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    Post  flamming_python Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:29 am

    The idea of divorcing career from the family. To have a career not serve your family, but be an end in and of itself

    Is equivalent to divorcing a fulfilling life from reproduction. You can have one or the other, or neither. But it's better to have both

    The modern-day West and the societies that draw inspiration from them - are in the name of economic efficiency and free market capitalism, forcing people to make a choice, to get rid of the family as it will only be a burden to you in a demanding career.
    Especially gruesome is the promotion of this attitude among women. But it's no wonder it takes hold.
    The economic incentives and expenses of day to day life, the demands of careers are such that you simply can't afford to have a big home with a loving family while balancing workload at the same time. Maternity leave is minimal, and mortgages are crippling.

    Of course the people who run these governments understand that this is causing birth-rates to plunge. But that's okay, they can just promote immigration instead.

    Yet with more immigration arise more inequalities, social contradictions and so on. And ultimately no country can be on the top forever, and always attract motivated skilled immigrants. What then?

    This strategy is doomed.

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    Post  Firebird Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:21 pm

    For those of you who missed it, shit is really going down in Britain today.
    We've been force fed a mountain of bend the knee, BLM nonsense and similar for a long time now.

    France won the Russia World Cup with I think 85% black players. When they were celebrating, it was mostly African dancing with the token white man joining in and looking cringeworthily pathetic. Naturally Macron had to get in the changing rooms to see some naked black torso and embrace them... as if he was warming up for some gay "Celebrity Blackd" porno.

    Anyway the Neoliberal Western media immediately used win that to basically try and kid us whites are rubbish at football, and countries with lots of 3rd world immigrants were far better places. And that places without lots of 3rd world immigrants were "rubbish and backwards" like.... "nasty racist Russia" (yes they said that too altho Russia pointed out it has 150 nationalities, all but 3 being very patriotic) Of course it was poor quality propaganda and only the most monglike believed it.

    So now we get the next tournament. England has its best team in ages. Only about 30% black, compared to normally 55%.
    It goes to penalties, a 90% indigeneous team wins it. England has 2 excellent penalties scored from indigeneous Brits. 3 black players take utterly appalling penalties ie 1 or 2 were of the level of a 6 yr old literally. Incredible unprofessionalism, like they couldn't be bothered.

    Frankly I hate GENUINE racism whether its from Hitler, or white nationalists, or black troublemakers, or "white guilt" faggots who talk shite all day on their BLM rallies. But our shitty media all want to cover up whats going on.

    Blacks are just 2% of Britains populatoon (2.5% are a mix of any races). Yet blacks are 55% of most club teams or even the England team.
    British people are sick of mass immigration (over immigration from the 3rd world where integration is rare and disharmony is common). ANd Brits are sick of the Neoliberal agenda that is causing misery for Brits, and allowing immigrants to take the piss in a variety of forms.

    Sport is sport. And society is society. The two are different things. The spin the media were trying with France's mostly black African world cup winners caused substantial offence in Britain. So there's something kind of ironic that its been shown massive importation from the 3rd World is NOT an automatic gateway to success. Infact... it CAN be gateway to disaster.

    What do people think?

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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:12 pm

    @Firebirds: most immigrants came to EU and US to seek jobs and career opportunities which they believe is not available in their homeland, and most of them do work their a** out to get an income.

    And the Western countries let immigrants come to them simply because they are manpowers, these immigrants are being hired by certain sectors which the local population does not want to do, or does not have enough men to do, or the local men will not work with low salary and terrible working conditions that many immigrants have no choice but do.

    Disaster or not, as long as the companies get profit and cut cost, they will continue the policy.

    For the "progressive" movements in the West, as we mentioned before, they are simply the means for the Western oligarchs and politicians to pursue their political profits and purge their enemies. In the U.S. racial and economical inequalities are persistent and become more severe, but of course we always hear about the U.S. boasting about its virulent "values".
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    Post  Kiko Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:24 am

    Protesters worldwide waving US flags as ‘symbol of freedom,’ I have bad news for you – it now stands for Snitch Nation, by Nebojsa Malic for RTNEWS. 12.07.2021.

