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    Post  Maximmmm Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:27 am

    kvs wrote:

    Another gem of western artistic "progressivism".  

    The clown "artist" yapping about Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle would have had something to say if had devised an experiment how
    to exert a force against the virtual particle sea and thus enable non-reactive propulsion.    That would have been something of value
    and merit.   Sticking a finger in his nose and pulling out an "intellectual" goober is not art or anything other than shysterism.  


    Yeah this one was wild, but not unexpected at this point.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:52 am

    It is literally the emperors new clothes, but the morons are too stupid to see they are the butt of the joke.

    It is literally sarcasm at what Art has become and how easy it is to fool so called experts.

    The irony is that the working people would never spend their hard earned dollars on crap like this, but the rich for whom money seems to come rather too easily will piss away large portions of their income on a gamble that some day it might be worth much more than they pay for it now.

    To reinforce that you look at the history of art and many of the most expensive pieces sound like they sold for peanuts, but the amounts they went for early on were a rather expensive luxury item at the time so not much has really changed except the value is in the eye of the beholder... or as proven by this example... the moron.

    If you can convince people the worn out car body in your front garden is a masterpiece and then sell it for tens of hundreds of times what it cost you when you bought it, then good on you, and how stupid are they?

    It is the equivalent of someone also wearing nothing standing next to the emperor and having a chat about which hemline height is most appropriate after someone in the crowd has already pointed out they are both stark bollock naked.

    This is obviously nothing... who will start the bidding?
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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:56 am

    @Garry: how about paying 100000 "invisible" USD for that. Such a high-tier sculpture requires equally high-tier money for it. Razz Razz Razz

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:37 pm

    I heard an opinion that the West is falling to its own heresies, that it has introduced and created itself. That it has no spiritual basis and cannot defend against new destructive ideas.

    I'd rather say that this is all a product of the economic centre of power shifting to Asia and of various major and petty elites all playing off and competing against one and the other as the gravy train starts to shrink each year.

    But either way the conclusion is the same. The West has expanded too much, the English language has been learned by too many people around the world, it has interest groups and lobbies from too many countries, destabilizing competition from all its aggressive diasporas. And it simply has no means by which to unify everyone and reject all the poisonous narratives. It has no unifying religion, nor is it able to unify everyone in the generation of wealth either (actually these two things develop hand in hand). The result is simply a rupture along every seam.

    I mean what could possibly save the situation now? The Western elites have been trying LGBT-culture, ecology, SJWism and all this stuff as a new unifying ideology, but the result is that it has only accelerated the process. The result has been the development of widespread cynicism, and the SJW/LGBT/ecowarrior/BLM crowd are hardly satisfied with the concessions to them to date either.
    It's hard to see how some new emperor can emerge and simply consolidate everyone under his ideas and leadership. For sure, creepy Biden is not the candidate.

    Is this Rome 1st century BC on the brink of the civil war, or Rome 5th century AD under the assault of the barbarian invasions that would ultimately destroy it? That is the interesting question.
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    Post  kvs Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:14 am

    The millenial generation is the lost generation and is the core of the SJW retard "culture". Maybe their children will somehow escape the brain damage
    of their parents, but usually the children learn from their parents. So the problem is not going to go away fast. At the same time the underlying
    conditions that produced the millenial generation are amplifying. Degradation of education, social media circle-jerk bubble chambers and life too
    easy to force the right lesson to be learnt. So I expect the western idiocracy to develop.

    I do not see the global economy as a zero sum game. That Asia is rising does not explain the dumbing down of western people which started
    in full force during the 1960s. Back then Asia was not an issue. It is the decider class in the west that dug its own grave. It got too smart
    for its britches and decided to turn the people into the sheeple. Easier control, bigger profits. This petty chasing of filthy lucre is the origin
    of the west's decline. Its ideology is economic exploitation.

