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    Post  Mir Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:57 pm

    I don't know Limb - the anti-vaxxers I know are very much aware of the dark history of the negative side effects Big Pharma's medicine has unleashed onto many unsuspecting victims. The recent vaccine drives by the Gates foundation in Africa and India produced some horrendous side effects. BUT not every medicine that has been developed is frowned upon and surely there are many developments like penicillin for instance, that has made a huge difference. The reay big issue today is the question around mandatory vaccines - it would be unethical to force people to have vaccines, esp now that it is pretty clear that these vaccines effectiveness fades after a very short period of time. This fact actually begs the question if they are actually vaccines or not. They certainly don't stand up to the general definition of what a vaccine should be. Personally I would not take it because I've already survived covid and therefor should have plenty anti-bodies that would give me much better protection against covid than the so-called vaccines. Most people have a 99+% chance of surviving covid anyway, but if somebody feels that he/she wants to take the vaccine they are free to do so.
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    Post  Mir Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:23 pm

    GarryB wrote:you should be enjoying being in the Matrix because for you there is no escape... can you hear that helicopter outside... don't look.... but I can tell you it is black... and it is watching you and listening to you and monitoring everything you type....

    That's old school Gary. Those black helicopters have long been replaced by drones and the aps on your smart phone! Laughing
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    Post  kvs Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:36 pm

    No vaccine will work indefinitely on a high antigenic drift virus.    There is no specific definition of a vaccine that requires it to be permanently effective.
    The same goes for the "immunity" you get from surviving an infection.   Your immune system will have to fight the disease all over again for a sufficiently
    different strain.   Covid is following the flu pattern.    The flu vaccines were useless in less than a year and even within the same season since there
    is no pan-strain vaccine and only a most prominent strain is chosen for the vaccine target.  

    We will now have a covid and flu season.   The value of vaccines in the early stages of this virus species spread is that they bridge the novelty gap for the
    immune system.   After that, people are more likely not to die from this virus species even for new strains that emerge as long as those strains are
    not radically different.   Again, we see the same pattern with the flu.   Occasionally there is new strain (e.g. the fowl to pig to human variant) that
    is a big enough genetic delta to challenge the immune system to figure out antibodies for it.    Strains with smaller genetic variation are easier for
    the immune system to (literally) adapt to.  

    People who have survived covid without any vaccine do not need one.   They have already bridged the novelty gap.  Demanding they take a vaccine
    is like demanding that people take the flu vaccine.   That is ridiculous.

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    Post  Vann7 Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:46 am

    more painful truth for Garryb to explain.. of their lovely poisonous vaccines..


    Johnson and Johnson scientist , speaks against mandatatory vaccinations on children,
    then when asked reasons why would any pharma company do such a thing , to put at risk
    the live of children , his response. money and politics.  

    so even people ,scientist who work and western anglo pharma industry oppose this vaccinations
    on children and accuse garryb lovely western pharma , of corruption.  which is what money and politics , really means , when such things becomes more important than saving lives  Smile

    Two Johnson & Johnson officials admitted to Project Veritas in undercover video that children shouldn’t take the COVID vaccine in part because of its potential long-term side effects.




    Oh ,, but then garryb accuse us of being conspiracy theorist.. and will continue ignoring
    the facts.  lol1   When even johson and johson employees don't promote the products they sell ,
    and tell ,that we should not trust in the media ever, about how great are the vaccines ,and implied his company is very corrupt ,then you know something really bad is happening with anglo western pharma industry.  


    the best one , was veritas report #2 . when a doctor in emergency , openly told ,
    "the darn vaccine is full of shit " , because was causing a lot of serious heart issues in people
    ,including killing them.

    How many think Garryb will continue ignoring the endless waves of reports , that proof the corruption
    going on behind anglo west pharma industry. And still will continue using western media propaganda ,to support his killer vaccines.

    By the way..  i was the first one to warn , that Russian media was going to be banned in near future ,
    for exposing the criminal Fraud of western so called vaccines ,that have nothing to do with saving lives ,but population subjugation by controlling their health.   They already wiped RT german youtube channel with millions subscribers..  and looks they testing the waters.. and the next ban will be RT english and their youtube and social media channels.

    The next news interesting too..  

    The inventor of mRNA technology Dr. Robert Malone, signed a declaration of 4,600 international doctors , rejecting this massive vaccination campaign with dangerous experiments , that are injuring and killing many so many thousands in the population.