    There is a special kind of irony at work when Cuban protesters demanding “freedom” are waving about American flags, while in the actual US, the government is rolling out retro-style repression in the name of Our Democracy.

    Large anti-government protests over the weekend saw Cubans chanting “freedom, food, vaccines.” The government blamed US “meddling” and decades-long blockade. One video from the protests showed someone holding up an American flag, prompting a Cuban-American commentator to declare, “Never forget what America represents to millions across the world.”

    While some Cubans may think the US is a bastion of freedom based on the images and narratives that reach them from Miami, it’s not clear what is the excuse of many Americans who believe so in the face of observable reality.

    Over the same weekend, conservative columnist James Bovard was out for a walk in a park near Washington,DC when he was warned – by men who looked like plainclothes police – that “photographing landmarks and the police are two warning signs of terrorists.”

    “Having a scruffy beard is a third warning sign,” the impressively bearded Bovard replied, and they nervously laughed it off.

    It wasn’t a laughing matter, though. On Sunday, the FBI tweeted out a call for “family members and peers” to “spot suspicious behaviors and report them” in order to “prevent homegrown violent extremism.”

    The actual resource they linked was barely repurposed from the Bureau’s playbook for countering Islamic State terrorists. The machinery built to wage the “global war on terror” has now been turned on the domestic population – just as journalists like Glenn Greenwald had warned back in January.

    This was right after the January 6 riot at the US Capitol. In the narrative of Our Democracy – which has apparently replaced the old American constitutional republic – that was an “insurrection” and the greatest threat to government ever. People who believe this – and they’re firmly in charge in Washington, even if the rest of the country may be slipping through their fingers – don’t care that facts go against their narrative. They’re determined to secure the power they worked so hard to “fortify,” after all.

    The FBI’s call for family and friends to snitch to the government has been compared to the East German Stasi and its tactics, or the Soviet KGB. The resemblances are indeed spooky. Add to this the role of the US intelligence community in the “Russiagate” conspiracy theory – and sabotage of an elected government based on it – and the picture becomes, well, alarming.

    It’s not just the US government being shady, either. Last week, Facebook started warning users about possible exposure to “extremist” content. What qualifies as such content? It can be anything, really, as the Menlo Park behemoth is keeping its definition vague. When you consider its founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg spent hundreds of millions to “fortify” the 2020 election, though, it’s not hard to guess.

    Our Democracy is such a paragon of freedom that the same people who howled about walls and fences being immoral and evil quickly put up a barrier around the Capitol after the January 6 riot – and kept it there for six months. The same people who denounced the calls for the National Guard to quell the deadly 2020 riots brought 25,000 troops to secure Joe Biden’s presidential inauguration. The last of them didn’t leave until late May.

    All of these are tactics the US has itself denounced, as emblematic of systems that Washington had spent the better part of the XX century actively fighting around the world – including in Cuba. A special kind of irony, indeed.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/529024-snitch-nation-american-flag/
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    Post  kvs Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:38 pm



    I forgive this guy his knee-jerk take on Cuba, China and Russia. But he cuts through the PC rot in the west like a hot knife through butter.



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    Post  flamming_python Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:33 pm

    kvs wrote:

    I forgive this guy his knee-jerk take on Cuba, China and Russia.   But he cuts through the PC rot in the west like a hot knife through butter.




    Yes yes of course hosting huge black pride marches where British monuments are defaced will raise racial consiousness in society. Which is not a good thing. It will of course lead to more racism not less.

    This guy isn't discovering America here, nor about the SJWs and the whole critical race theory agenda.

    And as for his takes on events around the world - he is a simple retard. Not worth my time
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    Post  Kiko Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:41 am

    Disaster: No Health Left at Cannes Film Festival, by Elena Karaeva for RIA Novosti. 17.07.2017.

