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    Post  kvs on 15/05/20, 07:13 pm



    People on this board think Trump is bad. Well, the Democraps are much worse. Bunch of lying, Russia hating degenerates.
    There is more anti-Russian bile in the US left than right. In fact, over the last 4 years it has been elements of the US
    right that have been the sane voices including in foreign affairs.

    But Democraps have been systematically anti-Russian. They are vermin and that goes back to their 1800s role in creating
    US apartheid. Truman was a foaming at the mouth Russia hater. He was the clown who unleashed the CIA onto Latin
    America and really ignited the Cold War in all its scumminess. Republican Eisenhower was actually a voice for reason.
    Kennedy was assassinated to be replaced by that racist southern Democrap Johnson. There is evidence that Johnson
    was part of the plot to assassinate Kennedy. Kennedy's crime was reaching out to the USSR. BTW, Trump tried the
    same thing and has been subject to a slow moving political assassination for the last 4 years with the Russiagate hoax.

    More recently we have had Obummer with his foaming at the mouth hate for Russia. On his watch we had the coup
    in Ukraine and big plans to destroy Syria using Jihadis. Obummer and Hitlery organized the destruction of Libya. And
    Hitlery was threatening to go to war with Russia to make sure the jiahdi terrorists succeeded in Syria.

    Note how faggot Kimmel includes the "crime" of trusting Putin over US intelligence. This is one of the pulled from the
    ass talking points that is the daily bread of Democraps. Everything that Democrap-loyalist propagandists spout is a
    pure lie.

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    Post  GarryB on 16/05/20, 06:17 am

    To be fair with all the evidence over the non existence of Russian influence in US elections... except by trolls created and controlled by the Democrats in response from non existent real Russian trolls, seems to show most of the smoke and mirrors involved was created and dispersed by US intelligence agencies to get rid of Trump so he was pretty much on the money not to trust them at all.

    The fact that the democrats bitch slapped him into reversing on most of his stated policies... like bringing US troops home from wars that don't matter to most Americans, and better relations with Russia, are things you can blame Trump for, but ignoring US Intel was the smartest thing he did.
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    Post  kvs on 16/05/20, 08:44 pm

    Watergate was supposedly some big abuse of power by a sitting president that lead to the resignation of Nixon. Watergate
    was nothing compared to Obummer's hijacking of the FBI and CIA and other US police state apparatus elements to try to
    derail Trump's presidency. The frameups and fake "evidence" used to get FISA warrants is pure abuse of power and shows
    that the vaunted US checks and balances are utterly useless.

    When I refer to the USA as a de facto one party state I am not blowing hot air. The Republicans had control of the
    lower house in the first two years of Trump's first term but allowed the absurd Russiagate witch hunt to proceed.
    I don't have to love Trump to point out the totalitarian nature of the US mass media. They are 90% the mouthpieces
    of the Democraps. Fox News is wishy washy and never attacked the fake Russiagate "evidence" and went along
    with the whole Russian hacker BS. BTW, the Crowd-strike company hired by the DNC never found any evidence of
    Russian hackers. That is because it was Seth Rich who leaked the information to Wikileaks and was murdered for it.
    Fox news was like the Republican party, playing the same one-party regime role.

    Recall how when there was a theft of emails from climate researchers several years ago, Fox and other anti-climate
    change media were cherry picking the contents to "prove" climate scientists were engaged in a hoax. For some
    reason the actual theft of the emails was never an issue. But in the DNC case, the "theft" was the only issue
    and the serious evidence in the emails was totally ignored. One does not get such behaviour under real conditions
    of independence and freedom. This is all orchestrated theater.

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    Post  GarryB on 17/05/20, 06:21 am

    There is no real difference between the democrats and republicans in the... in fact there is more difference between Biden and Sanders than there is between Biden and Trump or Biden and Clinton.

    When either gets into office the first thing they do is tax cuts for the highest tax bracket... to stimulate the economy... and to reward them for their financial contributions that let us bribe our way to victory...

    Once they are in they dedicate their time to sabotaging the other team... one side wants all Americans to have health care as a right, the other side will oppose that whether it helps americans or not... because it is obama care... but obama just wanted his name on something... he really could care less about poor americans, but by putting his name on it he doomed it to be obliterated by the next republican with the power to do so... surprised... I wasn't.