    There are some interesting effects in this decline process. For example, the western fake stream media that was used to brainwash the masses
    about foreign threats and justify colonialism in all its forms and the "humanitarian" military adventures used to foist it on the world, has turned on
    the western people as we saw under Trump and the fake Biden election with the ludicrously labelled "Capitol Hill insurrection". The western fake
    stream media does not even try to be moderately objective about domestic affairs in the west. It is full bore lying as it was covering Russia or
    something.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:39 am

    Yeah you see stuff like this, and you really have to wonder - just WTF is going on and how long can this go on for?

    https://twitter.com/Undoomed/status/1403353790502391808
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:18 am

    @Garry: how about paying 100000 "invisible" USD for that. Such a high-tier sculpture requires equally high-tier money for it.

    Well to be fair I remember as a kid buying invisible stuff.... I only ever paid in invisible gold coins though...
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:33 am

    Well, that is not something brand new ... dunno
    Back in 1961, Piere Manzoni, an Italian artist, "created" Laughing an art called "Merda d’artista". It is "Artist's shit".
    He canned his own excrements into 90 cans, each numbered and sold them for a price equal to gold - 30 grams it was.
    Not this "art" is worth about 30k euro apiece.
    So we can call it an expensive piece of shit Very Happy
    Not some long time ago, some other "artist" canned elephants shit, and this entire "project" get an EU donation of about E250k.
    So remember folks, shit happens Laughing

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    Post  kvs Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:40 pm

    There was another "masterpiece" decades ago which was just a blank canvas.   At least there was a canvas.   Now we have literally
    nothing with the same pretentious "abstractionism" as before.   You are just mentally inadequate these "artists" proclaim because you
    "fail" to see the "grandeur of their accomplishment".   The sort of "accomplishment" that one of them had "preserved" in cans.
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    Post  kvs Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:53 pm



    The BBC is a woke-tard propaganda orifice.

    My mother, a very long time ago before the current spasm of woke-tardia, stopped a kid from running out onto a busy street.
    The mother of child, who was delinquent in her supervision, showed up and started interrogating her kid what my mother did
    to him.

    The reason people are reluctant to give women CPR is precisely because they have a high chance of being accused of sexual
    assault. Most people do not have dash cams on their foreheads or a camera crew to provide them with "evidence of innocence".
    And even if they did, they would still have to pay lawyers to prove their innocence.

    So those women who do not receive CPR:

    1) have themselves to blame

    2) have their woke-tard pals and their "trust her" zealotry to blame

    3) have the corrupt white night cops and judicial system to blame for always assuming the man (or even woman)
    being accused is guilty.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:25 am

    kvs wrote:The sort of "accomplishment" that one of them had "preserved" in cans.

    Works as long you may find people stupid enough to fuel that ... shit Laughing
    This is the true level of "western values" degradation.
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    Post  Vann7 Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:56 am

    There is a lot of woke trashing here , to the stupid liberals , indeed they are ignorants ,but why you don't trash  the stupid convervative radicals ? like putin that keep people in the darkness for decades
    with his stupid attachment to the past?  

    They are both dangerous , they are both destructive , in their own ways.
    One destroy human development , and the other destroy nations development with stagnation ,
    and never solve any problems , just keep them forever going on for an eternity.

    is the choice between doing wrong or doing nothing  ,which one is bad ?
    both of them is bad , both are extremist , but in different directions. one promote selfishness
    and divisions in society , the other promote race superiority over long term an racism .

    havent you heard putin speaking about the "russian soul"  , he have the same stupid entry level
    ideas that every dictator and right wing ultra nationalist have.    

    i rather prefer a system , that is more mind your own business , and do not interfere with people
    lives , to let people live in any way they want , as long don't harm , or violate the rights of others.

    both are incredibly wrong . far left liberals and far right conser-virals are wrong , one totally
    destroy societies and the personal level ,family level , and promote fascism , a dictatorship and the other totally destroy nations at the collective level , in the administration , create paralysis ,with the "worshipers of the past" ,attachment to the past and create totalitarian regimes .  

    There are two examples , of totally disastrous top representatives of nations ,  notice that i don't call them leaders. because they aren't , they are managers and a disaster for the development of those nations.

    in one side you have...

