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    Post  Arrow Sun May 12, 2019 12:30 pm

    So by 2030, the Chinese navy will have about 35 destroyers. Russia 6 frigate Groshkov and 1 Groshkov M Smile
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun May 12, 2019 1:06 pm

    Arrow wrote:So by 2030, the Chinese navy will have about 35 destroyers. Russia 6 frigate Groshkov and 1 Groshkov M Smile

    Spoiler: Chinese aren't building those ships for Russia Cool

    Again, check the map
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun May 12, 2019 2:26 pm

    Arrow wrote:So by 2030, the Chinese navy will have about 35 destroyers. Russia 6 frigate Groshkov and 1 Groshkov M Smile

    IS THERE NO END TO THE TROLLING WE MUST ENDURE FROM THIS PRICK?   angry

    Seriously, we have to listen to lectures about tolerating the opinions of others or being "respectful", but this guy is just taking the piss...  Suspect
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    Post  Arrow Sun May 12, 2019 2:50 pm

    I do not troll, I only compares the development of the navy of Russia and China. Where China will have a much more powerful navy. Although Russian frigates will be much better armed. China will not have such bullets for a long time as Oniks and Cirkon. Russia also needs a strong navy if it wants to be a suuperpower.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun May 12, 2019 3:05 pm

    Arrow wrote:I do not troll, I only compares the development of the navy of Russia and China. Where China will have a much more powerful navy. Although Russian frigates will be much better armed. China will not have such bullets for a long time as Oniks and Cirkon. Russia also needs a strong navy if it wants to be a suuperpower.


    Unless China plans to sail around the world and invade St. Petersburg I don't see how comparing Chinese and Russian navies matters for anything.

    China can build 20 CVNs and 250 destroyers and it still wouldn't count for shit when it comes to Russia (unless they install wheels on them and drive them onto dry land)

    How about comparing Chinese Navy with Japanese, South Korean or USN? You know, stuff it's built for.
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    Post  hoom Sun May 26, 2019 10:07 am

    Huh, Gorshkov going ham
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    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/24/05/2019/5ce825099a7947ac33e0fade?from=from_main
    The Russian frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" conducted exercises in the Pacific Ocean to search for submarines, reports TASS with reference to the press service of the Northern Fleet.

    "The exercises were held in the central part of the Pacific Ocean, south-east of the Hawaiian Islands," the press service said.

    The search for the submarine "Admiral Gorshkov" was engaged with the help of onboard sonar weapons, the Ka-27 helicopter also took part in the exercises. During the flight, the helicopter used a descending hydroacoustic station.

    Edit: I think the 'South East' is probably actually North West, Google translate seems to have problems with compass directions like that.
    Edit2: though Yandex also says South East dunno
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    Post  Isos Sun May 26, 2019 11:07 am

    They looked for US subs there. If it goes on modernization soon it means its ASW suck. If not then it means they found US subs nicely.
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    Post  hoom Sun May 26, 2019 1:36 pm

    I should think Gorshkov has no need to go half way round the world to be in a place where a US sub is hanging out, probably one of the most certain places in the world for one to be is not far outside Murmansk...
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun May 26, 2019 4:07 pm

    Isos wrote:They looked for US subs there. If it goes on modernization soon it means its ASW suck. If not then it means they found US subs nicely.


    What would US subs be doing in Central Pacific?

    They have dozen higher priority areas in that ocean alone.
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    Post  owais.usmani Sun May 26, 2019 6:17 pm

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/120240/

    Zvezda makes RO55 gearboxes for the new admiralty series of project 22350 ships.


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    Post  Isos Sun May 26, 2019 6:18 pm

    hoom wrote:I should think Gorshkov has no need to go half way round the world to be in a place where a US sub is hanging out, probably one of the most certain places in the world for one to be is not far outside Murmansk...

    Not the same climat and underwater conditions.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun May 26, 2019 9:12 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/120240/

    Zvezda makes RO55 gearboxes for the new admiralty series of project 22350 ships.


    Does this mean they can finally start building more than two at a time?
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    Post  GarryB Mon May 27, 2019 5:44 am

    They looked for US subs there. If it goes on modernization soon it means its ASW suck. If not then it means they found US subs nicely.

    These are multirole ships with a range of capabilities and systems... any of which might have been found wanting, so an upgrade or fix or patch might be needed even if it found US subs with no problems...


    Does this mean they can finally start building more than two at a time?

    How many bottlenecks were there... the propulsion and the SAMs... and it sounds like the SAMs and propulsion are now sorted... so they need to decide how many they want to build and order them...

    Sadly, so far the pattern seems to be when they get something they decide they want an upgraded M model that is bigger... and now that propulsion is sorted if they want a 7,000 ton upgraded version you are starting to look at small nuke propulsion instead... which is OK too of course.
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    Post  hoom Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:44 am

    OOh, Military Acceptance is doing a 22350 episode
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    Post  PhSt Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:16 pm

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    Post  marat Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:17 pm

    Where is Gorshkov now? Last info was that she is going near Hawaii.
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    Post  Isos Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:27 pm

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    Breaking news ⚠ The tactical group of ships of the #ВМФ #СФ🇷🇺#Russian #Navy at the head by the RFS 454 Admiral Gorshkov arrived at port of #Machala ,🇨🇴#Ecuador
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:54 pm

    Isos wrote:Capt(N)
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    Breaking news ⚠ The tactical group of ships of the #ВМФ #СФ🇷🇺#Russian #Navy at the head by the RFS 454 Admiral Gorshkov arrived at port of #Machala ,🇨🇴#Ecuador

    Next onto the Panama Canal then Venezuela, then Cuba and finally off home?

    If they replenish in Morocco or Spain, as I think they did on the way out, that would mark their circumnavigation of the World.


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    Post  marat Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:45 pm

    JohninMK wrote:

    If they replenish in Morocco or Spain, as I think they did on the way out, that would mark their circumnavigation of the World.

    Why this would be needed for circumnavigation? Circumnavigation would be completed even if they would go straight to STP.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:55 pm

    marat wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:

    If they replenish in Morocco or Spain, as I think they did on the way out, that would mark their circumnavigation of the World.

    Why this would be needed for circumnavigation? Circumnavigation  would be completed even if they would go straight to STP.
    I know, it just looks neater on a map.
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    Post  marat Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:14 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    marat wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:

    If they replenish in Morocco or Spain, as I think they did on the way out, that would mark their circumnavigation of the World.

    Why this would be needed for circumnavigation? Circumnavigation  would be completed even if they would go straight to STP.
    I know, it just looks neater on a map.

    lol!

    I thought that there are some secret naval convention about circumnavigation not known to me Smile
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    Post  ult Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:14 am

    Video from Ecuador.

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    Post  Isos Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:55 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
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    Breaking news ⚠ The tactical group of ships of the #ВМФ #СФ🇷🇺#Russian #Navy at the head by the RFS 454 Admiral Gorshkov arrived at port of #Machala ,🇨🇴#Ecuador

    Next onto the Panama Canal then Venezuela, then Cuba and finally off home?

    If they replenish in Morocco or Spain, as I think they did on the way out, that would mark their circumnavigation of the World.

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    The tactical group of ships of the #ВМФ #СФ🇷🇺#Russian #Navy at the head by the RFS 454 Admiral Gorshkov frigate are planning to pass the Panama Canal in the nearest future for deployment in the Caribbean
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:08 am


    Gorshkov in Machala, Ecuador

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:21 pm

    In the Panama Canal yesterday

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