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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:41 pm

    flamming_python wrote:...Maybe the opinions of other doctors in the country differ however, but they're not given a platform by the authorities to argue their points. Hence they take to YouTube instead....

    Any doctor who didn't buy his diploma will tell you to take the vaccine, this is not debatable  



    flamming_python wrote:...The attitude of the state to its people is absolutely cynical, they do not trust their own people. Why then should the people trust them?...

    Why should any government trust a rabble of illiterate morons who take their medical advice from YouTube?

    Cattle is not capable to think for itself, that's why they are cattle and why humans need to make decisions for them

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:27 am


    Euthanasia would be more appropriate but at least it's a start thumbsup

    People who promote refusal of vaccines should be made criminally responsible, suggests Russian official

    https://www.rt.com/russia/529739-anti-vaccine-calls-punishment/



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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:05 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Why should any government trust a rabble of illiterate morons who take their medical advice from YouTube? Cattle is not capable to think for itself, that's why they are cattle and why humans need to make decisions for them.

    On the individual level the anti-vaxxers have to take full responsibility for their ignorance, stupidity, and stubbornness.

    But on the social level if the level of anti-vaxx is significant then there is a problem and the society have to take a serious look at the issue, why it is happen, what is need to do, what it has not done to solve the issue ? Has the society carry out proper method and protocol in propaganda, education, enforcement, and gaining mutual trust ? What should be done to improve the situation ?

    Failure in vaccination cover and significant level of anti-vaxx is very detrimental to the society and economy of the country and whether you like it or not, you have to solve it.

    We are all born in ignorance and that is the social condition is one important factor that make us become enlightened or keep us in ignorance.
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    Post  PhSt Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:40 am

    not sure about you guys, but I know 2 people that I know personally who got really sick and died after getting the vaccine

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:05 am

    PhSt wrote:not sure about you guys, but I know 2 people that I know personally who got really sick and died after getting the vaccine

    The Sputnik vaccine?

    Did they get sick as in following vaccination, or sick from the virus at a later date?
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    Post  PhSt Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:33 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    PhSt wrote:not sure about you guys, but I know 2 people that I know personally who got really sick and died after getting the vaccine

    The Sputnik vaccine?

    Did they get sick as in following vaccination, or sick from the virus at a later date?

    Both from pfizer, got sick right after the vaccine, after a week of sickness one of them was diagnosed with blood clots, died after a few days at the hospital.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:40 am

    That's pretty shit

    My condolences..
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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:39 pm

    http://news.chinhphu.vn/Home/Viet-Nam-produces-first-batch-of-Sputnik-V-vaccine/20217/44725.vgp

    Viet Nam produces first batch of Sputnik V vaccine

    VGP - The first test batch of the Russian Sputnik V vaccine against coronavirus was successfully produced in Viet Nam, according to a joint statement of the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF) and VABIOTECH, one of Viet Nam’s leading pharmaceutical companies.

    The first validation samples taken from the produced batch will be shipped to the Gamaleya Center for the quality control.

    The Vietnamese Ministry of Health granted conditional approval of Sputnik V for emergency use on March 23, 2021, making it the second vaccine authorized by the ministry after AstraZeneca.

    Kirill Dmitriev, CEO of the RDIF said that RDIF and VABIOTECH are actively cooperating in the technology transfer process to provide easier access to Sputnik V for Vietnamese people.

    Dr. Dat Tuan Do, President of VABIOTECH said that cooperation between RDIF and VABIOTECH will help provide quality and affordable COVID-19 vaccine for Viet Nam and other Southeast Asian countries.

    To date, Sputnik V has been registered in 68 countries with a total population of over 3.7 billion people.  

    Sputnik V is based on a proven and well-studied platform of human adenoviral vectors and uses two different vectors for the two shots in a course of vaccination, providing immunity with a longer duration than vaccines using the same delivery mechanism for both shots.

    Earlier, the Health Ministry sought partners with global vaccine producers in transferring knowhow in order to ensure vaccine security and future exports.

