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    F-35 Development and News Thread:

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    Post  LMFS on Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:00 am

    JohninMK wrote:Looks like they still have the vulnerability to lightning problem with the F-35A. I am sure they didn't mean that when they named it Lightning 11  Laughing

    Good one... over-complexity and excessive technical risk in search for technological supremacy and compensation of subpar airframe, crowned by desperate weight-out efforts and recently full emergency mode to control cost and schedule overruns has some consequences, many of which we will only be learning with time, once LM has landed as many contracts as possible and the customers will not only have bought the wrong plane but will need to pay for the necessary retrofits... they are truly a model of worst practices in program management.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:33 am

    So Lightning Too... add that to the list of problems with the plane... Smile
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    Post  thegopnik on Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:37 am



    I thought that this video was fake at 1st, than I googled it to find out it was real.
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    Post  Hole on Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:09 pm

    A test of the new kamikaze modus. Laughing
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:50 pm

    F-35 B Lightning? More like F-35 B Fireball. Wink

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    Post  Isos on Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:20 pm

    A kc-130 also made an emergency landing after loosing 3 of its 4 engines.

    It's a 200 million $ accident.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:51 am

    Fireball is good... it can't fly fast enough to be considered for Meteor... Embarassed

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:00 am

    GarryB wrote:Fireball is good... it can't fly fast enough to be considered for Meteor...   Embarassed

    The principles behind the F-35's design where really grounded. The F-35's stealth principles were so ingenious, that it can make itself indistinguishable from rocks, shrubs, and random wreckage debris.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:20 pm

    "For the F-35, selective math is the weapon of choice to try to make the costs of this struggling program disappear and give the impression that the jet is quite a bargain."

    P.S. That crashed F-35 was worth 175 million bucks, iirc.

    https://twitter.com/gunner_schmulke/status/1319424864994951170

    https://www.pogo.org/analysis/2020/10/selective-arithmetic-to-hide-the-f-35s-true-costs/
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:46 pm

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:18 pm

    Who believes this bullshit?!?!  lol1  pwnd
    The F-35 fighter jet programme’s costs were inflated after China compromised a software vendor in Lockheed Martin’s supply chain, forcing a ground-up rewrite of a potentially affected system, a policy wonk has claimed to UK Parliament.

    https://twitter.com/gunner_schmulke/status/1327612978452160512

    The comments are on point. Wink
    Excellent.
    Why does it cost more than it should? China hacked it.
    Why is the rest of the software a dysfunctional mess? Why is the plane a fat abomination? Why is the structure unsound and the oxygen system unsafe? We couldn't allow a good fighter to fall into Chinese hands!
    It is stealth. That's why it's so important that turkey not use Russian radar to look for it. Because it is invisible.

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:09 am

    I suspect the main reason Yakovlev got permission to sell its engine nozzle technology for VSTOL fighters was because they knew it would turn the F-35 into a dog.

    The fan connected to the engine is a clever way of getting rid of two deadweight engines, but it still makes problems for a supersonic plane.

    If they had one fighter and one Harrier replacement they could have avoided most of the problems... a harrier with a lifting fan could have been an excellent subsonic fighter that can operate from small strips anywhere on land or at sea, while the F-35 would be reshaped to be a stealthy F-16 and would have been faster and lighter and much cheaper and much more manouverable... with better aerodynamics and internal space capacity.

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    Post  thegopnik on Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:34 pm

    Dont think there is a F-22 thread but I find it very funny that it resembles the Su-57 in some ways.

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    I heard that the F-22 or the two seater version was to have canards? Does anyone know that India's su-57 double seater(if it went through) would have had canards as well? The 1st image was to have a larger payload capacity different from the FB-22 concept. Who knows maybe Japan and Israel's F-22 demand might increase the likelihood of F-22 designs coming back.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:19 pm

    Who knows maybe Japan and Israel's F-22 demand might increase the likelihood of F-22 designs coming back.

    Japan and Israel and Australia have all expressed interest in buying F-22s but the Americans really didn't want to sell them....

    At 250 million per aircraft when they were made... probably over 300 million per aircraft to start production now it really makes them unaffordable for any customer...

    BTW systems growth... side looking AESA radars... brilliant... where do they come up with these genius ideas... amazing...
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    Post  ahmedfire on Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:21 pm


    Something like that on J-20

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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:42 am

    ahmedfire wrote:
    Something like that on J-20

    Totally not possible. Search harder for an earlier US version. We all know that China can only copy the US Smile

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