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    Post  Kiko Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:06 pm

    Budapest’s use of Russia’s Sputnik V ‘paid off’ despite EU’s attempt to ‘politicize’ vaccine, Hungarian FM Szijjarto tells RT
    4 June, 2021.

    Hungary stands by its decision to use Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine, Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto has said, adding that it is regrettable that Brussels turned the fight against Covid-19 into a political issue.

    The Central European state has been able to reopen its economy thanks to a “very successful” vaccination campaign that included the Russian-made jab, Szijjarto told RT on the sidelines of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF).

    “I’m happy to see life coming back to Russia, and if you come to Hungary you will see that this is basically a similar situation,” the diplomat said, noting that Sputnik V “had a role” in returning things to normal back home. Most of the 2 million doses that Hungary received from Russia have already been administered, according to Szijjarto.

    Budapest began using Sputnik V in February, choosing not to wait for the green light from the European Medicines Agency. The decision led to criticism from Brussels, which claimed Hungary was complicating the bloc’s efforts to coordinate vaccination roll-outs.

    According to Szijjarto, Hungary has proven the skeptics wrong and demonstrated that deploying Sputnik V was the right move.

    "You cannot imagine the attacks we have received for making this decision, but at the end of the day, it paid off. And now everybody sees that we have really made the right decision,” he said, adding that it was unfortunate that Brussels got caught up in politics while responding to the health crisis.

    The European Commission made a big mistake at the very beginning by considering vaccines as if they were issues of ideology or geopolitics.

    The EU should have been more proactive about acquiring vaccines, Szijjarto argued, while stressing that all shots needed to be properly screened before receiving emergency use authorization. Hungarian experts conducted a “thorough and long procedure” before approving Sputnik V, the foreign minister said, and the Russian jab was not deployed in a “blind” way.

    While acknowledging strains in the EU’s relationship with Russia, the Hungarian diplomat made the case that both parties would benefit from closer cooperation, and that the pandemic provides an “opportunity” to bolster bilateral relations between the bloc and Moscow.

    Hungary has the highest rate of Covid-19 vaccination in the European Union. More than 60% of adults in the country have now been jabbed, according to Szijjarto. The country has deployed several shots that received emergency approval from EU regulators, such as the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, as well as drugs that were independently authorized by Budapest, like Sputnik V and China’s Sinopharm.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/525632-hungary-sputnik-v-szijjarto/

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    Post  kvs Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:12 pm

    But according to Swiss degenerates Sputnik V has no effect on the Covid-19 virus.

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    Post  Aristide Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:48 pm

    We dont need Sputnik V in the EU. We have more than enough vaccine ourself now. Infact COVID numbers in the EU collapse now because the progressing vaccine rollout.

    I got my first dose of Moderna at 19th May and will get my 2nd shot at 30th june. I had no unusual side effects, beside that my arm did hurt 2 days and little fever which is normal for any vaccination.

    Russia has far higher number of COVID numbers now and very low vaccination numbers, it now neeeds all vaccine it can get. It would be simply stupid if the EU which already has gigantic amounts of vaccines, buys off from countries which have far less.

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    Post  Aristide Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:54 pm

    GarryB wrote:Normal standard vaccines work and are tried and trusted and have a history and solid background.

    The problem is that a few western companies realised a lot of money is going to be thrown at this so they took an experimental vaccine design that has never been used before and therefore has no history or track record.... it has potential, but it also has so many unknowns that they demand customers sign waivers because even they don't know what is going to happen.

    If we can get enough people vaccinated and the virus becomes more isolated into much smaller pockets then there is a better chance of it being marginalised... the sort of thing you will get shots for if you are going to a particular country like Malaria...  

    The way it spreads so efficiently suggests it was weaponised, but everyone rushing to blame China should keep aware of American tendrils in this salad of death... you would think with their bio weapons labs located all around the world that they would have been the first up and best dressed and the most prepared and competent regarding this situation, and of course they are going to blame Trump... I am surprised they haven't blamed Trump for AIDS... I remember in the 1980s and 90s that was going to kill everyone and everything everyone talked about was AIDS, but how often is it mentioned today?

    Horses worked too for thousands of years. Doesnt change the fact we switched to cars and trains. Same with vaccines. mRNA vaccines are the future. They create superior vaccines and i a short timespan and btw also are leading the way to cancer curement.

    We now have alot of data. And all data shows that the two mrna vaccines from Biontech and Moderna are superior to any other vaccines, with extreme high prevention rates up to 95% and they work with all known virus strains.
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    Post  elconquistador Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:08 pm

    @lancelot The data in the chart doesn't correlate with the calendar year of 2020, and is also per 100 000 people

    As for the statistics provided by you, I couldn't access the Swedish Bureau of Statistics (?) but I'll take your word for it.

    My main point was that lockdowns (with the necessary fear mongering to fear-clobber the population into compliance) are not only unproductive, they are actually counter-productive, on all metrics

    A recent German study said the same but received very little coverage in the mainstream media

    The Reuters article below concludes the same. Nordic countries that were known for their (relatively) lax measures experienced no to minor increases (which can partly be explained by increasing population anyway) whilst strictly locked down countries experienced major increases in the Death rates

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2BG1R9

    @Cowboys daughter Ivermectin, mega dosing Vitamin C and HCQ have all proven to be effective (yet labeled ineffective, dangerous and were in the end prohibited)

    I believe that in the USA many of these medicines are now prohibited but they should still be easily available online. If not you can always contact your nearest drug pusher for some of that Ivermectin magic.

