autonomous region which is what I suspect they will eventually do anyway.... I very much doubt they will want to join the Russian Federation, unless they want armed muscle protecting them... and honestly I can't see Putin rushing that through.
The Crimea is Russian, everyone in Russia thinks so and more importantly everyone in the Crimea thinks so... the solution was obvious and easy.
The Ukraine is the Ukraine... they might speak Russian but they are Ukrainian.
According to John Barrasso (R-Wyoming), one of the lawmakers introducing the bill, Russian President Vladimir Putin “is attempting to dominate and control Ukraine.” The senator said, “we cannot let this bold and dangerous behavior go unchecked. The United States and our allies must not lose control and domination of the Ukraine for they are our pawns and pawns are not for sharing...”
Yeah, what a faggot.
Germany reveals long delay for Russian gas pipeline certification
Hahaha... good profits for Gazprom then...
They don't know what to do, do they
Hence the more hysterical and ridiculous the decisions
Well obviously when sanctions and pressure don't work or indeed actually backfire then the only solution is more sanctions and pressure, because obviously the country that broke the back of the Germans during WWII and endured situations like the Siege of Leningrad... it just takes a little more pressure and they will break. Obviously.
They are scared and they don't know what to do... all the countries of Europe combined with the military force of the last remaining super power and their solutions are these...
Where have all the smart people in the west gone?
I am so glad Russia and China had good leaders now at a time when the quality of leadership in the west has descended so badly.
It seems presidents are hand picked by the 1% who don't want a smart leader, they want a leader that will do as they are told so the 1% can make even more money... their problem is that they are picking the captains of the ship based on how much of a suckup they are and the current ones can't read a map let alone steer the ship and the ship is taking on water and the last few captains who thought money floated just ordered more money to be printed to keep the ship afloat... the next president might order holes to be drilled into the hull to let all that water out...