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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:22 am

    kvs wrote:It is a provocation designed to trigger Russia to make some move that they will screech about.  
    I think Russia has done enough to secure Kaliningrad.   There is no point of localizing military assets
    there and turning into some sort of fort.   Only idiot western deciders think that would be a
    policy that Russia would pursue since they are all anti-Russian racist turds who project mental
    inferiority onto Russians.  

    Russia will be able to counter any move by NATzO on Kaliningrad brutally fast and effectively.
    NATzO would have to start WWIII to have a chance of seizing this exclave.   But Russia is
    not going to give these lunatics any pretexts.



    poland or any other country attacks Kaliningrad oblast, Russia could easily retaliate and hit objectives in their mainland, not just the launchers used for the attack.

    Already for the situaution in Syria the Russians said that in case of attack against Russian forces there they would not only retaliate against the launchers, but also against the HQ from where the decision was taken.

    In case of an attack against Russian land it would be much worse.


    Furthermore there should be serious consequences for Poland if they do that (e.g. the extreme could be losing the whole of Gdansk Bay until Gdynia, maybe creating a puppet state centered in Danzig called eastern Prussia (without Kaliningrad of course) indirectly under Russian control).

    Danzig/ Gdansk should have remained a free independent port anyway, and not annexed by Poland...

    And if Lithuania participates to this madness they could lose their main access to the sea and the important city of klapeida (the German/Prussian Memel)

    I know that NATO call always for the suwalski gap (a sort of land bridge between Bielorussia and Kaliningrad oblast centered in the polish town of Suwalski, near the Lithuanian border) but I am not sure if Russia is really interested in it.

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    Post  elconquistador Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:59 am

    What's the angle here?

    Any attack on Russian territory means all out war. The fact that it's an 'exclave' is totally irrelevant. There are no 'limited operations' when you take things this far.

    Which means Mutually Assured Destruction
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    Post  franco Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:54 am

    Supposedly from a staff exercise of the Polish Army in regards to military action with Kaliningrad. thumbsup

    https://wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/porazka-polskiej-armii-w-symulowanej-wojnie-cwiczenia-wykazaly-kleske-w-piec-dni/pmh647s?utm_source=t.co_viasg_wiadomosci&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=leo_automatic&srcc=ucs&utm_v=2

    attack

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    Post  Hole Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:36 pm

    If they want to take out the S-400 systems they have to destroy all Pantsir/Buk/Tor/Tunguska/Strela-10 systems, too. Plus all fighter jets in Kaliningrad and the north-western regions of Russia (at least). Good luck with that.

    While western aircraft would fall out of the sky as burning pieces of scrap metal the Iskanders and Kaliber cruise missiles fired from Baltic Fleet ships and subs would destroy the airbases and the rear of the "advancing" enemy forces. Smerch/Tornado-S systems would annihilate the enemy forces at the front line together with ATGM´s fired from helos and vehicles.

    Then it would really get ugly for the western forces. Parts of the 1. Guards Tank Army would move trough Belarus into north-eastern Poland and into the three baltic piglets to free the poeple there from there oppressors. Wink

    At this point it´s the western leaders who would have to decide if Warsaw and Vilnius are worth more then New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston... I bet that at this point the leaders of Amerikanistan will opt out. They will declare that it was all the Poles fault and that their regional military commanders had to help the poor little Pole against the evil Russkies. Sorry. See you later...

    End of the "fast and furious" attack on Kaliningrad.

    Good night and good luck the next time. Very Happy

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    Post  GarryB Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:16 am

    I am sure any major and swift attack by HATO on Kaliningrad would be noticed by Moscow and the launch of a few weapons at the staging areas with payloads measured in kilotons would suffice to blunt such an attack and make it stop in its tracks.

