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    Post  bitcointrader70 Fri May 14, 2021 8:30 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Nikky Haley is a deluded western crusader.

    She was being surprisingly honest and that is the view of the western elite... we won the cold war and so Russia has to do what we say like Japan and Germany does... though Germany is not buying our expensive gas too, so maybe there is a real problem.

    Russia already has plenty of internal diversity, but the poison coming from the west is the empire of the minority... only a tiny minority of the population are gender deviants, but all must adopt new rules in terms of the words they use to avoid offending these minorities.

    Black people are being shot in the US by police who don't suffer any repercussions, but calling a man in a dress a man will cost you your job.

    I don't want to offend anyone, but most of the time it is other people getting offended for the minority group rather than an actual person who might be offended being offended... I am not too worried about offending such people because they are offended anyway... they will find something.

    Again you keep repeating western lies whenever it suits you. The globalist regime in the US is waging war against the white conservative population in the US just as much as it’s waging a war against Russia.

    Black people are not indiscriminately shot by police on the US. In fact more white than blacks are killed by police every year 99% of the time a black person is shot or beaten or tased by police they are either resisting arrest or in the process of committing a violent crime. Western globalist media have brainwashed you by over emphasising the 1% of the time cops really mess up.

    Black people commit majority of violent crimes in this country. Young black men teenage years to mid 30s account for almost half the violent crime in America. That’s about 5-6% of the population responsible for half the crime. If you take away the gun violence committed by black people in the ghetto inner cities America is the safest gun ownership nation on the planet.

    You have been brainwashed by liberal lies in your cucked feminist left wing New Zealand nation. You should be ashamed to spout this racist globalist bullshit on a pro Russia nationalist forum that you moderate.

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    Post  par far Fri May 14, 2021 7:39 pm

    bitcointrader70 wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    Nikky Haley is a deluded western crusader.

    She was being surprisingly honest and that is the view of the western elite... we won the cold war and so Russia has to do what we say like Japan and Germany does... though Germany is not buying our expensive gas too, so maybe there is a real problem.

    Russia already has plenty of internal diversity, but the poison coming from the west is the empire of the minority... only a tiny minority of the population are gender deviants, but all must adopt new rules in terms of the words they use to avoid offending these minorities.

    Black people are being shot in the US by police who don't suffer any repercussions, but calling a man in a dress a man will cost you your job.

    I don't want to offend anyone, but most of the time it is other people getting offended for the minority group rather than an actual person who might be offended being offended... I am not too worried about offending such people because they are offended anyway... they will find something.

    Again you keep repeating western lies whenever it suits you. The globalist regime in the US is waging war against the white conservative population in the US just as much as it’s waging a war against Russia.

    Black people are not indiscriminately shot by police on the US. In fact more white than blacks are killed by police every year 99% of the time a black person is shot or beaten or tased by police they are either resisting arrest or in the process of committing a violent crime. Western globalist media have brainwashed you by over emphasising the 1% of the time cops really mess up.

    Black people commit majority of violent crimes in this country. Young black men teenage years to mid 30s account for almost half the violent crime in America. That’s about 5-6% of the population responsible for half the crime. If you take away the gun violence committed by black people in the ghetto inner cities America is the safest gun ownership nation on the planet.

    You have been brainwashed by liberal lies in your cucked feminist left wing New Zealand nation. You should be ashamed to spout this racist globalist bullshit on a pro Russia nationalist forum that you moderate.


    I would say that much of this is true.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri May 14, 2021 7:44 pm

    bitcointrader70 wrote:
    Black people are not indiscriminately shot by police on the US. In fact more white than blacks are killed by police every year 99% of the time a black person is shot or beaten or tased by police they are either resisting arrest or in the process of committing a violent crime. Western globalist media have brainwashed you by over emphasising the 1% of the time cops really mess up.

    Black people commit majority of violent crimes in this country. Young black men teenage years to mid 30s account for almost half the violent crime in America. That’s about 5-6% of the population responsible for half the crime. If you take away the gun violence committed by black people in the ghetto inner cities America is the safest gun ownership nation on the planet.
    Off topic but pretty much spot on.

