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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:03 pm

    On Bloomberg news today

    If Covid Did Escape From a Wuhan Lab, Brace Yourself
    The world’s anger will be terrible to behold.


    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-06-04/if-covid-did-escape-from-a-wuhan-lab-brace-yourself
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:12 pm

    This is scary. It is starting to look suspiciously like a joint US/CCP militaries' development.

    With release optimised for maximum damage on Trump 2020. Followed by a very effective campaign in the US.

    If I'm correct they did an amazingly successful operation. But OPSEC seems to be falling apart. Who is going to get to the exit first and live to tell the tale?


    More detail at https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fauci-funded-wuhan-military-scientist-filed-covid-vaccine-patent-days-after-pandemic

    But the meat is here, https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242602 copy posted here just in case. Very sensibly, probably for their own protection, they are ignoring the US civil and military funding already detailed.

    So what do we now know?

    China's military was in fact involved at the Wuhan lab. It was not just a civilian operation. This, by the way, has been repeatedly denied over the last year and change.

    The lab's scientists knew not only the sequencing of the virus but in addition had a patentable way to create an alleged vaccine before the pandemic was public. It takes time to draft patents and figure them out. Quite a lot of time, in fact -- not a couple weeks or months.

    The PLA, China's military, did file said patent with Zhou's name on it.

    It takes time to prove up patent material, including in the case of a vaccine. To patent something you must be able to demonstrate it; you cannot patent ideas, only embodiments of ideas. In that case you would have to prove immunogenicity which isn't instantaneous; it takes weeks or even months to get through original science on this with animals and then humans, which means the date of knowledge was not February 24th it was months or even further before that.

    That means they were working on this even before that time because to work on a vaccine you have to know you must or would want to work on it in the first place. This in turn means they knew damn well there was a virulent virus in the wild prior to that date, or they released it or intended to release it into the wild on purpose. Nobody comes up with a vaccine for a virus you intend to and have confined entirely within a laboratory in animal or cell culture testing; that's worthless. Without an isolate to create a vaccine for and a virus outside of a lab environment where vaccination becomes a "thing" that might be required and thus have value why would you do the work to create one?

    What's the timeline on all this? Many, many months or even a couple of years.

    That means either the virus was "out" for many months to a couple of years before February of 2020 (not a month or two) or the Chinese intended to release it in the fall of 2019. In either case the evidence is now overwhelming that this was not a virus that "magically appeared" one fine day in late December having come naturally from bats and perhaps pangolins. That is not just improbable anymore -- it is now, on the manifest weight of the evidence, impossible.

    Further, the person who filed the patent died under "mysterious circumstances." Gee, I wonder why?

    Let me guess -- did he shoot himself in the back of the head twice?

    Next up is exactly what sort of vaccine patent we're talking about here?

    Specifically how is it that the "stiffened" areas in the viral vector and mRNA shots we're using in the US came to be known and proved up? How did Moderna and Pfizer know they needed to do that? That sort of study takes months if not years too, not days or weeks, to both come up with it and then prove it actually works as expected.

    Remember that Covid-19 has a rather-unique site on the spike called the "furin-cleavage" area which it uses to "fold" and get into the cell; the S1 unit attaches, the cleavage area "folds" and then the second part penetrates the cell wall like a spear. SARS and MERS both lack this structure so there was no "prior art" to use and in the first couple of months the characterizing of all of this was pretty darn new.

    Yet the "official story" is that these folks had a proposed candidate configuration, including the replacement of encodings to "stiffen" that area within days of the publication of the viral RNA sequence for Covid-19.

    Is the completed work in that area what the Chinese "gave" us complete with that part of the work already done? That would explain how it happened that quickly, wouldn't it? I'd sure like to understand how someone -- anyone -- does that sort of work complete with the lab verification in cell cultures and animals, reachig those conclusions in days.

    What are the connections there? I'd like a full explanation of that please.

    Oh wait -- the manufacturers didn't bother with all of making sure it worked as expected, did they? Nope! It sort of works as expected. Yes, the shots produce antibodies -- lots of them. But they also cluster in multiple organs where we were told it would not; we were told it would remain in the deltoid muscle where the injection was delivered. That it remained in the muscle was false; the science was not done and it appears we were just told it would do so without evidence. Now, due to a leaked document out of Japan we know the shots do not stay where intended and they bioaccumulate in other places, including the ovaries and spleen and yet this, which was a direct contravention of the predicate upon which the EUAs issued did not lead to immediate revocation. Oh no, the FDA doesn't care when claims about where it is contained to in the body turn out to be false!