    Even just 152mm shells or 300mm rockets could deliver some surprises... but I would say rather than build up military forces in that region I would probably smash down some of those historical German architecture buildings and build some really solid bunkers for the local people to hunker down in while the surrounding countries are nuked back to the stone age.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:56 pm

    Normalising #AlQaeda.

    Just returned from three days in Idlib, Syria with Abu Muhammad al Jolani, founder of al Qaeda affiliate Jabhat al Nusra. He spoke candidly about 9/11, AQ, Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, ISIS, America and more. Reporting for @frontlinepbs photo @ScottAnger #HTS #Idlib #ISIS #alqaeda
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    https://twitter.com/Martin28Smith/status/1356621851984863240

    https://twitter.com/VanessaBeeley/status/1357216603289628672

    To put it in better perspective.
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    https://twitter.com/EndiZentarmi/status/1356733158876721152

    Imagine sitting calmly and candidly with a guy who permitted countless rapes of women and children, chattel slavery, and public beheadings. clown clown clown clown clown clown

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    Post  GarryB Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:47 am

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend leads to disgusting whoring around...
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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:31 pm



    Jimmy Dore mentions that the US news agencies are seeing massive drops in view even though many of them just talk about "navalny navalny navalny (repeat)"

    Its funny how even in the US they are calling all the media out.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:41 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Normalising #AlQaeda.

    Just returned from three days in Idlib, Syria with Abu Muhammad al Jolani, founder of al Qaeda affiliate Jabhat al Nusra. He spoke candidly about 9/11, AQ, Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, ISIS, America and more. Reporting for @frontlinepbs photo @ScottAnger #HTS #Idlib #ISIS #alqaeda
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    https://twitter.com/Martin28Smith/status/1356621851984863240

    https://twitter.com/VanessaBeeley/status/1357216603289628672

    To put it in better perspective.
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    https://twitter.com/EndiZentarmi/status/1356733158876721152

    Imagine sitting calmly and candidly with a guy who permitted countless rapes of women and children, chattel slavery, and public beheadings. clown clown clown clown clown clown

    AlShitsmeera outfits in a nutshell:
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:08 pm

    Remember this bullshit pandemic preparedness infographic?
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    Well it turns out the least prepared nation, Equatorial Guinea was actually better prepared than the most prepared nation. Top to bottom the infographic is a mountain of bullshit!!! lmao!!! lol1  lol1  lol1  clown  clown  clown
    Can confirm that Equatorial Guinea has fared significantly better than the 'best prepared country'. 11 cases per week vs. 141,000 cases per week.
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    https://twitter.com/OVargas52/status/1356989362613944321

    11 cases per week (EG) vs 141 thousand cases per week (US)

    Equatorial Guinea's population is 1.4 million

    US population is 328 million

    US population is only 234x larger but it's cases are 12,818x greater....far surpassing what difference population size makes lmao!!!!! Embarassed  Razz  lol1  clown  pwnd

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    Post  GarryB Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:30 pm

    Which proves blind guesses as to how prepared you are before a real pandemic actually happens (ie the chart is from 2019) can make you look very very foolish and you don't need to wait ten years for that to be apparent.

    In terms of medical facilities, and certainly biotech labs scattered around the world, the US should certainly be the best prepared... if they were actually working towards protecting humanity from outbreaks... but they clearly are not and are actually likely testing bio weapons they hope to unleash in some future time scale...

    But with a highly contagious disease you need a population that will follow instructions and wear masks and will self isolate and also close international travel and borders to contain any local outbreaks that might have slipped through before you started taking action... deal with those who have caught the disease and ensure they don't spread it to non infected people.

    It is vastly easier to do that in an island nation with a small population... I mean they closed schools in the UK but didn't close their borders... what did they think was going to happen?

