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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #30

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    Post  GarryB Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:42 pm

    No Americans were mentioned because in America is it perfectly legal to be rich and not pay tax... let the poor pay tax... and most of the tax goes to funding wars that make the rich even richer.

    The majority of Americans don't even see their money spent on infrastructure to make their lives easier or more comfortable... they just brace themselves for the next tax bill...

    Stealing taxpayers money from the US government is a game but you need a billion in the bank to win... because you need a billion in the bank to play.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:06 am

    Fair summary. "We are doomed"

    Kiev – The delivery of gas to Hungary via Serbia and the bypassing of Ukraine in the transport of energy provoked numerous comments and criticism in the Ukrainian parliament.

    Ilya Kiva, a member of the state Rada from the opposition party “Opposition Platform – for Life”, believes that the deliveries of Russian gas to Hungary outside the territory of Ukraine will in the future lead to the collapse of the country.

    “The beginning of the end of the Ukrainian economy, and finally the collapse of the country … Russian ‘Gazprom’ has started delivering gas to Hungary through the ‘Turkish Stream’ gas pipeline, which bypasses the territory of Ukraine!” All this happened thanks to the senseless, criminal economic and political attitude of the authorities, “the Ukrainian MP wrote on the social network Telegram.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:10 am

    JohninMK wrote:Fair summary. "We are doomed"

    Kiev – The delivery of gas to Hungary via Serbia and the bypassing of Ukraine in the transport of energy provoked numerous comments and criticism in the Ukrainian parliament.

    Ilya Kiva, a member of the state Rada from the opposition party “Opposition Platform – for Life”, believes that the deliveries of Russian gas to Hungary outside the territory of Ukraine will in the future lead to the collapse of the country.

    “The beginning of the end of the Ukrainian economy, and finally the collapse of the country … Russian ‘Gazprom’ has started delivering gas to Hungary through the ‘Turkish Stream’ gas pipeline, which bypasses the territory of Ukraine!” All this happened thanks to the senseless, criminal economic and political attitude of the authorities, “the Ukrainian MP wrote on the social network Telegram.


    I'm curious to see what effect it has on Ukraine.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:12 pm

    Putin has already instructed Gazprom to continue to send the agreed upon amounts of gas through Ukrainian pipes as agreed... they are not going to freeze this winter... as long as they don't do something really stupid like steal or divert the gas.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:48 pm

    GarryB wrote:Putin has already instructed Gazprom to continue to send the agreed upon amounts of gas through Ukrainian pipes as agreed... they are not going to freeze this winter... as long as they don't do something really stupid like steal or divert the gas.

    Kiev would have got its money regardless of whether gas flowed or not. No indication that they would exceed the contracted amount. No skin off the Russians nose to do this, just playing to the EU/US gallery.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:46 am

    This is an Office they really don't want to fill.


    U.S. Embassy Kyiv
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    The EU and the US are greatly disappointed by unexplained and unjustifiable delays in the selection of the Head of the Specialized Anti-Corruption Prosecutor Office, a crucial body in the fight against high-level corruption. (1/2)

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    Post  Hole Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:33 pm

    Well, they should do it like the EU and the US do it: place the most corrupt politician in that seat. Very Happy
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    Post  GarryB Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:57 pm

    Tough times.... 10,000 potentially over qualified candidates for just the one position....

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:05 am

    Positive move if this comes to anything

    ASB News / MILITARYPart alternation mark
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    BREAKING: Kremlin says US & Russia agree Ukraine must give Donbass special autonomous status

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    Kremlin's Deputy Chief of Staff Dmitry Kozak said that during his talks with US Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, an agreement was reached to continue consultations between Moscow and Washington on a settlement in Donbas.

    (Interfax)

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Yesterday at 6:16 am

    [quote="JohninMK"]Positive move if this comes to anything

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    Kremlin's Deputy Chief of Staff Dmitry Kozak said that during his talks with US Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, an agreement was reached to continue consultations between Moscow and Washington on a settlement in Donbas.

    (Interfax)

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    You have got to be kidding! The cookie lady, who gave the protestors cookies, (Victoria Nuland!) now agrees " to continue consultations between Moscow and Washington on a settlement in Donbas."!!


    Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call
    Published February 2014


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957



    US official gives cookies to pro-EU protesters
    By EUOBSERVER

    11. DEC 2013, 17:48
    A senior US state department official, Victoria Nuland, handed out cookies to pro-EU protesters in central Kiev on Wednesday after meeting Ukraine's President Viktor Yanukovych. She said their conversation was "tough" and "realistic." EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton is holding a second meeting with him in Kiev also Wednesday.

    https://euobserver.com/tickers/122437
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    Post  kvs Yesterday at 7:31 am

    The US is "agreeing" to what is already required by the Minsk Accords.

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    Post  GarryB Yesterday at 3:07 pm

    Nuland (ie the US) spent 5 billion dollars to overthrow the legitimate government in Kiev and replace them with the remaining dregs of politics in the Ukraine... the cookies were just PR.

    So if America is agreeing that the Minsk agreements need to be implemented then that puts pressure on Kiev because they are the ones dragging their feet.

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    Post  miketheterrible Yesterday at 3:42 pm

    We are going in circles here.

    US will continue to kick the can, which means PUkraine will too, over the issue and US will continue to pick at Russia. This is US piss poor attempt to try and find some breathing room and no one is buying it.
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    Post  VARGR198 Yesterday at 9:05 pm

    Breaking In Donetsk, residents have blocked the OSCE offices at the Park Inn Hotel after Ukrainian forces kidnapped a representative of the JCCC in the Lugansk People’s Republic and continue to hold him hostage. Jeeps from the OSCE are blocked from going on patrol.  #Donbass

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Today at 6:01 am

    VARGR198 wrote: Breaking In Donetsk, residents have blocked the OSCE offices at the Park Inn Hotel after Ukrainian forces kidnapped a representative of the JCCC in the Lugansk People’s Republic and continue to hold him hostage. Jeeps from the OSCE are blocked from going on patrol.  #Donbass


    I'm curious to see how this all plays out.

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    Post  VARGR198 Today at 8:39 am

    I seen images of the captured soldier yesterday. Ukrainians who kidnapped him had him blindfolded.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Today at 10:25 am

    VARGR198 wrote:I seen images of the captured soldier yesterday. Ukrainians who kidnapped him had him blindfolded.

    I hope they do him no harm.


    Not like the criminals who came to Donetsk, etc. and kidnapped and tortured persons.

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