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kvs Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:48 pm

The NATzO fake stream media is jumping the shark for the Nth time. The New York Times is claiming that Putin has undermined
US science and medicine. They actually attribute all the tin foil hat clowns such as the anti-vaccine loons to Putin. Really.
Funny how I have been seeing such alt-medicine and anti-government-science BS since the 1980s. Putin must be a time
traveler.

One of the prime claims by NYT lie peddlers is that Putin spread information about the US doing virus engineering for assorted
purposes. So Putin must have been responsible for this article in Nature:

https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787

Then the NYT trots out a gem of inane circular logic. Supposedly Putin himself spread false information that the US medical
system is crap (what was his motive? Russia is not peddling its variant as superior, it is the USA that is always bleating about
its superiority) so now that the system has shown its failings, it's Putin's fault. Americans are indeed imbeciles if they swallow
such garbage. Even Baron Munchausen lifting himself and his horse out of the swamp by pulling on his pony tail is more credible
than this tail chasing inanity.

And the cherry on top of this turd cake is that RT is the source of this super-effective brainwashing of the gullible yanqui masses.
Here we see how much the NYT loves freedom of information. They actually claim that Lindsey Graham's appearance on RT is
Putin's propaganda. Yanquis are only supposed to get officially approved information like good little totalitarian proles.

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kvs Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:41 am

Some yanqui pundit finally admits the obvious, that sanctions against Russia are failing. Of course, being the usual western
hater retard he proceeds to call for new ways to coerce Russia "to behave". Take a look in the mirror you exceptionalist f*ck.
It is the rogue state USA that needs to be contained and made to play by international rules and respect human rights.
No, supporting jihadi terrorist vermin in Syria to bring down an elected and popular government is not "spreading of democracy"
just as it wasn't in Iran in 1953 or Latin America where the USA installed one death squad junta after another. The same
pattern was repeated in Indonesia and other parts of the world.

Yanquis claiming they are do-gooders is contradicted by a vast array of empirical evidence.

Anyway, this sad f*ck goes on about how Putin has created a "fortress" out of Russia at the sacrifice of economic growth.
Stick to other parts of your moronic hate narrative you imbecile. Russia's GDP is growing and is also restructuring for
sustained growth via import substitution and elimination of Yeltsin era comprador distortions. Yeltsin left a slew of
colonial legal obligations that have been choking Russia's development. His destruction of the Russian economy with
shock therapy witch-doctor voodoo in the 1990s resulted on excessive import dependence in Russia that directly reduced
its GDP and its sovereignty.

As I pointed out before, the massive foreign debt pay-down which is ongoing is directly reducing the GDP growth rate.
In the real world this shrinking of foreign debt is a plus for Russia's GDP. But in the BS world of GDP accounting it is
considered a reduction in GDP. Naturally, the accounting is ludicrous. Any GDP growth has to be evaluated by actual
production and consumption and not by assuming that production and consumption is reduced directly by debt repayment.
So all you yanqui "analists", don't wank yourself silly thinking that Russia's GDP is not growing. If it wasn't, then Russian
wages would not be increasing over 6% per year. And Covid-19 is an exogenous shock affecting the whole planet and
is thus irrelevant to discussion of Putin and Russia.

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kvs Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:36 am

Remember all the bitching about the supposed "extermination" of stray dogs before the Shochi Olympics? Well,
a German zoo is going to start feeding zoo animals to each other since it is losing money due to Covid-19. Not
a squeak from the self-anointed animal rights defenders.

BTW, the so-called dog extermination in Sochi never happened and the scum spreading the blood libel were
using photos from a Ukrainian anti-stray campaign to "prove" their claims. Much like the Ukr Holodomor
fraudsters use images from the 1920s civil war famine on the Volga.

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magnumcromagnon Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:38 am

kvs wrote:

Remember all the bitching about the supposed "extermination" of stray dogs before the Shochi Olympics? Well,
a German zoo is going to start feeding zoo animals to each other since it is losing money due to Covid-19. Not
a squeak from the self-anointed animal rights defenders.

BTW, the so-called dog extermination in Sochi never happened and the scum spreading the blood libel were
using photos from a Ukrainian anti-stray campaign to "prove" their claims. Much like the Ukr Holodomor
fraudsters use images from the 1920s civil war famine on the Volga.