    We further know the spike protein itself is pathogenic via multiple studies despite the CDC claiming otherwise and that said spike also shows up all over the body after vaccination. We were also told that didn't happen; quite clearly that science was not done either as the first hint of trouble was in September of 2020 and then from December forward -- the claim was thus either a lie by omission (heh, "Warp Speed!") and lack of work or it was an intentional and malicious, knowing lie. Again the FDA relied on that representation, we now know it was false and yet the EUAs, once again, were not withdrawn.

    Which is it folks -- haste or fraud? And from a standpoint of yanking the EUAs -- does it matter? False is false; why only goes to the issue of punishment for the falsehood, not the required corrective action when discovered. I'm entirely willing to believe haste as opposed to deliberate deception but it doesn't matter in terms of leaving the damned things out there without going back and forcing proof that the contradictions do not turn into harms!

    WHERE IS THE CORRECTIVE ACTION?

    And further, we now have clinical evidence that the significant adverse event rate (SAR) is wildly higher than being stated, and may be as high as a few percent, or few per hundred, not the few per hundred thousand being claimed. Exactly what is the REAL serious adverse event rate? We do not know because VAERS is a voluntary system and there is no systematic surveillance on people who get jabbed. Without either mandatory reporting or systematic surveillance there is no way to get an accurate number; all you generate is a hypothesis, and boy, has VAERS done that with over 4,000 reports of associated death against 20-odd for the flu vaccine over the last 12 months.

    Fauci either knew or should have known that the CCP and his "trusted colleagues" were lying.

    Then again lying is all he's done since this started, as his emails have now proved. Hell, he even said directly what I've pointed out for months -- viruses are simply too small to be caught by common masks; they go right through.

    Do you believe anything else the CDC, NIH or your state health departments tell you?

    Every one of the persons, individually, promulgating these lies must be held to both civil and criminal account.

    Even if you have health insurance if you get one of those significant adverse events you are on the hook for your deductible and out-of-pocket maximum, and if the problem continues across more than a year you get to pay it again and again, perhaps forevermore.

    This assumes, of course, that the damage isn't permanent -- and it might be.

    Once someone lies to your face about something important you're nuts to believe anything else they tell you.

    Oh by the way, did Fauxi (sic) know any or all of this? If he did, is that treason? You know, actual treason?

    PS: IMHO, a good start -- Revoke China's MFN status and freeze all of the CUSIPs for US Treasuries and all US firms and other US entities owned by any Chinese national, firm or the government. Revoke all student and non-resident visas. Impose full currency, wage and environmental parity tariffs on all products and services coming from China, directly or indirectly. Contemplate derivative sanctions on nations that refuse to follow suit. Do it now and mean it. Whether this was intentional in release is no longer the gating factor; that it was intentionally concealed and the Chinese military was involved is now conclusively demonstrated by that patent filing. That's enough, standing alone. War can be declared in multiple ways; shooting is not always involved and China has done so.

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    Post  kvs Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:09 am

    China appears to have hard core internal divisions. I think this explains why the US is not too worried about the Chinese military.
    But it is worried about China's economic impact. The CCP needs to purge the western aligned elements, especially in the military.
    They will be used to destroy China.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:48 am

    If Wuhan is a US funded bio facility... presumably like the ones they have all over the world... why would they allow Chinese military access?

    Such a facility might be a good place to source Chinese DNA and the DNA of other local populations, but they could easily ship that off to other labs they have around the world for the actual weapon work to keep the Chinese military in the dark.

    Sorry, I am not buying it.

    If anything it looks like the US with its bio labs operating all round the world indicate if anyone was cooking up some weapons it would be them... look at their pathetic handling of the whole situation so far to realise the work is not focused on what to do during an international pandemic... they were a joke.

    So if they are not working to protect the world.... it is the US military... odds are they were working to destroy it... and they screwed that up too it was pathetic.
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    Post  Kiko Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:41 pm

    @eminency Aristide:

    Republic of Congo approves Russian monodosis vaccine Sputnik Light

    Et la France, où en-est elle? (And France, where does it stand?)

    https://mundo.sputniknews.com/20210607/la-republica-del-congo-aprueba-la-vacuna-monodosis-rusa-sputnik-light-1112982576.html

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    Post  Kiko Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:15 pm

    In addition to Brazilian Northeastern states, now the Federal District plus another six states have requested from Health Regulatory Agency the authorization for the emergency import of Sputnik V.

    https://br.sputniknews.com/brasil/2021060717631567-df-e-mais-6-estados-pedem-autorizacao-da-anvisa-para-uso-emergencial-da-sputnik-v/

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    Post  GarryB Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:39 am

    I would say the cheapest and simplest solution would be for Sputnik V for high risk members of your population (ie over 50 and diabetic or those with sleeping apnea issues) and Sputnik light (ie one jab instead of two) for everyone else.

    The risk of side effects would be greatly reduced with the single jab option and even the two jab option does not seem to have the problems other vaccines seem to have experienced.