    We the physicians of the world, united and loyal to the Hippocratic Oath, recognizing the profession of medicine as we know it is at a crossroad, are compelled to declare the following;

    WHEREAS, it is our utmost responsibility and duty to uphold and restore the dignity, integrity, art and science of medicine;

    WHEREAS, there is an unprecedented assault on our ability to care for our patients;

    WHEREAS, public policy makers have chosen to force a “one size fits all” treatment strategy, resulting in needless illness and death, rather than upholding fundamental concepts of the individualized, personalized approach to patient care which is proven to be safe and more effective;

    WHEREAS, physicians and other health care providers working on the front lines, utilizing their knowledge of epidemiology, pathophysiology and pharmacology, are often first to identify new, potentially life saving treatments;

    WHEREAS, physicians are increasingly being discouraged from engaging in open professional discourse and the exchange of ideas about new and emerging diseases, not only endangering the essence of the medical profession, but more importantly, more tragically, the lives of our patients;

    WHEREAS , thousands of physicians are being prevented from providing treatment to their patients, as a result of barriers put up by pharmacies, hospitals, and public health agencies, rendering the vast majority of healthcare providers helpless to protect their patients in the face of disease.  Physicians are now advising their patients to simply go home (allowing the virus to replicate) and return when their disease worsens, resulting in hundreds of thousands of unnecessary patient deaths, due to failure-to-treat;

    WHEREAS, this is not medicine. This is not care. These policies may actually constitute crimes against humanity.

    NOW THEREFORE, IT IS:

    RESOLVED, that the physician-patient relationship must be restored. The very heart of medicine is this relationship, which allows physicians to best understand their patients and their illnesses, to formulate treatments that give the best chance for success, while the patient is an active participant in their care.

    RESOLVED, that the political intrusion into the practice of medicine and the physician/patient relationship must end. Physicians, and all health care providers, must be free to practice the art and science of medicine without fear of retribution, censorship, slander, or disciplinary action, including possible loss of licensure and hospital privileges, loss of insurance contracts and interference from government entities and organizations – which further prevent us from caring for patients in need. More than ever, the right and ability to exchange objective scientific findings, which further our understanding of disease, must be protected.

    RESOLVED, that physicians must defend their right to prescribe treatment, observing the tenet FIRST, DO NO HARM. Physicians shall not be restricted from prescribing safe and effective treatments. These restrictions continue to cause unnecessary sickness and death. The rights of patients, after being fully informed about the risks and benefits of each option, must be restored to receive those treatments.

    RESOLVED, that we invite physicians of the world and all health care providers to join us in this noble cause as we endeavor to restore trust, integrity and professionalism to the practice of medicine.

    RESOLVED, that we invite the scientists of the world, who are skilled in biomedical research and uphold the highest ethical and moral standards, to insist on their ability to conduct and publish objective, empirical research without fear of reprisal upon their careers, reputations and livelihoods.

    RESOLVED, that we invite patients, who believe in the importance of the physician-patient relationship and the ability to be active participants in their care, to demand access to science-based medical care.

    IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the undersigned has signed this Declaration as of the date first written.


    https://yournews.com/2021/09/28/2228228/4600-doctors/

    So is not just "conspiracy nuts" as Garryb implied oppose this vaccines that  he promotes, but real  international doctors and scientist and the inventor of mRNA technology , that clearly compared this
    vaccinations in the west , with crimes against humanity.

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    Post  Mir Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:43 am

    Well Vann7 my country is probably leading the charge on looting the emergency funds allocated to the covid scam.

    One example (and there are man ymore !) is our very own Health Minister Mkhize who was suspended because of contractual irregularities and gross mismanagement of funds (money laundering). Naturally he denied any wrongdoing but now the screws are being turned on him. In a damning report it was found that our former Health Minister lied to the nation, failed in his oversight duties and was also found that he himself appointed of his close associates. His Director General has also being found sharing in the loot and has been suspended.  

    It appears now that his whole family has benefited from the one contract to the amount of  R150 million. I'm pretty sure there's more to come!

    There are many other examples where our Government looted the money. One more example >>  Millions was allocated to provide funds for stricken people in the arts, tourism and entertainment industry. From the million employed by these industries literally a handful of people in need actually got any money at all. Apparently counselors donated these funds to themselves and their friends. Meanwhile many of these people are now destitute and the number of suicides are increasing.

    If anybody wants to know how the Governments scores big time from the covid scam and lockdowns - well this is how they do it in South Africa. Being ruled by a bunch of criminals I am convinced they made some very profitable deals with Big Pharma as well. There is no Government contract that I can think of that's not corrupt.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:43 am

    Hahahaha... yeah, because no body ever vaccinates children... that is why they are still dying of measels and rubela and polio... no... we don't want to protect our children from deadly viruses... I am sure the virus will be nice and wont permanently damage their young bodies...