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    Post  Kiko Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:18 pm

    We dont need Sputnik V in the EU. We have more than enough vaccine ourself now.

    Shaddap and écoute. Fais pas le con:

    Venezuela signs an agreement for the purchase of Russian vaccine EpiVacCorona.

    https://mundo.sputniknews.com/20210604/venezuela-firma-contrato-para-importar-la-vacuna-rusa-epivaccorona-1112911774.html
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:19 pm

    elconquistador wrote:@lancelot The data in the chart doesn't correlate with the calendar year of 2020, and is also per 100 000 people

    As for the statistics provided by you, I couldn't access the Swedish Bureau of Statistics (?) but I'll take your word for it.

    My main point was that lockdowns (with the necessary fear mongering to fear-clobber the population into compliance) are not only unproductive, they are actually counter-productive, on all metrics

    A recent German study said the same but received very little coverage in the mainstream media

    The Reuters article below concludes the same. Nordic countries that were known for their (relatively) lax measures experienced no to minor increases (which can partly be explained by increasing population anyway) whilst strictly locked down countries experienced major increases in the Death rates

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2BG1R9

    @Cowboys daughter Ivermectin, mega dosing Vitamin C and HCQ have all proven to be effective (yet labeled ineffective, dangerous and were in the end prohibited)

    I believe that in the USA many of these medicines are now prohibited but they should still be easily available online. If not you can always contact your nearest drug pusher for some of that Ivermectin magic.

    True, or factual, about ivermectin. In Texas, thus far, anyone can go to a feed store (store that sells feed, medicine, etc for animals), and buy Ivermectin made for animals. One of my Granddaughters works at one, and she said that ivermectin flew off of the shelves when covid was at it's worst in this area!
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    Post  lancelot Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:29 pm

    @Aristide So how many COVID-19 vaccines did France's much vaunted pharmaceutical industry produce then?
    The fact is in most countries in the EU they are still slowly rolling out vaccines to the elderly and the main population isn't being vaccinated yet.
    In France, the vaccine is being rolled out to those 55 years old or older. In France only those younger with preexisting conditions are being vaccinated.
    I assume you were in one of the danger groups otherwise you wouldn't be vaccinated being 24 years old.
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    Post  Aristide Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:54 pm

    Kiko wrote:
    We dont need Sputnik V in the EU. We have more than enough vaccine ourself now.

    Shaddap and écoute. Fais pas le con:

    Venezuela signs an agreement for the purchase of Russian vaccine EpiVacCorona.

    https://mundo.sputniknews.com/20210604/venezuela-firma-contrato-para-importar-la-vacuna-rusa-epivaccorona-1112911774.html

    Venezuela 😆 who you praise next? Congo?
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    Post  Aristide Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:56 pm

    lancelot wrote:@Aristide So how many COVID-19 vaccines did France's much vaunted pharmaceutical industry produce then?
    The fact is in most countries in the EU they are still slowly rolling out vaccines to the elderly and the main population isn't being vaccinated yet.
    In France, the vaccine is being rolled out to those 55 years old or older. In France only those younger with preexisting conditions are being vaccinated.
    I assume you were in one of the danger groups otherwise you wouldn't be vaccinated being 24 years old.

    Wrong, im fit and healthy. I got my vaccine because my job.

    And fact remains, EU belongs to global areas with highest vaccination rates.
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    Post  Kiko Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:51 am

    Brazil's national sanitary supervision agency (ANVISA) gives the green light to Sputnik V Russian vaccines by its Northeast states.

    The Governors of the Northeast states signed with RDIF a deal for the purchase of a total of 37 million doses of Sputnik V.

    https://www.brasil247.com/regionais/nordeste/anvisa-autoriza-importacao-da-sputnik-v-por-estados-do-nordeste?amp

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:11 am

    I had no unusual side effects, beside that my arm did hurt 2 days and little fever which is normal for any vaccination.

    I have been getting the flu vaccine for the last decade or so and have never had two days of a hurt arm or any fever, so you did have side effects, but they were minor.

    Horses worked too for thousands of years. Doesnt change the fact we switched to cars and trains.

    One of the reasons for the shift away from horses was horse shit.... it rapidly builds up in a city with lots of horses, so cars and buses and trains merely shifted the shit from all over the ground causing problems with bacteria and disease and also obviously smell, to putting shit in the air.

    Another reason is that no matter what noise is made a car will not spook and run away and become a danger to other people.

    Same with vaccines. mRNA vaccines are the future. They create superior vaccines and i a short timespan and btw also are leading the way to cancer curement.

    They might be, but it will take decades of tests and lab work before we can really determine if they are actually safe or not.

    Right now they are doing a bold experiment on the human population of the world, and I am not a gambler when it comes to my health.

    We now have alot of data. And all data shows that the two mrna vaccines from Biontech and Moderna are superior to any other vaccines, with extreme high prevention rates up to 95% and they work with all known virus strains.

    What is the quality of the data though, if it comes from the companies then I wouldn't trust it... and many governments as the EU has proven have a clear political bias.... I would expect the EU to openly publish any negative results for Sputnik V because it would be in their interests to do so... in fact with their polonium and Novachok bullshit they would likely be happy to make shit up too, so why would I trust any information coming from western countries in general. Most other countries using these experimental vaccines have to sign a waiver which not only protects the company from being sued but likely also protects them from negative publicity too so any bad results wont be published either.

    whilst strictly locked down countries experienced major increases in the Death rates

    New Zealand had lockdowns and didn't have any increases in death rates.