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    Post  kvs Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:32 am

    GarryB wrote:I would say the cheapest and simplest solution would be for Sputnik V for high risk members of your population (ie over 50 and diabetic or those with sleeping apnea issues) and Sputnik light (ie one jab instead of two) for everyone else.

    The risk of side effects would be greatly reduced with the single jab option and even the two jab option does not seem to have the problems other vaccines seem to have experienced.

    For sure no vaccine should be pushed on children.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-73777-8

    The deaths are essentially confined to people over 50 years of age.

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    Post  Vann7 Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:28 am

    GarryB wrote: If Wuhan is a US funded bio facility... presumably like the ones they have all over the world... why would they allow Chinese military access?

    Such a facility might be a good place to source Chinese DNA and the DNA of other local populations, but they could easily ship that off to other labs they have around the world for the actual weapon work to keep the Chinese military in the dark.

    Sorry, I am not buying it.


    Wow!  

    Someone hacked Garryb account , is the first time ,i read  logic and common sense  , can't be him. Laughing


    So let me clarify ... so people understand the facts..

    The US government will have NEVER in a million years funded a bio lab in china
    and started a research cooperation with what they consider always enemies , investing hundred of millions of dollars ,unless they knew very well ,something very big , very important benefits for the west will come , it had to be very big , as big as the hundreds of mllions they invested in the lab. they could win something big , very big in change for their money.


    So in my opinion ,based on all the facts that exist ,that the the whole wuhan cooperation with nato thing raise alarms , like a false flag setup , they were planning . just move a dangerous virus to wuhan ,using the "cooperation" excuse ,for development of vaccines. bribe chinese scientist to help the anglo west provoke an accident and later when a pandemic start , then blame china for it. Smile   very classical way of operating the west.

    more interesting FACTS , that can be verified easily with a google search in seconds.

    The western media ,and its politicians , are trying to blame just 1 person , antony faucci for
    funding wuhan lab.. trying to make it look ,that neither democrats or republicans knew about this
    5 years ago.  

    facts...
    -The funding of wuhan lab began in obama administration , and the money was assigned by him ,with full knowledge of the entire federal gov , intel agencies ,congress and senate.

    - there was many american universitities participating in the research of virus and vaccines there.
    - France , britain ,norway ,australia ,canada, they all were also part of the research operation.
    -The wuhan lab was not a dark laboratory , that nobody knew what was happening there , but it was actually and open research lab ,with US ,UK ,Canada , FRANCE , Norway , Australia , scientist working together with chinese scientist for the development of vaccines there.
    So this was a wide and big operation , with full participation of the anglo west and european scientific community.  and this is a good thing..  the more open an transparent was the operations in that lab ,the more difficult it is to frame it ,for any wrong doing.

    now the most interesting fact..
    from the hundred of NATO scientist who worked in the wuhan lab , not a single one , have spoken
    openly ,accusing china of any wrong doing , in that lab , of any accident.

    So what likely happened here?

    it looks , the west tried to setup the wuhan lab with an accident ,using hundreds of millions of dollars  in bribes and experiments, or at least bribing chinese scientist and western scientist , to accuse chinese government of doing something criminal there ,or of hiding an accident.  but failed with the false flag operation ,because all other nations participating in the lab ,refused to follow the false flag narrative. So now americans in light , they can't convince europe and all other nato allies ,to follow the false flag narrative , they are using their media , and public opinion in hope ,to create a world wide boycott on chinese products..

    so this is another trick , of the american big bag of tricks , of how to destroy china..
    with a pandemic false flag , with a real virus ,but with totally false narrative in western media how it all really began..

    and the most interesting fact of all ,is that western media does never mention this facts.. when
    accusing china of hidding an accident.
    - the west never mentions , that there was a virus epidemy in maryland in 2020 , around fort detrick bioweapons labs, that forced closure of the base and american media blamed the respirature decease deaths on "electronic cigars".

    -the western media , never mentions , how several european governments have already said ,detected traces of the virus that began many months earlier than in wuhan in china , first people.
    so officially speaking ,officially confirmed , is the first victims of covid19 were not chinese , but europeans.

    -Those anglo nations accusing china of wrong doing , are the only nations in the world artificially inflating their virus numbers , to make the virus more dangerous ,than really it is , to force vaccinations on population.

    so the evidence already exist, that the west is playing games with this pandemic , they try to blame
    antony faucci ,as the only one responsible for funding wuhan lab ,but all american federal government ,and both political parties , and intel agencies ,never c omplained of US funding of that lab earlier.. this is what they are not telling to american people.. that obama administration , all the entire governmnet was fully aware and fully supportive of this virus reasearch operation in wuhan.
    but now that they want to use the pandemic , to destroy china economically ,they are acting ,as if in 5 years , the american government passed hundreds of millions , to china , with american universities traveling there to wuhan lab,, with us embassy full knowledge , but now suddenly is all to blame in antonny faucci ,the Center of deceases director in charge of dealing with the emergency.