    The scenes of the new film turned out to be so difficult to watch that the intervention of the ambulance service was required, because at the session of the film "Titan" by Julie Ducorno (the work was selected for the main competition of the forum) several dozen viewers became ill, they needed the help of doctors, as a result of these people were forced to be taken out of the hall.

    Ducorno's tape "Titan" (we are not talking about ancient mythology, but about a prosthesis made of this heavy-duty material) is blood, violence, contract killings, endless orgies in which the main character participates, he is also a heroine, this he / she is a transgender.

    If for you this is an intolerable "tough guy", then there is another picture, "Fracture", it is about the crisis of the hospital system in France , which coincided with the then "jaquery", the manifestation of "yellow vests".

    A couple of wealthy Parisian bourgeois, accustomed to the velvety of private clinics, find themselves in the hell of a Parisian state hospital. A modest "social girl" in the main competition of the main festival of the world (what does a film event on the Riviera like to call herself)?

    Not really.

    The bourgeois couple are lesbians. The doctor, or rather the nurse, who pulls one of the women out of trouble, is a black non-professional actress who plays herself.

    If the "social" does not roll, then maybe a love story?

    For example, the film of the uncrowned king and the usual favorite of the forum, Jacques Audiar?

    "Paris, 13th arrondissement" - once again about love. She loves him (we are happy), but he loves her, but her other one (we are confused), and he also loves her third (we are puzzled), and this third one loves her first.

    Audiar, who came to the cinema in the footsteps of the famous father of Michel Audiar, who began as an editor for Roman Polanski , co-wrote the script for "The Professional" (yes, the same, with Belmondo), this time decided to do - in an artistic sense - polyamorous.

    The listed tapes are the tops of the selection thought of the organizers of the event. And there is, of course, Kirill Serebrennikov's work "The Petrovs in the Flu" (everything is gray, dull, hallucinogenic, but, it should be noted, the family is still traditional, which by today's standards is practically open dissidence).

    In the main competition, six films tell about the life of LGBTQ people from one angle or another.

    This is a quarter of all films presented in this competition, which in fact is the main showcase of cinematic trends both at the moment and for several years to come.

    This is the set trend: those who dream of strolling along the Croisette and climbing the red carpet now know that just such a set of characters and a similar storyline can and, most importantly, will pave the way to career and fame.

    Today it is almost impossible to imagine that 30 years ago the forum opened names and was a tuning fork for artistic (and not sexological) research.

    Now the "star ticket" are those vital or physiological factors, which in all ages were purely private circumstances. Not intended for other people's attention, and certainly not for the plot of a movie story, and even with the Dolby system.

    A special and persistent shift of interest to the "lower floor" and to disability took place literally before our eyes.

    Why?

    In order to try to answer this question, it is worth paying attention to the following.

    The Riviera Film Forum is the third most important event after the Olympic Games and the Football World Cup from a media point of view.

    These are thousands of journalists, hundreds of media, a huge press center. In which all office equipment is from the largest American corporation (not Apple , but also from Silicon Valley).

    Actresses, starlets, half-light ladies, fashion models are being prepared for release by makeup artists, too, of a very large, planetary famous brand.

    The same goes for the provision of hairdressing services. They represent a different brand, but no less famous.

    An army of stylists comes to the festival, which dresses the participants of the event (and every day - in a new one), as well as a division of those who rent out jewelry.

    The advertising contracts of these market players with the festival are almost always barter ("we give you mascara, hairspray and diamonds to cover up, and you give us a global, for the whole world, a showcase"), the ratio of the invested funds and the resulting effect is calculated quite a specific increase in the percentage of profits.

    Global companies and corporations are looking for any opportunity for product placement, receiving colossal profits in return.

    Actually, it is their ideas and those values ​​that, as the globalist elites decided, need not only to be made acceptable, but also to be approved as a "new norm", and are being tested in Cannes.