    Ebola doesn't even kill people under 25 because it is just so nice.... unlike big pharma companies who obviously want to murder people wholesale because when everyone is dead they can... take their stuff... Rolling Eyes
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:05 pm

    GarryB wrote:Hahahaha... yeah, because no body ever vaccinates children... that is why they are still dying of measels and rubela and polio... no... we don't want to protect our children from deadly viruses... I am sure the virus will be nice and wont permanently damage their young bodies...

    Ebola doesn't even kill people under 25 because it is just so nice.... unlike big pharma companies who obviously want to murder people wholesale because when everyone is dead they can... take their stuff...    Rolling Eyes


    Indeed Garryb.


    because nobody ever vaccinate children.. With unproperly tested vaccines , that have only been tested on adults and only for 3 months before launching them for public.

    All those vaccines that you talk about against measels ,rubela ,polio , ebola , viruses  ,they were given to general population ONLY after those vaccines were properly tested their side effects over a period of 15 to 30 years on public ,and  more time later before giving them to children.

    So apparently you don't know the difference between a properly tested product versus a completely
    rushed one.. and perhaps ,that's because you suffer from a problem with your intellect and to make things even more different , those previous vaccines you talk about , they were not mandatory on population , contrary to what is happening now.  

    If you are so disconnected , from reason , to the point that even major employees of the pharma industry , tells you how corrupt their companies are , that they force this vaccines on population ,for money and politics.. if you still blindly trust in such companies.. then its perhaps because you feel great in supporting crime and corruption .   No  So if this is the case , then is a big problem with your morals and ethics , if you see nothing wrong with pharma companies pushing their unproperly tested vaccines that are killing many adults , now on in children  too ,for money ,power and politics..



    i like i told you a million times , plus one , that i don't oppose science and technology and properly
    tested and verified vaccines , that are offered to the population as a voluntary way. I only oppose
    genetical experiments /unproperly tested vaccines, that are killing many people and injuring many more and later forced also on children population .  this is madness and insanity ,that any company will give a vaccine for adults ,with just a couple of months of trials  , to give it on millions of children too , even after failing to proof their vaccine is even safe for adults  or ever works..                                                          .


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    Post  kvs Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:08 pm



    Anyone who swallows the line that people who recovered from a covid infection require vaccination is a fool.

    Really, look up the definition of a vaccine. It is not a drug against covid. It is an immune system trigger. The
    disease itself is an immune system trigger. Getting over an infection is better than any vaccine since a vaccine
    does not guarantee that you will not get the infection, it only reduces the chances of it being severe.



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    Post  Vann7 Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:57 pm

    kvs wrote:

    Anyone who swallows the line that people who recovered from a covid infection require vaccination is a fool.

    Really, look up the definition of a vaccine.   It is not a drug against covid.   It is an immune system trigger.   The
    disease itself is an immune system trigger.   Getting over an infection is better than any vaccine since a vaccine
    does not guarantee that you will not get the infection, it only reduces the chances of it being severe.





    is funny that video... because shows that even the Federal government agency , CDC .

    Does not recommend vaccination from some past viruses , if you get natural immunization after getting the virus

    So this throws out of the window a lot of the arguments of this blind fanatics , vaccu-avengers
    in this forum that push for everyone vaccination, with western experimental poison ,even against people will , regardless of people choices or wheather or not people already have immunity to the virus in question.

    is more powerful..
    natural immunization > artificial vaccine immunization.


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    Post  kvs Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:23 pm



    The democracy fig leaf has come off Australia.

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    Post  Vann7 Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:01 pm

    kvs wrote:

    The democracy fig leaf has come off Australia.  


    That's the kind of tyranny that garryb supports, of australia and canada brutality on population ,
    that just go outside to buy food. I saw a video of a pregnant women in advanced state ,being assaulted by police for not wearing face mask. Shocked

    Naturally does not take a genius to know why would she do that , to protect her baby ,that
    needs oxygen. still they nearly put a risk the life of his baby ,for those draconians laws australia
    promotes.

    All this draconian endless covid mandates that is exclusive of anglo nations , specially in australia and canada , as if they very scared of any new virus , covid or not , suggest something much more darker that is behind this policies.

    I see they are hiding something , a major plan they had for all those anglo nations with very small populations ,in comparison with the size of their territory. perhaps they are expecting a major biological war to start , in revenge, where china or russia or even other nations will attack them back for their unleashed covid19 virus on their nations . And that they expect that in this war , world war , the billionaires will have to flee to other more safer nations.. with far less population, and so far can't think of any other countries more ideal for world bankers and super billionaires ,behind this pandemic to escape , from a nuclear or biological war , and flee US or europe and move to australia ,new zealand and even canada , to avoid the major war they expecting.

    in such kind of war , china will have to invade australia and new zealand and capture all this criminals like rockefellers or rothchilds , gates and soros and many others that who master mind this pandemic , that flee there. and bring to justice all the criminals ,who were behind this pandemic and their genetical killer vaccines.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:37 am

    Blah Blah Blah.