Peta euthanizes countless stray dogs and cats....not a word from those viralmentalists about that.

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nomadski Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:06 pm

The westerners are masters of blood sport. Other people's blood. Divide and rule, is their continued tactic. The British media. The BBC. I was listening to Radio BBC. They explained the great battles between the " despotic" and
" dictatorial Muslim" regimes, and their " unjust" oppression of socialists ! Oh yes, the Imperialists now support socialists ! Here you must notice, how they mix the reactionary right wing elements, that they themselves support, with the Muslim religion. Or even progressive Muslim groups. The British and their children, the Yanks never stop. Always divide and rule. Brother killing brother. Until they put their man into power.

So it is for all of us, not to get confused. Not to allow fights between revolutionary camps. Socialists and progressive Muslims unite. Fight the evil British. Do not feed on each other's flesh. In their Zoo. I spit on BBC.

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kvs Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:07 pm

nomadski wrote:The westerners are masters of blood sport. Other people's blood. Divide and rule, is their continued tactic. The British media. The BBC. I was listening to Radio BBC. They explained the great battles between the " despotic" and
" dictatorial Muslim" regimes, and their " unjust" oppression of socialists ! Oh yes, the Imperialists now support socialists ! Here you must notice, how they mix the reactionary right wing elements, that they themselves support, with the Muslim religion. Or even progressive Muslim groups. The British and their children, the Yanks never stop. Always divide and rule. Brother killing brother. Until they put their man into power.

So it is for all of us, not to get confused. Not to allow fights between revolutionary camps. Socialists and progressive Muslims unite. Fight the evil British. Do not feed on each other's flesh. In their Zoo. I spit on BBC.

10000000% in agreement. Everywhere the Anglos have stuck their noses has left strife and genocide. Consider the Tamils and the Hindus.
The British co-opted the Tamils as their proxies and thus created long term strife with the oppressed Hindus. The British did the same thing
in North America. They co-opted the Iroquois aboriginals against the French Canada which resulted in the genocide of the Huron people.
These vermin have been trying to stage the same in Russia for centuries. They have succeeded in the case of Ukraine. After WWII
Ukrainian Nazis were trained in British military camps as insurgents against the USSR. I knew one such Ukrainian personally (no he was
not some friend but an acquaintance of the family) and he was not making it up. The succoring of the Banderite strain of the Ukrainian
"nationalism" has been in the USA and Canada. These are the vermin who rule Ukraine today.

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GarryB Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:35 am

It is currently Anzac day here in NZ so I woke up at just before 6am and sat in bed and watched a video I had on my tablet about Stalingrad.

It showed interviews with surviving Soviets and Germans, and talked about the German soldiers going mad and practising cannibalism... it also mentioned when the Germans were taken away to camps that the Soviets were surprised... they expected 80,000 but there were three or four times that many taken into captivity and at that stage of the war they barely had the resources to feed and clothe their own people so the food options did not improve in captivity if you know what I mean.

This documentary was a Russian documentary translated into English for the western market, but having watched British documentaries on the eastern front I can honestly say when they mentioned cannibalism in Leningrad and other places they didn't mention the people responsible were driven mad and often had the choice to survive and eat what was available or to die and they chose to survive... a sort of Bear Gryls type mentality.

To be clear once the horses had been eaten the Soviet civilians trapped in Stalingrad had to stop asking where the meat came from too because as the lady interviewed said after the horses it was the dogs... and then the cats... and she said that with clear shame in her voice... because as she said the cats and dogs came to the people for protection from the cold... and the violence and noise of battle... eventually there were not pets left to eat... a terrible situation to be in...

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kvs Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:22 am

GarryB wrote:It is currently Anzac day here in NZ so I woke up at just before 6am and sat in bed and watched a video I had on my tablet about Stalingrad.

It showed interviews with surviving Soviets and Germans, and talked about the German soldiers going mad and practising cannibalism... it also mentioned when the Germans were taken away to camps that the Soviets were surprised... they expected 80,000 but there were three or four times that many taken into captivity and at that stage of the war they barely had the resources to feed and clothe their own people so the food options did not improve in captivity if you know what I mean.