    @Cowboys daughter Ivermectin, mega dosing Vitamin C and HCQ have all proven to be effective (yet labeled ineffective, dangerous and were in the end prohibited)

    Ivermectin... isn't that sheep drench?

    And mega dosing Vitamin C is dangerous. As a hunter I know some arctic animals have lethal concentrations of Vitamin C in some of their organs, so taking lots of Vitamin C without doctors advice is rather stupid.

    Vitamin C is an important thing for most people, as is Vitamin D which sun safe mantra in modern western society means a lot of people miss out on. Regular exposure to sunlight and regular vitamin C should be a normal part of everyones routine if they can help it... but buying shit on the internet is not smart... talk to your doctor.

    We dont need Sputnik V in the EU. We have more than enough vaccine ourself now.

    Good... more for the rest of the world then.

    Venezuela 😆 who you praise next? Congo?

    Praise where praise is due... they are trying to save their population from suffering and death... something the EU doesn't appear to consider important... in fact worse than that... they criticise countries within the EU that also want to help save people like Hungary... what a bunch of aholes... how did they get elected... oh yeah... they weren't... they were appointed like kings...



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    Post  Aristide Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:29 am

    GarryB wrote:
    I had no unusual side effects, beside that my arm did hurt 2 days and little fever which is normal for any vaccination.

    I have been getting the flu vaccine for the last decade or so and have never had two days of a hurt arm or any fever, so you did have side effects, but they were minor.

    Horses worked too for thousands of years. Doesnt change the fact we switched to cars and trains.

    One of the reasons for the shift away from horses was horse shit.... it rapidly builds up in a city with lots of horses, so cars and buses and trains merely shifted the shit from all over the ground causing problems with bacteria and disease and also obviously smell, to putting shit in the air.

    Another reason is that no matter what noise is made a car will not spook and run away and become a danger to other people.

    Same with vaccines. mRNA vaccines are the future. They create superior vaccines and i a short timespan and btw also are leading the way to cancer curement.

    They might be, but it will take decades of tests and lab work before we can really determine if they are actually safe or not.

    Right now they are doing a bold experiment on the human population of the world, and I am not a gambler when it comes to my health.

    We now have alot of data. And all data shows that the two mrna vaccines from Biontech and Moderna are superior to any other vaccines, with extreme high prevention rates up to 95% and they work with all known virus strains.

    What is the quality of the data though, if it comes from the companies then I wouldn't trust it... and many governments as the EU has proven have a clear political bias.... I would expect the EU to openly publish any negative results for Sputnik V because it would be in their interests to do so... in fact with their polonium and Novachok bullshit they would likely be happy to make shit up too, so why would I trust any information coming from western countries in general. Most other countries using these experimental vaccines have to sign a waiver which not only protects the company from being sued but likely also protects them from negative publicity too so any bad results wont be published either.

    whilst strictly locked down countries experienced major increases in the Death rates

    New Zealand had lockdowns and didn't have any increases in death rates.

    @Cowboys daughter Ivermectin, mega dosing Vitamin C and HCQ have all proven to be effective (yet labeled ineffective, dangerous and were in the end prohibited)

    Ivermectin... isn't that sheep drench?

    And mega dosing Vitamin C is dangerous. As a hunter I know some arctic animals have lethal concentrations of Vitamin C in some of their organs, so taking lots of Vitamin C without doctors advice is rather stupid.

    Vitamin C is an important thing for most people, as is Vitamin D which sun safe mantra in modern western society means a lot of people miss out on. Regular exposure to sunlight and regular vitamin C should be a normal part of everyones routine if they can help it... but buying shit on the internet is not smart... talk to your doctor.

    We dont need Sputnik V in the EU. We have more than enough vaccine ourself now.

    Good... more for the rest of the world then.

    Venezuela 😆 who you praise next? Congo?

    Praise where praise is due... they are trying to save their population from suffering and death... something the EU doesn't appear to consider important... in fact worse than that... they criticise countries within the EU that also want to help save people like Hungary... what a bunch of aholes... how did they get elected... oh yeah... they weren't... they were appointed like kings...




    I have that side effects after evry vaccination. The worst side effects i always have when i get a tetanus vaccination. My arm hurts extremly for several days then. I have a very strong immune response in general to vaccinations.

    In march i got 3 vaccines at once. Typhus, Hepatitis A and Yellow fever and this was harder than my covid jab.

    As for the EU, that you critisize so harsh here. Its under the Top 3 regions of the world regarding vaccination rates. No other area produces more vaccine. Of the 4 vaccines avaivable in the western world, 3 are european and Nr. 4 is ready in next weeks as well.

    In the EU almost 50% now have their 1st jab. thats almost 250 million people.

    And i now must say something for the EU. Why blame the EU for something my country did? It was France that initially delayed the deals regarding vaccines. The pfizer / biontech vaccine is German and France wanted secure that the french pharma corporations win too...which delayed and stalled evrything.

    And if Venzuela want save their population they should drop communism...

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    Post  elconquistador Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:36 am

    Ivermectin... isn't that sheep drench?

    And mega dosing Vitamin C is dangerous. As a hunter I know some arctic animals have lethal concentrations of Vitamin C in some of their organs, so taking lots of Vitamin C without doctors advice is rather stupid.

    Vitamin C is an important thing for most people, as is Vitamin D which sun safe mantra in modern western society means a lot of people miss out on. Regular exposure to sunlight and regular vitamin C should be a normal part of everyones routine if they can help it... but buying shit on the internet is not smart... talk to your doctor.