    Get vaccinated and follow the rules, or expect the police to take action to make you follow the rules.... which is a big part of their job.

    Funny really because if that pregnant woman was a Navalny supporter how much sympathy would she get.

    In fact in this liberal western utopia should women and children still get more sympathy?

    She chose to ignore local rules regarding wearing masks... she didn't get pregnant on her own perhaps the father could have slipped on a mask and done what she needed to do so she could stay home safe from the virus.
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    Post  kvs Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:15 am



    Interesting. Even though it is an antigenic drift issue, there may be something wrong with the mRNA "vaccines".

    These GMO "vaccines" have a novel modality. They are not like other vaccines. It is possible that creating chimera
    cells that have covid spike vaccines is not triggering the immune system the way that an actual virus infestation does.
    In other words, the immune system is not responding to the chimera cells like it would if a live virus was active and
    hijacking cells to manufacture copies of itself.

    Modern medicine does NOT understand how the human chemical system works. We have some idea of some processes
    but if I ask whether the immune system can differentiate between a live virus infection and foreign virus proteins, I will not
    get any clear answer.

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    Post  Vann7 Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:18 pm




    more evidence of the tyranny of the vaccine dictatorship that Garryb is proud of..


    Canadian Police ARREST Mother in Front of Crying Children After Failing to Show Proof of Vaccination


    https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/1443628466428162054


    This is the "freedom loving world " that the anglo tyrannies states are promoting in the world.
    Cry me a river .. right garryb? just a stupid mother with 3 children? This is what garryb stand and support.. a covid19 tyranny ,where population forced to become laboratory rats of genetical experiments.. No

    Better to keep the nation "Safe" by arresting a mother as it was a criminal for not having a certificate , of being vaccinated with their poison.

    Is eye opening that just days ago , illegal unvaccinated immigrants were allowed to enter in texas.
    The anglo fascism behave better with illegal unvaccinated immigrants that enters in their countries , but legal residents don't dare to walk anywhere without a vaccine passport or will face jail as if they were criminals. No

    When even a communist china , becomes a better attraction to migrate for citizens of US, Australia and Canada , then you know there is something really wrong happening in the so called "free and democratic" nations. No

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    Post  kvs Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:50 pm

    https://www.sott.net/article/454481-Inventor-of-mRNA-technology-Vaccine-causes-lipid-nanoparticles-to-accumulate-in-high-concentrations-in-ovaries


    Prior to the study's disclosure, the public was led to believe by regulators and vaccine developers that the spike protein produced by mRNA COVID vaccines stayed in the shoulder where it was injected and was not biologically active — even though regulators around the world had a copy of the study which showed otherwise.

    The biodistribution study obtained by Bridle showed lipid nanoparticles from the vaccine did not stay in the deltoid muscle where they were injected as the vaccine's developers claimed would happen, but circulated throughout the body and accumulated in large concentrations in organs and tissues, including the spleen, bone marrow, liver, adrenal glands and — in "quite high concentrations" — in the ovaries.

    The mRNA — or messenger RNA — is what tells the body to manufacture the spike protein. The lipid nanoparticles are like the "boxes" the mRNA is shipped in, according to Malone. "If you find lipid nanoparticles in an organ or tissue, that tells you the drug got to that location," Malone explained.

    According to the data in the Japanese study, lipid nanoparticles were found in the whole blood circulating throughout the body within four hours, and then settled in large concentrations in the ovaries, bone marrow and lymph nodes.

    Malone said there needed to be monitoring of vaccine recipients for leukemia and lymphomas as there were concentrations of lipid nanoparticles in the bone marrow and lymph nodes. But those signals often don't show up for six months to nine years down the road, he said.

    The official line on the mRNA GMO "vaccines" is pure misinformation.

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    Post  Vann7 Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:30 pm

    and this is what what we are told will "save our lives" ,from covid, if we vaccinate with the super ultra "high tech" western vaccines . More troubles for mRNA  fanboys to explaining this..

    People should see what is inside of some moderna shots.. before they taking this crap.


    Will you believe kvs if i told you , independent laboratories have found , (just like japan found)
    metallic substances inside of moderna shots , but also living micro organism with tentacles
    inside ?  Shocked Shocked

    This thing is really sick . how can anyone defend this crap , is beyond my comprehension.