    Vabiotech was selected to start producing Sputnik V vaccine in Viet Nam with a capacity of five million doses a month.

    Lately, on July 15, Minister of Health Nguyen Thanh Long sent a letter to RDIF to introduce T&T Group as the negotiator for the purchase of 40 million doses of Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine from Russia.

    The Health Ministry asked RDIF to create optimal conditions for T&T Group, a Ha Noi-based multifield corporation, to buy the vaccine doses right in July, thus meeting Viet Nam’s urgent need in pandemic prevention and control.

    Viet Nam targets to have 150 million doses this year to vaccinate 75% of its population.

    Only 9 million doses have been received altogether since February, including the products of U.S., Russian, Chinese and British pharmaceutical companies. Altogether, Viet Nam has secured commitments for more than 120 million doses.

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    Post  Firebird Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:36 pm

    PhSt wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    PhSt wrote:not sure about you guys, but I know 2 people that I know personally who got really sick and died after getting the vaccine

    The Sputnik vaccine?

    Did they get sick as in following vaccination, or sick from the virus at a later date?

    Both from pfizer, got sick right after the vaccine, after a week of sickness one of them was diagnosed with blood clots, died after a few days at the hospital.  

    It gave my mother blood clots and hospitalised her for a few days. She's never had that before.
    England's Astra Zeneca one is prohibited for under 60s or under 50s in many countries.

    Pfizer sounds like a real Frankenstein's concoction where national health bodies have no idea what it does. Just that they get pressured politically by Uncle Sham.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:38 pm

    PhSt wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    PhSt wrote:not sure about you guys, but I know 2 people that I know personally who got really sick and died after getting the vaccine

    The Sputnik vaccine?

    Did they get sick as in following vaccination, or sick from the virus at a later date?

    Both from pfizer, got sick right after the vaccine, after a week of sickness one of them was diagnosed with blood clots, died after a few days at the hospital.  


    My condolences also.

    I took the Pfizer, and got really sick afterwards, and the lab that shows if perhaps having a clot was up, afterwards.

    If I had it to do over, would not take it.


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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:39 pm


    about 200 Samoan workers come to work on farms....


    Quarantined Samoan workers sing from Hobart hotel balconies

    21 Jul, 2021 10:48 PM

    A mystery musician inspired a spontaneous concert for Samoan guests undergoing isolation in a Hobart quarantine hotel.

    On Sunday, bystander Hemal Dangar captured the moment on video when 90 hotel balconies erupted in singing.

    The hotel rooms were filled with seasonal workers on the Bathurst St side of the Great Western Hobart.

    The guests can be heard singing the Samoan hymn E Sili, sili lou Atua (How great is our God) along with cries of "Hallelujah!"

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/quarantined-samoan-workers-sing-from-hobart-hotel-balconies/T2FCD6ONZ46LX3HBTN25CHLDEE/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0HPB4tPkDK802t5pohrJaCj_ImGew3imvVa266_3c751RiODQ1T6aIyBQ#Echobox=1626931353
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    Post  Vann7 Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:37 am

    The major problem in any vaccine discussion about whether to take it or not,
    are the charlatans , the ones that their only purpose in this discussion is clearly to deceive people ,
    and not to have any constructive discussion. people like papadragon is an example of that.


    i have told him a million times ,endlessly , that
    i don't oppose true vaccines , that are designed to help people , like the chinese and sputnik one
    or the cuban one. mexico is also doing a true vaccine too .

    i only oppose killer so called mRNA "vaccines" ,experimental genetical experiments from pfizer and moderna, from companies that already had a major bad record in the past , with their ethics and their killing of people with vaccines.


    pfizer (owned by soros like criminals ,one of the most corrupt wallstreets investors @blackrock) , that make his money in the most disgusting and criminal ways possible ,destroying business and nations , have been accused by south american government of financing liberal media , to do what papadragon do in this forum, to deceive , to lie to cheat .  this is a company that have been paying in lobbies millions and millions of dollars , to discret Sputinik vaccine
    in south america but also in corrupt deals ,involving land.. basically they were demanding land for vaccines on top of giving a ton of money to journalist and major news broadcasting media  across all latin america .  This was told by two governments in south america, Brazil and Argentina.  


