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    Post  kvs Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:39 am

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/cdc-hold-emergency-meeting-after-100s-suffer-heart-inflammation-following-covid-vaccines

    Update (2000ET): The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Thursday that it will convene an "emergency meeting" of its advisers on June 18th to discuss rare but higher-than-expected reports of heart inflammation following doses of the mRNA-based Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.

    The new details about myocarditis and pericarditis emerged first in presentations to a panel of independent advisers for the Food and Drug Administration, who are meeting Thursday to discuss how the regulator should approach emergency use authorization for using COVID-19 vaccines in younger children.

    As CBS reports, the CDC previously disclosed that reports of heart inflammation were detected mostly in younger men and teenage boys following their second dose, and that there was a "higher number of observed than expected" cases in 16- to 24-year-olds. Last month, the CDC urged providers to "ask about prior COVID-19 vaccination" in patients with symptoms of heart inflammation.

    Spamming the whole body with mRNA GMO-cell viral protein production is criminal. There should be no action in the heart tissues since
    the virus does not attack the heart. Next step is to have the brain GMO'd and inflamed due to immune reaction because mRNA
    "vaccines" are just such a brilliant concept. That we are not hearing anything about brain problems is because, thankfully, the
    blood-brain barrier appears to be preventing the spread of the lipid drops carrying the mRNA into the brain.



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    Post  lancelot Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:02 am

    You could tell this by looking at the data leaks which have come out lately.
    To be honest when I heard how the mRNA vaccine works by forcing the body to create these spikes I thought the mechanism in itself was likely problematic.

    When you consider that there are vaccines out there which work using principles which already were approved, be it the inactivated vaccines like the Chinese one, or the adenovirus vector vaccines like Sputnik-V, one has to wonder how could they fast track this method which was only being used in not approved experimental cancer vaccines. It is a giant experiment at the public's expense for what might be the vaccine equivalent of asbestos.

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    Post  Vann7 Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:22 pm

    This is the real reason US is calling covid19 a "chinese virus" and have been promoting this fake
    narrative of an "Accident" in wuhan to blame for the pandemic.

    today trump is demanding china to pay $10 Trillions dollars in reparation damages ,for the damages
    that their supposed lab leak , caused the world. Rolling Eyes


    China response response , should be ,that they will not pay a single dime , to US , or anyone over
    their false claims of false accident in wuhan. that if they want to solve the problem , they need to look
    at themselves in the mirror and allow an open international investigation into their fort detrick weapon labs facilities , and investigate the wide reports of a major accident around the facilities , with a respiratory illness decease  that cause the hospitalizations of thousands and with people deaths.

    US is trying to keep the attention on unproven conspirations about china wuhan lab , china response should be to keep people attention on facts widely reported in american media , of a major big accident that happened around fort detrick ,with an respiratory illness epidemy that cause many deaths and the closure of their military laboratory base just a few months earlier before china noticed a virus in wuhan..

    china also should continue repeating that a 300 american military delegation was present at wuhan ,just weeks before they noticed a virus in wuhan.  

    keeping the attention of this two facts..
    1) fort detrick surroundings respiratory illness incident that caused thousands of deaths in summer 2019 ,months earlier before the wuhan virus was noticed.
    2) 300 soldiers ,some of them likely the same military base of maryland present at the crime scene , just weeks before the the virus officially start to spread in china.

    anyone that connects those 2 dots , will notice a really nasty "coincidences" that does fit in the narrative ,that the entire pandemic was planned and that it was americans /british who started it on china , because both of them where present at wuhan military olympics , and in the same place ,where the virus first was noticed by china.

    Feeling vindicated, Trump demands China pay $10trn in global Covid-19 reparations, calls Fauci ‘science fiction’
    https://www.rt.com/usa/526245-trump-china-covid-reparations/

    this is not going to end well , because i don't see how US is going to get away with this by accusing china of any wrong doing ,when all the scandalous evidence point in the direction of a major setup ,
    US started ,to frame china with a virus accident to force them later to pay reparations damages for it.

    today pandemic is an inside job ,  and orchestrated by the same people behind world trade center
    terrorist attacks..  

    it was antonny faucci himself ,that told in an university conference in 2018-2019, that Trump will face a pandemic during his presidency.. he told that months before the pandemic start. how he knew that ? because it was all planned . thats why and to target china and later blame them with an accident , was the goal.  unfortunately for trump , major powers in europe , their governments already have spoken , saying they found clear evidence , that the virus did not started in china , that they have proof that it was already running wild in their countries. So this declarations of europe will have to be reversed in order to blame china for a virus that did not started in their country , but in the west and highly likely in US.