    Unless you live in a small town community where everybody knows everybody (ie. where the doctor is a local notable and acquaintance) I wouldn't take any advice from any doctor.  Partly because they are unreliable but mostly because they are just un-knowlegdable. The third leading cause of death in the USA is medical errors (~250 000 per year) and that's not even talking about how the medical profession has been bought off by Big Pharma.

    The study scaffolding those numbers can be found in the article below.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/in-a-review-of-337000-patient-cases-this-was-the-no-1-most-common-medical-error-2019-07-22

    As for Vitamin C, Dr. Linus Pauling (two time nobel prize winner) has documented the tremendous health benefits of megadosing vitamin C more than half a century ago already. Dr. Cathcart and Dr Krenner produced studies on the benefits of Vitamin C even before that

    The way vitamin C megadosing works is by simply boosting the immune system and being extremely effective against bacterial or viral infections. A few other illnesses can also be treated well while others - not so much. It's not a panaceum, it works best against bacteria, viruses, so actually ideal for such a thing like coronavirus or some antiobiotic-resistant bacteria.

    Below are a couple of extracts from his work. The notion that it is toxic 'because animals' is BS. Any surplus simply gets excreted through the kidneys. Whenever saturation occurs you can basically tell by flatulence and increased bowel movement.


    Studies and additional info can be found below

    Cathcart RF. Vitamin C, titrating to bowel tolerance, anascorbemia, and acute induced scurvy. Med Hypotheses. 1981 Nov;7(11):1359-76. Free access to full text paper at http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html

    Cathcart RF. The third face of vitamin C. Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine, 7:4;197-200, 1993. Free access to full text paper at http://www.doctoryourself.com/cathcart_thirdface.html

    Other papers by Dr. Cathcart are posted at http://www.doctoryourself.com/biblio_cathcart.html
    Hickey S and Roberts H. Ascorbate: The science of vitamin C. 2004. Lulu Press. ISBN 1-4116-0724-4. Reviewed at http://www.doctoryourself.com/ascorbate.html

    Duconge J et al. Pharmacokinetics of vitamin C: insights into the oral and intravenous administration of ascorbate. PR Health Sciences Journal, 2008. 27:1, March.

    All the other studies can be found here.

    http://www.orthomolecular.org/

    Obviously there is a very strong current going against Vitamin C as it is supercheap and cannot be patented. It should be obvious from which corner this opposition is coming

    Nevertheless Vitamin C megadosing is becoming more widespread with more orthemolecular practices opening each year.

    http://orthomolecular.org/resources/pract.shtml
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    Post  Aristide Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:17 am

    elconquistador wrote:
    Ivermectin... isn't that sheep drench?

    And mega dosing Vitamin C is dangerous. As a hunter I know some arctic animals have lethal concentrations of Vitamin C in some of their organs, so taking lots of Vitamin C without doctors advice is rather stupid.

    Vitamin C is an important thing for most people, as is Vitamin D which sun safe mantra in modern western society means a lot of people miss out on. Regular exposure to sunlight and regular vitamin C should be a normal part of everyones routine if they can help it... but buying shit on the internet is not smart... talk to your doctor.


    Unless you live in a small town community where everybody knows everybody (ie. where the doctor is a local notable and acquaintance) I wouldn't take any advice from any doctor.  Partly because they are unreliable but mostly because they are just un-knowlegdable. The third leading cause of death in the USA is medical errors (~250 000 per year) and that's not even talking about how the medical profession has been bought off by Big Pharma.

    The study scaffolding those numbers can be found in the article below.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/in-a-review-of-337000-patient-cases-this-was-the-no-1-most-common-medical-error-2019-07-22

    As for Vitamin C, Dr. Linus Pauling (two time nobel prize winner) has documented the tremendous health benefits of megadosing vitamin C more than half a century ago already. Dr. Cathcart and Dr Krenner produced studies on the benefits of Vitamin C even before that

    The way vitamin C megadosing works is by simply boosting the immune system and being extremely effective against bacterial or viral infections. A few other illnesses can also be treated well while others - not so much. It's not a panaceum, it works best against bacteria, viruses, so actually ideal for such a thing like coronavirus or some antiobiotic-resistant bacteria.

    Below are a couple of extracts from his work. The notion that it is toxic 'because animals' is BS. Any surplus simply gets excreted through the kidneys. Whenever saturation occurs you can basically tell by flatulence and increased bowel movement.


    Studies and additional info can be found below

    Cathcart RF. Vitamin C, titrating to bowel tolerance, anascorbemia, and acute induced scurvy. Med Hypotheses. 1981 Nov;7(11):1359-76. Free access to full text paper at http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html

    Cathcart RF. The third face of vitamin C. Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine, 7:4;197-200, 1993. Free access to full text paper at http://www.doctoryourself.com/cathcart_thirdface.html

    Other papers by Dr. Cathcart are posted at http://www.doctoryourself.com/biblio_cathcart.html
    Hickey S and Roberts H. Ascorbate: The science of vitamin C. 2004. Lulu Press. ISBN 1-4116-0724-4. Reviewed at http://www.doctoryourself.com/ascorbate.html

    Duconge J et al. Pharmacokinetics of vitamin C: insights into the oral and intravenous administration of ascorbate. PR Health Sciences Journal, 2008. 27:1, March.

    All the other studies can be found here.

    http://www.orthomolecular.org/

    Obviously there is a very strong current going against Vitamin C as it is supercheap and cannot be patented. It should be obvious from which corner this opposition is coming

    Nevertheless Vitamin C megadosing is becoming more widespread with more orthemolecular practices opening each year.

    http://orthomolecular.org/resources/pract.shtml

    Vitamin C of course has no effect against any virus pneumonia.
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    Post  elconquistador Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:27 am

    Aristide wrote:
    elconquistador wrote:
    Ivermectin... isn't that sheep drench?