    So if there anyone more anti vaxx  , than pfizer  , that they pay money , millons of dollars ,
    is south america in lobbies to discredit sputnik v there , according to ARgentina and Brazilian governments.  

    so go hide and run again mr papadragon as you always does  ,as you always do , you never debate anything , you only attack the person but never counter their arguments any discussion , because you have none. you are simply a loser troll , and will always be one.  pirat

    Russian top scientist behind sputnik ,already have said in open public ,that he don't know why
    pfizer won awards in the west as the "best vaccines" ,when kills many people. ?  confused

    i posted the link with the major headlines ,and challenge papadragon ,to debate that , and he just ran away to hide ,like cowards does ,whenever losing a discussion . When even Russia top scientist don't consider pfizer shot ,very safe , then why i have to think that somehow he is wrong and the west is right.. with all the mountain of evidence of people who died after taking a shot with western vaccines.. why all this blind cult for anglo western vacc industry ?

    papadragon is like are religious nut , science doesn't matter for blind  fanatics , they just stick to their ideas ,no matter all the evidence in the world you show them ,that mRNA vaccines is like playing a lottery with your life. if you happen to be the unlucky ones , then you will die.

    my bet is that papadragon real job is in a place like this..



    Internet trolls are real , people are actually paid for promoting lies . Laughing
    hired online actors , that main job ,is plant disinformation online, against the interest of "chosen people" that owns western pharma industry and media     lol1   Never PD have critisized nutanyahu over anything ,never have have critisized the west over ukraine or syrian conflict policies,  that smells bad, like he is one big undercover troll ,with some intentional disinformation agendas. So take his comments with mountain of salt ,nothing truth worthy come from him.   No

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    Post  Kiko Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:23 pm

    Russia ensures that it will meet its commitments to supply Sputnik V to Argentina, 23.07.2021

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Russia will meet its commitments to supply the coronavirus Sputnik V vaccine to all countries that acquired the immunizer, including Argentina, Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Peskov said at a press conference.

    "As far as compliance with commitments in foreign markets, including Argentina, will of course be met," he said.

    On July 22, the Argentine press reported that the government of the country at the beginning of July warned that it could cancel the agreement on the acquisition of Sputnik V vaccines if Russia does not supply the contracted doses.

    Peskov noted that "a delay took place", and assured that the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF, for its acronym ingelsas), which markets Sputnik V,"is in contact with its counterparts to solve all the inevitable problems".

    "We have always said that our priority is to meet the vaccination needs of Russians. As you know, now the general vaccination campaign has intensified considerably, citizen awareness is growing and the rate of vaccination is increasing more and more, " he added.

    Sputnik V is the second most widely applied vaccine in Argentina, behind China's Sinopharm.

    The country has so far received a total of 40 million immunizers.

    Since the first shipment of sera arrived in late December, half of the population received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.

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    https://mundo.sputniknews.com/20210723/rusia-asegura-que-cumplira-con-sus-compromisos-de-suministro-de-sputnik-v-a-argentina-1114416184.html
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    Post  kvs Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:56 pm

    Regarding the posts above reporting Pfizer and Moderna giving clots. In Canada this information is being suppressed. The AZ vaccine
    is claimed to be the only vaccine with this risk so it was been removed from the first dose program and is only given as a second dose
    to people who already got it earlier in the year. Not a single mention is made that Pfizer and Moderna have a blood clot risk.

    Given that two board members have reported 3 cases and that the total number of active board members here is lower than 100,
    the risk of clotting from Pfizer's "vaccine" is not 1 in a million but closer to 1 in 100. The western fake stream media is owned and
    operated by the same elite that is pushing the GMO mRNA "vaccines".

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    Post  Kiko Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:00 pm

    Peruvian President-Elect Wants to Launch Local Production of Sputnik V, 23.07.2021.