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    Post  GarryB Sat May 15, 2021 3:30 am

    Nikky Haley is a deluded western crusader.

    I don't remember a single voice from any western country oppose what she said... in fact if you look at the video... most of them nod.


    Niky Haley didn't create that speech... she is just the messenger...


    Black people are not indiscriminately shot by police on the US.

    Yeah, and little boys are not molested by catholic priests.

    The fact is that black people are shot by police and most of the time the police officer who shot them don't even get a pay cut...

    The Police protect their own just like the Catholic priests protect their own too... once they have done too much damage in one place they move them to new pastures... and in doing so the Catholic Church condones and enables the kiddy fiddlers, just as the police condone the executioners in their ranks.

    Western globalist media have brainwashed you by over emphasising the 1% of the time cops really mess up.

    So the white media are making me racist?

    You should be ashamed to spout this racist globalist bullshit on a pro Russia nationalist forum that you moderate.

    This forum is not Russia nationalist, it is about bypassing the western media bullshit about Russia to a western english speaking audience.

    Race has nothing to do with this sites goals and objectives.

    Lots of western white people see Russia as being white and a last holdout of conservative christian ideals... a place to run to when the west collapses in on itself...

    But the reality will be different... why would Russia welcome westerners in... people from countries who have made life hard for the last 2-3 centuries for them because they claimed they were half asian and could not be trusted. Now they want it to be some sort of utopia for white people to run away from all the damage they have done to most countries on this planet... don't be too shocked if the answer is Nyet.

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    Post  kvs Sat May 15, 2021 4:49 am

    There is a strong sentiment in Russia not to enable flooding by westerners who will bring their own values and dilute what is Russia.
    Funny, that sounds like the sentiment in the west to prevent flooding by "3rd world" people. But in the case of Russia it not based
    on the same considerations, but on the real issue with western sycophancy in Russia and the pervasive western values.

    I think that westerners will always, on average, treat Russians as second class humans. Russia does not need this sort of
    "contribution".



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    Post  bitcointrader70 Sat May 15, 2021 5:15 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Nikky Haley is a deluded western crusader.

    I don't remember a single voice from any western country oppose what she said... in fact if you look at the video... most of them nod.


    Niky Haley didn't create that speech... she is just the messenger...


    Black people are not indiscriminately shot by police on the US.

    Yeah, and little boys are not molested by catholic priests.

    The fact is that black people are shot by police and most of the time the police officer who shot them don't even get a pay cut...

    The Police protect their own just like the Catholic priests protect their own too... once they have done too much damage in one place they move them to new pastures... and in doing so the Catholic Church condones and enables the kiddy fiddlers, just as the police condone the executioners in their ranks.

    Western globalist media have brainwashed you by over emphasising the 1% of the time cops really mess up.

    So the white media are making me racist?

    You should be ashamed to spout this racist globalist bullshit on a pro Russia nationalist forum that you moderate.

    This forum is not Russia nationalist, it is about bypassing the western media bullshit about Russia to a western english speaking audience.

    Race has nothing to do with this sites goals and objectives.

    Lots of western white people see Russia as being white and a last holdout of conservative christian ideals... a place to run to when the west collapses in on itself...

    But the reality will be different... why would Russia welcome westerners in... people from countries who have made life hard for the last 2-3 centuries for them because they claimed they were half asian and could not be trusted. Now they want it to be some sort of utopia for white people to run away from all the damage they have done to most countries on this planet... don't be too shocked if the answer is Nyet.

    Are you some kind of mental imbecile? I just told you it’s literally 1% of police cases and black are far more violent and crime prone. I live in a 70% black city I see it every day.

    And Russia would be literally retarded to not accept white refugees from the US while it’s struggling with a population crisis.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sat May 15, 2021 5:29 am

    The fact is much fewer black people are killed by police in the US than white people, MUCH MUCH LESS, it is whites who die far more to police then any other race and the numbers show that.