    A top laboratory in georgia ( the US state)  , asked a doctor specialist to help them understand ,what
    was they seeing under their microscope ,of moderna vials ,that they had and the images they got ,
    as creepy , like taken from an alien movie. Shocked

    Everyone grab this video and download it , before its deleted.  this is this is true ,is much more scary stuff than i though ,what they put in some of the moderna vaccines vials ,to be injected on population .

    using the aplication  https://www.allavsoft.com  will get it , or just a window display capture software
    like obs studio will also work.  

    New Stew Peters: Dr. Carrie Madej - First U.S. Lab Examines "Vaccine" Vials, Horrific Findings Revealed

    https://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2021/09/new-stew-peters-dr-carrie-madej-first-u-s-lab-examines-vaccine-vials-horrific-findings-revealed-2524291.html

    the doctor hired to investigate the moderna vials , found that the vaccine liquid suffer a chain chemical reaction that change in color ,in contact with light , found evidence of super conductive metals inside , and living micro organism inside . as if someone was really seeking to murder someone ,  with the content of a moderna vial, and wanted to really make sure ,who ever gets shot
    with the vial ,will not survive. the doctor warned that her findings is something she have never seen in her life and was very alarmed by it.  

    and if that wasn't enough they also verified johson and johson are lying about their vaccine ,that they discovered it was also using nanolipids like moderna and pfizer ,that appears like metalic graphene and a solid gel under microscope and similar things like the moderna findings.  

    They tested several vials from different cargo shipment of moderna ,with microscopes and found the same shit.

    it is as if psycopaths and people suffering from mental disorders ,  with full access to this factories   are intentionally enjoying the killing of people.   Suspect   but this can't be an "accident" of a machine that need to be "fixed". can be?

    if any of this findings is confirmed ...and not an april fools 1 joke ,then this is worthy of an egypt style revolution ,with millions in the streets , a wave of people , demanding the government ,lawmakers ,courts to step down and paralyze any nation vaccinating people with this s-h-i-t.

    Japan already returned millions of moderna shots for the same metallic contamination shit , this new ones ,appears to have more shit inside , than the ones of japan , with living organism with tentacles inside. Suspect

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    In more scandalous news..

    Popular Professor of international law Francis Boyle ,of the University of Illinois ,and investigator ,who drafted the  famous law in congress called..


    Biologicals Anti-terrorist act in 1989  

    In an interview , expose major evidence ,of several different important scientific studies , about the pandemic today ,  that the virus the world is facing today , show smoking gun evidence that today pandemic is a biological weapon , according to the major scientist studies.

    And in his conclusions , based on all the data he have is that the virus authors ,was was done in collaboration between University of North Carolina , Anthonny faucci ,American federal government deceases agencies like CDC , Australia Government scientist and chinese wuhan scientist.   Shocked

    US Biowarfare Act Author Studies Confirm Coronavirus Weaponized!



    -He describe how ,the biological anti terrorist act law ,he promoted in congress , was all motivated
    after he saw US military fort detrick biological weapons being used in africa and in united states against civilians.
    -he describe the corruption of the military ,FBI in covering all this scandals.
    -He describe how powerful senators ,were blackmailed , to not talk to him ,when he found official documentation ,that proof that US military was testing biological weapons on population , heavily used in AFrica.
    -He then mention how all US media and british media , did not talk again to him ,after they knew the grave accusations he was making , against the US scientist and the military bioweapons programs.
    -And all this criminal activity , of using biological warfare of cities in africa and in US , how FBI ,congress and military and media helped in covering it.
    - he then explains all this respiratory viruses in middle east,before covid19, previous respiratory viruses, how they were nearly all created by Fort detrick bioweapons labs.
    -speak about how US military recruited nazis ,for their biological warfare program.

    in summary he have scandalous information , that shows how US military have been testing biological weapons , on civilians for decades ,and how the US congress created obstacles ,for
    making the law more harder on criminals . basically the US congress   did not wanted death penalty ,for those that use military weapons on civilian population. Shocked  and dumbed the down the original resolution he drafted ,that was created by him precisely to stop US military from using biological weapons on civilians.

    He did acknowledge that US government , Australia and China cooperated together in creating military bioweapons. But his conclusion however is that , the virus had to come from wuhan ,and that china created the corona virus today , in response from US military doing the same , and creating their own super corona virus . and that then china got an accident and the rest is story.

    However his conclusions ,did not take into account other facts.. that anthony faucci himself predicted
    that trump administration was going to face a pandemic.. and that london opening ceremony olympics of 2012 ,was a complete mockery of population being infested by viruses and that it was dedicated to guess what ? to corana viruses fight and that aside of the freemason tons of symbols ,that british likes to throw at their spectacles , there was an entire show , dedicated to fearmonger population with viruses that attack children and nurses and doctors that act like robots , and even show creepy scenes of death babies ,in an olympic ceremony world wide.  his conclusions neither take into accout a whistleblower that told ,that the west freemasons elites , the super rich bankers ,was planning a major biological attack on china  ,back in 2010 ,that was designed to be very lethal on asian , and that they planned to do it all in a choreographed way .  but that western elites ,were annoyed ,that things were not happening in the way they planned. The reason given for this attack on china ,with a super virus ,was to stop china before it becomes to big and economically powerful to stop.

