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    Post  kvs on Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:02 am

    Nope, "stone" is utterly retarded and indicates that NATzO thinks of Russians as cavemen or mud hut dwellers.

    Trying to fob this off by claiming that Iskander or Sarmat are "bad" is retarded. Not surprising from a NATzO bootlick.

    Stick to extolling Musk.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:15 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:...Yeah they did the same with the Kamov Ka-50-2 "Erdogan", but that all happened after Boorish Yelpsin's 'free-market' reforms.

    Yeah, that's why I said they should stop using the testament to poverty and humiliation and give it proper name

    Unless they miss 90's or something...

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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:21 am

    kvs wrote:Nope, "stone" is utterly retarded and indicates that NATzO thinks of Russians as cavemen or mud hut dwellers...

    Hey, another decade at that pace and those concrete boxes would ha collapsed into being caves so Americans were definitely on the money back when SS-26 was getting a name

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    As for population in the 90's it's better if I don't post photos of that abomination... affraid


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    Post  GarryB on Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:42 am

    The effectiveness of propaganda is not in its veracity. Its in its repetition.

    The problem is that western propaganda gets everywhere and the majority of the general western public don't bother going further than Fox or CNN or the BBC for their news, so they don't see the constant spin and bullshit.

    Let HATO attack Russia... we will see how that goes...

    Hopefully the same as usual...

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:17 am

    What is with all the butt hurt PD?

    ...Yeah they did the same with the Kamov Ka-50-2 "Erdogan", but that all happened after Boorish Yelpsin's 'free-market' reforms.

    The Ka-50-2 was a special variant specifically designed to meet Turkeys requirements... no one else was expected to buy it so it made sense to call it that...

    Stone is infinitely superior than Iskander which is a dumbass Arab/Turk word for Alexander and which was used by dead broke Still-Soviets-Not-Yet-Russians when they were begging for money and hoping that Turkey would finance the whole thing

    Turks of course told them to take their panhandling elsewhere

    If Russians had any dignity they would have changed the name long ago instead of still using this testament to poverty and humiliation

    Do you have any proof of this?

    Because I am unaware of any Iskander version with a flight range of 300km so they could not have exported it to Turkey even if they wanted it...
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:14 pm

    GarryB wrote:What is with all the butt hurt PD?...

    What butthurt?

    I was just replying to kvs' fresh rant

    All Russian missiles get NATO name which starts with 'S' this is not news

    It's not American fault that Russia sucks a giving names to it's own equipment and that even names randomly selected by NATO paper pushers still sound infinitely better than ones selected by people who designed the actual thing

    And Stone definitely sounds far superior to Iskander

    I mean did someone put copyright claim on word Alexander?

    When Serbs design MRAP we call it Lazar not Suleiman the Magnificent



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    Post  GarryB on Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:54 am

    The western names given to Russian gear are crap, and usually meant to be nasty and disrespectful.

    Amusing you say you like the western name and then complain about the Russian name being inappropriate...

    Perhaps we could start naming western systems... the only problem is that they would need double names to differentiate... so Patriot PAC-2 could be Useless censored , while the F-35 could be Expensive censored  and Ford class carriers could be Broken censored , and Commanche could be Cancelled censored .

    Hey... this is fun...  Twisted Evil

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    Post  LMFS on Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:13 pm

    Why Hasn’t Russia Collapsed Yet, And When Will It Happen?

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    https://www.stalkerzone.org/why-hasnt-russia-collapsed-yet-and-when-will-it-happen/

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    Post  kvs on Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:24 pm

    This is a common feature of empires, including NATzO. They have a court of yes-men that only sing the right songs. So
    all of the pro-NATzO elements spread BS that is pure NATzO wishful thinking and desired outcomes. You can see this bootlick
    behaviour in both the EIA and IEA and of course from Daniel "Jerking" Yergin and his inane and systematic mis-forecasts of
    oil price and supply. That these jesters are not right has no impact on their continuing employment as the maintainers
    of imperial delusions.