    Then, when societies in the countries of the "entire civilized world" accept this, or, having resigned themselves (there is no reception against scrap) and slightly wrying, agree to surrender, these "new norms" will make it the only possible one.

    Those who disagree will be declared "reactionaries" and "enemies of progress", the pocket press will perform a ritual auto-da-fe - and the deed is done. Within the framework of gender fluidity, polyamory and other "labor bees' love".

    The "Cultural Revolution" galloped across Europe and stumbled over Russia.

    In which customers of one of the retail chains quite reasonably noticed that purchases are purchases, and it is better to put your rainbow orientation and other gender identity in the kitchen cabinet, these are your problems, and you should not overload the public space with the suffering of your personal "lower floor".

    As well as the attempt - within the framework of the same "progressivism" - to bring on the stage of the famous theater in the role of Ranevskaya, the transgender who is widely known in very narrow circles, Natasha suffered a fiasco.

    Simply because society asked: "Excuse me, but why the hell, instead of a classical play, you from the theater arrange a circus with bearded (once) women?"

    And the theater immediately disavowed everything.

    In a situation where today, on Saturday evening, a company of polyamorous transgender people and other activists-red guards, collective Europe , as well as "the entire civilized world" will appear on the stage of the Palais des Festivals , of course, it will be a pity.

    How prince Fabrizio Salina regretted the lost paradise from the immortal masterpiece of Luchino Visconti "Leopard".

    Exactly 58 years ago, this work of the master and one of the founders of Italian neorealism was awarded the Palme d'Or.

    The Leopard was awarded because it was a great film.

    Not because Signor Visconti was gay.

    It took European cinema a little more than half a century to climb the steps of the spiritual ladder that separate talent from the "lower floor".

    https://ria.ru/20210717/kinofestival-1741583543.html

    Later on the infamous "Manu" Macron congratulated Julie Ducorno.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:00 am

    to be honest here.

    Im 35, i live in western Europe.
    Male, no own familly with wife and kid(s) because i have an personal aversion to social obligation.
    Im a guy that takes a frozen bottle of vodka at saturday to my PC setup and game the night away untill daylight. Have an friend or two over and play the old co-op games.
    Or just talk about work and our hobbies with some booze.

    It means i had relations in the past, and i figured i am way happier waking up alone in bed in my house and go around my life doing as i want.
    I really do not want to judge other's here in their chosen lifestyles. I only wanted to point out my own way of living out here.

    And to be blunt i know most of my generation and the ones after are screwed up, disfunctional people.

    They grew up where mommy and daddy gave them whatever they wanted.
    On schools, they where told they where "special" and change the world.

    ...well, except for me.
    I wanted to become and professional soldier so they written me off for such "special" privileges.
    I saw movies like Black hawk down and We where soldiers and had such deep respect for that i aspired to be like them.
    I was called an dumbass for doing that.
    in retrospect, Joke is on them, as i got the good paying job now and half my old class on school are drug addicts or soy-boys living of state welfare.
    I pay for my own shit you losers, and my hard earned tax-money also sadly goes paying for your welfare.

    Western society is heavily flawed.

    The new generations all feel this is natural that they have all this wealth. they do not give it a second tought as their parents give everything they want to them.
    an 999 euro i-phone?. yes, its normal appearantly. Its for some people in the west an months worth of salary.
    But sure be ready to tweet the conditions in some 3-rd world country on that overpriced piece of crap.

    While you never ever achieved anything productive to society, Be sure to burn flags of your nation on social media.
    how its all the white man's fault. and Prefferably, go tear down some millitary monuments while you are at it.

    These absolute losers of society, that never experienced an day of hardship in their lives.
    Go spam social media full of their campaigns to make it a better world.
    Facebook,twitter, Tiktok, all cesspools of moral decay.