    LIMA (Sputnik) - Peruvian President-elect Pedro Castillo would like to begin domestic production of Russia's Sputnik V vaccine, his healthcare adviser, Hernando Cevallos, told Sputnik.

    "Castillo has already stated that we aspire to produce the vaccine in the country. We need biotechnology support to be able to develop it, but the interest is solid. In addition, we do not know how long the pandemic will last, how many waves will come, whether viral mutations will occur. As part of efforts to improve expertise, vaccine production comes first", Hernando Cevallos said in an interview.

    Apart from vaccines, the new government of Peru intends to develop wider healthcare cooperation with Russia, the official noted. He admitted that there are many problems in the Peruvian health sector, which lacks the necessary level of technology and equipment.

    "This is not an easy path, but we must sit down and talk with all the countries that can help us, without any ideological distinction, because health is linked to a dignified life and is a human right", Cevallos added, when asked about the new cabinet's plans for cooperation with Russia.

    Peru signed a deal on Tuesday to purchase 20 million doses of Sputnik V. The country is currently using Pfizer, Sinopharm and AstraZeneca shots in its vaccination campaign. Nearly 11 million out of 33 million Peruvians have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, with 4 million fully vaccinated.

    https://sputniknews.com/world/202107231083446872-peruvian-president-elect-wants-to-launch-local-production-of-sputnik-v/
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:27 pm

    kvs wrote:Regarding the posts above reporting Pfizer and Moderna giving clots.   In Canada this information is being suppressed.   The AZ vaccine
    is claimed to be the only vaccine with this risk so it was been removed from the first dose program and is only given as a second dose
    to people who already got it earlier in the year.   Not a single mention is made that Pfizer and Moderna have a blood clot risk.  

    Given that two board members have reported 3 cases and that the total number of active board members here is lower than 100,
    the risk of clotting from Pfizer's "vaccine" is not 1 in a million but closer to 1 in 100.    The western fake stream media is owned and
    operated by the same elite that is pushing the GMO mRNA "vaccines".  


    My left leg had hurt for a couple of weeks, and had fluid retention. I asked my dr. to check to see if I had a deep vein thrombosis. He had the lab drawn, and it was up. He said I either had had covid, or the vaccine caused it, which, he said: "They will never admit to."

    He told me to take baby aspirin daily, which I do, until I bleed too freely.

    I've also had pain at my right temple.

    In my opinion, my health is worse since I had the vaccine.

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    Post  Vann7 Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:30 pm

    Wow...  Russia is now facing a real major vaccine/public relations problem with ARgentinian government.

    THe Argenitnian government is saying Russia failed to deliver their promised 5 million vaccines in july ,
    that gamaleya institute is breaching their contract , and Russia response is like.. oh no worries and sidestep the issue , by saying the "contract will be fulfilled " No

    so you make a contract , with a company ,that they need to build the house in x date.
    but the company fails to meet the date lines , and say ,... no worries,, we will honor our contract confused

    So what is putin now going to do ? reverse time back , to honor his contract ? Laughing


    Delays happens , everywhere , for sure , but this shows how ill prepared was Putin's Russia economy and its tiny pharma industry for a major biological event , not just un-prepared for a global scale biological event , regardless if was a man made ,military bio war or a mother nature one .  but also totally unprepared for a local biological emergency too . Because Russia production rate of vaccines is just infinite small of what they need .