    That is nothing but a myth that has been repeated by CNN, MSNBC, and others.

    It's beyond idiotic and pathetic you are trying to carry on that straight-up lie Garry.
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    Post  elconquistador Sat May 15, 2021 5:47 am

    bitcointrader70 wrote:

    GarryB is a good guy but he is as stubborn as a donkey

    In fact he usually gets emotionally invested in arguments, defending indefensible positions in the light of overwhelming evidence pointing at the opposite.

    You said it yourself, just look at the evidence. JUST Look AT IT. This is a completely artificial narrative created by the usual race hustlers that are keen on exploiting any division within whatever society

    I would suggest not getting into arguments with him. Just state your (well substantiated) position and leave it at that. Because it's like talking to a brick wall. The man just never gives up and will just completely ignore everything you say to repeat his previously stated position

    Very draining indeed.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat May 15, 2021 5:57 am


    What does Black stuff from USA have to do with Ukrainian conflict?

    Also, if all y'all Western folks are so upset over your local problems why aren't you speaking up and doing something about it back home instead of complaining about it on some God forsaken Russian military forum? And doing it on wrong tread on top...

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    Post  GarryB Sat May 15, 2021 1:42 pm

    Are you some kind of mental imbecile? I just told you it’s literally 1% of police cases and black are far more violent and crime prone.

    I read what you posted. A mental imbecile would immediately take it as true, but personally I prefer facts over opinion from someone on the internet whose stats seem to be pulled from the ass.

    Most Americas in jail are not white, police therefore probably have a lot of interaction with black people... not suggesting they shoot on sight, or every black person gets shot by police... not even saying the police doing the shooting are white... seems like they do a lot of shooting and very little warning.

    The videos I see there is no respect in either direction.

    And Russia would be literally retarded to not accept white refugees from the US while it’s struggling with a population crisis.

    Russia has plenty of land and plenty of time, why accept any refugees from the west?

    They would likely be economic refugees who work for less... blah blah blah...

    The fact is much fewer black people are killed by police in the US than white people, MUCH MUCH LESS, it is whites who die far more to police then any other race and the numbers show that.

    That is nothing but a myth that has been repeated by CNN, MSNBC, and others.

    OK, so lets say you are right... what are you basing your numbers on... I mean apart from pulling them fresh from your ass.

    If CNN can't be trusted and MSNBC can't be trusted, where are you getting your facts and figures from?

    It's beyond idiotic and pathetic you are trying to carry on that straight-up lie Garry.

    The entire culture of the US is changing... there is some colour coming to Americas cheeks... what was true before might not be true in the future...


    What does Black stuff from USA have to do with Ukrainian conflict?

    Apart from the fact that America created this situation not much so I will be shifting some posts soon.

    Also, if all y'all Western folks are so upset over your local problems why aren't you speaking up and doing something about it back home instead of complaining about it on some God forsaken Russian military forum? And doing it on wrong tread on top...

    It is nice to see so many members so keen to fix Russia by installing Navalny and kicking out that terrible Putin guy are so interested in helping Russia and fixing Russian problems that they are prepared to ignore problems at home... in fact they want us to ignore them... their Halo does not glow as much when we notice their problems are worse than Russias problems...
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    Post  RTN Tue May 25, 2021 3:29 pm

    Isos wrote:Russian systems can target mortars/shells/rockets for a longtime now.

    In the west that was impossible untill iron dome.

    All togather it's a good system that answers a specifical need.

    A single tor would be easier to overwhelm but it has other advantages like mobility and precision or lauch wheb moving.

    Those are systems not some sort of magical stuff with superpower.
    NATO will target Russia with Rocket artillery system, especially in Europe because their mobility allows the alliance to deploy a long-range precision capability across the theater and prosecute vital targets such as Russia’s area-denial equipment, through a process known as a rapid infiltration. This mission revolves around a C-130 or larger aircraft — preferably one capable of landing on an austere runway — transporting the artillery launchers that subsequently execute long-range precision missions within 10 to 15 minutes of the aircraft landing. After completing the fire missions, the crew can subsequently drive the launchers to follow-on operations or load back on the aircraft to reposition out of the potentially hostile territory.