    This pandemic is a continuation of US and Trump economic war to stop china . they started a world wide pandemic ,with a lab manipulated virus , that they were hopping that it was going to destroy china economy forever. the virus explode in china in the worse possible timing "by coincidence" of course ,when chinese new year was about to start and people were going to return to their cities across all china for vacations , maximizing the damage of the virus , by being spread across all cities fast ,during chinese vacations.

    this stealthy biological attack on china could have not been possible to be done , in another way without triggering major suspicion towards being an act of war, if for example only china , russia and iran ,venezuela , cuba have the virus and nothing happens to europe and america and nato countries.
    The anglo west believed ,they were much better prepared to handle a virus ,they very well understood , how to counter it. and that friendly fire was necessary , including its own nation , in order to hide their dirty hands from the attack.

    the fact that US and UK are falsifying their covid19 numbers ,artificially inflating the numbers to sky high , and this is confirmed by american doctors and funerary services too , shows ,they are lying the world and their own citizens with what is really happening in the west. And those that are caught manipulating a crime scene , as US did..

    1) being present exactly in the crime scene at ground zero ,where the virus began in china.
    2) manipulating the covid19 numbers ,to force lockdowns and mandatory vaccinations.
    3) being the first ones to come with an explanation of who is to blame for the virus.. of couse china.
    4)that they are in a campaign to sabotage vaccines not made by them.

    shows a clear and very dishonest and malicious intentions to profit from this world wide pandemic by deceiving world population with lies. if they need to lie and lie and lie ,so much , then their own actions expose them , that they are manipulating this world wide pandemic ,for their own benefit and put into perspective how heavily active they are into diverting world attention from them towards china. so it makes the accusers in the west ,the number one suspect , of being behind of this pandemic. their own actions , of dishonestly ,manipulation , shows you can't trust anything they claim and that they are likely involved in this world wide pandemic.
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    Post  kvs Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:57 pm

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/an-orchestrated-hoax_3846921.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge

    The first question to ask is: How did we get a scientific and media consensus that SARS-CoV2 originally came from the Wuhan meat market? The answer is a group letter signed by leading virologists that appeared in the reputable science publication The Lancet. This article dismissed theories that suggested SARS-CoV2 might have come from the Wuhan lab as “conspiracy theories” that had were flatly rejected by the scientific community.

    Apparently convinced they had to “listen to the science,” the Lancet statement convinced media around the world to revile public figures, especially politicians such as Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), for even asking for an investigation into where COVID-19 came from. Cotton was almost universally dubbed a kook for even raising the possibility of “debunked” and “discredited” theories.

    Digital media promptly imposed its strict regime of restriction, banning, shadowbanning, and deplatforming of users who were deemed to share such “misinformation.” Acting on the recommendation of its so-called fact checkers, Facebook took down millions, perhaps tens of millions, of posts supposedly conveying the false notion that SARS-CoV2 might have leaked out from a lab.

    But what Vanity Fair exposes is the behind-the-scenes mechanism for how that Lancet statement was produced. According to the article, it was organized by a zoologist named Peter Daszak, himself involved in U.S. government-funded research aimed at the making of deadly viruses in labs. Daszak has worked in close collaboration with Ralph Baric of the University of North Carolina. Daszak’s group, EcoHealth Alliance, has worked directly with China’s Wuhan laboratories to research coronaviruses, and potentially make them more contagious and more lethal.

    The ostensible purpose of such “gain-of-function” research is to study viruses, to understand them better, and to develop better cures for pandemics that might arise naturally. But of course, such research is very dangerous, because viruses could through accident or negligence be released and cause the very pandemics they are designed to prevent. Alternatively, such research can be exploited for military purposes, because lethal viruses also make for a powerful weapon of biological warfare.

    When Daszak learned that a virus was causing global havoc, he moved quickly to line up a group of virologists to declare, without any persuasive evidence whatever, that COVID-19 had a natural origin. It might seem puzzling why prominent scientists would agree to sign a letter taking a position on something for which there is no valid scientific evidence. Why would they do this?

    The one-word answer is: money. Figures like Daszak and institutions like EcoHealth Alliance that receive large amounts of government money typically package those funds into sub-grants that are dispersed among researchers and research institutions around the country. Consequently, there’s a large group of virologists who are, in a sense, in Daszak’s back pocket. They have a financial vested interest in doing what he wants, and moreover, they, like Daszak, have a stake in camouflaging the possibility that their type of work caused a global pandemic with millions of deaths and untold ruin in its wake.

    Not only did Daszak organize the Lancet statement, but he did so, according to Vanity Fair, “with the intention of concealing his role and creating the impression of scientific immunity.” In an email addressed to Baric, Daszak said, “No need for you to sign the ‘Statement’ Ralph.” Daszak explained that neither he nor Baric should sign the declaration “so it has some distance from us and therefore doesn’t work in a counterproductive way.”

    Daszak added, “We’ll then put it out in a way that doesn’t link it back to our collaboration so we maximize an independent voice.” Baric agreed, responding, “Otherwise it looks self-serving and we lose impact.” In the end, Baric didn’t sign. Daszak did. And at least six of the others who signed the statement either worked at, or had received funding from, EcoHealth Alliance, according to Vanity Fair.

