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    Post  Mir Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:07 pm

    I do like this idea as Stalingrad was such a huge moment in modern history.

    "Back to Stalingrad? Disputed poll claims TWO THIRDS of Russians want Volgograd to return to name used during legendary WW2 battle"

    https://www.rt.com/russia/530664-stalingrad-name-restoring-poll/
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:39 am

    https://www.rt.com/russia/531473-navalny-ally-sobol-leaves-country/

    I know Flaming Python will be sad but his hero's under Navalny like Sobol was found guilty and she fled the country. Not surprising. Wonder if some people here will be worried if it will hurt business prospects or what not in Russia now?

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:47 am

    miketheterrible wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/531473-navalny-ally-sobol-leaves-country/

    I know Flaming Python will be sad but his hero's under Navalny like Sobol was found guilty and she fled the country.  Not surprising.  Wonder if some people here will be worried if it will hurt business prospects or what not in Russia now?

    Why the hell would I be sorry?

    She broke the law and tried to overthrow the government. Which is potentially justifiable, if you had a good idea with what to replace it with and the competence to actually do it. But the whole Navalny crew are just a bunch of liberasts and Western media darlings so clearly their ideas are no good.

    You see when people break the law and this fact is public for all to see, then that's a rather different matter than that shit-show with the American investor.

    I'd also add that that guy didn't leave the country even when he released from house arrest, whereas this bitch was on the first plane to Rome.


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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:49 am

    Nothing was shitshow about the American and the case. You just think it was.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:52 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Nothing was shitshow about the American and the case. You just think it was.

    The things that ultimately matter are the consequences.
    If there are honestly none and everyone else thinks the same as you, all the outside investors and business partners, that the guy was a member of the Atlantic Council and clearly evidently guilty of whatever the courts accused him and his partners of, and that there's no way that executive power in Russia has any control over the courts so clearly there could have been no political considerations involved in the case - well in that case I will concede the point to you.
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    Post  franco Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:22 pm

    Russian liberals hoped for an anti-Putin street revolution. They now may be realizing that they wasted years on a doomed strategy


    https://www.rt.com/russia/531608-russian-liberals-pastukhov-article-putinism/
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    Post  kvs Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:55 pm

    franco wrote:Russian liberals hoped for an anti-Putin street revolution. They now may be realizing that they wasted years on a doomed strategy


    https://www.rt.com/russia/531608-russian-liberals-pastukhov-article-putinism/

    They have always been higher functioning autistics.

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    Post  calripson Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:55 pm

    kvs wrote:
    franco wrote:Russian liberals hoped for an anti-Putin street revolution. They now may be realizing that they wasted years on a doomed strategy


    https://www.rt.com/russia/531608-russian-liberals-pastukhov-article-putinism/

    They have always been higher functioning autistics.


    Never met a class of people more compensatory in their inferiority than the Russian intelligentsia.

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    Post  kvs Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:23 pm



    The 'Dozhd' TV channel has been registered as a foreign agent.

    This is clearly a long delayed and necessary response since this outfit is operating on foreign money and is
    not functioning on ad revenue. It would have bankrupted a long time ago if not for foreign meddling.
    Bankruptcy is a natural and healthy process for removing dysfunctional companies.

    Naturally, there are shrieks from both inside and outside Russia what a great crime of oppression this registration
    is. These same clowns (including Amnesty International, etc.) have nothing to say about the Kiev regime shutting
    down opposition media and bloggers.

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    Post  kvs Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:23 pm



    Russia is going to require all work migrants from abroad to carry a biometric card with a chip and photograph.

    This news has caused so-called representatives of such migrants on Russian soil to start wailing about discrimination.
    They demand that Russians be "chipped" first. That's some fine hater chutzpah for you. These clowns come to
    Russia voluntarily for money and have the gall to resent it for proper tracking of foreigners. They actually think that
    they have more or equal rights to Russians. What utter scumbaggery. These biometric cards will not be scanning
    your iPhone or censoring your Youtube posts you fecking clowns. Bugger on off to the NATzO west to enjoy your
    mythical rights.

    This is clearly an attempt to leverage western woke politics in Russia.

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:51 pm

    kvs wrote:...They demand that Russians be "chipped" first. ...

    ''Chipped''?

    Oh I just love this verbal swindle bullshit

    They are trying to make it sound like humans are getting chipped when in fact it's ID card that gets the chip in order to prevent counterfeit

    If they don't like it the can go f*ck themselves and pack their shit


    Oh and that ''comedian'' that was banned from entering Russia for being a shithead is now trying to sue the state to get that reversed, good luck with that

    That's what you get when you shit where you eat, he can make money by telling jokes wherever the f*ck he came from

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    Post  kvs Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:55 pm



    The Russian MSM is infested with compradors. Here we have an example of how they twist information to work over the
    Russian public to undermine Russian stability. The sanctions shock in 2014 produced a one-off transient 445 billion ruble loss
    that occurred before the end of 2015. There is no annual loss accumulating since then. Such an adjustment transient is
    to be expected, the ruble devaluation likely played a major role in it and there was an associated recession in 2015.