    Justin Trudeau is an example of a far left ruler of Canada , a constitutional fascist dictator ,
    that is doing horrible things against the development of society and the family and the future of the nation with so many divisions.  i many ways trudeu looks like a puppet , a symbolic position and the
    true rulers of Canada are hidden somewhere else , and they have chosen him , only for public relations , but the real power taking decisions is somewhere else.


    in the other side you have.
    Vladimir Putin , an example of everything that is wrong with the conservatives , a constitutional
    fascist dictators , that rules like authoritarian moron , with total attachment to the past ,that
    have stagnated the nation true development for the past 20 years , that is if you remove all the cosmetics face lift of the country and the expansion of his gas stations empire and development of military.  putin is heading the country into the abyss , into an inevitable nuclear war , by refusing
    to compete with the west and refusing to challenge their world influence and challenge their system.
    and to make it even worse , show politeness ,a smiley face ,when they slap it , and weakness ,whenever the enemy kill your soldiers and shutdown your planes .  No   This is horrible ,because
    this tactics , of weakness as power are not sustainable ,  they will continue increasing the hostilities
    on russia , because they know putin is weak and he will do nothing , and this is why the west is considering building very small nukes , and try them on russian allies first and later on russian soldiers and eventually , and putin will continue being tested , how far they can go ,until he (if ever)
    draw a line on them ,or fight back. this is why putin policies are very dangerous , promotes a nuclear war that can't be avoided , with his weakness.

    so if you have to pick a leader for a nation like russia ,both of them are very bad . from 1 to 10 , they are close to zero.

    Both of them are totalitarian regimes , but trudeu is not stupid he knows what he is doing, he is an opportunistic cold person , that is just on his position ,for his personal gains and nothing else ,while putin flaws is that is incredibly stupid , and very dumb , consequences of his blind attachment to the past .  none of them are good ,they are both horrible ,they are both totalitarian regimes , that repress the rights of minorities and very bad option , for any nation that is at the risk of collapsing ,
    for the fact is facing a major war.

    now he is the major difference , Trudeu don't rule a country facing war , there is no threat to Canada , so he could rule forever in Canada and even increase the economy and people might still consider him a good president , since Canada faces zero challenges of its own existence , it is protected by
    their american neighbors , so Canada is a super safe country ,from any foreign enemies.

    Russia in the other hand is just a sanction away from returning to the early 90s , that caused the collapse of its economy ,and divided the nation, and becoming a third world nation. If for example americans manage to get the right leaders , in europe , in germany and france , they can effectively ,isolate Russia from the world , will stop buying russian energy and disconnect Russia from the world trade . And even russia disconnected from the western banking system and internet while still heavily
    dependent of the western business.  and the only nations that will continue trading with russia
    are china , iran and cuba and venezuela, all those rejected third world nations ,that nobody give a shit ,that don't have any business worth of mentioning will be the only sources of income for russia.

    If putin was facing such scenario , his popularity with decrease to near zero levels , when people
    start to see ,they live  in a very outdated nation , that not even have internet and the only thing they can do is chat between  themselves. and disconnected from the world.

    Both the woke stupid people , and the retards attached to the past people , both are bad , both are wrong , and having them are rulers of any nation is very bad , and if that nation is facing major problems ,challenging heir own existence , even worse.

    Both trudeu and putin are totalitarian fascist rulers , but one of them can be seen as a lot worse ,because wants to rule forever in his country , like a dictator and citizens a big number of its population is already very tired of him.

    Far left liberals are ego worshipers , me me me is the only thing that matters ,everyone else is not important.

    far right conservatives , like putin , are "worshipers of the past" , is a radical cult to the past.
    for them the only thing that matters is to follow the past traditions , to celebrate the past heroes to the statues as super humans , this people are the epitome of idiocy , and no new idea can enter in their heads , because they are in a tunnel vision with the past. they can't solve any problem , they only keep them ,delay conflicts but don't solve them . because they are totally ignorant of the most superior present , and other new ways of thinking and solving things. If you put putin for another 20 years in power , it will be another 20 years of stagnation of the nation development , people that don't change and continue doing the same things over and over and over again.

    what far right conservative putin have been doing for russia in 20 years , doesn't work anymore , it worked early ,because russia was not facing sanctions and was in honeymoon with the west ,but not anymore. and he wrongly believes ,that he can push russia out of the dangers is facing today , by just modernizing even more their military and speaking politely and softly to his enemies. Rolling Eyes
    he is an idiot , a fucking moron ,and is not trolling ,but for real.


