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    Post  franco Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:33 am

    ian bremmer 3 hours ago

    % satisfied with the way democracy is working in their country

    India, Sweden, Tanzania 79% (highest)
    Germany 73%
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    Russia 59%
    UK 52%
    Japan 50%
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    Mexico 6% (lowest)
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    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:51 am

    With Mexico at 6% perhaps it is time for Russia to foment a bit of communism there to get equality for the peasants and some justice against the rich... a bit of justice for the coloured revolutions the US has funded near Russian borders and against Russian allies.

    Of course I am not serious... I would not suggest anyone should inflict such death and destruction on the Mexican people, but if they are not happy with how thing turned out who else should change things but them?
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    Post  George1 Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:25 pm

    GarryB wrote:With Mexico at 6% perhaps it is time for Russia to foment a bit of communism there to get equality for the peasants and some justice against the rich... a bit of justice for the coloured revolutions the US has funded near Russian borders and against Russian allies.

    Of course I am not serious... I would not suggest anyone should inflict such death and destruction on the Mexican people, but if they are not happy with how thing turned out who else should change things but them?

    Mexico is another case. Dont forget there is the Drug War where there and corruption at extreme level. Remember the case where about 40 activists-students were arrested by the police and then the police handed them to drug cartels and they killed them. Even there remains cant be found.
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    Post  Project Canada Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:31 pm

    GarryB wrote:With Mexico at 6% perhaps it is time for Russia to foment a bit of communism there to get equality for the peasants and some justice against the rich... a bit of justice for the coloured revolutions the US has funded near Russian borders and against Russian allies.

    Of course I am not serious... I would not suggest anyone should inflict such death and destruction on the Mexican people, but if they are not happy with how thing turned out who else should change things but them?

    Unfortunately, as long as the Mexican government remain useful lackeys for USA the "International community" wouldn't give a crap to the Mexican people regardless of their suffering.
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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:44 pm

    Things politically do not look good in Russia.

    You got two people whom are clearly anti Russian, pro American and Ukraine Junta running for president of the country (Paranbas leader and sobchak), and in Ekaterinberg, George Soros and McCain funded organization is causing major problems.

    I think, due to the authorities failure to act, this could be what destroys Russia.

    https://ria.ru/amp/society/20171122/1509386452.html
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    Post  Project Canada Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:03 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Things politically do not look good in Russia.

    You got two people whom are clearly anti Russian, pro American and Ukraine Junta running for president of the country (Paranbas leader and sobchak), and in Ekaterinberg, George Soros and McCain funded organization is causing major problems.

    I think, due to the authorities failure to act, this could be what destroys Russia.

    https://ria.ru/amp/society/20171122/1509386452.html

    How come these kinds of prostitution to the west doesn't happen in equally powerful countries like China? Russia clearly needs to set up laws that would make it illegal to support narratives that would lead to disintegration of Russia's sovereignty. All these western prostitutes needs to be humiliated with extreme prejudice.
    Now, the youth on the other hand needs to be taught from the earliest age possible to be Patriotic and Nationalistic so future generations of Russians are least susceptible to the idea of selling off their country. Rolling Eyes
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    Post  Cyberspec Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:39 pm

    I think you guys are wrong....these people are alowed to exist to clearly show the people what the alternative is to the current government...just like their foreign sponsors, they're not exactly very smart. Instead of suppressing them, all the Russsian government has to do is loudly broadcast and show what they do and stand for

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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:52 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:I think you guys are wrong....these people are alowed to exist to clearly show the people what the alternative is to the current government...just like their foreign sponsors, they're not exactly very smart. Instead of suppressing them, all the Russsian government has to do is loudly broadcast and show what they do and stand for


    And if the system is rigged from outside were they can just pay thousands or millions of people to vote for this person, as we seen how they pay people to go protest?
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    Post  Svyatoslavich Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:48 am

    Cyberspec wrote:I think you guys are wrong....these people are alowed to exist to clearly show the people what the alternative is to the current government...just like their foreign sponsors, they're not exactly very smart. Instead of suppressing them, all the Russsian government has to do is loudly broadcast and show what they do and stand for