    What we have here is a group of scientists actively involved in cooking up potentially deadly viruses, and possibly involved in a dangerous collaboration with the Wuhan lab that may have helped cause the death of millions, working in concert to create a false public impression of scientific consensus, when they knew perfectly well that there was no such consensus.

    Trust the science...

    Yeah, right.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:02 am

    https://www.rt.com/russia/526313-covid-mutated-virus-treatment/

    Covid-19 has mutated significantly, and the virus is now much harder to treat than it used to be. That’s according to the head of Moscow’s Kommunarka Hospital, which last year became the city’s main coronavirus treatment facility.

    “This makes us think that the virus has also changed and has mutated in this year and a half,” he said, before encouraging people to get vaccinated against the disease.

    According to Protsenko, the Kommunarka hospital is now filled with a large number of elderly patients, as well as people who are overweight or diabetic. Furthermore, collective immunity in the capital is still under 50%, he said.

    According to the official numbers, Russia recorded 12,505 new cases nationwide on Friday – the highest figure since February 22. The capital is bearing the brunt of the latest wave, with 5,853 new infections detected in just 24 hours – 47% of all cases recorded. Moscow is home to just 10% of the country’s population.

    However, perhaps most worryingly, Moscow’s coronavirus spread, measured by the so-called R rate, soared to 1.6 in the past 24 hours – the highest seen since September 30 last year.
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    Post  Vann7 Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:16 am

    kvs wrote:https://www.theepochtimes.com/an-orchestrated-hoax_3846921.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge

    The first question to ask is: How did we get a scientific and media consensus that SARS-CoV2 originally came from the Wuhan meat market? The answer is a group letter signed by leading virologists that appeared in the reputable science publication The Lancet. This article dismissed theories that suggested SARS-CoV2 might have come from the Wuhan lab as “conspiracy theories” that had were flatly rejected by the scientific community.

    What we have here is a group of scientists actively involved in cooking up potentially deadly viruses, and possibly involved in a dangerous collaboration with the Wuhan lab that may have helped cause the death of millions, working in concert to create a false public impression of scientific consensus, when they knew perfectly well that there was no such consensus.

    Trust the science...

    Yeah, right.


    yeah right..  but seem to approve that piece of garbage propaganda ,as if media propaganda
    was better than "scientific" propaganda?  lol1

    There is no problems with science , the problems is always politics ,when contaminate /bribe
    scientist to tell the western version of the "Truth" , then you get fantasy stories and not facts.

    None truthers sites of wuhan lab investigation ever covers , the confirmed accidents in the west , the article don't mention either that it was CNN the first "source of information " that originated the
    wuhan lab "Leak Accident" story .

    apparently CNN have much more inside information of what happens in china ,because they
    were the first one in the world ,that predicted a major epidemy ,happening in wuhan ,even earlier
    than china could do it , and discover the problem it was facing. just for record , to identify and sequence a virus takes weeks ,but CNN was already solved the mystery ,when china had just confirmation of the first few victims of the virus , and with "witness" in place of a major
    event developing in china.  apparently no longer traveling is need , just ask CNN and they know better than anyone , what kind of virus is happening in any part of the world.  Rolling Eyes

    but this is what nobody in the west will want to mention...
    any video that explain the fort detrick controversy , means automatic ban in youtube ,for anyone who upload a video about this.  Laughing

    Fort DETRICK bioweapons labs confirmed accident in summer 2019 ,that forced its closure ,for a virus like respiratory illness running wild in the surroundings of the base  with hundreds of hospitalizations and deaths.

    there are plenty of reports about this accident in american media in summer 2019 , just couple of months earlier before china began to notice the virus in wuhan.

    The real birthplace of covid19  .  pirat  

    By Carissa DiMargo and Julie Carey • Published July 17, 2019 •

    Cause of Respiratory Illness Still Unknown After Dozens Sickened at Virginia Retirement Community


    Fairfax County health officials said they don't yet have a cause of the respiratory illness that sicked more than 60 residents at a Northern Virginia senior living community.

    The outbreak at Greenspring Retirement Community in Springfield began June 30. Sick residents had symptoms such as coughs, fevers and pneumonia.

    Three people have also died, but Dr. Benjamin Schwartz of the Fairfax County Health Department said Wednesday afternoon that those who died were "older" and had complex health problems. Officials don't yet know the extent to which the respiratory illness contributed to their deaths, he said.



    https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/health-officials-to-give-update-after-respiratory-illness-sickens-dozens-at-virginia-retirement-community/135890/


    and i posted this information in january early 2020 , when the alarm was told about a major epidemy
    happenning in china .  i smelled a foul play by US on china ,since trump was at war with china and had a million of reasons to unleash a major virus in wuhan to stop their economy ,and found a group of investigators , retired from US army ,  connecting the dots between forth detrick us military delegation who travelled to wuhan olympics and the wuhan virus that surfaced just a few weeks later.

    So 1 and a half year already , telling this shit , so people don't be mislead by counter disinformation propaganda , that totally omit the highly inconvenient confirmed fact of the Fort detrick accident in maryland , described by US media as a "mysterious illness" that especifically target people lungs and cause respiratory issues that was making ill thousands in the city and killing people.