    However, the MSM, in particular, Kommersant, makes a convenient "mistake" and gives the consumer an impression that Russia
    is losing 450 billion rubles every year since 2014 because of sanctions. The outright 5th column alt-media such as Meduza and
    Snob run with this BS to push their sedition narratives about how the Russian government is screwing over the Russian people.
    Recall that these same "NGO" outfits push the narrative that the 1990s were a golden era. The Orwellian doublethink is mind
    numbing. The Russian people were screwed and hard during the 1990s. It is the "ebil Putler regime" that has not only
    restored their standard of living it has pushed it much higher than it was before 1990 and especially before 1999. It is those
    same Russian people that vote "ebil Putler" into power over and over, because they know he delivers. The 5th column is
    trying to work over enough idiot malcontents to create strife.

    The woman shown in the video and trotted out by Kommersant is a shill that pushes specific talking points:

    1) Only foreign investments can help Russia get off the oil needle.

    2) Russia has a severe case of Dutch disease.

    Neither of these talking points has any relation to reality. We have discussed the oil needle BS many times. The Dutch disease
    pertains to GDP growth concentrated in one sector at the expense of others. For example resource exports versus manufacturing,
    agriculture, etc.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_disease

    How are Russian oil and gas exports which account for less than 10% of its GDP crowding out other sectors? After 2014, Russian
    agriculture has experienced a boom with small farmers and food producers sprouting like mushrooms. For example fine Italian cheese
    makers who make demonstrably high quality products. Import substitution has stimulated Russian manufacturing. Every dollar
    of import reduction translates into two dollars of GDP increase.

    The 2014 sanctions spasm of the NATzO west has been a boon for Russia. It has helped it unplug and flush away the distortions
    introduced during the 1990s "golden era". This includes removing its dependence on food imports from NATzO and elsewhere.
    As well as other goods from electronics to machinery.

    Kommersant needs to be offshored. It is engaging in sedition.

    BTW, the sedition propaganda pattern applied in Russia is exactly the same one as used to discredit climate change science.
    Exxon, Koch brothers, or whatnot pay for some "research" published in an low impact and shady journal that lacks proper review
    standards and then this study is endlessly cited by the shill media to spread FUD including the lie that science is not certain on the
    processes and risk of global warming.



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    Post  Mir Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:49 pm

    Russia experienced a Golden Era in the 90's?! Laughing Laughing

    Does Kommersant have any serious traction in Russia?
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    Post  kvs Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:45 pm

    Mir wrote:Russia experienced a Golden Era in the 90's?! Laughing Laughing

    Does Kommersant have any serious traction in Russia?

    The mantra of Navalny and other NATzO sycophants in Russia was exactly that the 1990s were heady days of freedom
    and the golden era. Most sane Russians who were not born after 1999 know that they were a gangster's paradise with
    economic decline worse than WWII. The 1990s depression in Russia makes the US great depression of the 1930s look
    like a recession.

    Kommersant clearly is tainted by its former ownership by Boris Berezovsky, one of those "golden era" gangster oligarchs
    who has a hundreds of deaths to his name. Of course he was not pursued by the rotten judicial system for these crimes
    like he should have during the 1990s. But this is just like the 1930s rot in the USA and Al Capone.

    Kommersant is not a marginal rag that nobody knows about. It has enough weight to be significant. So its sedition activity
    is not something to be fobbed off.

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    Post  Mir Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:23 pm

    Well it was certainly a "golden era" for those that plundered Russia - I am pretty sure they really miss the good times they had back then Laughing

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    Post  kvs Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:30 pm

    Mir wrote:Well it was certainly a "golden era" for those that plundered Russia - I am pretty sure they really miss the good times they had back then Laughing

    The chutzpah of Navalny and the rest of these sycophant clowns is over the top. It comes naturally for them to call Russian voters
    "bydlo" (animal chattel) since they dare not vote for the parties that serve their agendas. Apparently, democracy means being told
    who to vote for. I would say that the Russian voters are more intelligent than the sycophants who deride them.

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    Post  George1 Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:22 am

    Voting kicks off in Russia’s State Duma elections

    https://tass.com/politics/1338735
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    Post  George1 Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:10 pm

    Five parties enter State Duma with 10% of protocols counted — CEC

    MOSCOW, September 10. /TASS/. United Russia, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR), the A Just Russia - For Truth party and the New People party have cleared the five-percent threshold needed to make it into the State Duma (lower house), according to data from the Central Election Commission.

    United Russia
    has gained 38.85% of the vote,
    the Communist Party received 24.94%,
    LDPR got 9.57%,
    New People garnered 7.83%
    and A Just Russia - For Truth gained 6.75%.

    https://tass.com/politics/1339685
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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:52 pm

    George1 wrote:Five parties enter State Duma with 10% of protocols counted — CEC

    MOSCOW, September 10. /TASS/. United Russia, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR), the A Just Russia - For Truth party and the New People party have cleared the five-percent threshold needed to make it into the State Duma (lower house), according to data from the Central Election Commission.