    This all looks like a game , they are playing  , but failed to implement . and now biden have given
    90 days to its entire government ,to create a coalition to blame china for the virus , but that will be impossible to happen , if europe don't join the side of US to isolate china from the world. pirat

    it all looks.. that.
    Today covid19 pandemic ,is a false flag operation gone wrong , that they are trying to rescue , something of it , and if europe don't side with US claims , then at least try to provoke a public opinion boycott on china economy and to avoid their products.

    how complicated false flags can be ?

    look non further than world trade centers attacks , is impressive how far they went to bring down
    3 buildings and later blame chinese. .err.. i mean middle east afghan for it.

    deconstructing 911 wtc

    -the 3 buildings were already rigged with explosives according to engineers and scientist international organization. they found evidence of nanothermite explosives , of nano particles ,that only top labs in the world can build.
    -the planes were used as a distraction ,to justify the collapse of the buildings.

    - israeli demolition company was doing experiments just months earlier ,in demolition near wtc.

    -am israeli "Artist delegation" was allowed full access to the buildings ,for a project they had months earlier .

    -george bush brother was in charge of the security during the time they rigged the explosives.

    -reports of security police , demanded to leave work early by their bosses ,

    - the pentagon attacks , was another inside bomb..coordinated to explode near at same time another military cargo plane fly over pentagon at near same time, but never crashed  , the bomb was inside.


    so the entire thing , in world trade center 911 was a full scale inside job ,with full cover up from nato and the bastard president of russia too,. vladimir putin ,that to this date ,the traitor ,continue saying it was "afgans who did it".  don't make mistakes ,putin is just milimeters away of being a criminal scum , for cooperating with anglozionist false flags, and helping their narratives.. and today is doing the same , keeping silence about this biological war ,that US started against the world. he needs to get the hell out of russia presidency and being arrested for treason , for covering that false flag and keeping silence about today pandemic.. this is why he is very dangerous , he look to the other side ,many times whenever the west do a mass scale criminal event in the world.
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    Post  kvs Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:32 pm



    The lockdowns are now totally detached from Covid-19. The UK is one of the countries that should no longer be in lockdown
    given the fact that everyone of 50 years is vaccinated, those that aren't are no longer important, and hospitalization rates
    and deaths have bottomed out. Recall that the flu did not have zero deaths, so demanding zero deaths from Covid-19 is
    pure nonsense. Assuming that there is no other agenda.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:15 am

    The unexplained and nearly forgotten events starting during the summer of 2019

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    The Fort Detrick laboratory that handles high-level disease-causing material, such as Ebola, in Fredrick, Maryland was shut after the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a cease and desist order to the organization in July, 2019.

    "a large-scale 'influenza' killed more than 10,000 people" in the US in August 2019 following the closure; US organized Event 201 - A Global Pandemic Exercise - in October 2019.

    300 US military personnel arrived in Wuhan for the Military World Games on October 19, 2019. The first coronavirus case appeared two weeks later, on November 2. Coronavirus incubation period is 14 days.

    and the COVID-19 epidemic broke out globally in February 2020
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:45 am

    JohninMK wrote:The unexplained and nearly forgotten events starting during the summer of 2019

    Michael Dean
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    @SenTomCotton
    The Fort Detrick laboratory that handles high-level disease-causing material, such as Ebola, in Fredrick, Maryland was shut after the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a cease and desist order to the organization in July, 2019.


    "a large-scale 'influenza' killed more than 10,000 people" in the US in August 2019 following the closure;  US organized Event 201 - A Global Pandemic Exercise - in October 2019.


    300 US military personnel arrived in Wuhan for the Military World Games on October 19, 2019. The first coronavirus case appeared two weeks later, on November 2. Coronavirus incubation period is 14 days.

    and the COVID-19 epidemic broke out globally in February 2020

    indeed...

    and that small pandemic that happened a few months earlier in maryland , secretly hidden today in Anglo media ,that no longer is mentioned . is the key to understand , that no only US is highly likely
    where covid19 began ,that is an american virus ,not chinese but it also suggest something even more darker.. that before they started the pandemic in china , they make sure to do , a backup plan to cover their tracks ,in case European Union elites betrays US and point fingers at them for starting the pandemic virus , and so US will have a way to claim ,it was "an accident" and not intentional. Rolling Eyes

    but looks pretty much ,the summer mini pandemic in maryland, was an operation , they had to do ,in order ,to have a way to claim ,in case the false flag completely fails ,to claim it was an "accident"

    and anyone who uploaded a video on youtube , mentioning those important facts  was banned from there . all the videos i uploaded a year ago , were also banned , even in less than 24 hours ,than i posted them here.  it is illegal in youtube ,facebook or twitter officially speaking ,to question the western official narrative of how the pandemic began. china did it and shut up , don't question it.  Laughing