    Anyone with doubts that US military , was already pretty much experienced in doing terrorism ,by using biological weapons even against their own population ..  only need to look at this declassified papers in this report ,that is not even hidden ,from official us congress library of records.



    So the law proffessor investigations shows The US military was already using biological weapons on civilian population ,before this pandemic in africa and middle east.  and he names the viruses by their name.  So if this reports are all correct ,as the law proffessor claims.. then it shows ,that the US government , or at least their military , had previous track record of mass crimes against humanity , with bioweapons. which means that they already had , experience in doing very criminal things ,at mass scale ,including on their own population ,and so they could very well be behind of today pandemic . because if they did it earlier , and got away with it , what stop them doing that again and at a major level?

    in my conclusions , based of way more data ,than Professor of international law ,Fracis Boyle have..
    is that the anglo world , US,UK,Australia and Canada "cooperation with  chinese wuhan lab , even during the middle of trade war against china ,during both obama and trump administration. Is that
    this "cooperation" ,was nothing more than a trap , to create the narrative later ,with help of some scientist working in wuhan ,that china had an accident with a virus ,that spread in the entire world,
    and so with europe help ,force china to pay trillions of dollars in reparations damages..

    in other words ,the major motive ,of the anglo countries , to plan this pandemic today , their #1
    objective ,was to take down china economy , by isolating them from the entire world ,by accusing them of unleashing the covid19 virus. but there was even more reasons for the pandemic. so here they are..

    pandemic attack on china and the world reasons
    1) To bring down the #1 competition of the anglo world business world and collapse china economy ,
    with the help of a planted virus and political propaganda and media war of the anglo west.
    2) To implement a total control tyranny in the world by controlling their entire populations , with their fake vaccines poisoned mandatory vaccines.
    3) to flattern the bubble of the US economy in a controlled way .
    4) to get rid of the poors and blacks and elder people,that more pressure the US economy in social aid.
    5)to bring down Russia too, as a major bonus.

    This is in my opinion the real reasons we are facing a pandemic today , This is a continuation of the Trade war ,economical war , trade war of US against their major adversaries as Russia and more importantly china are. A case that when sanctions fails , bioweapons will do the talk.

    but to take down china ,was the most important piece , without taking down china first ,they risk a massive  risk , because china and russia could take advantage of the very high discontent of anglo western population ,australian and canadian populatio to destabilze those governments or even overthrow them. and then provide weapons or money to US ,UK and Australia and canada citizens to take down their governments.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:28 am

    more evidence of the tyranny of the vaccine dictatorship that Garryb is proud of..


    Canadian Police ARREST Mother in Front of Crying Children After Failing to Show Proof of Vaccination

    What is your problem... ten minutes before the arrest the children were probably crying because their mother didn't buy them an ice cream... free icecream for all children and women no longer need to obey the law because the worst crime in the world is to make children cry.

    The fact that she ignores the law suggests those children do have a lot of things to cry about because I bet she cheats on her partner and probably shoplifts too.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:51 pm

    Here's what's happening in the USA. Our Country is splitting in two, because of vaccine mandates (and other things).

    DENVER, COLORADO WILL FIRE POLICE OFFICERS NOT VACCINATED, UNDER THE CITY'S MANDATE
    Gov. Newsom announces California first state to require COVID vaccinations for K-12 students
    Newsom’s mandate comes weeks after he dodged a recall election effort over his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic

    Also The current plan would require students older than 12-years-old to receive the coronavirus vaccine in order to be able to attend class. This step would add the COVID-19 vaccine to the required list of childhood vaccinations required to attend school
    The vaccine requirement would be enforced after the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) gives the approval for different age groups to receive the shot while allowing religious and medical exemptions.
    With the mandate, California becomes the first state to require students to be vaccinated against COVID-19 to attend class.
    California announced in August that all school staff must provide a proof of full vaccination or be tested for COVID-19 at least once per week in order to teach in-person. Schools are required by the state to be in full compliance by Oct.15.
    New York City also recently implemented a vaccine mandate for teachers in the Big Apple, prompting a group of teachers to petition the U.S. Supreme Court to block the city's mandate.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gov-newsom-announces-california-first-state-require-covid-vaccinations-k-12-students?fbclid=IwAR3cvZDdH5ys6hNioO_blTOTzXA1aKwW8LQe_OrpsEg1VH5Bt2nCsr64JSs
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:54 pm


    It really looks like this is deliberate by the Biden Administration to get rid of Border Patrol, Nurses, Military, and everyone they are mandating getting a mask, for what motives??!!