    United Russia
    has gained 38.85% of the vote,
    the Communist Party received 24.94%,
    LDPR got 9.57%,
    New People garnered 7.83%
    and A Just Russia - For Truth gained 6.75%.

    https://tass.com/politics/1339685

    seems about right. Surprised communists gained more. Figured LDPR would have jumped more.
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    Post  George1 Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:57 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    George1 wrote:Five parties enter State Duma with 10% of protocols counted — CEC

    MOSCOW, September 10. /TASS/. United Russia, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR), the A Just Russia - For Truth party and the New People party have cleared the five-percent threshold needed to make it into the State Duma (lower house), according to data from the Central Election Commission.

    United Russia
    has gained 38.85% of the vote,
    the Communist Party received 24.94%,
    LDPR got 9.57%,
    New People garnered 7.83%
    and A Just Russia - For Truth gained 6.75%.

    https://tass.com/politics/1339685

    seems about right.  Surprised communists gained more.  Figured LDPR would have jumped more.

    vote towards the restoration of USSR? Very Happy

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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:30 pm

    George1 wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    George1 wrote:Five parties enter State Duma with 10% of protocols counted — CEC

    MOSCOW, September 10. /TASS/. United Russia, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR), the A Just Russia - For Truth party and the New People party have cleared the five-percent threshold needed to make it into the State Duma (lower house), according to data from the Central Election Commission.

    United Russia
    has gained 38.85% of the vote,
    the Communist Party received 24.94%,
    LDPR got 9.57%,
    New People garnered 7.83%
    and A Just Russia - For Truth gained 6.75%.

    https://tass.com/politics/1339685

    seems about right.  Surprised communists gained more.  Figured LDPR would have jumped more.

    vote towards the restoration of USSR? Very Happy

    I hope not. I think its a mix of older people and very young. Much older who remember USSR and the young who dont realize the mess it created afterwards.

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:50 am


    WTF is wrong with Russians? Commies gained votes?

    I just listened to that Lenin wannabe and instead of suggesting something coherent like taxing the corporations his big idea is nationalisation of everything that generates any kind of revenue

    Because shit like that always works swimmingly, just look at Venezuela for recent example (or Russia for full bore)

    How retarded can someone be?

    Although my guess is that they know exactly what they are suggesting: take money from rich and give it to themselves while torching the nation in the process just like before, classic commies

    And best of all there are two additional commie parties in the elections

    That shithead Mironov was kindly explaining on RT how voters are ''not intelligent enough to understand their vision''



    Russia is long overdue for good old Operation Condor

    This shit has seriously gone far enough, cancer is already metastasising



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    Post  flamming_python Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:54 am

    There was a state-created spoiler party for the communists (actually 2). One gained something like 1.5% and the other nearly made the 3% threshold.
    So that's already 4-4.5% votes lost for the communists

    Plus the usual mess in the Caucasus I assume (haven't checked), with 99% of Chechnya voting for United Russia or whatever (typically it's a similar situation in Dagestan and a couple others). And of course they all vote, apparently. So another huge amount of votes (relative to the low turnout country-wide) that shouldn't count but do, and all in favour of United Russia.

    And I presume the ruling party/class angles the counting of votes within believable bounds as well. There are always scandals with some girls bringing in 100 random votes out of nowhere and depositing them into the ballot boxes or adding them afterwards, or whatever.

    A farce in other words. The KPRF should be polling more at 30-35%, while most people I know don't bother voting in this whole charade anymore. I think I'm the only guy who still does pirat

    BTW the 'New People' party is another spoiler one the rulers created, only this time for liberals. And it seems it worked quite well.
    Well that's useful at least. When I was at my polling station I noticed the Yabloko party's candidate was a dude with blue hair; looked like a member of the 'creative class' and quite possibly of a non-traditional sexual orientation as well. Typical.
    I don't actually imagine what a systemic-opposition liberal would actually be like though, given that the whole liberal idea is essentially to act as an intermediary between foreign capital and your own country's population and profit off that. Accepting funds and support from the West is not only their modus operandi, but their reason de etre.

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    Post  Kiko Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:08 am

    Russia is long overdue for good old Operation Condor
    Swell! Just like bombing the Kremlin, "suiciding" VVP at point-blank, death-squads and "missing" victims, mass torture and closing diplomatic relations with China, Cuba and Venezuela. Similarly, as Kissinger, Rabin and Bombama got the Nobel, let's propose PD!

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:10 am

    miketheterrible wrote:
    seems about right.  Surprised communists gained more.  Figured LDPR would have jumped more.

    The LDPR revealed itself during the Khabarovsk protests when it was used by the government to send in a loyal candidate in place of Furgal who was arrested.
    It functioned exactly as the ruling class's lapdog, not that anyone really had any doubts before.

    I'm surprised they didn't lose more. But then again the whole system is rigged dunno

    Speaking of Khabarovsk, said loyal candidate sent in to replace Furgal when the entire city was out protesting against him and the arrest just last year, has won a resounding victory in the gubernatorial elections there. Hmm, likely story

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