This documentary was a Russian documentary translated into English for the western market, but having watched British documentaries on the eastern front I can honestly say when they mentioned cannibalism in Leningrad and other places they didn't mention the people responsible were driven mad and often had the choice to survive and eat what was available or to die and they chose to survive... a sort of Bear Gryls type mentality.

To be clear once the horses had been eaten the Soviet civilians trapped in Stalingrad had to stop asking where the meat came from too because as the lady interviewed said after the horses it was the dogs... and then the cats... and she said that with clear shame in her voice... because as she said the cats and dogs came to the people for protection from the cold... and the violence and noise of battle... eventually there were not pets left to eat... a terrible situation to be in...

There was a serious food shortage across the USSR in 1942 and that is when the gulag death rate hit is peak (20% of the inmates). This one time
peak was used in NATzO propaganda to claim that every year 20% of gulag inmates died from the 1930s to the 1950s. This BS claim is one of the
"sources" for the millions of dead at the hands of the commies lies still being spread around today. It is just as nonsensical as the claim that 14
million "Ukrainians" died during the Holodomor. (That would be close to half of Ukraine's population based on pre-revolutionary census data which
agrees with Soviet census data from the 1920s.).

I recall a series of Time-Life books on the war where they noted that 20% of Germans died in soviet POW camps. This was presented as Soviet
evil. The same hate propaganda BS. The Nazis made sure that 3.3 million Soviet POWs died in captivity by either death through exposure or
sending them to the ovens first in Auschwitz. Auschwitz was build by Soviet POW slave labour which was then processed by the facility.

Today it is popular in NATzO to make an equivalence between Nazi Germany and the USSR. This is pure guilt transfer. The Nazis were engaged
in all sorts of depravity against civilians and POWs (like the Japs in China) but in the USSR these same butchers were not being exterminated
in death camps and were being housed and fed when the food was available. If there was not food shortage in the USSR in 1942, there
would be much fewer than 20% German POW deaths in Soviet captivity. The fault for these deaths lies with Nazi Germany and not the USSR
for obvious reasons.

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magnumcromagnon Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:52 am

Notice who and how the BBC reports Covid-19 news? Wink

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Fun Fact: London is probably the most surveilled city in the world.....With that being considered, the BBC can deep throat a stick of dynamite and have a blast!!! Embarassed

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kvs Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:33 am

This is an IQ test for the NATzO sheeple and they are failing it badly. Being told two contradictory stories from the same news
source at the same time and swallowing them up is utterly pathetic. But the educations system in the west has been corrupted
with PC culture so this idiocy is par for the course.

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kvs Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:17 pm

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/486483-russia-uk-us-media-coronavirus/

Excellent op-ed on the NATzO MSM propaganda campaign against Russia over Covid-19. We see the pathetic
projection of all the failings of the NATzO medical systems on Russia.

In addition to the above I would like to point out that the daily infection rate in Russia appears
to have maxed out at five times less than in the USA. And the daily death rate has
been hovering under 65 in Russia compared to around 2000 in the USA. The difference between the two
is that Russia's Covid-19 progression is happening in Russia with a lag of about two to three weeks
compared to the USA.

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magnumcromagnon Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:31 pm

CNN fails yet again!

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PhSt Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:38 am

NATO is taking this opportunity to bring down Putin, derail his political reforms and breakup Russia. The Russian government needs to act quickly and counter NATO's brazen hostilities.

Russians’ Trust in Putin Hits 14-Year Low – State Poll

Russians’ trust in President Vladimir Putin has fallen to a 14-year low, the state-funded VTsIOM polling agency said Monday.

The latest poll results come as Russian authorities — and Putin in particular — have faced criticism for their response to the coronavirus pandemic, which many see as providing insufficient support to businesses and workers. Before the coronavirus hit Russia, Putin had been pursuing a series of constitutional amendments that would allow him to stay president until 2036.

Just 28.3% of Russians surveyed by VTsIOM in March named Putin when asked to name a politician whom they trust, the lowest percentage since the pollster began asking the question in January 2006.

Valery Fyodorov, the head of VTsIOM, told Forbes Russia that respondents are more likely to say they trust Putin if asked the question in multiple-choice format rather than the “open-ended” format that VTsIOM normally uses.

