The RF economy may never grow large enough to justify & afford 2-3 CBGs;
Not having a blue water navy is what will stop the RFs economy from growing... if the British or the French can afford two carriers then why not Russia?
China will replace the US as the next SLOCs policeman & the Russian seaborne trade (a fraction of China's) outside of the NSR will be secure under her protection.
China shows no interest in being the worlds policeman any more than Russia does... China will secure its own SLOCs but I doubt the will cross oceans to assist a Russian ship in trouble... and why would they?
Currently Russias sea borne trade is negligible, but why do you think that wont change?
Should Russia just accept it is a land locked country and only trade with its neighbours?
Half of which are part of NATO?
There is a whole world of countries out there that doesn't want to screw Russia and doesn't want to keep Russia as a poor resource asset... what the west calls the third world want to develop but have not been given any real opportunities by cooperation with the west because the west does not want them to develop and become strong and independent just like they don't want China or Russia to do the same.
The reality is that there are a lot of countries that just want fair trade and up until recently they really only get that from China... Russia can offer cooperation too, and it does not need to be Russia or China... much of the world needs help... and I don't mean charity, I mean trade that benefits both sides and does not limit or make morality or political or cultural demands on the poor country like the west does.
MiG-29K (Indian) was produced since 2005, Russian form 2012 but deign / avionics is older.
Hahahahaha... yeah, right... and the Su-30MKI is all Russian avionics and systems... India never has French or Israeli avionics in their planes... it is all Russia stuff.
The tooling to make MiG-29KRs was set up for producing aircraft for India, but do you think that means they just made some extra Indian aircraft for Russia, or just dumped some old avionics from land based MiG-29s into the plane?
Don't you wonder why they had MiG-35s in mockup form shown in India yet they are still not producing them?
Is that possibly because India and Russia are two different customers and the setups of the two aircraft are not the same for each customer?
At least you are not suggesting the MiG-29K from the 1980s is different to what we are talking about...
The last refit of Su-33 is from 2010. in 10 years they will have almost 20 years without any update. BTW did you have any Syrian upgrade info? I have never heard about it.
They were testing the Gefest & T system added to the Su-33 amongst other new features that they didn't really elaborate on publicly AFAIK.
great we agreed
You don't build CVNs for WWIII, just like you don't make Armata tanks or Su-57s for WWIII... you make SLBMs, long range cruise missiles, and ICBMs for WWIII and various doomsday weapons like Poseiden.
OK now back to earth. Navalized Su-57 surely would be a potent machine. Huuge CVNs would be more potent. But now money talks. First ther ewas about Shtorm 100k tones, then Navy cannot imagine that CVN could be less then 70k. Now Krylov (the only one who placed Su-57k in plaseic ;-) presented 44k model of carrier. That's why it is better to have small cheaper 20-30 fighters CV then none.
Revealing designs means nothing... they are after sales... to whomever... if China said they wanted 5 Storm class carriers... that is what it is all about.
You don't actually think the Russian Navy decides what it wants by looking at press releases from companies that make models do you?
They will decide what they want based on their experience... and so far that suggests that the Kuz is slightly too small.
They are funding EMALS, they are funding NPPs for very large ships, they have funded the upgrade of the Zvezda shipyard in the far east that can make up to 350K ton ships, and they are also funding STOVL aircraft.
I very much doubt they will bank on those STOVL aircraft being good enough on their own so they can go super cheap and make a 40K ton ship to carry them... if they really wanted cheap then a modified gas carrier ship would be a fraction of the cost and be half carrier and half arsenal ship.
They have already realised that bigger ships are better protected and more independent.... they can't afford to have an enormous fleet with huge numbers of all sorts of types of ships, so the carriers they do have will be it... so they might as well be as good as they can make them.
Yak-141 concept 30 years old , not sure why you want to build old design? 30 years ago there were no avangards or poseidons. The new fighter will use definitely new tech/solutions. Same with performance.
To be supersonic, it needs a 20 ton plus engine... no big deal... the R79 of the Yak-41 was developed to 22 tons thrust anyway, so that is not the issue... an evolved upgraded NK-32 could have 30 tons thrust... the point is that during a vertical landing... the only point to a STOVL aircraft... you need special heat resistant decking... that means it can only land on carriers or specially equipped ships... stretches of motor way, or half a runway(damaged), or a clearing in a field are not options for this aircraft.... that engine will destroy the ground underneath it and blow dirt and rubbish into the air to directly damage the engine.
So if it can't land vertically except on a carrier then why not use cable arrested aircraft... any technology you put into a STOVL aircraft to make it better than other aircraft could be put into a conventional aircraft cheaper and easier... conventional aircraft don't need high pressure air blowers in the nose, the wingtips, and the tail for hovering flight... all that extra weight can be eliminated in a STOBAR aircraft.
Pantsir has 800-900km radius?! affraid affraid affraid if not then fighters will be much better.
Obviously an expert you... perhaps you need to pay attention to what "Point Defence" means... which point defence fighter has an 800km radius... and WTF use is a point defence fighter that is 800km away from the ships they are supposed to be defending?
I bet there will be in 20-30 years weapons of global reach available.
That is the point... if you lose this bet who gives a fuck... the Russian Navy are conservative and are interested in becoming an important part of Russian economic and military growth in the future...
In US there are plns to use 50-100kW laser which is able to destroy AAD missile.
Makes sense... their missiles suck.
wait, did you see any tiltrotor or chopper supersonic?
Drop them from orbit and they would probably get quite fast before they burned up....
Then what is the reason Russia stopped procuring of MiG-35 and started developing new VSTOL fighter instead?
What makes you think they wont be buying MiG-35s?
Using your logic USA should stick to F-5. Iran is still using ti with new avionics. They need to replace many fighters thet are goring ot be obsolete/by end of lifecycle in couple of years. They need not only new replacement but affordable.
My logic is fine, you are the one that is suggesting that a MiG-35 with near 5th gen level avionics and systems is going to be much more expensive than a stealthy VSTOL fighter they haven't even designed yet...
Go your way and even if the damn thing is breathtakingly brilliant, it will be another 10 years of old MiG-29s before the new plane even gets into service.
Russia can develop rich economy but limiting factor will always be demography. Even with huge immigration policy unlikely till 2050 wont be moremthan 180 mlns.
Of course having half the landmass of the planet is not enough... more people is obviously their main concern... as populations increase, resources are going to increase in demand... a batch of faulty condoms can increase population if you need it but getting more land is not so easy...
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