    The group of american investigators ,former army veterans , connecting the dots , between
    Forth detrick --> US army delegation in wuhan and --> covid19 , have been completely banned
    their channels , and their videos deleted whenever uploaded again , they had to move to alternative youtube like media to post their investigations , that so far see a high possibility ,that the american delegation that participated in wuhan olympics , came many from Fort detrick ,the same facility that had to be closed for a wild rampand virus killing people ,near the base.
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    Post  Vann7 Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:49 am

    again more ..


    Why none of the western press ever cover this ? when discussing covid19 origins?
    too inconvenient to discuss... Wink  lol1

    Friday, July 12th 2019
    Mystery virus: What's killing, hospitalizing residents at Greenspring retirement center?

    https://wjla.com/news/local/mystery-virus-greenspring-retirement-cdc-va

    So the US media is full of reports like that, not conspiracies , but facts.. a mysterious respiratory killer virus ,was running like wildfire in maryland back in summer 2019.. wuhan olympics with american military delegation began in oct 2019 and the news of people falling ill for a respiratory symptons began in november 2019.


    Why no mainsteam media in the west ever investigate this ?   why is the fear  to even mention fort detrick bioweapons labs accident and thousands of sick people near the base by a respiratory illness.


    Isn't is logical ,that any american media will want to interview the residents of greenspring ,near fort detrick ,to clarify all the doubts whether is true or not ,they had a virus that behaved just like covid19 , way before china ?  

    how about interviewing he scientist of that military base ? to clarify why there was an accident there and if they identified the mysterious virus killing people ? why this even is so hidden ,  so lightly disclosed in US media ?  wouldn't a mysterious illness that kill hundreds in maryland deserve a
    major deep investigation ? with doctors asked ,whether or not this was a covid19 like virus what they faced in summer 2019 ? or if it was the same?   the total silence in US media , about a follow up of this important life and death event , about this this epidemy that surfaced around fort detrick deserve much more than a single page report and move on.

    No

    even twiiter report this epidemy..




    Tim Barber
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    Jul 12, 2019
    Replying to
    @Jay7News
    and
    @ABC7News
    JUST IN: #FairfaxCounty Health Dept. says 2 more people hospitalized following respiratory outbreak at #GreenspringRetirementCommunity in #Springfield— total is 20 hospitalizations now.

    -Total of 54 sick & 2 deaths.

    Now sending samples of mystery virus to
    @CDCgov
    .

    https://twitter.com/TimBarberUSCP/status/1149726914128560128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1149726914128560128%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwjla.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Fmystery-virus-greenspring-retirement-cdc-va

    i have a major theory..

    Mystery Virus = Sarscov2 (covid19).  

    And the route of the virus..

    Forth Detrick accident --> US soldiers contaminated --> travel to spain ,france and germany respective bases  then -->wuhan lab military olympics --> and the rest is a world wide pandemic.


    Why no media in the west even remotely discuss this possibility , not even to debunk it in public ,
    and the topic not even touched by western media today with a 10 feet pole  is a real mystery to me.
    or maybe not.  lol1

    This have all the signature of a military undercover operation , a new world trade center terror attacks , but now instead of planes and bombs ,with a virus.  In world trade center 911 ,the distraction was the remote controlled planes , to cover the bombs rigged inside of each building destroyed.  in today pandemic ,that distraction is wuhan lab  and if the west caught to be the cause of the virus , they already have in place their "Explanation" that it was virus in maryland that "Escaped" from the lab and they failed to contain. Smile   But this are the distractions for backup in case
    the operation fails. outside of china olympics and US sabotage ,the real pandemic is likely spread by high altitude drones by NATO military planes around the world ,via spray , using wind currents , that can allow them to spread anything in any nation without invading its airspace . But is not hard for any embassy of NATO to spread a virus anywhere in any place , if they so desire it ,you can hide in a bottle of glass a virus in any business suitcase. or simply through tourism too .

    China told for example ,they got a second wave of covid19 , from Australia and ukraine imported meat . So is very easy to spread any virus ,anywhere in case of a major biowar. only way to stop this is blocking tourism and trade with countries you don't trust and monitoring those drones or planes flying close to your base. Civilian airliners can also be used to spread viruses. So is a good idea to block airliners of hostile countries from flying over your cities.





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    Post  kvs Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:34 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/526313-covid-mutated-virus-treatment/

    Covid-19 has mutated significantly, and the virus is now much harder to treat than it used to be. That’s according to the head of Moscow’s Kommunarka Hospital, which last year became the city’s main coronavirus treatment facility.

    “This makes us think that the virus has also changed and has mutated in this year and a half,” he said, before encouraging people to get vaccinated against the disease.

    According to Protsenko, the Kommunarka hospital is now filled with a large number of elderly patients, as well as people who are overweight or diabetic. Furthermore, collective immunity in the capital is still under 50%, he said.