    The problem the world face today , are all consequences of two things...  
    the west is too smart , and russia is too dumb.  Trudeu is not stupid , American rulers are not stupid.
    the only stupid is putin.   If you think the west are dumb and stupid , is because you don't understand what are they trying to do..

    The anglo western world , what their elites billionaires , what the west is doing , is nothing more
    and nothing less ,that a war against Russia , in every possible way , they can think.  they trying
    to isolate Russia from the world , in every way possible, and this is why they have invented
    far left ideologies , like feminism , like lgqtb ,black life matters , and so and so.

    Is a cultural war against Russia nothing more and nothing else.

    The west understand very well , Putin mediocre view of the world , and the limitations putin face , (20% of russia population is from an incompatible religion with orthodox russia) ,and understand very well how easy is to fool putin , as long they don't directly attack russia ,they can continue killing their soldiers and pressuring his nation economy to beyond its limits , by creating conflicts in all nations that putin's russia have major interest or are very important for the security of russian borders.

    It means , that the anglo west , is financing  far left movements ,  for the only reason ,than to
    create a world , highly incompatible with putin's far right conservative Russia.

    If Russia was ruled by someone that is totally opposite of putin , a far left totalitarian dictator , like trudeu is , and they predicted that he was going to rule for a very long time , what anyone things , will happen in the west?  Then they will go to the right ,and promote far right conservative values , with a twisted version of the bible , of course , to justify their hostilities.

    So all this far left ideologies , are bad for society but good for totalitarian regimes why ?
    because it follows the principle of divide and conquer. they want to demoralize the middle and poor class as much as possible , because a demoralzed and divided society , is one that will not fight the government and will not because a danger for their rule. So the moral of the story is , if you want to rule forever , in a nation , best way is to keep society dumb and demoralized , with far right or far left ideologies and finance divisions in the nation , that way the attention of society ,will be not the tyranical government , but their internal fights between members of their own family or their neighbors in their city.

    Divide and conquer , is just that , why the west promotes and finance money to the far left ideologies and ultra far right  nationalism too..
    so is not surprising , that the far left culture and nazis are more stronger where ??????

    Right at russian borders , is a cultural wall , what NATO is creating around Russia .
    the west is creating an iron curtain around russia , with nato military bases an
    and ideologies fence too.  and those that support Putin are as fools as him ,to understand what
    is going on.

    FAr left movements and far right , they are the strongest right at russian borders with europe ,is a cultural wall ,they creating , with a military wall too and a political one too. and hoping to create an economic wall too.

    the west governments are too smart , and putin is too dumb , this is the problem the world face.
    is very imbalanced world , there is too much domination in the west , a super empire indeed in the west indeed, with a super stupid government in Russia ,and they use their influence , to destabilize the world , and you see their hand in ukraine , middle east and in armenia , and putin the only thing that idiot can do , is take hits and turn the other cheek.  And they will continue destabilizing russian borders , and he can't do nothing about it , when you are stupid , your enemies can continue hitting you and you will become very vulnerable ,as russia is , for having the wrong government in place.

    to counter the west.
    Russia needs a totally centered, totally neutral , mind of their own business government ,that do not marry with any religion and that instead of promoting stupid distractions like sports , they promote an education revolution , for society to better understand the world they live and how russian enemies are trying to disband russia.  A nation with zero attachment to the past , that is not afraid to reinvent itself in a totally new way ,without ignoring ,common sense , family values  and society unity.  a government that unites , not one that divides people between those with the "russian soul"
    and those that don't have a "russian soul"  (how stupid can a ruler be ) Rolling Eyes