    For people that look at the thing ,from a distance , the whole picture , it pretty much looks incredibly
    obvious US attacked china with a virus.. since they were already at war with china ,and china was only asking for restoring relations , US is the only one showing very desperate behavior to bring down china economy . so much as to kidnapping the daughters of Huawei founder in Canada by stopping her plane .  US are the only ones that will benefit ,from unleashing a biowar on china , and not the other way.  The one that is growing ,and expanding and showing very high potential to come to the top ,have no reason to resort to terrorism ,in such very risky things as it could be using bioweapons on a nation with thousands of nuclear weapons.  But US in the other hand , had very little to lose , if they already control the international banking system ,the internet under their control and set up more or less the rules , on top a very powerful influence over europe and as a bonus the help of the treasonous criminal president of russia to backup this false flag with his eternal silence ,whenever such things happens ,as it is doing now and as he did back in 2001 wtc false flag events.

    The good news in all this , is that it appears that they are dropping the lockdowns and reopening the economy in US , even when more than half of population not vaccinated ,which suggest a major change of tactics or that simply their plans are not working ,for total control of society . and that they could be ready to give up ,with the totalitarian lockdown state with endless closure.. however britain it is still showing signals ,to continue with the lockdowns , so time will tell.

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    Post  kvs Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:02 am



    Inanity.

    The labile mRNA in new-fangled and long-term unproven vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are not a news story but the ludicrous notion that
    viruses can survive transport in caustic smoke aerosol is ready for prime time TV news.

    There is basically no similarity to phlegm aerosol from coughing and sneezing and biomass burning aerosol. The latter contains lots of free radicals
    and reactive organic compounds. If these clowns are going to worry about wood smoke carrying viruses, then how about car exhaust?

    Note that in this tin foil hat theory drivel they are claiming that transport by wildfire convection is the danger since it supposedly bypasses
    the heat exposure.

    1) It does not stop the wood smoke exposure which will eliminate most pathogens.

    2) They are claiming that viruses are transported long distances and no longer an issue of exposure from the immediate vicinity. Are the Canadian
    backwoods full of millions of Covid-19 full blown cases being partially combusted by the wild fires?

    3) Any fire induced convection induced lofting of soil particles large enough to shield and contain bacteria does not involve long range transport as
    such particles are much lager than 20 microns and sediment quickly. This is why weaponized anthrax is processed to be in the sub 10 micron range.
    Normally clumped anthrax spores do not get transported far.

    The idea that wildfires spread Covid-19 is just as absurd as claiming that Covid-19 gets transported from city to city by the circulation of the air.



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    Post  kvs Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:18 am

    https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1401600070513008643

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    Right before you board a plane to sit for hours inches away from a perfect stranger, lol #COVIDtheater

    Covid-19 clown world.



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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:56 am

    kvs wrote:

    Right before you board a plane to sit for hours inches away from a perfect stranger, lol #COVIDtheater

    Covid-19 clown world.

    Someone made good money making those and millions of others and screens etc Mad
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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:07 pm

    China knows to strike where it hurts the most. Cool

    https://www.rt.com/usa/525961-lab-leak-iraq-wmds/

    Push of Covid-19 ‘lab leak’ theory ‘no different’ from Iraq WMD lies – Chinese Embassy

    The origin of Covid-19 is a subject of scientific inquiry that should not be politicized, embassy spokesman Liu Pengyu tweeted, adding: “The campaign to politicize the study of origins and smear China is no different from the lies about Iraq possessing weapons of mass destruction (WMD) 12 years ago.”
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    Post  kvs Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:57 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:China knows to strike where it hurts the most.  Cool

    https://www.rt.com/usa/525961-lab-leak-iraq-wmds/

    Push of Covid-19 ‘lab leak’ theory ‘no different’ from Iraq WMD lies – Chinese Embassy

    The origin of Covid-19 is a subject of scientific inquiry that should not be politicized, embassy spokesman Liu Pengyu tweeted, adding: “The campaign to politicize the study of origins and smear China is no different from the lies about Iraq possessing weapons of mass destruction (WMD) 12 years ago.”

    The problem is that China does not have full control over its own territory. It allowed NIH sponsored virus research at Wuhan. What did it
    expect to happen? The yanquis are criminally insane and cannot be trusted on anything. They demand total submission to their will and
    will use every dirty trick they can think of to destroy those that disobey. So China let these criminals stage a psyop on its own soil.
    Denying the leak is not going to make the smear go away. It will only make China look pathetic.