For example, when asked to give a yes-or-no answer to whether or not they trust Putin in April, 69.8% of respondents said yes, he said.

“The open-ended question is more about memory and information activity than about trust, unfortunately,” Fyodorov said. “In general, I would stop asking this question at all, but if I stop asking it, they will start suspecting me of some terrible things.”

In its May 2019 survey, VTsIOM said that trust in Putin had reached a 13-year low of 31.7%. Following criticism from the Kremlin, VTsIOM said it would change its polling methodology, and its revised results showed trust in Putin skyrocket to 72.3%.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/04/28/russians-trust-in-putin-hits-14-year-low-state-poll-a70128

NATO bots are busy even on Youtube to down vote Putin videos to make an impression that he is becoming less popular.

TV Zvezda videos RARELY get more down votes than positive ones, but this video of Putin surprisingly got a lot of negative votes. I'm sure NATO bots is behind this pathetic smear campaign. Russia needs to give NATO a powerful slap in the face. A strong retaliation needs to be in order.

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kvs Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:14 am

The events of 2011 demonstrated that NATzO regime change tricks don't work. If there was all this discontent and dislike for
Putin, then there would have been large protests easily organized by Navalny and other trash. But they simply can't get a
mob onto the street. Thus they have failed.

And if you look at support numbers for western leaders they swing from around 60% to 20% or less. Nobody loses office because
of mid-term opinion polls. The only things that matter are elections. Navalny ain't no alternative to Putin.

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kvs Sun May 03, 2020 9:55 pm

NATzO propaganda orifices have gone into high gear to smear Russian nuclear power. This is a transparent attempt to
sabotage a business competitor and to establish a new US-centered monopoly on nuclear power around the world.
So we have the "Chernobyl" series which is an attempt to solidify in the brainwashed minds around the world that
1986 USSR = 2020 Russia and that any system failure 34 years ago is going to happen now as well. Of course,
the fact that RBMK reactors are not being exported by Russia and that its VVR-1200 reactors are generation 3+
is totally ignored. Then we have the sock puppet "environmentalists" like the clowns that are attacking the Russian
construction of a reactor in Finland while totally ignoring another reactor being built by western companies that
is located much closer to Sweden. These fake environmentalists are also crapping all over the Academic Lomonosov
floating power plant which Russia is negotiating to export to over a dozen countries. Yet again, transparent
sabotage of Russian business. These lying sacks of shit make up all sorts of lies about the design of Russian
reactors without a shred of proof or actual knowledge.

Anyway, yanqui dirty tricks are pathetic. They are at least 40 years behind since they do not have fuel reprocessing
technology. It will take them a good 20 years just to revitalize their domestic industry since they do not have any
engineers that can design and build new plants as they are all retired or dead. So by 2040 the USA will a good 60
years behind Russia, which is moving to closed fuel cycle fast neutron breeder reactors.

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magnumcromagnon Mon May 04, 2020 4:55 pm

magnumcromagnon wrote:Kim is still alive, surprise!

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magnumcromagnon Mon May 04, 2020 4:59 pm

And they claim Federation media twists and spins Covid-19 news! Embarassed

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kvs Tue May 05, 2020 8:06 pm

DW has given a fake news "journalist" (Elena Milashina) who wrote a purely fabricated hate piece about the Covid-19 situation in Chechnya
an award for freedom of speech. Yeah, in Germany they are openly considering putting people who spread non-conformant
information about Covid-19 into psychiatric institutions, but obvious strife-generating agit-prop in Russia is "free speech".
Clearly the Orwellian rot in the precious west is in an advanced state.

Milashina claimed that people were being repressed by forced quarantine at home. (That in itself is absurd, two weeks of home
stay is hardly Gulag time). But she left out a critical detail in her one-point curve extrapolation that the specific individuals
who were "forced" into home quarantine broke voluntary quarantine and attended mass gathering events. During pandemics
such behaviour is worthy of shoot-on-sight and not just "forced" quarantine.