    I have my own negative experiences with my government.
    But i will never burn my nation's flag and will not allow anyone else to do that either.|
    I know Firemen, Police and Citizens that are great people and my friends.
    If they ask me to join in their work to help out for the emergency, i would.
    An nation's flag represent's its people and it unites us all in times of hardship.

    Or you know,....in an world Cup!. its always fun to support your team even if you do not like soccer! Wink

    my point is, The west is tearing itself appart right now.
    Duty, Honor and Service are quality's that are being shunned upon nowadays.

    The Woke mob likes to go trough every page of nation history and erase it.
    What is the point?. is it not more of an value you can point at it and say "that was what happened then, and look at us now"?.

    The BLM, what a fucking joke.
    Some drug addict got killed because he was high and was chewing an speedball. In his arrest he died of an overdose.
    But sure, let some political heavyweight like maxime waters claim they will otherwise burn the entire U.S  down if they do not get their way in court.

    LGBT-whatever?.
    I mention it often on other forums or public conversations.
    I support equal rights for all, not special rights for an minority.

    I really have bad experiences with LGBT-alphabet people in warzones.
    They have mental issues. And being in warzones just pushes them to the breaking point.
    An warzone is no area to conduct western social projects.
    the way they weasel out of any consequence pisses me off as well.
    suffering from "tactical freeze".
    sure, wetting yourself in an APC mumbling to yourself and your second in command had to over-ride the command radio and switch to an second channel to get YOUR men out of harms way from an ambush is an "tactical freeze".
    If i was one of those platoon soldiers, you are either put against an wall and shot when i get out alive or relieved of command and kicked out the army.
    i know i know, i left myself Razz. but just to illustrate the frustration here Razz.

    I believe in two variants of homo sapiens: Male and Female.

    you want to be some freak, go ahead.
    but i feel you should never be allowed in female bathrooms if you where an male if you know my meaning.
    my skin crawls when i think if an co-worker asks me to baby-sit their kid for an day.
    And i let their kid go to an public bathroom and some obvious guy, that now states he's an woman now. goes after them into the female bathroom.

    I am disgusted, i really am.

    now the animal-fuckers come out of the woodwork as they want to be added to the LGBT - alphabet people because they feel they are not represented.
    They want to be called "zoophiles".

    so an "z" should be added to the alphabet people.
    And seriously nobody shouts "Unacceptable!"

    I am an fighter, but maybe its best to just sit back and embrace the sweet death of nuclear fire if nuclear weapons start flying.


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    Post  franco Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:55 pm

    I hear you man.
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    Post  kvs Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:24 pm

    The spasm of tranny promotion in the last few years is going to be followed by promotion of pedophilia as a legitimate from of behaviour.
    This is not exaggeration. The BBC go to homo during the Sochi Olympics smear campaign over the Russian law banning gay recruitment
    of minors and spreading of pro-gay propaganda in schools and elsewhere, is a rabid promoter of lowering the age of consent. So the
    BBC is promoting a promoter of pedophilia. None of the pro-pedophilia activists are censured by the western fake stream media.
    They are not "canceled" in social media. The reason that you do not hear too much about this is because it has to be gradual.
    A loud promotion campaign will cause a backlash, slow normalization is the only way.

    We had the gay rights issue since the 1980s at least and that opened the door for every other sexual deviant fringe minority to
    normalization. I do not recall trannies being particularly oppressed. In fact, trannies were normalized by Hollywood since the
    1970s. I personally do not care about sexual orientations as long as they do not involve abuse and degradation. Pedophilia
    in no way is acceptable. But then we have child genital mutilation and use of hormone blockers considered proper medical practice
    in the western Sodom and Gomorrah.

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    Post  kvs Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:28 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Yes yes of course hosting huge black pride marches where British monuments are defaced will raise racial consiousness in society. Which is not a good thing. It will of course lead to more racism not less.

    This guy isn't discovering America here, nor about the SJWs and the whole critical race theory agenda.