    China should emphasize the NIH angle. Fox News reports on this critical detail, so it is properly the responsibility of the USA.

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    Post  Kiko Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:11 pm

    Spanish President Pedro Sánchez in a state visit to Buenos Aires, Argentina, stated to be in favour of the Sputnik V vaccine acceptance for joining the EU.

    https://mundo.sputniknews.com/20210609/el-presidente-espanol-a-favor-de-que-se-acepte-la-vacuna-sputnik-v-para-ingresar-en-la-ue-1113072460.html

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:23 am

    In the news today:
    called the Delta variant

    China Returns to Its Strict Covid Restrictions to Fight a New Outbreak
    Keith Bradsher 8 hrs ago

    BEIJING — Neighborhoods under strict lockdown. Thousands quarantined. Millions tested in mere days. Overseas arrivals locked up for weeks and sometimes months.
    The latest cases have been found in Guangzhou, capital of the southern province of Guangdong. The authorities have blamed the Delta variant, which has caused widespread loss of life in India.

    The city tested practically its entire population of 18.7 million between Sunday and Tuesday, some of them for the second time. It has also put neighborhoods with a total of more than 180,000 residents into total lockdowns, with practically no one allowed out except for medical testing.

    The early infections appear to have jumped from person to person at a cluster of eateries. Each infected person has infected more other people than in any previous outbreak that China has confronted, Zhang Zhoubin, deputy director of the Guangzhou Center for Disease Control, said at a news conference.

    “The epidemic faced by Guangzhou this time is an unprecedented opponent, and it requires more resolute and decisive measures to deal with it,” he said.

    The spread of the virus has raised fresh questions about the effectiveness of China’s vaccines, particularly against variants. The Seychelles last month and now Mongolia in the past three weeks have both had large numbers of infections despite high vaccination rates. Both have used the Sinopharm vaccine from China, although the Seychelles also relied partly on AstraZeneca vaccines

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-returns-to-its-strict-covid-restrictions-to-fight-a-new-outbreak/ar-AAKRR89
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    Cowboy's daughter wrote:In the news today:
    called the Delta variant

    China Returns to Its Strict Covid Restrictions to Fight a New Outbreak
    Keith Bradsher  8 hrs ago

    BEIJING — Neighborhoods under strict lockdown. Thousands quarantined. Millions tested in mere days. Overseas arrivals locked up for weeks and sometimes months.
    The latest cases have been found in Guangzhou, capital of the southern province of Guangdong. The authorities have blamed the Delta variant, which has caused widespread loss of life in India.

    The city tested practically its entire population of 18.7 million between Sunday and Tuesday, some of them for the second time. It has also put neighborhoods with a total of more than 180,000 residents into total lockdowns, with practically no one allowed out except for medical testing.

    The early infections appear to have jumped from person to person at a cluster of eateries. Each infected person has infected more other people than in any previous outbreak that China has confronted, Zhang Zhoubin, deputy director of the Guangzhou Center for Disease Control, said at a news conference.

    “The epidemic faced by Guangzhou this time is an unprecedented opponent, and it requires more resolute and decisive measures to deal with it,” he said.

    The spread of the virus has raised fresh questions about the effectiveness of China’s vaccines, particularly against variants. The Seychelles last month and now Mongolia in the past three weeks have both had large numbers of infections despite high vaccination rates. Both have used the Sinopharm vaccine from China, although the Seychelles also relied partly on AstraZeneca vaccines

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-returns-to-its-strict-covid-restrictions-to-fight-a-new-outbreak/ar-AAKRR89



    The World Health Organisation has a new naming system, using the Greek alphabet, for coronavirus variants of concern. The Delta variant was previously known as the “Indian variant”, as it was first found in India. It's one of three sub-lineages of the Indian variant, and is also known as B.1.617.2



    What’s the Delta COVID variant found in Melbourne? Is it more infectious and does it spread more in kids? A virologist explains

    https://theconversation.com/whats-the-delta-covid-variant-found-in-melbourne-is-it-more-infectious-and-does-it-spread-more-in-kids-a-virologist-explains-162170


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    “Inactivated vaccines like Sinovac and Sinopharm are not as effective against infection but very effective against severe disease,” said Ben Cowling, an epidemiologist and biostatistician at the University of Hong Kong School of Public Health.

    “Although Mongolia seems to be having a spike in infections and cases, my expectation is that there won’t be large number of hospitalizations,” he added.

    And some virus variants may spread fast enough to cause concern even in countries where much of the population has vaccinations effective against them: Britain is dealing with a rise in cases linked to the Delta variant, despite having more than half of its adult population fully vaccinated, largely with shots from AstraZeneca and Pfizer.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/09/world/mongolia-covid-sinopharm-vaccine.html
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:47 am

    Ben Cowling, an epidemiologist and biostatistician at the University of Hong Kong School of Public Health.