    According to the official numbers, Russia recorded 12,505 new cases nationwide on Friday – the highest figure since February 22. The capital is bearing the brunt of the latest wave, with 5,853 new infections detected in just 24 hours – 47% of all cases recorded. Moscow is home to just 10% of the country’s population.

    However, perhaps most worryingly, Moscow’s coronavirus spread, measured by the so-called R rate, soared to 1.6 in the past 24 hours – the highest seen since September 30 last year.

    The only issue that matters is mortality. Sounds like this journalist is pushing the BS narrative that infections are all that matter since no mention is
    made of the number of deaths per day. The use of the phrase

    hospital is now filled

    is deliberately misleading and a form of lying. "Filled" here means it has cases and does not mean "overflowing". The virus is mutating but the impact on
    people under 50 years of age is clearly not changing. There is basically no impact unless the new story is that the flu was a "killer".

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    Post  franco Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:31 pm

    Russia should have wider vaccination against COVID-19 - Putin

    MOSCOW, June 12. /TASS/. The number of people vaccinated against coronavirus in Russia has reached 18 mln people, while no cases of serious complications have been recorded. This suggests that vaccination in the country should be wider, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Saturday.

    "It seems to me that this is quite convincing proof that vaccination should be wider," Putin said.

    The volume of manufactured coronavirus vaccines in Russia makes it possible to vaccinate everyone who wants it, Putin said.

    "Now in Russia, in terms of the produced vaccine volume, we can vaccinate everyone who wants to," he said.

    However, the president continued, the issue is that people "are wary of all such procedures." "This is a common occurrence," Putin said.

    Currently, there are four vaccines registered in Russia: Sputnik V and Sputnik Light from the Gamaleya National Research Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology, EpiVacCorona by the Vector State Scientific Center of Virology and Biotechnology, and CoviVac vaccine by the Chumakov Federal Scientific Center. Vaccines Sputnik V, EpiVacCorona, and CoviVac are two-component, Sputnik Light is a one-component vaccine.

    https://tass.com/society/1302153

    NOTE: the Russian government is going to have to find a way to get Russians to vaccinate. Only 12% of the population getting vaccinated to date while production is such that 10% could be vaccinated each month for a joke. Meanwhile the daily rate of new cases has been raising over the past 3 weeks, going from less then 8,000 to 13,500 per day.
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    Post  lancelot Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:33 pm

    They need to make it mandatory for public servants.
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    Post  Vann7 Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:19 am

    lancelot wrote:They need to make it mandatory for public servants.

    that imbecile president , is to blame for the low trust on the sputnik v vaccine , he himself refused
    to vaccinate first , and waited a year to get the vaccine he was promoting.  No  The western liberal media was having a party , trashing the russian sputnik vaccine thanks to putin . claiming , not even putin take his own vaccine , and making fun of this  No    so many russians are worried about vaccinating , specially those that oppose their president .  When you have a bad leader ,that is incompetent and stupid , and don't have a clue of what he is doing , he can bring backwards a entire nation on its development.

    in more positive news...  Smile
    a new interesting video , of a famous doctor in US that declared in US congress recently . not a fake doctor GarryB . listen what he says about his "safe" mRNA vaccines.  lol1


    DR.  Dr. Peter McCullough MD  .
    Doctor of internal medicine and board -Certified Cardiologist.




    I think this whole pandemic from the beginning was about the vaccine ,
    so i think all roads lead to the vaccine ...
    If the vaccine was like water , no side effects ,then who wouldnt take it?
    , but they know they can die from the vaccine .

    Over 4 thousands american died  , over 10,000 in europe. !!!!!  after one two three days
    of taking the vaccine .

    why are we pushing people over this ,their jobs ,their education ,their entire lives on a decision
    (pressure to vaccinate)  that's potentially fatal for them , The internet is full of this cases ,
    blood clots , strokes , immediate death ,....

    Base of the safety data now , i can no longer recommend (people taking the vaccine).  



    Didn't this vaccines were so safe ?  Rolling Eyes

    A very important doctor changing his opinion ,after seeing all the picture of what's going on in the world with western vaccines , now he recommending people to NOT to vaccinate. after all the facts out there of how dangerous the vaccines can be.   Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Cool



    .

    how 15,000 people died to the western super safe vaccines?
    interesting the doctor is smart , he also detected the bullshit , how vaccinating with an untested,
    unproven ,and totally experimental new genetic engineering shot ,became the panacea of life ,
    no longer people can live without it , thats how the western media and politicians behaved.  No

    but it wasn't difficult to figure out the pandemic agenda , when you saw the western social
    media censoring any doctor that disagree with the official narrative in the west of lock downs
    covid19 , and mandatory vaccinations.

    this are the first heroes of the pandemic ,the ones that exposed a major fraud
    happening with US covid numbers and manipulation of statistics going on .



    the above doctors are attacked by all the clowns , that works for the pharma industry and western mainstream media.


    wondering how long the above video will last in youtube.... a day or two more  ?
    before the "fact checking media "/mafia police censor the video.  lol1
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    Post  GarryB Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:20 pm

    that imbecile president , is to blame for the low trust on the sputnik v vaccine , he himself refused

    Hang on Vann, you can't have it both ways... the virus is a western conspiracy and the west is responsible, but if Russians are not getting vaccinated because of shit like the crap you post here why are you surprised and why are you blaming Putin?