    Border Patrol agents must be vaccinated by Nov or face being fired: Whistleblower
    Agents reportedly have until Nov. 1 to be fully vaccinated, or they can expect a pink slip

    "The people who have been busting their tails, enforcing our law, doing their job on the border – they're gonna get fired if they don't take the vaccine," Jordan told Fox News' Laura Ingraham.
    Jordan pointed out that migrants entering the U.S. illegally are given the choice as to whether or not to be vaccinated against the coronavirus, saying of the double standard, "That is how ridiculous the Biden administration has become."
    The purported deadline for Border Patrol agents to get vaccinated comes as the DHS struggles to manage the ongoing crisis at the southern border, and Republicans warn that terminating agents over President Joe Biden's vaccine mandate for federal workers could not come at a worse time.
    In a letter to DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, Jordan and Immigration and Citizenship subcommittee ranking member Rep. Tom McClintock, Calif., accused the Biden administration of "now openly targeting the heroic men and women of the U.S. Border Patrol" with the threat of pink slips.
    The congressmen noted that recruiting and hiring Border Patrol personnel has been a difficulty for several administrations due to the tough work it involves, and argued that the Biden administration is only exacerbating the problem.
    "It is simply unbelievable that the Biden Administration will allow COVID-positive illegal aliens to surge across the border but will terminate dedicated law-enforcement officers who do not comply with President Biden's mandate," Jordan and McClintock wrote.
    The pair told Mayorkas, "We hope that for the safety or our country that you see the error in this decision, choose to support the heroes of CBP who put their lives on the line every day, and find reasonable accommodations for CBP officers who do not choose to comply with this mandate for personal or medical reasons."
    The Department of Homeland Security did not immediately respond to Fox News' request for comment

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/border-patrol-agents-told-get-covid-vaccinated-face-being-fired-whistleblower?fbclid=IwAR3Lc2C1HpFXxH1Rxc2872L6eGBp3leOxqOHaqcRvucyIvyVL5q-IMUgCnk

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    Post  kvs Sat Oct 02, 2021 1:59 pm

    Disgusting abuse of power. These freaks are calling the mRNA products "vaccines" as if they are just like all of the other ones. This is gross
    misrepresentation of what they are. See the article I linked above. Why the Hell are these GMO scams even needed? Unsafe and unproven
    is a valid description of the mRNA products. The criminal chutzpah of these maggot politicians to foist this trash on the public without any
    long term tests.

    No, these mRNA concoctions were not essential to provide anti-covid vaccines. The AstraZeneca vaccine was there from the beginning.
    I am not going to even advocate the safer Sputnik V since that is too much hurt pride in the west. Pride cometh before a fall.

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    Post  Vann7 Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:26 pm

    honestly im clueless what the five anglo nations are doing . Because even from an evil point of view , it does not make any sense to continue with this pandemic operation , if europe is not cooperating ,and labeling china as "responsible" for the pandemic.  Not even the republican party or many key players are not cooperating with this pandemic .  Texas and florida are pushing back against this mandatory pandemic  , then pushing your own military to forced vaccinations against their own will , what can go wrong?

    like cowboy daughter says , the nation is very divided ,in times they need to be united in crime and terror ,  if they want to fully control population and this is a very risky operation ,what the democrats and some republicans that helped binden steal the election are pushing.

    What the democrats and federal government are doing with this poison vaccines they pushing , that everyone is becoming more and more aware ,including doctors ,is encouraging a new american revolution . They even pissing their allies in europe .

    @and for those who asked..

    my problem is ,when population ignore the dangers of the time we are living ,and don't see the
    very dangerous trap ,that this mandatory vaccinations in all living things in a nation, represent for a nation future..  This forced vaccinations forced on all population , regardless if it is done by America or china , or Russia , is a double edge sword , because creates the conditions ideal ,for when a tyranical govervent take power ,to completely get rid of any political opposition and a millions in their population ,using this unlimited powers ,now western leaders have over what substances ,will go inside the blood of their entire population.  what could go wrong ?

    That just one person get the unlimited power to murder hundred of millions of civilian women and children using mandatory vaccinations at any time they choose , now or years later and later blame a new virus or mutation on the the deaths in population.