    But don't take my word for it... listen to one of the great philosophers of our age... Homer J Simpson...

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on 17/05/20, 06:50 am

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    Post  kvs on 17/05/20, 09:44 pm



    Direct evidence that Greenpeace is a weaponized "enviro" outfit and not any sort of true NGO.
    It is currently waging a campaign against the building of garbage incineration plants in Russia
    when its headquarters in the Netherlands are 10 km away from exactly one such facility which
    happens to be the biggest in Europe. When it comes to NATzO, Greenpiss pretends everything
    is holy and heavenly, when it comes to Russia everything is evil and hellish.

    Greenpiss is the clown outfit that claimed that Chernobyl resulted in 1 million deaths. No real
    scientific study has even approached such a number. Even with the increased incidence of
    cancer in Belorus, the total impact of Chernobyl is under 10,000. The direct impact was less
    than 100.

    According to Greenpiss and its transparently biased assessment, 30 new waste incineration plants
    in the Moscow region will be producing 5 million tons of highly toxic ash per year. This is BS
    since they assume the characteristics of the incineration furnaces and stacks without actually
    knowing them. They are using a typical year 1900 era primitive low temperature furnace with
    a regular stack (no scrubbing) as their model. I can pull such useless models out my ass too.

    The Greenpiss agenda is to serve western corporate interests. So Russia building its own incineration
    plants (with high temperature furnaces and scrubbing) is bad for western business since Russia
    gains from import substitution. It also controls illegal dumping of waste into forests which cleans
    up its image. Greenpiss has never once protested the incineration plant in Amsterdam over the
    20 years of its operation and has also never protested any other incineration plant in the EU.

    The interview of a Greenpiss representative in Amsterdam is hilarious. She brazenly denies
    knowing anything about any incineration plants in the city. Seriously, such lying would make
    a 10 year old cringe.
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    Post  miketheterrible on 18/05/20, 03:12 am

    Greenpeace protests in Canada all the fricking time. No one listens to them.
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    Post  kvs on 18/05/20, 07:55 pm



    Radio Freedom (Svoboda) has been caught in a brazen fake. It tried to spread anti-Russian propaganda about Covid-19
    lineups with photographs from Ukraine. Like the Holodomor hoaxers can't supply genuine photographs of famine victims
    in Ukraine and use photos from Russia and India.

    After its fraud was exposed on social media, RF simply cropped the photograph to remove the most obvious indication
    that it was taken in Ukraine (the word "pressa" on a kiosk). So NATzO "truth tellers" just keep on lying as if they
    become more convincing. Like the Greenpiss representative in Amsterdam who denied any knowledge of any
    waste incinerators while being located 10 km from the biggest one in Europe.

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    Post  miketheterrible on 18/05/20, 11:03 pm

    I think its time that it is brought to light on every source not only in Russia but abroad.

    One thing Russia lacks is a proper english language media outlet.
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    Post  GarryB on 19/05/20, 02:46 pm

    Actually my biggest problem with RT is that it spends more time talking about the US than it does talking about Russia.

    I think having a channel to debunk western propaganda makes sense, but I would also like to see a channel that shows development and progress in Russia as well... they had a programmed called Technology Update, which was really good... I really enjoyed it... they could add a military version like Combat Approved for progress with military stuff...
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    Post  kvs on 19/05/20, 11:17 pm



    The state of western "journalism" today. Pure lie factory drivel in the form agit-prop. Anyone who waves western MSM
    stories as evidence of anything is a full bore retard.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on 22/05/20, 05:57 am

    HBO struck-out for the 3rd time, First with Vice in Ukraine, next with Chernobyl, and now with their mythical gay persecution in Chechnya...mean while someone on twitter said this:

    "Homosexuality is a crime in 70 countries (no, Russia is not among them)
    In 13 countries it’s punishable by death. Yet, US media doesn’t care about gays thrown from the rooftops in Saudi Arabia, or stoned to death in Qatar or Brunei.