    Didn't i told that Russia is a very outdated economy nation ?


    read the next report...
    putin took an abandoned soviet era car plant ,and re-used it , to build a manufacturing plant of vaccines.  Laughing  So Russia , a nation with 140 millions citizens , could produce just 33 million vaccines
    as late as may 15 .  Shocked  And now this backward development of the country , investing most of the money Russia budget have , in pipelines to the west and military and luxury park and olympics political propaganda events , all this massive waste of money in outdated economic models ,national defense but also politics , is showing how disastrous , was the way  Putin developed his country , that need to re-use soviet era car plants ,to manufacture life saving vaccines.    No

    This incompetence , of  russia pharma industry , in production capability , and to get enough qualified staff ,to work in them , is going to byte hard Russia ,at short ,medium and long term , the perception of the world about Russia reliability as a country ,they can trust for help , in case of an emergency.  
    In Venezuela ,the problems are even worse ,for russia , that  only sends vaccines there at water drop count. 10,000 here , 20,000 there. every month.  Shocked

    None of this things will be happening , if Russia had the correct people , managing the nation future at the top ,a modern economy focused nation , that invest their budget in things that really matters , things that very few countries can do , or things that no one have done before and modernize their industries ,as china have been doing , non stop.  Russia needs an education revolution , focus in that , and a  modern industrial revolution  .  Putin's incredibly outdated economic model ,a commodities focused nation of energy ,mining and food is what is costing russia the pain in the ass ,and headaches is facing today. No  and not mentioning ,that is also the reason ,why russia is struggling
    so much in the world , to make alliances , and to convince others to respect russia interest in the world.  


    this is not good news , but another proof of incompetence of the Russian government.
    Russia is one of the very rare nations in the world ,that fails , even when winning.
    they can produce a winning vaccine , but fails big time ,in becoming a reliable nation for
    doing business with.   No

    Can do rockets to space , but fails miserably in execution if all they use them is for taxi to the iss.
    can win more gold medals in olympics , but those events fails big time ,in helping russia ,improve their image in the world to pull nations into their orbit, as their president hoped . Can produce killer weapons , but they become totally useless if not used against those attacking their military and  earn respect for their nation , and nation interest.

    This report is just more evidence , of the many that there is , that Rissia is an outdated nation ,
    a developed and underveloped nation at the same time. Russia is a very imbalanced and innefficient and unproductive way . and this is only possible ,when is run by government ,that have no clue what is doing. It have all the scientist talent , they need to win , but fails miserably in execution ,because that talent is not used correctly in the right places ,and no investment done to produce the scientific talent Russia need in the quantity they need.  

    and the west is very aware of all this weakness and limitations of Russia.
    this is why obama said. what does Russia make?  and laugh about it. because russia is not a true
    industrial power with an economy that can be called modern. And this weakness is what makes
    so easy the west , to pull nations into its orbit , because russia is not an option because is a very limited industrial power ,and that is heavily dependent on the soviet era industrial infrastructure.

    This report , does not help Russia crusade in the world ,to be taken seriously ,as a reliable nation
    they can count in case of any emergency and security problem.

    COVID-19 vaccine: Here's why Russia is struggling to make Sputnik
    V doses




    Transforming the site of what once was a Soviet-era car factory into a state-of-the-art facility churning out Russia's COVID-19 vaccine Sputnik V was the easy bit. Making doses in bulk, finding qualified staff and getting equipment have been much bigger headaches for Moscow-based biotech firm R-Pharm and other private Russian companies picked to make the country's flagship shot to fight the pandemic.

    President Vladimir Putin has trumpeted the vaccine around the world, and said in March that Russia had signed agreements for the production of 700 million doses of Sputnik V vaccine abroad. But Russia had produced just 33 million vaccines as of May 12 and exported fewer than 15 million, according to a Reuters tally that counted each vaccine as consisting of two doses.

    Russia's output is much lower than the hundreds of millions being made each month by Pfizer and AstraZeneca. Interviews with four manufacturers and two people involved in the production process and Russia's supply chain highlight how difficult it is to make Sputnik V and ramp up production.

    The problems are a warning to foreign partners -- including in India -- that are planning to mass produce the vaccine and those countries relying on Moscow to supply their inoculation programmes. With the United States and European countries focused on vaccinating domestic populations, Russia has stepped in the breach, offering shots to more than 50 countries, from Latin America to Asia.


    https://www.businesstoday.in/industry/pharma/story/covid-19-vaccine-here-why-russia-is-struggling-to-make-sputnik-v-doses-295812-2021-05-14

    Any nation in the world , will think twice after this report , before doing any business with russia.
    what's good about developing many good vaccines ,if you can't produce them in meaningful numbers.? No

    This big problems Russia face , in their own management of their pandemic , is the best example
    of the entire nation development , that is great in knowledge and great at building new things , but that fails big time in execution , because of the bad management of the government.Neutral



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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:40 pm


    So why are you getting upset over it, Vann?