    And as for his takes on events around the world - he is a simple retard. Not worth my time

    The average westerner does not realize the promotion of the SJW agenda because they think they live in a free society. So
    this guy's videos are educational.

    But when it comes to Romanians, they have a hangup over Russia and communism. Ceausescu was a Romanian phenomenon and
    not the collective guilt of the USSR and Russia. He was courting NATzO during the 1970s at the same time he was converting
    Romania into a North Korea variant.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:06 am

    kvs wrote:
    But when it comes to Romanians, they have a hangup over Russia and communism.   Ceausescu was a Romanian phenomenon and
    not the collective guilt of the USSR and Russia.   He was courting NATzO during the 1970s at the same time he was converting
    Romania into a North Korea variant.

    There are plenty of decent Romanians as well

    But the anti-Russian ones are not worth anyone's time really.
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:24 am

    flamming_python wrote:There are plenty of decent Romanians as well

    But the anti-Russian ones are not worth anyone's time really.

    Considering that it was Romanian troops that dropped the biggest ball first in Stalingrad and doomed entire project they should really keep their mouths shut

    Also 2/3 of them would never qualify as anything other than Gypsies so I don't really get their pro-Nazi/anti-Russia boner


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    Post  GarryB Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:25 am

    now the animal-fuckers come out of the woodwork as they want to be added to the LGBT - alphabet people because they feel they are not represented.
    They want to be called "zoophiles".

    so an "z" should be added to the alphabet people.
    And seriously nobody shouts "Unacceptable!"

    Yeah, well teaching alternative sexual choices to children to make them acceptable and something that should not just be tolerated but celebrated and embraced seems to me to be leading somewhere.

    It almost seems they want to say if you are a girl and you want to play with toy trucks you have to stop being a girl to do so, and if you are a boy and you prefer your mother to your father and want to learn to cook or are interested in clothes then you can't be a boy you need to be a thing without gender

    Kinda get the feeling that the next step will be that paedophiles are not criminal, they are just ill... misunderstood really... pretty clear it was not just the catholic church that hid its own shame in that regard because perception of the church is more important than childrens lives or safety right?

    But then in the US it seems the rich and famous can go to privately owned islands and break all sorts of rules of decency and ethics, and of course it pretty much likely spreads everywhere there is serious money and power.

    I hear about white priviledge, but it didn't trickle down to everyone... not all whites in New Zealand are rich and powerful, just as not all non whites are poor and on welfare.

    Sounds like something the 1% richest people in each country would want to promote because race conflict distracts us from how these people can be 1% of the population yet own 85% plus of all the money and property... and they still want more... they still want more... they still want more.

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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:49 pm

    "Civilized nations" lol!

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:06 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:"Civilized nations"   lol!

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    The latest bird droppings

    Should really be in the western propaganda thread

    They could at least keep it semi-civilized themselves, and keep to the 'democratic nations' or 'democratic world' line
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:34 am


    I was curious who wrote that but I didn't want to give them a click

    My bet it was that moron Kasparov, sounds like him

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    Post  GarryB Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:48 am

    Normally anything by him includes that it was said by a former world chess champion... as if that means anything... or gives him some special authority.
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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:43 am

    Here is the author https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will
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    Post  kvs Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:19 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Here is the author https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will

    I recall this clown being a real cold warrior back in the 1980s. Still pushing the same BS.

    To clowns like him: Russia and most of the planet does not need your "civilization". It is a total fraud.
    Go back to reading Fukuyama's garbage.


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    Post  ALAMO Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:58 pm

    The hard part of this whole story is the worst one.
    It means that ze Wezt does not recognize any culture and civilization other than their own.
    A usual westerner does not know, that there are several other civilizations on this planet, and actually some of them are much older and stronger fundamented.
    That is really scary because if one does not recognize the other's way of living, it is a straight path to hell.
    Russia does not need western civilization. They own one.
    Either does China, India, nor Indonesia, Myanma, Vietnam...
    Opium Wars are over. Time to recognize that fact.

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