    You all know that in 3 years time there will be a sudden outbreak of antibiotic resistant bacteria, because people in the west are going to use anti bacteria spray 20 times a day on themselves and 100 times a day on their children who they already cover in cotton wool to keep them safe...
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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:39 am

    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-journalistic-tattletale-and-censorship

    But this is now the prevailing ethos in corporate journalism. They have insufficient talent or skill, and even less desire, to take on real power centers: the military-industrial complex, the CIA and FBI, the clandestine security state, Wall Street, Silicon Valley monopolies, the corrupted and lying corporate media outlets they serve. So settling on this penny-ante, trivial bullshit — tattling, hall monitoring, speech policing: all in the most anti-intellectual, adolescent and primitive ways — is all they have. It’s all they are. It’s why they have fully earned the contempt and distrust in which the public holds them.

    The western fake stream media is now damaging the countries which host it. This is what you get for paying hacks to
    blood libel countries and peoples who do not bend the knee to your imperial agenda.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:47 pm

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    ^^^^That article aged well! clown pwnd clown pwnd I'm sure ISIS captives get to democratically vote how they'll be raped, tortured, and beheaded! Rolling Eyes

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    Post  kvs Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:28 pm

    https://twitter.com/BBCYaldaHakim/status/1359905060570996740

    China has banned the BBC. A good start and Russia should start thinking about penalizing NATzO hate propaganda
    outlets.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:24 pm

    kvs wrote:https://twitter.com/BBCYaldaHakim/status/1359905060570996740

    China has banned the BBC.   A good start and Russia should start thinking about penalizing NATzO hate propaganda
    outlets.


    I actually think quite the opposite is needed. Instead of banning Western media, make it easier to access.

    What I'm suggesting is that they should completely repeal all forms of law enforcement concerning filesharing. Let Russia be the hub of filesharing, and punish Western media corporations by having them lose tens of billions per year with Russia being the filesharing Stalingrad.

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    Post  elconquistador Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:39 am



    Interesting video. Intersectional feminism is gnawing at the core foundations of Islam. They use the usual powerful linguistic tools at their disposals: redefining what things mean by using their power to construct institutional narratives

    Interesting to see where this will go. 5 years ago I was sure that Islam would conquer the Left (in their provisional alliance) but now I am starting to doubt.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:20 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    kvs wrote:https://twitter.com/BBCYaldaHakim/status/1359905060570996740

    China has banned the BBC.   A good start and Russia should start thinking about penalizing NATzO hate propaganda
    outlets.


    I actually think quite the opposite is needed. Instead of banning Western media, make it easier to access.

    What I'm suggesting is that they should completely repeal all forms of law enforcement concerning filesharing. Let Russia be the hub of filesharing, and punish Western media corporations by having them lose tens of billions per year with Russia being the filesharing Stalingrad.

    This.

    Russia could really put a massive nail in the western coffin by allowing people to share the western software for free. This would cause billions in losses and Russia loses nothing. Instead, if they word it correctly, they can be viewed as saviors in the open source community
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    Post  kvs Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:06 pm



    An example of straight talk from Lavrov being twisted by the western fake stream media into "threats". So
    the idea that Russian can get its message out to the west is a non starter. Westerners are going to have
    to take the initiative to read English Russian sources and not consume the excrement from their own
    "free and unbiased" media. That is not going to happen especially in this day and age of safe space
    adult babies who are afraid of facts that make them uncomfortable.

    They say that truth is the first casualty of war. But that is not the whole story. Rational thinking dies
    before war can get started. People enter a spasm of hysteria and they can't absorb the truth in this
    state.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:57 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    LMFS wrote:A candid admission by Michael Kofman of Russia Military Analysis, credit to him for speaking the truth  thumbsup

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    https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1354787377143808005/photo/1
    For those of us who have started studying military technology without an engineering background.