    National Institute of
    General Medical Sciences
    Visitor Information
    NIGMS staff members are located in the William H. Natcher Building (also called Building 45) on the main NIH campus. The building is close to the Medical Center Metro (subway) stop on the Red Line. From the Metro platform at the Medical Center stop, take the escalator to the street level and enter the Gateway Center for security screening. Visitor parking is also available adjacent to the Gateway Center. For more information on security procedures, directions, parking, and related details, please refer to the NIH Campus Access and Security page on the main NIH website. The NIGMS street address is 45 Center Drive, MSC 6200, Bethesda, Maryland 20892-6200.

    https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/visitor-information/campus-access-security


    ​Cowling, Benjamin John
    BJC
    Professor and Division Head
    Division of Epidemiology and Biostatistics

    BSc (Warwick), PhD (Warwick), FFPH

    Biography
    Professor Benjamin Cowling joined the School of Public Health (SPH) at HKU in 2004. Prior to moving to Hong Kong, he graduated with a PhD in medical statistics at the University of Warwick (UK) in 2003, and spent a year as a postdoc at Imperial College London (UK). Professor Cowling has been the Head of the Division of Epidemiology and Biostatistics since 2013. He is responsible for teaching the introductory module in epidemiology on the MPH curriculum, and is the chairman of the Departmental Research Postgraduate Committee. Prof Cowling is a co-director of the WHO Collaborating Centre for Infectious Disease Epidemiology and Control at HKU SPH.

    Prof Cowling’s primary research focus is in infectious disease epidemiology. In recent years he has designed and implemented large field studies of influenza transmission in the community and the effectiveness and impact of control measures. His latest research has focused on the modes of respiratory virus transmission, influenza vaccination effectiveness, and immunity to infections at the individual and population level. He has strong links with China CDC, and the NIGMS-funded Harvard Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics.

    Professor Cowling is a fellow of the Royal Statistical Society and a Fellow of the UK Faculty of Public Health. He is the Editor-in-Chief of Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses, and an Associate Editor of Emerging Infectious Diseases.

    He has 426 publications listed in Scopus, including 49 articles with 49+ citations (H-index of 49). Prof Cowling has received numerous awards including a Croucher Senior Research Fellowship (2015), HKU Outstanding Researcher Award (2017), HKU Outstanding Young Researcher Award (2011), and American Journal of Epidemiology (AJE) Article of the Year 2014.

    More information


    https://sph.hku.hk/en/Biography/Cowling-Benjamin-John


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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:38 am

    https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2021/06/10/russia-looking-into-transferring-sputnik-vaccine-tech-to-vietnam

    Russia has started a process to consider transferring the technology behind the Sputnik V vaccine to Vietnam, said Valentina Matvienko, chairperson of the Federation Council, in a phone call with chairman of the National Assembly Vuong Dinh Hue.

    Hue also thanked Russia for a donation of 1, 000 Sputnik V vaccines and a recent deal to help the country secure an additional 20 million doses.

    The two sides have also been working around the clock to find ways to deliver more vaccines from Russia to Vietnam, stressing the importance of Vietnam-Russia bilateral ties and the time-honoured friendship.

    The two countries will continue exchanges of high-level delegates and share experience in law-making, as well as military ties. —Vietnam News/ANN

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    Post  Vann7 Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:00 am

    look at the circus happening in western media.. Rolling Eyes

    The US politicians behaving as if it was possible for just 1 person , without knowledge of the entire federal government , intel agencies , military ,and pharma industry , Obama administration and allies in the 5 eyes and NATO , to no be aware that American government was investing hundreds of millions of dollars , if not billions in their wuhan cooperation adventure. Rolling Eyes

    This is how you spot the coverup, the western politicians only question Antonny faucci over the money
    they give to finance wuhan , but notice how no one else is being questioned in congress hearings.

    -Obama is not being questioned for funding wuhan and showing china the viruses america
     have in their labs or sharing knowledge with them about viruses and vaccines against them.
    .
    -Intel agencies , not questioned for allowing this to happen.

    -FBI director not questioned for  this cooperation between US and China.

    -No question to US allies , Canada , UK ,Australia ,France ,Norway ,why they did not told poor americans , that their money was being used to help china ,become more educated about viruses and vaccines at very least.

    -No questions to american univesitities and american scientist who worked in wuhan lab.
    and you bet , it will never happen.because  any admission that american top univesities ,were in full cooperation with wuhan lab , for the research for viruses and how to counter them will have shown ,
    that the obama administration ,military and intel agencies was fully aware , of this cooperation between US and china for years and they found nothing wrong with that.
    Cool

    Now everyone should know , why this congress hearings over the question ,
    why antonny faucci gave the money to china , why this hearings did not happen during
    Trump administration and they were not interested in an entire year to question anthonny faucci over this shared cooperation with viruses. que answer is , because if they make this show , of anger ,
    during trump administration , against faucci , it will have spilled in no time ,to the entire democrat government ,and spilled over leftist directors in the CIA who was in control of the agency during obama admin.