    And mega dosing Vitamin C is dangerous. As a hunter I know some arctic animals have lethal concentrations of Vitamin C in some of their organs, so taking lots of Vitamin C without doctors advice is rather stupid.

    Vitamin C is an important thing for most people, as is Vitamin D which sun safe mantra in modern western society means a lot of people miss out on. Regular exposure to sunlight and regular vitamin C should be a normal part of everyones routine if they can help it... but buying shit on the internet is not smart... talk to your doctor.


    Unless you live in a small town community where everybody knows everybody (ie. where the doctor is a local notable and acquaintance) I wouldn't take any advice from any doctor.  Partly because they are unreliable but mostly because they are just un-knowlegdable. The third leading cause of death in the USA is medical errors (~250 000 per year) and that's not even talking about how the medical profession has been bought off by Big Pharma.

    The study scaffolding those numbers can be found in the article below.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/in-a-review-of-337000-patient-cases-this-was-the-no-1-most-common-medical-error-2019-07-22

    As for Vitamin C, Dr. Linus Pauling (two time nobel prize winner) has documented the tremendous health benefits of megadosing vitamin C more than half a century ago already. Dr. Cathcart and Dr Krenner produced studies on the benefits of Vitamin C even before that

    The way vitamin C megadosing works is by simply boosting the immune system and being extremely effective against bacterial or viral infections. A few other illnesses can also be treated well while others - not so much. It's not a panaceum, it works best against bacteria, viruses, so actually ideal for such a thing like coronavirus or some antiobiotic-resistant bacteria.

    Below are a couple of extracts from his work. The notion that it is toxic 'because animals' is BS. Any surplus simply gets excreted through the kidneys. Whenever saturation occurs you can basically tell by flatulence and increased bowel movement.


    Studies and additional info can be found below

    Cathcart RF. Vitamin C, titrating to bowel tolerance, anascorbemia, and acute induced scurvy. Med Hypotheses. 1981 Nov;7(11):1359-76. Free access to full text paper at http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html

    Cathcart RF. The third face of vitamin C. Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine, 7:4;197-200, 1993. Free access to full text paper at http://www.doctoryourself.com/cathcart_thirdface.html

    Other papers by Dr. Cathcart are posted at http://www.doctoryourself.com/biblio_cathcart.html
    Hickey S and Roberts H. Ascorbate: The science of vitamin C. 2004. Lulu Press. ISBN 1-4116-0724-4. Reviewed at http://www.doctoryourself.com/ascorbate.html

    Duconge J et al. Pharmacokinetics of vitamin C: insights into the oral and intravenous administration of ascorbate. PR Health Sciences Journal, 2008. 27:1, March.

    All the other studies can be found here.

    http://www.orthomolecular.org/

    Obviously there is a very strong current going against Vitamin C as it is supercheap and cannot be patented. It should be obvious from which corner this opposition is coming

    Nevertheless Vitamin C megadosing is becoming more widespread with more orthemolecular practices opening each year.

    http://orthomolecular.org/resources/pract.shtml

    Vitamin C of course has no effect against any virus pneumonia.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:34 am

    This could get ugly once the World really wakes up to the depth of US involvement to the tune of $100Ms and years of work.

    June 4, 2021 | Sundance | 95 Comments

    Red State is reporting on a defector to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) who is presumably giving the U.S. government information related to the leak from Wuhan BioLab.

    RED STATE – […] “Sources tell RedState the defector has been with the DIA for three months and that he has provided an extensive, technically detailed debrief to US officials. In DIA’s assessment, the information provided by the defector is legitimate. Sources say the level of confidence in the defector’s information is what has led to a sudden crisis of confidence in Dr. Anthony Fauci, adding that U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) personnel detailed to DIA have corroborated very technical details of information provided by the defector. (read more)

    Interestingly, one of the incredibly astute Twitter researchers who focuses on China, “aka Ben“, previously reported on the family of Sun Lijun who defected to Australia in February of last year. Sun Lijun was the former Chinese Deputy Minister of Public Security who was sent to Wuhan to manage (aka cover-up) the SARS-CoV-2 breakout. His wife and children fled China during the height of the pandemic spread.

    As Ben noted: after Sun Lijun’s family defected to Australia in February 2020, Sun Lijun was arrested by the Chinese Communist Party in April 2020 under the auspices of corruption charges; a familiar way of dealing with those who defy the communist regime. If the defector identified within the Red State reporting is accurate, the description would align with someone very close to Lijun (likely), if not Lijun himself (less likely).

    Ben is always well researched and accurate. We’ll keep watching…


    https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/06/04/exclusive-high-ranking-chinese-defector-has-direct-knowledge-of-several-chinese-special-weapons-programs-n391238

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/06/04/reported-chinese-defector-with-information-about-wuhan-lab-possibly-related-to-sun-lijun-former-chinese-deputy-minister-of-public-security/#more-212646

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:56 pm

    A: Ivermectin tablets are approved for use in humans for the treatment of some parasitic worms (intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis) and ivermectin topical formulations are approved for human use by prescription only for the treatment of external parasites such as headlice and for skin conditions such as rosacea.