    and more importantly , a new ruler of russia can't ignore their enemies and allow them to continue
    influencing the world in all areas , Russia needs a leader like xi xing ping of china , that challenge
    the western world (directly), and not just any business , but the western most important and influential business around the globe ,to take away their influence  ,and become the new leader ,  and directly  damage their economy instead of totally ignoring the western domination ,with meaningless distractions as putin does with sports. and hockey and banana and rice farming records..  lol1    

    when i see what the west is doing to russia , is like watching a big guy having fun ,taking the candies to a children ,just to see him crying. is just make me angry how stupid is putin and how he allows the west so easily to outplay him. don't see Russia survival to western sanctions as a sign of success..
    this is a sign of weakness , when you have a nation that is in survival mode for 20 long years , then there is something horribly wrong with the government they have in place. No No No No No


    The west understand very very well putin ,  i have listened in their mainstream media their analyst ,
    when putin survived the syrian test ,  the western analyst told ,

    Putin is using weakness as power .

    and this is 100% correct.  This is pretty much the entire strategy of that idiot , weakness as power ,
    to be polite with the west , to avoid at any cost fighting them ,but at the same time , help their allies with weapons and in syria case with airforce.

    Putin in the other hand had no fucking idea of how to counter the west, he knows what they doing in and around russian borders ,but he don't fucking understand how the west can so easily influence ukraine ,georgia ,baltics and other nations  into their orbit .  

    is all about  LEADERSHIP , this is the major failure of russia , it is facing a leadership crisis.
    starting with the moron in chief putin , and when you have a bad ruler at the top ,everyone below him ,will more than likely become as incompetent as their boss. but is also about a lack of vision too.
    Putin's Russia attachment to the past is what is holding them back , big time ,into a real revolution in the nation . the past only purpose ,is to remember mistakes and learn from them , not to worship it.
    and move forward.  There is no reason why russia can't expand beyond is borders and build constitutional alliances with nations close to US borders.  to emulate what they doing . but for doing such things , you need a strong leader first ,with the ability to convince , not an insecure ruler instead.  Russia have not much future to expand , in the place it is located  , bad weather and surrounded by even worse cultures than the russian one , in the south.   an  anti nato alliance with south america or mexico ,could have been the best thing to do , for Russia ,and create a latin america russo federation or something like that.. this will worry a lot the anglo west ,and could truly challenge them. and take advantage now of this vaccines diplomacy , if putin don't take advantage ,then will not surprise me , he is completely an ignorant and don't have the iq to do anything that could truly surprise the west ,at the political level and nation development level.


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    The world problems ,the decadence of the liberal anglo west AND decadence of ultra conservative Russia , that now population is leaving in the million per year, is all consequence of the west having too much leadership that is being used in a negative way for destructive things , to
    destroy any competition and to make things worse , those that oppose it ,are too weak , with lack of leadership to influence the world back to a more constructive future.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:05 pm

    Imho, the world is headed towards a one world government. as the first Bush said: "new world order", and anyone who isn't on board is attacked, be it Christians, Conservatives, who are usually Christians, Conservatives of any religion, for example - Jews, and Vladimir Putin, & Donald Trump.

    The whole European Union is not "my country first", only Great Britain who left the E.U.

    Right or wrong, imho, Vladimir Putin, and D. Trump was both their countries first.

    & that isn't going to wash with the globalists.

    all of the homosexual, trans, trans men in women sports, etc.  agendas, is an attack against God-established order, marriage, family, and biology, and science: male, female, two genders, edited to add, which is a stealth attack against Christianity - all forms that are conservative. , and Jewish religion.
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    Post  kvs Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:55 pm

    One world government is physically indistinguishable from a world colonial order. It is not the egalitarian utopia that its pushers claim.
    It will have privileged owners who may not be resident in the original powerful states. So most of the USA and EU can end up colonies
    like any 3rd world country. The filthy rich western elites have been trying to go transnational for decades. As the experience with
    Trump has shown, the globalist elites running the USA are prepared to throw Americans under the bus. The deciders in the EU are
    also brazenly screwing over the citizenry.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:46 am

    It is really funny that the west mistakes Putins self control and sensible countermeasures to be a sign of weakness.