    So, it’s not about gays?.. It’s about Russia."

    https://twitter.com/VeraVanHorne/status/1263592596334448643


    It should no longer be called HBO, it should be called the HOBO network!

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    Post  PhSt on 24/05/20, 10:41 pm

    This statement by Volodin needs to be amplified throughout Russia and the entire world. Russian media and patriotic organizations in the country needs to keep reminding the Russian people that America and NATO continuously seek and are working hard to ensure Russia's destruction. Russia needs not only to defend itself but to hit back and destroy their enemies.



    US seeks to undermine Russians’ trust in Putin via controlled media - State Duma speaker

    MOSCOW, May 24. /TASS/. The United States is trying to use controlled media, bloggers and opposition politicians to undermine Russians’ trust in President Vladimir Putin, whose policy has brought the country to a new level, State Duma (lower house) Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said on Sunday.

    "Our President Vladimir Putin has brought Russia to a new level when it is taken into account and respected. If compared with the 1990s, it is absolutely evident that there has been significant growth in all spheres of life," Volodin said.

    "We are strengthening our positions and that’s why they are hitting at our advantage. Our advantage is our president, who enjoys support of citizens, while the US is trying to undermine this trust," the lower house speaker said, stressing that these are "the methods of the Central Intelligence Agency and the State Department."

    "I don’t think that I will open a big secret by saying that they are constantly keeping in touch with some opposition politicians as well as a number of mass media outlets and bloggers," he noted.

    According to the State Duma speaker, some of them probably don’t even realize that they are "just pawns, which are used to destroy their own country." "We need not only to understand this, but also to resist interference in our country’s internal affairs," Volodin said.

    The US is spreading fake news about the coronavirus situation and on the ratings of Russian authorities because it is trying to destabilize the situation in the country in order to preserve its dominating position in the word, he noted.

    "When we talk about American democracy and American achievements, we recognize that this country has achieved a lot. But these achievements are at the expense of other countries. Everything in the world is changing, nothing lasts forever, and realizing this, the United States wants to maintain its dominating position, as before, by weakening other states," the speaker said, noting that the US had done a lot for the collapse of the Soviet Union, although this also led to the mistakes by the Soviet leadership, which has lost the citizens’ trust.

    "Today it is absolutely evident that the situation in our country is different. The president relies on the citizens’ support and he has done a lot for Russia and is constantly showing his effectiveness. The US understands that this is Russia’s strong point," he said, noting that therefore Washington’s attacks are aimed at discrediting the president, the key power institutions and leading politicians in order to undermine trust and weaken them.

    The speaker noted that the US has not given up its plan on weakening and further dismembering Russia. "For this, they need obedient politicians at the helm of our country who would be guided by their interests, and not the interests of our citizens," he added. Volodin linked Washington’s unprecedented pressure on Russia and fake news as well as meddling in domestic affairs to the fact that the US position in the world has been shattered. China has started outperforming the US in economy and technological development, while Russia has surpassed Washington in the military field.

    Earlier, the Russian embassy in the United States called upon the Bloomberg news agency to apologize for wrong information about Russian President Vladimir Putin’s poll ratings. The diplomats explained that the report with a reference to the Russian Public Opinion Research Center posted a chart according to which the indicators are 27%. However, the real level of trust is 67.9%.

    According to the survey, published on the Russian pollster’s official website, Putin’s trust and approval ratings remained at the level of 67-68% in the past weeks.

    https://tass.com/politics/1159781

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    Post  Hole on 25/05/20, 12:06 am

    All this poor innocent mistakes in western media coverage of Russia. Sad
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    Post  franco on 07/06/20, 09:40 pm

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-sends-more-troops-west-challenging-us-nato-presence-near-borders/ar-BB156dgJ

    The only thing the West needs to fear is fear-mongers like this.  No
    - the 27th Guards brigade stationed in Moscow transferred to... no wait they didn't actually move.  Suspect
    - as the only combat unit in Moscow City proper they reported to the General Staff.
    - they will know report to the 1st Guards Tank Army HQ which is a very long 12 kilometers away. Rolling Eyes

    Truly a frightening development against NATO forces on the Russian border. What drivel !!!
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    Post  nomadski on 17/06/20, 02:20 pm

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-53066537

    The BBC also reported this. In Skripal case, their own work, of poor underfunded scientist. Good job Teresa threw some money at them for  " Research". To keep the Genie in the bottle......