    Ivermectin is FDA-approved for use in animals for prevention of heartworm disease in some small animal species, and for treatment of certain internal and external parasites in various animal species. People should never take animal drugs, as the FDA has only evaluated their safety and effectiveness in the particular species for which they are labeled. Using these products in humans could cause serious harm.

    I would say that a lot of persons in this area, who had covid, never went to a doctor, never got tested, and many went to the feed store and bought ivermectin, and took it.

    Along, perhaps with zinc, and vitamin c, and vitamin d. & other "home remedies", I don't remember. in other words, other over the counter medicines. No prescription needed.

    My son, who thinks he had it, way back in December, before it was known to exist in the USA, went to a doctor. They tested him for the flu, which came back negative, and for strep, also negative. He asked them what they thought he had, and they said: "Don't know, some kind of virus." He was working in a management position, in civil service, on an air force base. He was really sick, but never admitted to any hospital. & he's had open heart surgery, a valve replaced, an aortic aneurysm fixed, and has a pacemaker.

    It seems to me, if you go to the hospital, the outcome is not good. I really don't know the statistics, and no one should take my word as the gospel. But I'm not a fan of being put on a ventilator. Although, from what I've read in the news, many persons who went to the hospital, and put on ventilators did recover.

    The medical doctor who I see is not a fan of the vaccines.

    Furthermore, he is thoroughly prepared for any Armageddon.

    https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/product-safety-information/faq-covid-19-and-ivermectin-intended-animals
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Sat Jun 05, 2021 3:20 pm

    Garry as far as the artic animals I believe the problem is the vitamin A concentration. As an example there is a lot of vitamin A in the seals' liver (and also in the liver of polar bears and walruses)

    And vitamin A, while fundamental for the body, is toxic (and potentially deadly) in extreme dosis.

    https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/we-alaskans/2017/02/05/the-perils-of-eating-polar-bear/#:~:text=More%20serious%20is%20hypervitaminosis%20A,blurred%20vision%20and%20even%20death.

    As far as I know vitamin C does not have such issues. Some studies suggest than hyperdosis of vitamin C can have some positive effects.
    Furthermore vitamin C is hydrosoluble (soluble in water), while vitamin A and most of other vitamins are liposoluble (soluble in fat). That means that other vitamins are accumulated in the body, while excess vitamin C is lost from the body together with water.
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    Post  kvs Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:53 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Garry as far as the artic animals I believe the problem is the vitamin A concentration. As an example there is a lot of vitamin A in the seals' liver (and also in the liver of polar bears and walruses)

    And vitamin A, while fundamental for the body, is toxic (and potentially deadly) in extreme dosis.

    https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/we-alaskans/2017/02/05/the-perils-of-eating-polar-bear/#:~:text=More%20serious%20is%20hypervitaminosis%20A,blurred%20vision%20and%20even%20death.

    As far as I know vitamin C does not have such issues. Some studies suggest than hyperdosis of vitamin C can have some positive effects.
    Furthermore vitamin C is hydrosoluble (soluble in water), while vitamin A and most of other vitamins are liposoluble (soluble in fat). That means that other vitamins are accumulated in the body, while excess vitamin C is lost from the body together with water.

    The toxicity cannot be that high from vitamin A.   The Inuit and other Arctic peoples have been living off local meat for thousands of years.   I am sure
    that they have some adaptation to it, but they are not that genetically different.   The problem in modern times is that PCBs and other such toxins
    naturally migrate to the polar caps and bioaccumulate in the food chain and thus build up in human fatty tissues (and contaminate breast milk) through
    consumption.   PCBs are semi-volatile like mercury and do condensation/evapouration hops over land to the north where the lower temperatures "trap" them.


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    Post  JohninMK Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:33 pm

    Guess what, it was Obama that unleashed the hounds of Hell.

    Interesting Timing – Obama Administration Lifted Block on “Gain of Function Research” Just Eleven Days Before President Trump Took Office, January 9, 2017
    June 5, 2021 | Sundance | 205 Comments

    Okay, straight talk. This discovery makes the suspicions of an intentionally released Pandemic virus, with a political intent, to “STOP TRUMP” look exponentially more plausible. SARS = Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, the deadly consequence within COVID-19.

    With people beginning to recognize that U.S. government officials and the intelligence community have been less than honest, and in some cases downright lying, surrounding the origin of the SARS-CoV-2 virus; and when we overlay the political motives in the background of mass narrative deflection from media and other institutions; and when we consider the known lengths that people inside the U.S. government were willing to go in their efforts to eliminate President Trump; discovering that President Obama’s administration technically authorized the restart of “gain of function” research (biological weaponization of SARS virus) just days before President Trump took office… is way more than alarming. My hunch is this link might even disappear [SEE HERE]

    January 9, 2017 – “lifting the current moratorium on certain life sciences research that could enhance a pathogen’s virulence and/or transmissibility to produce a potential pandemic pathogen (an enhanced PPP).” (link)

    An even larger backstory. Eleven Days before leaving office President Obama’s administration re-authorized funding for the creation of biological weapons using SARS viruses. However, essentially this re-authorization was only kickstarting funding within the U.S. because the funding of weaponization of SARS-CoV-2 never actually stopped in 2014. The media reporting on this is misleading, if not downright false.

    Much more at https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/06/05/interesting-timing-obama-administration-lifted-block-on-gain-of-function-research-just-eleven-days-before-president-trump-took-office-january-9-2017/#more-212664

    Couple of posts from that link

    Big Earl
    June 5, 2021 4:14 pm

    It will be even less shocking when we find out this creation/release of a Cv19 bioweapon would not have been done had they not already known ahead of time there were certain inexpensive drugs/medications already in existence such as HCQ/Ivermectin that effectively countered the Cv19 ailments if treated early on…hence the mocking, ridiculing and censoring of everything HCQ/Ivermectin related once this leaked into the public as we just couldn’t have this manufactured crisis go to waste before the 2020 election.