    A revised and reformed economy that is often compared to some tiny country but by now they make most of their own stuff so in actual fact they are in a far better position than even the wealthiest countries they compare them with.

    A completely reformed and rebuild military that is already challenging the west and coming out looking good...

    All the while they think Putin and Russia is weak... till they show they are not... which is only when they have to of course... they are not the showy flamboyant west who has a crowd to entertain and impress.

    The one world order they want is already operating and is firmly based in the west, but there is a panic because the leader of the group... the US... only survives these days by printing more money now than it has printed in all the rest of its existence going backwards... that is not a good sign.

    The US has never been more divided... can they fix it?

    Well to be honest, the US has not been a good enough leader and world police for the rest of the world to care either way... world police my arse... they have been a lynch mob making sure the income streams of the top 1% in their country remain secure, so oil and minerals and everything else can be ignored...

    The world is not going to miss that.

    The point is that the US had the military power to force most smaller countries into line, so that is ending pretty soon as countries of the world can now access systems the US can't go up against and be assured of a win any more.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:53 am

    All the things you are addressing, are proof of deviated Anglosaxon narrative, that has nothing to do with the real world.

    Sometimes, looking at a map is very refreshing.

    What should give us an idea about the position & stand of modern Russia after 20 years of Putin, is its contacts with the other world.

    First, we have China and India. Those two combine 1/3 of the population on a planet.
    China is a Russian ally. The level of cooperation is impressive, and will only increase.
    Some consider India as running into US hands but don't be naive. They are still a partner and friendly to Russia, and that won't change fast, if ever.
    They have 50+ years of friendly relations, common business.
    Even if some Indian decision-makers would make a U turn, it would not affect the fact that India would have to cooperate with Russia for decades.
    Then you have Vietnam, openly friendly.
    Myanmar as well.
    Bangladesh, where Rosatom builds an NPP - how you would consider that ;-) ?
    Pakistan? 10 years ago it used to be the main asset of Murican policy towards the region. Now, Pak special forces train with Russian colleagues, and Russia is going to start building a pipeline from Karachi to Lahore. Want to bet, who is to pump the gas into it, once Russians will finish construction? Laughing
    Malaysia? Its government openly criticizes farce with MH17 around European courts, claiming that they do not consider any Russian involvement and fault. And calling the European judicial system untrusted.
    Indonesia? A long-time consumer of Russian goods&weapony. Forced to step back lately, but that will ricochet.
    Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam are long-time partners to Russia, openly friendly.
    South Korea? A long-time partner. Delivers tons of modern electronics. Its own KM-SAM is made with Russians and is functionally a localized S-350. Helping Russians to create & upgrade the shipbuilding sector.
    Even Philipines, a time being Muricas vassal state, improved its relations towards Russia with Duarte in power.
    It is already more than half of the world population, and hell, we have just reached the Pacific!
    Wanna go west?
    Africa is turning towards China and Russia, which is already obvious.
    It is not only the CAR, famous only now. The last economic summit targeted Africa brought to Moscow delegations of all African states. ALL OF THEM, imagine? Modern Russia has written off all outstanding debts of ex-African clients, changing those to contracts. Take a blink at demography for short. Who is getting into power now in Africa? Well, the guys who studied at the Soviet Union. They are in their late 50s now, accumulating all the experience and political power. Some of them speak fluent Russian. Would that help, how do you consider it? Laughing
    Even in America, where we are witnessing constant meddling by the US, coups arranged, people killed for political reasons by US-sponsored or recruited goons, there are countries openly friendly towards Russia.
    Hell, Mexico's foreign affairs secretary has just been to Moscow in April, stating for outstanding relations and historical ties. Lavrov has been to Mexico a year ago only!
    Have you noticed, that in several cases, Russians have good relations with both sides of some life-long lasting conflicts? Like Iran and Israel. Or Armenia and Azerbaijan. Pakistan and India. China and Vietnam. South and North Korea. Ethiopia and Eritrea ...
    That is a real picture of Russian diplomatic status and its general ability to friendly interaction with other states after 20+ years of Putin's rule.
    And this is a real reason behind Anglosaxon's histeria.