    He got vaccinated and 18% of the Russian population are now vaccinated with Russian vaccines we were told were rushed and dangerous, but the results are back and they were made very quickly but are also clearly very safe and rather effective in terms of preventing deaths to the virus at hand.

    6 months ago you could say the vaccine is an unknown especially with reports about serious side effects from some vaccines, but they have plenty of examples of use from around the world with the Russian vaccines and they both work and are safe... not just safer than the virus, but safer than the other alternative vaccines, which logically means it makes sense to get vaccinated with these vaccines if you get a choice.

    The Russian people get a choice... they can look at the results of getting vaccinated and the results of not getting vaccinated... the results of not getting vaccinated and catching Covid is death for about three percent of those that catch it... the results for those vaccinated is not death for anyone.

    But censored anti vaxxers who repeat the shit videos and Dr.s little internet rants about this or that like you are doing on here creates doubt and fear and even panic and results in people deciding vaccines are a weapon to be used against them, to control them... but if that was the case they could just make doctors vaccinate everyone... no choice... no vaccination then no travel, no leaving your house, no shopping etc etc.
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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:23 pm

    @Garry: at the individual level the person have to take full responsibility of his action, a murderer have to be punished lawfully no matter what the reason is.

    But at the social level, if anti-vax movement is at a significant level then there is issues happened in the country and simply blaming the individuals will not solve anything.

    I wonder what is the reason for the anti-vax movement in general, and the neglect of a number of citizen in disease prevention in general. What element influences them and cause them to think that way ?

    In America I can see that is one of the results of the distrust between the people and the US government and the Big Pharma as their "experiment" on human have created a long-lasting impact. What about in other countries anyway ?
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    Post  Vann7 Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:20 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    that imbecile president , is to blame for the low trust on the sputnik v vaccine , he himself refused

    Hang on Vann, you can't have it both ways... the virus is a western conspiracy and the west is responsible, but if Russians are not getting vaccinated because of shit like the crap you post here why are you surprised and why are you blaming Putin?

    He got vaccinated and 18% of the Russian population are now vaccinated with Russian vaccines we were told were rushed and dangerous, but the results are back and they were made very quickly but are also clearly very safe and rather effective in terms of preventing deaths to the virus at hand.

    6 months ago you could say the vaccine is an unknown especially with reports about serious side effects from some vaccines, but they have plenty of examples of use from around the world with the Russian vaccines and they both work and are safe... not just safer than the virus, but safer than the other alternative vaccines, which logically means it makes sense to get vaccinated with these vaccines if you get a choice.

    The Russian people get a choice... they can look at the results of getting vaccinated and the results of not getting vaccinated... the results of not getting vaccinated and catching Covid is death for about three percent of those that catch it... the results for those vaccinated is not death for anyone.

    But  censored  anti vaxxers who repeat the shit videos and Dr.s little internet rants about this or that like you are doing on here creates doubt and fear and even panic and results in people deciding vaccines are a weapon to be used against them, to control them... but if that was the case they could just make doctors vaccinate everyone... no choice... no vaccination then no travel, no leaving your house, no shopping etc etc.

    so right any Doctor or microbiologist that i post a video , you dismiss them as if it just rumors and bla bla bla.  Even the Gamaleya chief microbiologist scientist told it ,your "Safe vaccines"
    kills people.. this was told by Russia top scientist.

    So yes i can have it both ways , im an anti poisonous vaccines ,not against true vaccines . Against vaccines made to control population  ,not vaccines made to save lives .so there is no contradiction  ,only in people with very low capabilities for logic and reason that have never gone to school there is.


    And putin vaccinated 1 year later , after many millions did it first a year later..
    and this stupidity of putin , is what made the day of all liberal media in the west , laughing
    how even Putin don't vaccinate with his own vaccine..  and you can't argue with them ,
    showing cowardice for vaccines he is supposed to closely supervise and monitor is bad , and there is no way to twist it in a positive way.

    it is the vaccine ? or the imbecile president?  
    the very slow acceptance , of Russia sputnik vaccine is partly to blame for putin , cowardice
    and lack of leadership ,for showing their nation and the world that his vaccine is safe as it is.

    putin simply don't understand what is the most important duty of a leader .
    'leaders are supposed to lead. they are supposed to show the way  to others , to inspire population
    trust, and if russians don't trust in their own country vaccine , consequences of putin's cowardice to do it first , then is a problem of leadership , the reason why most russians don't want to vaccinate.
    nobody in the russian government inspire the majority of population to vaccinate. This is a leadership problem ,when nobody or majority of a nation don't listen the president of a country ,you have a bad leader. is as simple as that. last reports shows only 1/3 of russia population wants to vaccinate.  