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    June 5, 2021 4:20 pm

    The most devastating component of the China Flu was not the virus. It was the chemical and biological components that acted essentially as a biological catalyst or gateway to open the way for flu or cold like viruses to hit a person’s respiratory faster than a person’s immune system could react. That was the key weaponizing element of the China Virus.

    “Ooops articles” we are also seeing related to the proteins used in the vaccines points more and more to this being the case. It’s all related.

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    Post  Aristide Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:55 am

    JohninMK wrote:Guess what, it was Obama that unleashed the hounds of Hell.

    Interesting Timing – Obama Administration Lifted Block on “Gain of Function Research” Just Eleven Days Before President Trump Took Office, January 9, 2017
    June 5, 2021 | Sundance | 205 Comments

    Okay, straight talk. This discovery makes the suspicions of an intentionally released Pandemic virus, with a political intent, to “STOP TRUMP” look exponentially more plausible. SARS = Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, the deadly consequence within COVID-19.

    With people beginning to recognize that U.S. government officials and the intelligence community have been less than honest, and in some cases downright lying, surrounding the origin of the SARS-CoV-2 virus; and when we overlay the political motives in the background of mass narrative deflection from media and other institutions; and when we consider the known lengths that people inside the U.S. government were willing to go in their efforts to eliminate President Trump; discovering that President Obama’s administration technically authorized the restart of “gain of function” research (biological weaponization of SARS virus) just days before President Trump took office… is way more than alarming.  My hunch is this link might even disappear [SEE HERE]

    January 9, 2017 – “lifting the current moratorium on certain life sciences research that could enhance a pathogen’s virulence and/or transmissibility to produce a potential pandemic pathogen (an enhanced PPP).” (link)

    An even larger backstory. Eleven Days before leaving office President Obama’s administration re-authorized funding for the creation of biological weapons using SARS viruses. However, essentially this re-authorization was only kickstarting funding within the U.S. because the funding of weaponization of SARS-CoV-2 never actually stopped in 2014. The media reporting on this is misleading, if not downright false.

    Much more at https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/06/05/interesting-timing-obama-administration-lifted-block-on-gain-of-function-research-just-eleven-days-before-president-trump-took-office-january-9-2017/#more-212664

    Couple of posts from that link

    Big Earl
    June 5, 2021 4:14 pm

    It will be even less shocking when we find out this creation/release of a Cv19 bioweapon would not have been done had they not already known ahead of time there were certain inexpensive drugs/medications already in existence such as HCQ/Ivermectin that effectively countered the Cv19 ailments if treated early on…hence the mocking, ridiculing and censoring of everything HCQ/Ivermectin related once this leaked into the public as we just couldn’t have this manufactured crisis go to waste before the 2020 election.


    thedoc00
    June 5, 2021 4:20 pm

    The most devastating component of the China Flu was not the virus. It was the chemical and biological components that acted essentially as a biological catalyst or gateway to open the way for flu or cold like viruses to hit a person’s respiratory faster than a person’s immune system could react. That was the key weaponizing element of the China Virus.

    “Ooops articles” we are also seeing related to the proteins used in the vaccines points more and more to this being the case. It’s all related.


    There are no drugs that work against a Virus. The only working treatment is a vaccination. Antivirustatica are still experimental with very low results. HCQ / Ivermectin show zero efficiency agaimst Covid 19.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:56 am

    As for the EU, that you critisize so harsh here. Its under the Top 3 regions of the world regarding vaccination rates. No other area produces more vaccine. Of the 4 vaccines avaivable in the western world, 3 are european and Nr. 4 is ready in next weeks as well.

    In the EU almost 50% now have their 1st jab. thats almost 250 million people.

    And how much better off would they be if they had properly tested Sputnik V and cleared it for use and production... EU countries are getting sick of waiting for the EU to pull finger and they are ordering Sputnik V anyway because it has been proven to work.

    The only reason for the delay is political... pride... ego...

    Which is fine... more for the rest of us.

    And i now must say something for the EU.

    Yup, you are all selfish idiots and a lot more people are dying because of it.

    And if Venzuela want save their population they should drop communism...

    There is no communism in Venezuela. Maduro was elected in a free and open election. The US calls it communism because their bitch Guano didn't get elected, but he didn't get elected because no one in Venezuela even knows who he is... he is like Navalny... outside of his home country he is the opposition... inside his country most people don't know who he was... and would not cross the street to piss on him if he was on fire.


    Unless you live in a small town community where everybody knows everybody (ie. where the doctor is a local notable and acquaintance) I wouldn't take any advice from any doctor. Partly because they are unreliable but mostly because they are just un-knowlegdable. The third leading cause of death in the USA is medical errors (~250 000 per year) and that's not even talking about how the medical profession has been bought off by Big Pharma.

    So take advice from strangers on the internet instead?

    That should be fine... (Sarcasm).

    If you are worried then ask to see several doctors, or go to a dozen chemists and ask the pharmacist for free.

    As for Vitamin C, Dr. Linus Pauling (two time nobel prize winner) has documented the tremendous health benefits of megadosing vitamin C more than half a century ago already. Dr. Cathcart and Dr Krenner produced studies on the benefits of Vitamin C even before that

    Of course... Dr Linus Pauling... owner of the biggest orange orchard in California...