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    Post  Atmosphere Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:33 pm

    There are only two genders. By the way.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:10 pm

    You nazi Laughing Wink
    The last time I have checked, they counted for 76.
    But the overall number is proof of western values progress itself, so don't bother to define some 10-20 more Laughing
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    Post  kvs Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:38 am



    The US fake stream media is leading a hysterical campaign to promote LGBTZYZ while spreading libel against anyone who they
    think needs to be burned at the state of the new western deviant religion.

    Recall that the MSM was key in all the genocides over the last 100+ years. It was used to drum up hate hysteria. The
    above video is discussing the same process. Ludicrous smear in the name of "goodness". And just because people are
    not being gassed today does not mean that the hysteria is not important. Wait and see.

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    Post  thegopnik Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:42 am

    Blacks are writing more of my victimhood mentality stories of how whites have molested them.

    Turns out that places like 4chan /pol/ are finding it funny to write homoerotic scenes that buck breaking became a meme.



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    Decline of the western society #2 - Page 7 Lulz_10

    Hate to ask are those Russian helicopters?
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:10 am

    Chinese Very Happy

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:26 pm

    There are a lot of "declines of Western society" in the USA, seen by "regular" persons.

    The change really started in the 1980's. Prior to that, there was no drive-by shootings, and gays /homosexuals was in the closet.

    We had high gas prices at times, and gas shortages at times, depending on the world flow of oil, but we never had high prices at the grocery stores. I can remember gasoline being 99 cents a gallon, in the not to distant past. & hamburger at 50 cents a pound. & there was never a shortage of goods in stores, which there definitely is now.

    Walmart destroyed the Mom and Pop, and small-chain grocerey stores. In my county there is none. In two neighboring counties, there is one each, but they never allowed walmart to build in their county. In another neighboring county there is no Mom and Pop grocery store. It closed.

    Violence is probably the biggest change, and hatred of, and attack on police. That's why regular folks have a license to carry. To protect themselves.

    Rioting, looting...

    Loss of personal freedoms, and the Federal government attacking any States' rights.

    The massive amount of illegals coming across our Southern border.

    Instability.

    Loss of peace. chaos. crime. The Cartels are operating inside the USA.

    The government being involved in everything, issues that has nothing to do with governing.

    But has everything to do with control.

    One of my favorite books is "Alas Babylon" by Pat Frank, and that's what I think about America today: "Alas Babylon!"

    Revelation 18:10 "Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come. "

    I love my Country. There are a lot of good persons in the USA, of all ethnicity, but the Government, not so much.

    I especially love Texas more. I thank God we have a Conservative government in Texas.

    I wonder if we will have a second civil war before it's all over, not about race relations, but about State's rights. & Government attempting to control everything.
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    Post  kvs Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:09 pm

    I spent a couple of years in the USA and found the people there to be reasonable just like in Canada. Where I lived things were good
    and one can find seedy locations in Canada so there is nothing that can be extrapolated from this. So an American loving America
    is perfectly fine and rational. The world's problems are generated at the country level by top level deciders and not by the grass roots.
    Even though people think that they exert democratic control, no such thing is true in reality. I simply cannot see Americans en masse
    pushing for any of the ridiculous foreign meddling by the USA. Instead, this meddling is foisted on them as necessary to defend America
    and to spread freedom and human rights. Voting for the D. or R. Party will not flip US foreign policy around.

    Trump and the domestic focus (MAGA) faction in the US is the country's best choice but the rotten deep state that has established
    itself over the decades is not letting Americans choose the right path. It is taking them for a ride to oblivion.

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    Post  Atmosphere Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:37 pm

    ALAMO wrote:You nazi Laughing Wink
    The last time I have checked, they counted for 76.
    But the overall number is proof of western values progress itself, so don't bother to define some 10-20 more Laughing

    That is literally their reasoning. "Either you think that trans women are real women or you're a nazi"
    What even the relationship.

    And then it would be those same idiots banging their heads over free expression

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