    The Russian 5th column is part of this court of jesters. At least jesters tried to introduce inconvenient facts via humour
    if they actually served their purpose. So I am making the wrong analogy. Yes-men bootlickers is more appropriate.

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:36 am

    Why Hasn’t Russia Collapsed Yet, And When Will It Happen

    Would work better with a more realistic map showing oil and gas fields, gold and diamond deposits and known areas where lithium and palladium and other rare metals are to be found.... as that shows what they are actually dividing up...
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    Post  kvs on Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:08 pm

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-treasury-breached-sophisticated-hacking-group-backed-foreign-government-report

    Pure propaganda. This BS is designed to keep the sheeple frightened of the "hacker threat". No serious details. Basically this
    could be some script kiddies managing to hack an irrelevant machine attached to the web. The clowns in this government outfit
    could have done something moronic like open a back door for email for their private use. The key detail is that any sort of
    Hollywood hack involving serious penetration into secure systems is "highly likely" not to have occurred. If it did, then there
    would be actual damage and not some BS about a nondescript hack.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:41 pm

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    Post  calripson on Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:13 am

    kvs wrote:https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-treasury-breached-sophisticated-hacking-group-backed-foreign-government-report

    Pure propaganda.   This BS is designed to keep the sheeple frightened of the "hacker threat".   No serious details.   Basically this
    could be some script kiddies managing to hack an irrelevant machine attached to the web.   The clowns in this government outfit
    could have done something moronic like open a back door for email for their private use.   The key detail is that any sort of
    Hollywood hack involving serious penetration into secure systems is "highly likely" not to have occurred.   If it did, then there
    would be actual damage and not some BS about a nondescript hack.


    They had to float this after the media was exposed as liars for claiming the Hunter Biden corruption scandal was "Russian disinformation". (Pre-election of course). people started to wonder - why are we always falsely accusing the Russian government - and voila, a story of dastardly Russian hackers.

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    Post  kvs on Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:11 am

    https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/putin-russia-reduces-its-dependence-oil

    https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/030315/how-does-price-oil-affect-russias-economy.asp#:~:text=Oil%20and%20gas%20are%20responsible,gross%20domestic%20product%20(GDP).

    Oil and gas are responsible for more than 60% of Russia's exports and provide more than 30% of the country's gross domestic product (GDP).

    An example of the delusional BS that passes for information in the west. Even the World Bank recognizes
    that total resource rents in Russia (that is forestry, minerals, oil and gas) account for less than 10% if Russia's
    GDP.

    These retards actually believe that there is no Russian economy outside of its exports. So it is worse than
    a banana republic.

    These fucking retards are why there is a never ending drang nach osten from the west. Losers think that
    they can roll over Russia without any effort. Just like Napoleon and Hitler.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:15 am

    kvs wrote:https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/putin-russia-reduces-its-dependence-oil

    https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/030315/how-does-price-oil-affect-russias-economy.asp#:~:text=Oil%20and%20gas%20are%20responsible,gross%20domestic%20product%20(GDP).

    Oil and gas are responsible for more than 60% of Russia's exports and provide more than 30% of the country's gross domestic product (GDP).

    An example of the delusional BS that passes for information in the west.   Even the World Bank recognizes
    that total resource rents in Russia (that is forestry, minerals, oil and gas) account for less than 10% if Russia's
    GDP.  

    These retards actually believe that there is no Russian economy outside of its exports.   So it is worse than
    a banana republic.

    These fucking retards are why there is a never ending drang nach osten from the west.   Losers think that
    they can roll over Russia without any effort.   Just like Napoleon and Hitler.


    Do you have the world Bank link?

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PETR.RT.ZS?locations=RU

    So in 2018 the world Bank states oil rent is 10% of GDP. If it's been reduced in 2 years then that means it's roughly 7% or below now.

    So investopedia is full of shit in Grand magnitude.

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    Post  kvs on Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:17 pm

    The World Bank has revised their "data" and figures.   I clearly recall that they had total resource rents about 13.7% several
    years ago.   Then they went down to 11%.   Now that I look for the same links I find revisions where the total resource rents
    have jumped to 15% and a new category, oil rents, pegged at 10% has showed up.   Clearly something smells at the WB.

