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    Su-57 Stealth Fighter: News #7

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    Post  LMFS Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:00 am

    Russia is testing a multimedia helmet for pilots of Su-57 fighters

    Russian developers continue the process of preparing multimedia helmets for use by pilots of the Russian Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation. We are talking about augmented reality helmets, which are developed primarily for pilots of the 5th generation Su-57 fighters.


    Information Agency TASS with reference to the press service of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), reports on the passing of tests of the multimedia helmet of the Su-57 pilot developed by Russian specialists. It is noted that a promising helmet will help the pilot not only control a combat vehicle, but also capture a target for subsequent attack on it with those in the arsenal. weapons.

    The message says that a helmet-mounted target designation and indication system has been created, which is integrated into the Su-57 pilot's helmet. The indication is carried out on the glass of the visor of the protective helmet of a whole range of data, including flight information, the image of the space outside the cockpit of the fighter, formed by cameras and thermal imagers.

    Such a helmet-mounted system will allow the pilots of the Russian Aerospace Forces to carry out operations in difficult meteorological conditions, in the dark, to perform complex maneuvers.

    https://en.topwar.ru/181204-v-rossii-prohodjat-ispytanija-multimedijnogo-shlema-dlja-pilotov-istrebitelej-su-57.html

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    Post  GarryB Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:41 pm

    Such helmets are also being developed for helicopter pilots and also armoured vehicle crew.

    Even now you can get VR helmets for drone pilots that enable them to fly their drones like they are actually flying them.
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    Post  LMFS Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:51 pm

    The nice thing about the news IMHO is that Russia has developed first what works and then they will, step by step, implement improvements by including more and more information in the helmet, until the cockpit will be almost superfluous or a mere backup. Essentially, what a decent program manager would recommend, and completely opposite to the US approach by which first HUD is discarded and then the whole program is held hostage to helmet glitches and unreliability. I will never understand that some people don't see that this is either obvious negligence or something worse...

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    Post  Backman Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:40 pm

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    Post  thegopnik Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:25 pm

    Su-57 is a 6th gen aircraft. https://qr.ae/pG8P14 change my mind. Cool

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    Post  dino00 Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:46 pm

    thegopnik wrote:Su-57 is a 6th gen aircraft. https://qr.ae/pG8P14 change my mind. Cool

    Very interesting reading

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    Post  GarryB Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:06 pm

    The nice thing about the news IMHO is that Russia has developed first what works and then they will, step by step, implement improvements by including more and more information in the helmet, until the cockpit will be almost superfluous or a mere backup. Essentially, what a decent program manager would recommend, and completely opposite to the US approach by which first HUD is discarded and then the whole program is held hostage to helmet glitches and unreliability. I will never understand that some people don't see that this is either obvious negligence or something worse...

    They have the same method to foreign policy... don't like the decision an anti Russian Ukrainian president makes... overthrow him and break the country and see what happens. Don't like Assad or Gaddafi or Saddam... get some terrorists to try to murder them and break their countries and see how it turns out.

    Their luck so far has been awful if you look at it critically, but they keep doing the same thing over and over and over.
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    Post  Gomig-21 Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:12 am

    Man' I don't which is hotter or sexyrirer than these two!  Gimme two of each.




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    Post  LMFS Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:58 am

    GarryB wrote:Their luck so far has been awful if you look at it critically, but they keep doing the same thing over and over and over.

    I think they very much succeed in destroying and looting countries, their effectiveness is like, you know, if they were not fully sincere about their humanitarian concerns, or about manufacturing cheap effective armament for that matter clown
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    Post  GarryB Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:55 pm

    Yes, it is sad that they are so evil and unfeeling as to believe all that death and destruction for a chance to make things better for them is an OK thing to do, but I do find heart in the fact that they are so censored stupid... and assume everyone else is too.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Apr 04, 2021 1:26 am

    Gomig-21 wrote:

    Why didn't I realise that (F-)22 plus (F-)35 = (Su-)57?

    Nicely trolled thumbsup

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    Post  LMFS Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:51 am

    What a gorgeous plane:
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    I am watching modern planes at take off and the PAK-FA is the only one among those with conventional wing that does it without even deploying flaps, I have to assume its aero is simply way ahead of the competition.

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    Post  Backman Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:24 pm

    Sukhoi KB received a patent for the Su-57 at the China Patent Office (SIPO) This means that it will not be possible in China to create a plane similar to the Su-57 without the patent holder's permission. Very Happy

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    Post  lancelot Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:25 am

    Backman wrote:Sukhoi KB received a patent for the Su-57 at the China Patent Office (SIPO) This means that it will not be possible in China to create a plane similar to the Su-57 without the patent holder's permission.

    In the US there are limitations on patents. The US Military can ignore any patents they want.
    I doubt the same isn't true in China.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:15 pm

    China ~= US
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    Post  LMFS Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:18 pm

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    Is it normal that I am starting to feel sorry for the USAF? Smile

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    Post  Atmosphere Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:34 pm

    This is the final blow towards the "round IRST bad" rethoric
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    Post  bren_tann Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:35 pm

    Is the second serial production plane expected later this year?
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    Post  bren_tann Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:35 pm

    Atmosphere wrote:This is the final blow towards the "round IRST bad" rethoric
    Su-57 Stealth Fighter: News #7 - Page 17 Eygp_q10
    Su-57 Stealth Fighter: News #7 - Page 17 Eygqwn10

    AFAIK KF-X doesn't have internal weapons bays, so its RCS reduction is minimal.
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    Post  thegopnik Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:42 pm

    The so called not stealth enough for my needs experts of india even brought it up to their 5th gen. Laughing

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    Post  thegopnik Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:45 pm

    bren_tann wrote:
    Atmosphere wrote:This is the final blow towards the "round IRST bad" rethoric
    Su-57 Stealth Fighter: News #7 - Page 17 Eygp_q10
    Su-57 Stealth Fighter: News #7 - Page 17 Eygqwn10

    AFAIK KF-X doesn't have internal weapons bays, so its RCS reduction is minimal.

    According to the secretprojects.uk thread it does have internal weapons bays, my only annoyance is the same dickheads that bashed the Su-57 and praised the F-35 are already giving it RCS values.
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    Post  LMFS Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:13 pm

    bren_tann wrote:Is the second serial production plane expected later this year?

    The 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th
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    Post  UZB-76 Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:20 pm

    LMFS wrote:

    Is it normal that I am starting to feel sorry for the USAF? Smile
    Is this the serial production aircraft?
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    Post  TMA1 Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:28 pm

    It's the same with people who think diverterless intakes should be put on everything. One of the first responses I've seen elsewhere was concern that the kfx doesn't have dsi. Ridiculous.
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    Post  Backman Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:34 pm

    bren_tann wrote:
    Atmosphere wrote:This is the final blow towards the "round IRST bad" rethoric
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    [url=https://servimg.com/view/20305403/6][img]https://i.servimg.com/u/f63/20/30/54/03]

    AFAIK KF-X doesn't have internal weapons bays, so its RCS reduction is minimal.

    It has them. They just aren't operational due to regulations with the GE engines. They will make them work later apparently

    It is a planform aligned aircraft. It's shape is generated for stealth. This is why it doesn't look like a 4th gen. A little detail here or there isn't going to make it have the RCS of a 4th gen aircraft.

    To say RCS reduction is minimal just isn't right


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