    You nailed it. The Russian government even funds and gives lots of prime-time air to pro-Western liberals exactly because of this. There is an excellent article by The Saker on this subject, worthy reading:
    http://thesaker.is/re-visiting-russian-counter-propaganda-methods/
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:34 am

    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:I think you guys are wrong....these people are alowed to exist to clearly show the people what the alternative is to the current government...just like their foreign sponsors, they're not exactly very smart. Instead of suppressing them, all the Russsian government has to do is loudly broadcast and show what they do and stand for

    You nailed it. The Russian government even funds and gives lots of prime-time air to pro-Western liberals exactly because of this. There is an excellent article by The Saker on this subject, worthy reading:
    http://thesaker.is/re-visiting-russian-counter-propaganda-methods/

    Agreed. Heck just translating and publishing crap you get about Russia in GoogleNews feeds from MSM is more than enough to get the job done.

    It's reverse Cold War at this point with modern media playing Soviet Pravda.
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    Post  Cyberspec Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:11 am

    And if the system is rigged from outside were they can just pay thousands or millions of people to vote for this person, as we seen how they pay people to go protest?

    I think the possibilty of that happening now days is close to zero


    Svyatoslavich wrote:You nailed it. The Russian government even funds and gives lots of prime-time air to pro-Western liberals exactly because of this. There is an excellent article by The Saker on this subject, worthy reading:
    http://thesaker.is/re-visiting-russian-counter-propaganda-methods/

    Thanks for the link. It's about foreign propaganda but it's the same principle as for the domestic "liberals"....Lokks like it's working Wink
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:52 pm

    Sobchak - is she an ingenious plan of Uncle Vowa?

    1) she is actually getting a lots of coverage in gotv's media.
    2) she is genuine Russian liberal
    3) Her statements render her never elected but still can channel voice of liberal part of society in a democratic manner (without CIA sponsorship)

    In my deep thoughts if she gets real grasp on things suddenly she might change her image and statements for mor epro Russian. Consider her a Trojan Horse gift for liberal camp.




    GarryB wrote:With Mexico at 6% perhaps it is time for Russia to foment a bit of communism there to get equality for the peasants and some justice against the rich... a bit of justice for the coloured revolutions the US has funded near Russian borders and against Russian allies.


    «Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the United States!»: Mexican President Porfirio Diaz (1830-1915)

    If not Putin's epic fight to rebuild Russia after 90s Russia might end up as Mexico...
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    Post  George1 Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:54 am

    Everything you need to know about United Russia party

    More:
    http://tass.com/politics/982635
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    Post  Cyberspec Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:55 am

    Interesting oppinion piece about the 2018 election...the author believes liberal heads will roll post election

    Putin's 2018 Election Campaign: A New Beginning?
    http://www.fort-russ.com/2018/01/putins-2018-election-campaign-new.html
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:15 pm

    http://thesaker.is/grid-dynamics-connects-wars-in-ukraine-and-syria-with-soros-open-russia-sobchak-and-snipers-in-saratov/?utm_content=buffer28552&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    A long article but it shows and proves Sobchak's pro Nazi background, proves an organization still operating in Russia freely is a George Soros organization and Khordokovsky organization. How this organization held Hotel Sniper training sessions in Russia, and how they infiltrated the most industrialized city/region in Russia.

    We're the fuck are the Russian authorities? How are they letting this happen?

    Fuck, I think Russia will split apart because of gross incompetence of FSB.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:03 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:http://thesaker.is/grid-dynamics-connects-wars-in-ukraine-and-syria-with-soros-open-russia-sobchak-and-snipers-in-saratov/?utm_content=buffer28552&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    A long article but it shows and proves Sobchak's pro Nazi background, proves an organization still operating in Russia freely is a George Soros organization and Khordokovsky organization. How this organization held Hotel Sniper training sessions in Russia, and how they infiltrated the most industrialized city/region in Russia.

    We're the fuck are the Russian authorities? How are they letting this happen?

    Fuck, I think Russia will split apart because of gross incompetence of FSB.

     
    And I think that Sobchak is a genius Putin's project. She knew she would get this role long time ago.  This is a chance to get perhaps imperfect but still Russian genuine opposition.  I dont like liberals myself but if you deny them right to express their mind in framework of law then many (especially young) people will consider them  oppressed ones. And support.