    The WB revised data shows Russia's oil/resource rents minimizing in 2016 and then shooting back up by almost a factor of two.
    This is clearly some sort of forex and oil price based evaluation.    The problem with this BS is that Russia's GDP did not fluctuate
    this way.   If the natural resource rents fluctuated from 8.7% to 15.1% then the GDP would have fluctuated by 7.6%.  So the
    World Bank is using Russia's nominal GDP in dollars since that "measure" has this sort of variation.  So this variation is all forex
    when looking at the variation of oil prices and nominal ruble GDP over the same time.

    The clowns at Investocrapia take Russia's oil and gas exports in dollars and divide them by Russia's nominal GDP in dollars.  
    So in 2014 when the ruble forex fell by 50%, the supposed fraction of oil and gas in Russia's GDP doubled (ignoring
    that oil and hence gas prices fell, since that does not change my point).   That is how retarded this "analysis" is.

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:49 am

    The irony is that in this case the western propaganda is not directed at Russian citizens, but citizens of the west... look at how bad it is in Russia... maybe the shit you go through to live like kings the way you do is worth it...
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    Post  kvs on Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:52 am

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/pompeo-claims-russia-pretty-clearly-behind-major-cyberattack-us-agencies

    People who hate Trump better cut themselves over Biden. He was actually holding back the tide of anti-Russian
    hysteria. Biden is going to ride this fake stream media hysteria campaign like Hitler rode the one in Germany.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:30 am

    So, gentlemen, ladies and other genders - applaud. CNN journalist Clarissa Ward, the one who showed up at the home of "Navalny's sender", sniffs a backpack in a refugee camp in Syria and identifies sarin by the smell. And she didn't even sneeze. Nails would be made of these people.

    https://twitter.com/ValLisitsa/status/1340219486356561921
    Smell chemical weapon agents, and don't drop dead huh? lol1 clown

    Someone posted this for reference.
    A rabbit used to check for leaks at a former sarin plant (Rocky Mountain Arsenal), 1970
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    https://twitter.com/AlexSit76/status/1340225059827445762

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:51 am

    People who hate Trump better cut themselves over Biden. He was actually holding back the tide of anti-Russian
    hysteria. Biden is going to ride this fake stream media hysteria campaign like Hitler rode the one in Germany.

    Perhaps Russia should show them what a real government level cyber attack is actually like... just so they can appreciate the difference... Twisted Evil
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    Post  Aristide on Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:46 am

    GarryB wrote:
    People who hate Trump better cut themselves over Biden. He was actually holding back the tide of anti-Russian
    hysteria. Biden is going to ride this fake stream media hysteria campaign like Hitler rode the one in Germany.

    Perhaps Russia should show them what a real government level cyber attack is actually like... just so they can appreciate the difference...  Twisted Evil

    Have you ever visited Russia Gary? Just asking out of curiosity.
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    Post  Kiko on Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:25 pm

    Have you ever visited Russia Gary? Just asking out of curiosity.

    Mais quel con!
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:26 am

    Never been to France but I know they murder people...
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    Post  Kiko on Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:07 am

    GarryB wrote:Never been to France but I know they murder people...
    I have been to France on several occasions (lived there for four years and my ancestors are French) and can say that gone are the de Gaulle days when they called the yanks 'les amerloques' and the Brits 'les rosbifs'. Alas today France is an outwardly Atlanticist and NATO driven country with a Disneyland of its own.

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    Post  PhSt on Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:02 pm

    Kiko wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Never been to France but I know they murder people...
    I have been to France on several occasions (lived there for four years and my ancestors are French) and can say that gone are the de Gaulle days when they called the yanks 'les amerloques' and the Brits 'les rosbifs'. Alas today France is an outwardly Atlanticist and NATO driven country with a Disneyland of its own.

    See? it means people's perception/attitudes can be changed over time with the right amount of propaganda and mind conditioning. The same is applicable to former Soviet territories like Ukraine. Even though the population there right now have hostility towards Russia, once liberated, they can still be reprogrammed and re-russified over time.

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