    So Who needs the western liberal media , to discredit russia ,when you have an imbecile for president? that discredit himself his own government , by showing being a coward and being afraid of his own nation vaccines?   No

    in venezuela , maduro vaccinated first.. in argentina the president there was among the first ones to vaccinate ,but the insecure president of Russia waited a year , to vaccinate , what a great example
    for his population he is.  in mexico the president was among the first ones to vaccinate too , but oh wait , putin the weak and insecure had to wait a year , to be sure he can trust in his own nation doctors vaccines.  Laughing  

    again how can putin demand his health department to convince population to vaccinate if he himself don't did it for a full year the vaccination started ? confused

    the world is full of cowards and incompetent people and putin is one of them , mark my words , he will leave russia as one of the most disastrous presidents in russia history and likely will surpass
    gorvachev in treason level and disastrous performance in the nation .


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    Post  flamming_python Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:37 pm

    Putin didn't vaccinate until way later
    Death figures have been under-reported, they're x2.5 the official numbers, or at least were back last year
    A limited lockdown which ended last summer and since then there has been nothing to remind Russians of the danger
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:40 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Putin didn't vaccinate until way later
    Death figures have been under-reported, they're x2.5 the official numbers, or at least were back last year
    A limited lockdown which ended last summer and since then there has been nothing to remind Russians of the danger

    Good Lord Darwin will protect the worthy

    If inferior trash wants to voluntarily remove itself from the gene pool they will receive gratitude for making the nation stronger

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    Post  Vann7 Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:00 am

    flamming_python wrote:Putin didn't vaccinate until way later
    Death figures have been under-reported, they're x2.5 the official numbers, or at least were back last year
    A limited lockdown which ended last summer and since then there has been nothing to remind Russians of the danger

    exactly..


    watching the adventures of putin in the presidency , is like watching a competition , of who is the more
    dumb contest.  and putin is surpassing himself more and more  ,  in how mediocre he is .
    this is the same president ,that himself told ,to never use the internet.  Shocked
    so  how he is expect to know about the way his society think ? the young generations feels?
    how he can know , how he is doing ? is he so detached from reality ,that not even consider important
    the daily life public opinion?   No

    it is as if putin came from a cave and they made him president . Because he don't lead ,
    he don't inspire population to do anything important , other than stupid medals in sports,
    and on top of that , he is totally disconnected from the way society think and feels.  Mad
    no doubt , putin is one of the most disconnected Presidents with society , that im aware of ,
    and his major problem is that he is indeed very stupid when it comes to humans relations .
    he might be smart in some areas ,like diplomacy , in manipulating people with weakness , that
    can be useful in politics , but this are not sustainable policies , of being soft and weak all the time forever. at some point he have to fight back ,and stop the mr nice aptitude with those seeking to
    disband Russia. The most epic retard moments of putin , was when obama kicked hundreds of russian diplomats , and lavrov recommended him reciprocity , but Putin instead of listening his experienced very good diplomats , he show the best of his stupidity and instead of responding ,
    he invited american embassy to a christmast party . Rolling Eyes Later US media and US politician was making fun of Putin how teddy bear he is. No No No No

    this is really bad , that idiot weakness ,is what invite disrespect ,and encourage the west ,to do more , to attack Russia more , to do unthinkable things ,because they know very well ,that Putin is a teddy bear , weak and soft , that he is that way ,because of insecurity and he will prefer to do nothing ,than to confront the west ,even if the west kill russian soldiers. No This is why putin is BIG THEAT and very dangerous for Russia , he will provoke a nuclear war , with his weakness , the west see weakness and will take advantage of it ,and if they see they will get away with some aggression they will do it , and this is why obama was considering developing very small nuclear weapons. to use them on russia borders ,perhaps in ukraine and in syria against their allies , and even in russia territory , knowing that if they do it carefully in a very tactical way with very few casualties in russian side , putin will not respond . look how ukraine bombed Russia territory across border killing civilians and he did not responded. Neutral this was discussed by other political commentators in some websites ,
    that putin weakness , and indecisive aptitude versus the west hostilities , do encourage more provocations and more and more ,because they are testing russia ,to see how far they can go ,without any consequence , and the fact that putin don't draw lines , is what teach the west ,they can continue pushing and attacking russia. eventually the those NATO generals will become too over confident and do really unbelievable agression ,like shutting down the putin presidential plane just for fun , for humiliating Russia military and they might miscalculate the response of the military could be totally different ,to putin's soft one and they could start a major war ,with a no return path.

    Weakness ,insecurity and indecisiveness inspire bullies to hit harder their victims , they see fear this trigger their animal side of them to punch harder next time. This is why so many womens are killed by their husbands ,they don't confront their abusers ,don't draw a line and they show total submission and this encourage abusive and sick people to hit them harder and even kill them .
    Putin soft teddy bear aptitude versus the west cause lives in russia military . he need to grow some balls like iranian president. that shown is not afraid of war , if they attacked.