The above summarizes the nature of NATzO anti-Russian propaganda. Even the most benign events are twisted into to some
sort of "nightmare of oppression" BS. Like we had with Pussy Riot. That these retarded chimps were slapped on the wrist
on a dozen occasions with $17 fines was ignored and only when they really crossed the line and got jail time did they become
martyrs of "Putin's oppression". Try to pull such stunts in the west and you will get hard jail time after a couple of tries.
Contempt of court and police are serious crimes in the west. But in Russia they are supposed to be some sort of right.
Of course, since the west wants regime change in Russia. This is why Russia should stop pandering to the west and
throw the full weight of the law on seditionist perps including "journalists" such as Milashina. She can do her hate fiction prose
writing from jail or from outside Russia.

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magnumcromagnon Thu May 07, 2020 12:12 am

Looks like the NY Slimes engaged in plagiarism:

"Russian journalist Roman Badanin, of
@wwwproektmedia , says the @nytimes 'Pulitzer Prize' winning stories ripped off his team's investigations- published months earlier - on the subject (Evgeny Prigozhin in Africa) and didn't give his outlet any credit."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1104335573255387&id=100010368634687

https://twitter.com/27khv/status/1257568197588508673

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kvs Thu May 07, 2020 5:12 am

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putins-approval-rating-hits-historic-low-3-cabinet-members-infected

Putin's "historic low" rating is 59%.

attack

Do these morons even read what they write. Support collapse usually means numbers under 20%. For example,
Yeltsin had about 2% in 1996.

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kvs Thu May 07, 2020 7:09 pm

Facebook is now banning accounts that post photographs of the famous planting of the Soviet flag on the
Reichstag.

Revisionism in action.

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Hole Thu May 07, 2020 9:19 pm

I guess murican flag on Iwo Jima is OK.

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kvs Thu May 07, 2020 9:37 pm

Hole wrote:I guess murican flag on Iwo Jima is OK.

Of course, according to the revisionist BS being pushed by NATzO, it was the USA and the UK that won WWII. All that the USSR (called
Russia by NATzO degenerates) did was take over eastern Europe to impose a totalitarian nightmare worse than anything Hitler ever did or
planned.

NATzO's main revisionist propaganda talking points include the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and the supposed "partition of Poland"
and Khatyn. In 1920 when Poland invaded the USSR and actually seized control of Kiev in May the west did not make a single squeak.
But when the Soviet army started to kick their asses out, all of the sudden the west became concerned. Thanks to its 1920
invasion Poland grabbed a large chunk of Ukraine and Belorus. In 1939, the USSR restored legitimate authority over these annexed
territories. So much for the "partition of Poland" BS.

In 1938, we had the Munich conference where the west (UK, France, and their pals) sold Czechoslovakia to Hitler and Poland.
It grabbed the Teshin region of Czechoslovakia when Hitler grabbed the Sudeten. Poland also had a non-agression pact with the
Reich but it and Poland's land grabs are systematically ignored in NATzO propaganda. Poland was in such a tizzy after the Munich
conference that its ambassador to France wrote to the American ambassador that it was the start of a holy war on Bolshevism
and that Poland would fight shoulder to shoulder with the Reich against the USSR. The idiots never read Mein Kampf apparently.

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kvs Sat May 09, 2020 3:08 am

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ny-times-accused-ripping-pulitzer-prize-winning-stories-russian-journalists-2nd-time

The New York Times rips off the stories of the Russian 5th column "press" and gets Pulitzers for it. Rolling Eyes

But that is what 5th columnists get for their services: a nice reaming and then disposal.

Also, one has to admire the hypocrisy of these turds. Russia "meddling" abroad being some big news in the "foreign meddling central"
is so thick and rich you can build a house on it.

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The New York Times rips

magnumcromagnon Sat May 09, 2020 8:04 am

kvs wrote:https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ny-times-accused-ripping-pulitzer-prize-winning-stories-russian-journalists-2nd-time

The New York Times rips off the stories of the Russian 5th column "press" and gets Pulitzers for it.
But that is what 5th columnists get for their services: a nice reaming and then disposal.

Also, one has to admire the hypocrisy of these turds. Russia "meddling" abroad being some big news in the "foreign meddling central"
is so thick and rich you can build a house on it.

These liberastholes never learn their lesson...Just like Nemtsov, when he outlived his usefulness he was liquidated just to make him in to martyr for HATO causes. Embarassed

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