    (Limited to the air domain for practical reasons)
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    https://twitter.com/Mauro_Gilli/status/1355105798016397315

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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:52 pm



    So the EU fake stream media is spazzing over Borrell's visit to Russia. Lavrov pointed out the brazen
    double standards of the self-anointed human rights arbiters. For example, Spain's repression of Catalan independence
    activists and suppression of mass protests after the annulling of the legal referendum on independence.
    So the EU has no case against Russia for dealing with the illegal demonstration scamming by 5th column Navalny
    who together with his associates has never ever conformed to protest permit stipulations and always went
    for the street blocking theater. Lavrov not taking BS from EU-slimes has deeply offended the EU media lie
    factory which is trying to paint the actions of Lavrov as "humiliation of Borrell and the EU". In other words,
    "How dare anyone go against our claims and not bend the knee to our dictates."

    In typical hate propaganda fashion, the EU lie factory hacks yap about how Russia went on a power trip
    with its "humiliation". They even try to make Borrell a fall guy for failing to "stand up to the Russians".
    You fucking mutts should stay on your paws and not to try to walk on your hind legs. You haven't evolved
    enough.



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    Post  Hole Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:26 pm

    Comment from Patrick Armstrong: I am sick and tired of EU flunkeys posturing about “European values”; if it weren’t for the USSR – 80% – and the Anglosphere – 20% – they’d all be goose-stepping around in leather giving each other Hitler salutes: Hitler, Franco, Mussolini and the rest of them were all Europeans).

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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:15 pm

    Hole wrote:Comment from Patrick Armstrong: I am sick and tired of EU flunkeys posturing about “European values”; if it weren’t for the USSR – 80% – and the Anglosphere – 20% – they’d all be goose-stepping around in leather giving each other Hitler salutes: Hitler, Franco, Mussolini and the rest of them were all Europeans).

    They would all be US-UK colonies. Hitler was a tool.

    In the video I posted above, some German analyst is ragging on Russia's "wrong doing" which includes Libya and Syria.
    So EU sanctions are meant to stop Russian "badness" in Libya. So Russia not supporting the ISIS clones is now bad.
    And remind me again who screwed Libya up? Oh that's right Killary and Obummer.

    Yes, indeed, the dementia in the EU is terminal.

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    Post  nomadski Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:07 am

    This message is for all Muslim and Middle Eastern people, regarding the recent news from Western sources about  " maltreatment" of Chinese Muslims, in education camps.

    Although any abuse can and does take place, when large numbers of people are concerned,  I can certainly say that  the policy  of China towards Muslims, is not discriminatory or result of ethnic discrimination. It simply is an effort to bring social harmony and unity to a large and diverse population.

    I can say this because, China recently also brought in rules for young Hong Kong students curriculum, allowing for a more China centric viewpoint. Again an attempt to bring harmony to a diverse population. Therefore there is no distinction by ethnicity.

    The Muslims in the world should support Chinese efforts to fight extremism and welcome the progressive measures by China, in teaching Chinese language and moderate practice of religion.

    They should ignore western propaganda, aimed at causing problems between Muslim nations and China.

    Long live China.
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    Post  kvs Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:48 pm



    After China banned BBC propaganda inside its borders, the NATzO west started bunching its panties and screeching.
    It turns out that the UK banned the Chinese national broadcaster on its soil first.   But you see that is not repression
    of free speech, it is "unrelated" to the same action by China.   The BBC used blue-green filters on the video it reported
    from China to make things look more gloomy and dour.

    When Russia penalizes Radio Free Europe for brazenly violating Russian laws about identification of foreign sponsored
    information agents, that is "Russia repressing free speech".   But it is OK for YouCrap and NATzO based social media
    to fully censor any dissenting voices through deplatforming and publication bans (*).   Again, because "that is totally
    unrelated" to the "real oppression" in Russia.

    (*) Dissident voices have zero access to the NATzO mainstream media, so this is not a boutique sideshow. This is
    core repression of free expression.

    Get fucked you bloody hypocrite trash.

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    Post  Hole Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:40 pm

    While we are talking about "free speech":
    https://www.stalkerzone.org/latvia-started-using-equipment-for-monitoring-views-of-russian-language-sites/

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