    But tell me, if your local doctors are all corrupt idiots who don't know what they are doing why do you trust these kooks?


    The way vitamin C megadosing works is by simply boosting the immune system and being extremely effective against bacterial or viral infections. A few other illnesses can also be treated well while others - not so much. It's not a panaceum, it works best against bacteria, viruses, so actually ideal for such a thing like coronavirus or some antiobiotic-resistant bacteria.

    So the tin foil hat solution to taking a vaccine jab is to ingest large volumes of vitamin C every day for the rest of your life... yeah... no... that does not sound crazy.

    Have had various people tell me all sorts of things about how wonderful garlic is, or ginger, or tyme or olive oil... they all swear by them.

    I am going to get vaccinated instead.

    This could get ugly once the World really wakes up to the depth of US involvement to the tune of $100Ms and years of work.

    June 4, 2021 | Sundance | 95 Comments

    Red State is reporting on a defector to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) who is presumably giving the U.S. government information related to the leak from Wuhan BioLab.

    They need a new play book... that defector is like that criminal Russian that was using drugs on his athletes and got caught and fled Russia and made up shit about Putins doping ring in Russia and got Russian athletes all banned as Russian athletes... wonder what the goal of this bullshit will be... perhaps the 2022 games in China will be cancelled... pathetic.

    A: Ivermectin tablets are approved for use in humans for the treatment of some parasitic worms (intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis) and ivermectin topical formulations are approved for human use by prescription only for the treatment of external parasites such as headlice and for skin conditions such as rosacea.

    Ivermectin is FDA-approved for use in animals for prevention of heartworm disease in some small animal species, and for treatment of certain internal and external parasites in various animal species. People should never take animal drugs, as the FDA has only evaluated their safety and effectiveness in the particular species for which they are labeled. Using these products in humans could cause serious harm.

    Prescription drugs are more dangerous than over the counter drugs... that is why a prescription is required so you have to talk to and get teh approval of a doctor before you can legally access such things.

    Doctors can be assholes, and want to make money by selling drugs from this or that drug company to earn their kickbacks and gifts, but they also have to be held accountable, which is not something some asshole on the internet needs to worry about.

    These internet warriors might never hear from the people they give this advice to unless some local reporter does a story on idiots injecting bleach into themselves or using medication for animals... the difference in body weight means the amount you use to treat a horse would kill any human... but when administering it yourself you have nothing to go on... except you want to make sure you take enough to get the job done first time...

    But I'm not a fan of being put on a ventilator.

    Try not being able to breath and you will give your left arm for a ventilator... any asthmatic will tell you what that is like for free.

    The medical doctor who I see is not a fan of the vaccines.

    I am no expert but there are now statistics and information on this virus which we did not have before.

    Obvious things you can do include increase vitamin C intake... the information I have seen suggests once the body gets enough it cannot store it so it goes through your kidneys and out through your urine, but you need regular intake for it to be effective.

    According to this:

    https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminC-HealthProfessional/

    As you increase doses the amount your body actually absorbs is reduced so trying to take lots of C could just be a waste of time without medical professional help anyway.

    Get lots of sun... vitamin D is important too but try not to burn... a ten minute walk in the middle of the day every day can build up a nice tan too... a few extra walks earlier and later when the sun is not so intense can build you up too... make them short so you keep doing it every day.

    Go to respected websites regarding details of who is dying to Covid... if they are all over 60 years old or have diabetes or asthma or other extra issue then that should effect your decision as to whether to get vaccinated or not. The point is that 60 plus with asthma and diabetes and you snore then I would take a vaccine...

    Otherwise there is less of an obligation to do so... you have to weigh up what you think the risk of you dying if you do catch covid with potential for complications with any vaccine.

    I snore like there is a road crew digging up the road outside my house every night and I have diabetes so I am getting the vaccine.

    Furthermore, he is thoroughly prepared for any Armageddon.

    I went last weekend... because of Covid the only famous thing there was Kitt...

    Garry as far as the artic animals I believe the problem is the vitamin A concentration. As an example there is a lot of vitamin A in the seals' liver (and also in the liver of polar bears and walruses)

    Oops... yes, you are correct.

    Excess Vitamin C just makes you urine turn a bright colour...

    The Inuit and other Arctic peoples have been living off local meat for thousands of years. I am sure
    that they have some adaptation to it, but they are not that genetically different.

    The Vitamin is concentrated in their livers so the local people who hunt and eat them simply discard the livers.

    The most devastating component of the China Flu was not the virus. It was the chemical and biological components that acted essentially as a biological catalyst or gateway to open the way for flu or cold like viruses to hit a person’s respiratory faster than a person’s immune system could react. That was the key weaponizing element of the China Virus.

    Considering the information in that post should we be calling it the China Virus... perhaps Obama Virus would be more appropriate... but then he would probably just get another peace prize or some such shit.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:17 pm

    Aristide wrote:And if Venzuela want save their population they should drop communism...

    Venezuela should ignore your meaningless whining and go full communism, first by jailing all the reactionary landlords who commits horrible crimes and homicides against the commune farmers and cooperate with foreign powers to sabotage Venezuela from the inside.

    Who care about your standard anyway as these are a bunch of political bias rather than objective, scientific assessments.

    It is not like I have anything against your preference of Pfizer or Moderna but keep it to yourself. Many other people are good with Sputnik or do not care about the producers and you have no position to command them.
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:45 pm

    This is all I meant about not being a fan of being put on a ventilator. From what I've read, sometimes weaning off of them is impossible.


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