    Already we have demonstrated this capability to NATO in the November 2020 training exercise Rapid Falcon, when two launchers rapidly deployed via air from Germany to Romania to provide precision fires near the Black Sea. This precedent may have already begun with the 2021 Defender Europe Exercise when the 41st Field Artillery Brigade was called on to provide rocket-artillery fire in Estonia on May 5, 2021, as the forcible-entry prerequisite.

    This is the reason why Romania has bought the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) and Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (GMLRS) and Poland has decided to buy 20 HIMARS artillery rocket systems
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    Post  Isos Tue May 25, 2021 4:04 pm

    NATO lacks the numbers.

    Those 20 polish systems would be destroyed in their storage area before they can use them.

    Now it's even worse for NATO since they have to face russian drones which they can't intercept with their shitty AD systems. We saw how an obsolate AD can't protect from them.

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    Post  RTN Tue May 25, 2021 5:22 pm

    Isos wrote:NATO lacks the numbers.
    You gotta be kidding me. There are 10 active High Mobility Artillery Rocket System battalions and a thousand plus M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System here in the U.S itself.

    Isos wrote:Now it's even worse for NATO since they have to face russian drones which they can't intercept with their shitty AD systems. We saw how an obsolate AD can't protect from them.
    What's so special about Russian drones. Nothing hi tech. Russia too will have to face hundreds of NATO drones of all types.
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    Post  Isos Wed May 26, 2021 1:36 am

    RTN wrote:
    Isos wrote:NATO lacks the numbers.
    You gotta be kidding me. There are 10 active High Mobility Artillery Rocket System battalions and a thousand plus M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System here in the U.S itself.

    Isos wrote:Now it's even worse for NATO since they have to face russian drones which they can't intercept with their shitty AD systems. We saw how an obsolate AD can't protect from them.
    What's so special about Russian drones. Nothing hi tech.  Russia too will have to face hundreds of NATO drones of all types.

    Yeah they are in the US far away. Russia won't wait for their shipment.

    Russian drones have nothing more than israeli or US drones. But western AD are useless against them. Russian AD will down plenty of western drones on the other hand.

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed May 26, 2021 3:10 am

    RTN wrote:
    Isos wrote:NATO lacks the numbers.
    You gotta be kidding me. There are 10 active High Mobility Artillery Rocket System battalions and a thousand plus M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System here in the U.S itself....

    Dude, are you seriously suggesting to play rocket artillery numbers game against Russia right next door to Russia?

    And with stuff that is on other side of the planet and whose delivery would be spotted weeks in advance?

    And don't even get me started on C-130 part, even B-2 would be cutting it close (or not at all)


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    Post  RTN Wed May 26, 2021 9:25 am

    Isos wrote:Yeah they are in the US far away. Russia won't wait for their shipment.
    We have M1A2 tanks in Estonia bordering Russia. You realize that don't you.

    PapaDragon wrote:Dude, are you seriously suggesting to play rocket artillery numbers game against Russia right next door to Russia?
     You heard me. Russia will have to move heaven and earth to intercept US rocket artillery.

    PapaDragon wrote:And with stuff that is on other side of the planet and whose delivery would be spotted weeks in advance?
    You might want to take a look at what all we have shipped to the Baltic states that border Russia. This includes MBT like M1A2.
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    Post  flamming_python Wed May 26, 2021 10:01 am

    The Baltic states are an especially crappy place to invade Russia from

    Word to the wise
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    Post  Sujoy Wed May 26, 2021 2:24 pm

    Isos wrote:Russian drones have nothing more than israeli or US drones. But western AD are useless against them. Russian AD will down plenty of western drones on the other hand.
    In response to China's deployment of long range rocket artillery against India, the India armed forces are also contemplating the use of Drones to counter these Chinese rocket artillery. But for drones range will become an issue. Chinese rockets like PCL-191 have a range in excess of 350 kms.