    What I do not understand, is how someone attacked by hammer blow to head, while sleeping, by strong man, manages to get up at all!  Put a struggle and get hammer back and deliver blow to head of opponent and nobody is dead ?  The Hammer must be made of Rubber. LOL.. How did intruder gain access to apartment?  Maybe the backdoor was left open........



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    Maybe the Russian assassin is weak handed....... They do not wield the Hammer and Sickle anymore....
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    Post  GarryB on 18/06/20, 08:08 am

    Greenpiss is the clown outfit that claimed that Chernobyl resulted in 1 million deaths. No real
    scientific study has even approached such a number. Even with the increased incidence of
    cancer in Belorus, the total impact of Chernobyl is under 10,000. The direct impact was less
    than 100.

    The number I saw was 57 people killed directly from radiation... and the numbers of people who got cancer because of Chernobyl is greatly offset by the number of people saved by Chernobyl.

    That is not a huge surprise... one of the biggest things in dealing with cancer is finding it early and when you have a nuclear event that means the entire population gets screened then you find a lot of cancers that might not even be related to the incident and increase in radiation levels at their early stage where they can be treated and the patient survives. Where normally the patient would not notice any symptoms until it is too late and they end up dying from an undiagnosed cancer.
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    Post  kvs on 11/07/20, 09:02 pm



    The western fake stream media and their fellow travelers in Russia are spazzing over the arrest of a former "journalist" clown
    by the name of Safronov.    

    Of course they claim that the alleged reason for the charges of treason for the leaking of information of about the fighter jet deal with Egypt is some
    sort of crime against humanity.   No it is not.   Even if he was a journalist he still committed treason with his illegal spreading
    of state secrets.

    Cute how the west and its sycophants gets its panties in a bunch over a real traitor but pays only token attention to Julian
    Assange.   The west can't have its cake and eat it too.   If Safronov is such a prime example of human rights abuse, then what
    does that make Assange?

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    Post  PhSt on 16/07/20, 07:57 pm

    NATO is getting desperate, this week they have imposed fresh sanctions against Nord Stream and Turkstream, now they are accusing Russia of hacking their Corona virus research


    Russia is trying to hack and steal coronavirus vaccine data, U.S., Canadian and UK officials claim

    Hackers linked to Russian intelligence services are trying to steal information about coronavirus vaccine research in the U.S., Canada and the U.K., security officials said Thursday.

    Officials said a group known as APT29 — also known as “Cozy Bear” — was likely to blame for the attack. They said the group, which is believed to be associated with Russian intelligence, used spear phishing and custom malware to target vaccine researchers.

    The U.S. Department for Homeland Security, the Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security Agency, the National Security Agency, Canada’s Communications Security Establishment and the U.K.’s National Cyber Security Centre joined forces in accusing Russia of the hacking campaign.


    Simultaneously, they are activating their 5th column agents inside Russia to cause protests


    Hundreds protest in Moscow against reforms that may keep Putin in power

    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Dozens of people were arrested at a protest in Moscow on Wednesday against constitutional reforms that give President Vladimir Putin the option to remain in power for another 16 years, witnesses and a monitoring group said.

    About 500 demonstrators, many of whom wore face masks branded with the word “no”, chanted calls for Putin to resign and held up banners against the reforms.

    Police surrounded them and began making arrests late in the evening after participants started a march down one of the city’s main boulevards, with officers in riot gear forcefully rounding up protesters and placing them in vans.

    As usual, NATO media is making a BIG DEAL of the protester arrests, while protesters in the US and EU are routinely arrested but no one in NATO media bitches about it Rolling Eyes

    Russia needs to HIT back hard on HATO. Make use of all the opportunities presented by Covid 19 to break NATO especially the US, it is the right time for Americans to experience a Soviet style collapse and breakup. There is no room for second thoughts, Russia and China just have to do it to ensure their survival.
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    Post  PapaDragon on 16/07/20, 08:11 pm

    PhSt wrote:...