    The only way to fix Russia is with a major revolution , demanding the dictator putin to leave,
    as they have been doing with the other dictator there , in israel.  Smile  
    out putin and netanyahu , all dictators are bad , no matter where. they want to hold power
    forever , and sink their country with their mediocre ideas. 20 years is already too much time for
    any leader to remain in power , in modern times.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:03 pm

    The only western politicians that got vaccinations early were Trump and Johnson... because they were fucking stupid enough to visit patients in hospital and get infected.

    Putin didn't get vaccinated earlier because he is at low risk of actually dying from the virus, but then I am sure if he got the Vaccine straight away you would say he is stealing life from someone else who more urgently needed it.

    He is vaccinated and he was vaccinated with a Russian Vaccine... he said he doesn't know or care which one... normally when you get vaccinated you don't get any choice anyway.

    I have had the flu vaccine for the last decade or so and was never told what brand it was.


    watching the adventures of putin in the presidency , is like watching a competition , of who is the more
    dumb contest. and putin is surpassing himself more and more , in how mediocre he is .

    Yeah, so you say, and yet he remains in power... go figure...

    Death figures have been under-reported, they're x2.5 the official numbers, or at least were back last year
    A limited lockdown which ended last summer and since then there has been nothing to remind Russians of the danger

    But death figures are over reported everywhere else...

    The problem is that even if they were ten times higher most of the nitwits refusing Vaccination would still refuse, so of course the death rate will go higher... otherwise there is no point in bothering to create a vaccine or three.

    Of course for a third world gas station that does not make anything they have about three for humans and even one for animals... and the one in France is almost ready maybe...

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    Post  kvs Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:35 pm



    Check out the maggots helping to maintain the perpetual lockdowns.  

    As I posted already, the one and only criterion is the mortality rate.   It is quickly converging on that of the flu.   When Texas went off
    the mask and lockdown hysteria its case load and mortality dropped.

    The idea that we need lockdowns to stop the spread of Covid is ludicrous and criminal. Covid is not going to be like smallpox. It is
    going to be like the flu and all the evidence confirms this. It mutates fast enough to be like the flu so no vaccine is going to eradicate
    it. Covid will spread through the population one way or another. It will not be stopped from doing this.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:25 am

    Lockdowns only work to contain a small outbreak.... if you have the virus coming in on aircraft and ships from all directions then a lockdown is not going to be as much of a help as vaccination.

    Vaccinate the people most at risk of dying due to getting the virus and then gradually vaccinate everyone else.

    A free icecream for a vaccination... or a free "Putin loves you" Tee Shirt maybe. I hope they have my size... 4XL extra long...

    There are lots of anti vaxxers because governments around the world are proven liars and cannot be trusted.

    Some lies are necessary at the time, but of all the politicians I think I would trust Putin more than any other including our local horse face.
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    Post  Sujoy Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:21 am

    A Chinese woman named Shi Zhengli aka 'Batwoman' was able to travel to the North Eastern Indian state of Nagaland under the radar in 2017 to collect blood samples from a tribe that harvests bats. https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1404391503116464131?s=20

    The study was funded by the United States Department of Defense, Defense Threat Reduction Agency and the results were published in the PLOS Neglected Tropical Diseases journal, established by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:21 pm

    From what I hear the Russian antivaxers are strongest in Moskva and other key cities, meanwhile Russian people (and foreign people in Russia) elsewhere desire vaccination. However the distribution of vaccines to remote area (where high ratio of people support vaccination) is low while the antivaxer strongholds ironically have better supply.

    Some of my fellows tell that many Vietnamese students in Russia express their will to be vaccinated, but the students have to wait for a while or have to travel to Moskva for vaccination.
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    Post  kvs Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:50 pm

    This smells like bureaucratic sabotage. There is no particular reason why the Russian vaccine would be concentrated in the largest urban
    areas. Somebody is clearly making an executive decision to prioritize these urban centers.

    People who think that systems run themselves are detached from reality. A whip always has to be cracked over the corrupt and
    lazy herd of cats. In the west, the whip cracking is done by the oligarchy and various government workers know the consequences
    of non-conformity. In Russia, Putin has to do the job almost by himself. He should take a cue from Stalin and purge at the first
    hint of treason.

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    Post  franco Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:56 pm

    kvs wrote:This smells like bureaucratic sabotage.   There is no particular reason why the Russian vaccine would be concentrated in the largest urban
    areas.  Somebody is clearly making an executive decision to prioritize these urban centers.  

    People who think that systems run themselves are detached from reality.   A whip always has to be cracked over the corrupt and
    lazy herd of cats.    In the west, the whip cracking is done by the oligarchy and various government workers know the consequences
    of non-conformity.    In Russia, Putin has to do the job almost by himself.    He should take a cue from Stalin and purge at the first
    hint of treason.


    Sounds like a distribution job for the military... apparently they are over 90% vaccinated.

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    So how is Covid-19 still a crisis requiring lockdowns in the UK? It is now like the flu.


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