    So they are now trying to make it look ,that just 1 scientist , can fool for years , an entire government , NATO , anglo and european intel agencies , and US universities.  this was not news , during obama admin , not a problem working at wuhan with china, not a problem with trump first year  either . the problem began only with the pandemic , and when china exposed that wuhan was being funded by them too. That there was no secret lab anywhere ,with secret operations , and that NATO countries , their scientist ,had a major participation and cooperation with wuhan lab.  but don't dare to say that in a congress hearing ,because will be interrupted.  US political elites and media is blaming it all on just 1 person ,for this   chinese and american cooperation. and this is a clear bullshit attempt to hide the facts , that this cooperation between wuhan lab and american labs ,was wide and open and not a secret  , as they try now to make it look.



    it shows US government is trying to sacrifice just one guy and blame all US universities and tops labs participation with china in virus research on him and only him .  Rolling Eyes  taking for fools the entire american population , that the obama administration had nothing to do with this , and that they just blind trusted hundreds of millions of dollars to just one man and never audit in years ,how the money was used.pirat   this is ludicrous , stupid . if they trying to pull this stunt.   China and Russia ,can throw very inconvenient questions to the west , that they will rather not answer ,if they keep insistings in blaming china for the virus.   i don't see how this "china virus" story can hold for long ,without europe strong support and media support too.  looks like novichok stories again , russia did it and shut up. Smile

    how this all will end? don't be surprised , if they find Antonny Faucci hanged with both hands tied , and with 1 shot in the back and the investigation later say ,they found a letter confessing china paid them to get the virus and claim he committed suicide. pirat this is going to be interesting to say the least.. to have faucci freely speaking is dangerous and he had to be under arrest by now ,and not told in the media. he should know too much information that can sink the entire image of US and can even say ,who was the idea ,of the US and China cooperation in virus reasearch.

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    Post  kvs Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:24 pm

    These new strains are being subject to hysterical fear mongering. The India strain is actually less lethal than the ones from 2020
    and the underlying fact is that Covid-19 has not progressed in India towards natural saturation. So the progression of the pandemic
    through India is being convoluted with a particular strain. This "Delta" strain is more of the same nothingburger like the South Africa
    strain and the British strain.

    The only criterion of interest is the mortality as a percentage of the cases. It is clearly converging to flu levels. But instead of
    accepting that Covid-19 is here to stay as another flu, we have repressive lockdowns in Canada for travel between provinces while
    airports are open (in the UK as well). So the regimes running the UK and Canada want new strains to arrive and fluff up the mortality
    numbers to keep the lockdowns going and going. I do not have to explain their motivations, I am invoking empirical fact. If
    someone thinks that there must be a detailed explanation of the motivations to "prove" the manifest policy behaviour by these
    regimes, they can go and get fcuked. Apply the same standard when accusing Putin and Russia of "murdering oppositionists".
    For some reason in that case the motive is not even a consideration and instead some BS exotic weapon is proof enough.



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    Post  kvs Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:41 pm

    The vaccine effectiveness claims are drivel.   The process of immune response is the digestion of virus particles or fragments by
    macrophages that under T-cell mediation supply information to B-cells that produce antibodies which target specific molecules.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK26827/

    The BS about which vaccine is more effective can only, in physical reality as opposed to propaganda, involve the target molecules
    for the antibodies.   It is possible that antibodies facilitated by a vaccine are less effective at fighting off an infection because
    the target molecule does not present itself as an easy target.   So the spike molecules that the Pfizer mRNA vaccine targets
    are clearly an easy target for the antibody that is created to attack them.   It is also likely that the virus casing is fully ruptured
    by the antibody "attack" on these specific proteins.    If the target molecule is part of the viral RNA (it is possible for a minced or
    inactivated virus used to supply foreign proteins for the vaccine to have them originate from any part) then clearly no antibody is
    going to be able to attack its target because it is hidden by the virus casing.

    It looks to me like one of the "advantages" of mRNA vaccines is that they saturate the body with GMO cell production of viral
    proteins (specifically the spike one).   This forces a more intense immune system response.   Recall that regular vaccines typically
    require an adjuvant to wake the immune system up by producing inflammation.    The need for two vaccine shots is also part of
    the same issue, that the immune system is not a computer but a fuzzy system that forgets or does not learn enough.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booster_dose

    But even mRNA vaccines require a second shot so they are not some medical wonder and their risks cannot be fobbed off.

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