    IMHO much better is to let them speak their mind and disgrace themselves beside supporting them is no forbidden fruit among young population but   sheer stupidity. But anyway Russia needs some platform for liberals who are not actual US mignon and thief (Chubais, Prokhorov) or on US payrol (vide Navalny) .  

    What about it? do you think Putin is stupid letting real danger to election?
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:07 pm

    It's stupid to let banned organizations to freely operate in Russia. I don't care about libs and their low support. But clearly allowing organizations pushing for a violent takeover (Maiden) and even training "snipers from hotel rooms) is clearly fucking stupid and wouldn't be allowed anywhere else.

    Thing is too, this organization (according to article) has infiltrated China too.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:43 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:It's stupid to let banned organizations to freely operate in Russia. I don't care about libs and their low support. But clearly allowing organizations pushing for a violent takeover (Maiden) and even training "snipers from hotel rooms) is clearly fucking stupid and wouldn't be allowed anywhere else.

    Thing is too, this organization (according to article) has infiltrated China too.


    And you are sure of source? who is author  and what was his agenda? this would mean that FSB just watches porn and Chinese services are in fact guards in Aliexpress warehouses.  Maidan in Russia aint gonna be anytime soon. Snipers are not main element and as criminal underground will be liquidated. There is no public support to maidowns neither libreasts. 
    It is specific case of Baltics and Ukraine this love for nazis. In Russia it is actual negligible minority. 

    Do you really think last 20years or so Vova was not careful watching all environment around? do you think he knows less that we do? I seriously doubt.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:53 pm

    Did you even read the article or did you just read the title?

    All links and backup documents are present. Even these idiots voast about their activities on VK. Names are given, plus links probing it.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:39 pm

    Got to love it. Yakaterinbergs mayor participated in anti government, Pro Navalny protests. Even though the total outcome of the protests was pathetic. Nation wide, around ~30,000 people total.

    https://twitter.com/spacelordrock/status/957554926657396737
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    Post  AlfaT8 Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:40 am

    Let's see, a total population of around 147 mill, so 147/100=1.47=1%, 1470000/30000=49=>1%/49=0.021% or 1470000/40000=36.75=>1%/36.75=0.027%.
    In conclusion, pathetic, and don't you need a certain number of supporters to be eligible to run for president in Russia?
    If so, would this be remotely enough?
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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:01 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:Let's see, a total population of around 147 mill, so 147/100=1.47=1%, 1470000/30000=49=>1%/49=0.021% or 1470000/40000=36.75=>1%/36.75=0.027%.
    In conclusion, pathetic, and don't you need a certain number of supporters to be eligible to run for president in Russia?
    If so, would this be remotely enough?

    Presidential candidates in Russia require 1 million signatures to participate in the election. This biases the choices to candidates
    from main parties or those who can set up organizations to gather this many signatures. But it eliminates the chaos of random
    candidates in the thousands running for the job. The Russian system is actually more open to candidates not affiliated with
    the main parties compared to the US system.

    Navalny can't run for president because he was tried and found guilty in a criminal case. Anyone who researches this clown
    sees that he is a grifter and that is why he is a US puppet who regularly colludes with US embassy officials. Trump is being
    harassed because some of his campaign people met Russian citizens. By this standard, Navalny should be getting the electric
    chair.
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:36 am

    Actually in Russia it's 100,000 if you are head of a registered party. If running independent, you need 300,000. Putin running as independent and so he needed 300,000 by Jan 20. By Jan 16 or so, he exceeded the 300,000 by about 1.2M votes. While the rest like Sobchak and Titov we're a little over half way of 100,000 by Jan 15.
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    Post  Svyatoslavich Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:04 pm

    Anti-Putin protester making ashamed of himself:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=tdF3Et4ni1s
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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:16 pm

    So far, Sobchak's entire campaign running is in the United States
    https://twitter.com/camanpour/status/961648270266249220

    https://twitter.com/MarkSleboda1/status/961845143983685632

    https://twitter.com/FearDept/status/961810515428130819

    https://twitter.com/GrahamWP_UK/status/961938627021430784

    https://twitter.com/27khv/status/961844151464570882

    This is rather serious and very pathetic that such a candidate has not been barred or kicked out of running. This sets a very dangerous situation for future elections.

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