    Aren't vaccines just a sinister conspiracy by Jewish lizard men to install chips in people which will prevent them from understanding that Earth is flat?

    Isn't it good thing?

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    Post  Vann7 Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:06 pm

    Cowboy's daughter wrote:

    In my opinion, my health is worse since I had the vaccine.

    oh but you can't say that in this forum , because the trolls army will call you

    Antivaxxer and conspirational nut.    lol1


    They refuse to see reality ,(or they know and just simply paid trolls)  that this anglo western pharma vaccs are not remotely safe as the western pharma claim they are and are not only injuring thousands , but killing people people.
    so consider yourself lucky that it wasn't worse , because other poor souls , don't even
    have a time to tell about it . mRNA vaccines can kill faster ,than any virus in the planet
    could ever dream to do. as fast a 2 hours , after taking the mRNA shot people have died
    and no hospital in the world or doctor , can rescue people vaccinated with the western vaccs,
    if they happen to be in the few thousands who died quickly after the shot.

    just think about that.. a cobra snake if byte you , the poison kills you 2 hours later , this is how lethal the anglo western pharma vaccines can be. oh yeah , in just a few thousands of billions that can experience that no? but this is not any consolation for those that happen to be in the unlucky list who died after the shot..   fortunately for you ,you can be healed , anything can be cured , including cancer or aids , but is covered , by western media .but still is disappointing how all this western mafia in the their health industry is remaining silent  ,about this major experiment with human lives being run , before own own eyes . a major civil war ,will be need to stop this genetical experiments vaccinations on people and bring to justice all this behind the pandemic we are facing today. it doesn't look like a nature thing , but a human staged pandemic event , and you can see that , from a mile , from  the mountain of lies and manipulation of the facts ,the west have gone , from making the virus worse than it is , by inflating their numbers  ,to justify mandatory vaccinations.



    Given that two board members have reported 3 cases and that the total number of active board members here is lower than 100,
    the risk of clotting from Pfizer's "vaccine" is not 1 in a million but closer to 1 in 100. The western fake stream media is owned and
    operated by the same elite that is pushing the GMO mRNA "vaccines".




    Yep , and a few dozens of families controls the anglo western economy.
    BlackRock hedge funds , look at all the shares they own , is near impossible to look at a major big company in western anglo world ,that they don't own a big part of its shares. the owners of apple , owns intel , own AMD , owns media industry , owns the military industrial complex , and own the pharma industry . the head of the snake , had to be this hedge funds companies like BLACKROCK
    , and rockefellers families , that controls a big enough chunk of anglo western economy ,to have a big enough influence over their politics , policies and laws. including this vaccines ,they now forcing population to take using manipulated statistics , to panic the population with the virus.






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    Post  Kiko Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:38 am

    The distributor of Sputnik V and the Ministry of Health of Argentina agree to accelerate the supply of the Russian vaccine, 23.07.2021.

    From the Russian Direct Investment Fund stressed that"there are no plans to review or terminate the contract".

    The Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), which is dedicated to the distribution and sale of the Sputnik V vaccine, has agreed with the Ministry of Health of Argentina to accelerate the supply of doses to the Latin American nation. In a joint statement issued after a virtual meeting on Friday, the parties reaffirmed their commitment to cooperate to "minimize the impact of the pandemic by vaccinating as many people as possible."

    The RDIF stressed that" there are no plans to review or terminate the existing contract "with Argentina on the batches of Sputnik V and assured that it is working with the producers of the vaccine "to continue with the uninterrupted supply."