    There is absolutely no excuse , for any government in the world , no matter how good they claim ,
    their intentions are ,to take authority over peoples bodies and people health , what goes inside their blood.. never such a thing should be allowed..  ever . not even in the middle of a war .  is your body and your choice , people should be allowed to choose.. and those scared of viruses , then should stay in their homes..  aside , There is absolutely no excuse for the anglo nations or europe , to force mandatory vaccinations ,with so many alternative medicine that exist ,that is 99% effective in stopping covid19 from growing and become more viral in the body.. Medicine that is being vanned by the nations promoting mandatory vaccinations.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:10 pm

    kvs wrote:Disgusting abuse of power.   These freaks are calling the mRNA products "vaccines" as if they are just like all of the other ones.    This is gross
    misrepresentation of what they are.   See the article I linked above.   Why the Hell are these GMO scams even needed?  Unsafe and unproven
    is a valid description of the mRNA products.   The criminal chutzpah of these maggot politicians to foist this trash on the public without any
    long term tests.  

    No, these mRNA concoctions were not essential to provide anti-covid vaccines.   The AstraZeneca vaccine was there from the beginning.
    I am not going to even advocate the safer Sputnik V since that is too much hurt pride in the west.   Pride cometh before a fall.

       

    I live in western europe, and i have not taken my offered vaccine for the same concerns.
    I am not anti-vaccination in general.
    but that i also have personal concern's how fast the MRNA vaccinations where rolled out.
    And how any questions and concerns about the abscensce of any long-term consequences of these pushed vaccinations will affect one's health.
    When even an small minority drops dead left and right, and the government's say:"it is still safe to use for the greater good"
    I honestly take two steps back from this stuff.

    I had my fair share of the government saying things i came into contact with was "safe to use".

    I want Sputnik V, they can keep the rest.

    I want to stress here, it is each their own decision to either take or not to take the vaccine.
    Nobody should be judged one way or another.

    Not taking the vaccine has made me unable to interact with my co-workers outside of work. As i am no longer able to attend restaurants, bars and the like without an Vaccination QR-code.
    I had to skip so far two such party's. My co-workers keep asking if i want to go. So i told them to just not ask me again untill i can get my hands on Sputnik V.
    Or like.....maybe never...
    Usually i am the first in line to poke my head up and say: "We are going drinking!?".

    I accept the consequences of not taking the vaccine. For me it was an conscious decision with the consequences in mind.
    An medical condition i have, is that my lungs over-react on foreign contaminants.
    Meaning for example too much house-dust, heavy smoke from cigarettes, etc.
    Not to mention tear gas and the likes.

    So with that in mind, I concluded i rather skip party's/events for now untill im vaccinated.
    I hear different story's from people at work that have had Covid.
    Some experience an mild flu, others end up in hospital. So i rather not find out one way or another.
    So for now anyway while the rest goes out i just are at home enjoying an drink and playing some games on the PC.

    That said, and for pure arguement's sakes here.
    The forced vaccination's and QR-code system's to be able to enter facility's that have an societal role is an form of segregation.

    For example, I refused indeed the government vaccination.
    I contacted the vaccination program. That i requested Sputnik V.
    I was informed it was unavailable, and if i refused this one i would not get another chance.
    I agreed, and if it was possible to put me on an list to call me when sputnik V became available.
    That was not possible, And i was informed if i did not take it. I could not request an QR-Code banning me from most places.
    The feeling here where a bit........ Orwellian.

    I contacted also my doctor, but he said he could not do much about it either.

    Then screw it right?.
    Ill save the money up to buy whatever comes after the RTX3000 fammily of 3d cards.

    Explained all of this to my co-workers too, And while they took the vaccine.
    they understand the reasoning i chose not to take it.


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    Post  kvs Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:07 pm

    The whole "vaccine" business is grotesque. All of the sudden nobody has any choice of vaccine. Since when was that
    normal? In Canada the regime has approved AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson adenovirus vector vaccines, but I cannot
    take them because the former is not offered as a first dose and the latter is simply not available. This is total BS. I am
    willing to pay to procure those vaccines, but since the vaccination program is a government run racket I am not
    given the choice.

    You are being fed the same line of BS. All of your "freedom of choice" is a clown show. Your and my choices are at the
    leisure of the rotten elites and their agendas. Too bad so many suckers think that they have unbounded choices
    and are in charge of their lives.

    Anyone who dismisses the above as advanced stage Dunning-Kruger can go and get stuffed. I have enough chemistry
    and physics qualifications to be a skeptic and to cut through the "don't worry, we know better" BS. Medicine is very messy
    and humans are groping in the dark. Testing is all we have to give us information about the efficacy and risks of any "medicine".
    According to every ethical and logical standard, given the absence of long term validation of mRNA "vaccines" and the availability
    of vaccines based on other designs (e.g. adenovirus vectors) there is zero justification for ramming mRNA contrivances down
    everyone's throat.

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