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    Post  miketheterrible Wed May 26, 2021 2:29 pm

    Sujoy wrote:
    Isos wrote:Russian drones have nothing more than israeli or US drones. But western AD are useless against them. Russian AD will down plenty of western drones on the other hand.
    In response to China's deployment of long range rocket artillery against India, the India armed forces are also contemplating the use of Drones to counter these Chinese rocket artillery. But for drones range will become an issue. Chinese rockets like PCL-191 have a range in excess of 350 kms.


    Yeah, but that is a mini BM. They can fit 2 at best on one launcher and yet overall its potential is still limited (warhead). I think India could easily retaliate with similar missiles. Maybe look for cheaper cruise missiles.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed May 26, 2021 5:09 pm

    There are only a couple thousand troops in the Baltics.

    There isn't that many Abrams ether maybe an armored battalion at best.

    If Russia attacked the Baltics they would overwhelm the small amount of US forces there easily.

    Simply put the US forces there aren't meant to fight Russian forces but deter them from an attack us attacking those forces would mean war.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed May 26, 2021 5:14 pm

    Isos wrote:
    RTN wrote:
    Isos wrote:NATO lacks the numbers.
    You gotta be kidding me. There are 10 active High Mobility Artillery Rocket System battalions and a thousand plus M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System here in the U.S itself.

    Isos wrote:Now it's even worse for NATO since they have to face russian drones which they can't intercept with their shitty AD systems. We saw how an obsolate AD can't protect from them.
    What's so special about Russian drones. Nothing hi tech.  Russia too will have to face hundreds of NATO drones of all types.

    Yeah they are in the US far away. Russia won't wait for their shipment.

    Russian drones have nothing more than israeli or US drones. But western AD are useless against them. Russian AD will down plenty of western drones on the other hand.

    This is a dumb remark, Russia has a lot fewer drones and inferior to the US in drones with what they currently have in service, not development.

    Russia is behind us in drone tech, they have only just started it. We have been doing it for decades at this point.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca Wed May 26, 2021 5:54 pm

    An American dude thinks about invading Russia? Lol
    Buddy an army that afraid to get casualties can't invade anything.

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    Post  par far Wed May 26, 2021 6:57 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:There are only a couple thousand troops in the Baltics.

    There isn't that many Abrams ether maybe an armored battalion at best.

    If Russia attacked the Baltics they would overwhelm the small amount of US forces there easily.

    Simply put the US forces there aren't meant to fight Russian forces but deter them from an attack us attacking those forces would mean war.




    Russia is not stupid like the US/NATO/West, their is nothing for Russia in the Baltics, the EU or anywhere. The US and the EU are doing a very good job of destroying themselves, why would Russia inference?

    If Russia was attacked(Russia has no incentive to attack anyone), the country that the attack was coming from and the country that attacked would cease to exist(Russia does not start wars, Russia just ends them.)


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    Post  par far Wed May 26, 2021 6:59 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    RTN wrote:
    Isos wrote:NATO lacks the numbers.
    You gotta be kidding me. There are 10 active High Mobility Artillery Rocket System battalions and a thousand plus M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System here in the U.S itself.

    Isos wrote:Now it's even worse for NATO since they have to face russian drones which they can't intercept with their shitty AD systems. We saw how an obsolate AD can't protect from them.
    What's so special about Russian drones. Nothing hi tech.  Russia too will have to face hundreds of NATO drones of all types.

    Yeah they are in the US far away. Russia won't wait for their shipment.

    Russian drones have nothing more than israeli or US drones. But western AD are useless against them. Russian AD will down plenty of western drones on the other hand.

    This is a dumb remark, Russia has a lot fewer drones and inferior to the US in drones with what they currently have in service, not development.

    Russia is behind us in drone tech, they have only just started it. We have been doing it for decades at this point.



    Russia does not need drones or any weapons to destroy the US military, the Woke ideology will destroy the US military.


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    Post  par far Wed May 26, 2021 7:00 pm

    flamming_python wrote:The Baltic states are an especially crappy place to invade Russia from

    Word to the wise



    There are no wise in the west.

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