    It also thanked the ministry for recognizing the " fundamental role played by Sputnik V in the real vaccination campaign in Argentina, where it has demonstrated its high efficacy and exceptional safety."

    In addition, the Ministry of Health of Argentina detailed that as a result of this commitment, they managed to boost local production and currently the country has "almost two million doses of both components approved or in the process of approval for prompt distribution."

    "Production in the country makes the Argentine pharmaceutical industry a regional leader, capable of providing high quality medicines and generating employment," said the health authority of the South American nation.

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    Post  andalusia Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:05 am

    I live here in Louisiana, US. I haven't taken any vaccine shots as I am suspicious.

    But if I have to take a shot, I want to know is the Johnson and Johnson vaccine safer than the Moderna and the others vaccines since it doesn't contain MRNA?

    Is the Johnson and Johnson as safe as the Sputnik V?

    I am reluctant to take a vaccine and I have never caught the virus but I am concerned about the Delta strain.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:09 am

    Vaccinated people make up 75% of recent COVID-19 cases in Singapore, but few fall ill

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/vaccinated-people-singapore-make-up-three-quarters-recent-covid-19-cases-2021-07-23/

    In short, for the case of Singapore, vaccinated people (fully or partially vaccinated) can still have covid again. But the vaccine does give the people increase resistance against the virus and reduce the damage of the illness, enable them to defeat the attack of the virus.

    Not to mention that the vaccinated people still can carry the virus and still can spread the virus to others.

    From the article it can be argued vaccination is effective against the pandemic, but it is not the Wunderwaffe against the disease. Proper lockdown and preventive policy from individual to social level, with centralized and organized efforts from the society is critical to contain the disease. Only with that the vaccine can express their full power and the drug-resistant mutations can be prevented.

    You cannot use the vaccine as some sort of "passport" or some sort of excuse to sabotage the lockdown for your own selfish business profit. That attitude is essentially pushing the working people and the society to danger for your own profit and interest.

    To be honest, the reason behind anti-lockdown arguments is simple: profit over people. The profit over people of the western oligarchs is the main reason for the spread of covid-19. And the main victim of the disease are the poor and working people, and the medical staffs who bear the burnt of the disease while the western oligarchs are sheltered in their own safe net.
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    Post  Mir Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:56 am

    andalusia wrote:I live here in Louisiana, US.  I haven't taken any vaccine shots as I am suspicious.  

    But if I have to take a shot, I want to know is the Johnson and Johnson vaccine safer than the Moderna and the others vaccines since it doesn't contain MRNA?

    Is the Johnson and Johnson as safe as the Sputnik V?

    I am reluctant to take a vaccine and I have never caught the virus but I am concerned about the Delta strain.


    J&J vaccine is a real vaccine. "It is a viral vector vaccine based on a human adenovirus that has been modified to contain the gene for making the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19."

    Moderna and Pfizer are not real vaccines or rather they use a untested method in creating a vaccine. "An RNA vaccine or mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccine is a type of vaccine that uses a copy of a natural chemical called messenger RNA (mRNA) to produce an immune response. The vaccine transfects molecules of synthetic RNA into immunity cells. Once inside the immune cells, the vaccine's RNA functions as mRNA, causing the cells to build the foreign protein that would normally be produced by a pathogen (such as a virus) or by a cancer cell."

    I'm not a medical doctor but J&J would be safer and more convenient to use although it does have known side effects. They all do. You can also consider that you probably have a 99% chance to survive the virus if your general health is not compromised. Ultimately the choice is yours.

    I live in South Africa and in all probability my wife and I recently had the Delta variant (no testing). It was like a heavy cold and we took quite a while to recover.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:07 pm

    @Mir: that is worrying. Have you meet with the medical doctor ?
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    Post  Mir Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:09 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:@Mir: that is worrying. Have you meet with the medical doctor ?

    I do appreciate your concern (I really do) but I am not worried at all. I'm not that young anymore but I tend to avoid medical doctors! Laughing
    I am not a fitness fanatic but I normally try to eat healthy stuff including meat and I stopped smoking years ago.


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