    Hundreds protest in Moscow against reforms that may keep Putin in power

    Hundreds in the city of 12 million, absolutely groundbreaking

    Add I thought our liberals were a joke...



    PhSt wrote:...
    Russia is trying to hack and steal coronavirus vaccine data, U.S., Canadian and UK officials claim

    Russia is already completing first phase of clinical trials but for some reason they are hacking UK research?

    Methinks that it's more likely that someone is falling behind and risking losingface so they are making excuses preemptively (as shoddy as they seem to be)




    But I do have to give it up for them, European whites are not letting up on jihad against Russia even as the floor is burning away under their feet, that some baller levels of dedication there thumbsup



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    Post  kvs on 16/07/20, 08:43 pm

    Stealing COVID data is hilarious cheeseball propaganda.

    1) Research data is shared around the world by mutual consent of all important medical researchers. The vaccine research
    is being done at universities and not private companies. Private companies will serve to mass produce any viable vaccine.

    2) These western hate propagandists are relying on the ignorance of the average western media consumer sap. There is
    no secret formula to steal. How can you steal information about virus strains without getting your hands on physical
    samples? Dead virus fragments are used to make vaccines. This is just like the lame-ass hackers stole Killary's emails and leaked
    information about the fraud against Bernie to "rig" the US election BS.

    We can see why there is so much denigration of Russian science, medicine and technology. The hater west can pretend every
    advance by Russia is stolen from it. Just like Bolton was claiming that Russian hypersonic weapons were stolen from the USA.
    Really? Even though the US does not even have viable prototypes comparable to any of the "stolen by Russia" technology.

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    Post  miketheterrible on 16/07/20, 08:54 pm

    Population of Moscow was 13M many years ago. It's safe to say Moscow area proper is about 15M and city itself is about 13.5M.

    500 people is a total joke.
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    Post  kvs on 16/07/20, 09:07 pm


    Officials said a group known as APT29 — also known as “Cozy Bear” — was likely to blame for the attack. They said the group, which is believed to be associated with Russian intelligence, used spear phishing and custom malware to target vaccine researchers.

    So they were hacking account passwords via phishing? What a joke. I would never reply to any phish email about an account
    at my place of work since it has no commonality with bank or similar accounts. I know that I will never receive any account
    email from some "admin" for these accounts. In university environments, the "admin" is more than likely someone in your own
    research group. Even if they can phish out some VPN password to reach the university, they still do not have the passwords
    to the computers on the university network.

    Again, electronic spying on vaccine research is inane. The technological devil is in the physical realm of vaccine strains and
    laboratory equipment. The data they can get that is in the form of pre-prints on some lab-associate computer or email is
    already public domain.

    I find it funny how this propaganda is tuned to the expectations of the average Winblows PC users. "Malware". bounce Laughing Laughing Laughing
    The computers that are used to run lab equipment are not even running Winblows but run Linux. Winblows is a consumer
    POS that is not useful for real time data acquisition and direct access to hardware. That latter is why people who design satellite
    instruments still use DOS. DOS allows them direct hardware control. Winblows doesn't. Accessing lab computers is rather
    useless anyway since only the processed data has any value. The hackers are not going to have full control of a lab with
    a computer and lab equipment computers are not the processing nodes for the data.
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    Post  kvs on 16/07/20, 09:10 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Population of Moscow was 13M many years ago. It's safe to say Moscow area proper is about 15M and city itself is about 13.5M.

    500 people is a total joke.

    The massive (over 300,000 people) anti-Iraq war protests in London and other major western cities were ignored by the BBC, CNN, etc.
    But some collection of paid idiots in Russia is supposed to be the manifestation of the will of the Russian people. GTFO.
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    Post  miketheterrible on 16/07/20, 09:15 pm

    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Population of Moscow was 13M many years ago. It's safe to say Moscow area proper is about 15M and city itself is about 13.5M.

    500 people is a total joke.

    The massive (over 300,000 people) anti-Iraq war protests in London and other major western cities were ignored by the BBC, CNN, etc.
    But some collection of paid idiots in Russia is supposed to be the manifestation of the will of the Russian people.   GTFO.

    Doesn't help that some people, even here on this forums, cant do basic math and just regurgitate news as if it's important.

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