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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:46 pm

    Kiko wrote:EU challenges Russia at WTO over import substitution policy, by Daria Petlaeva for France Sputniknews. 27.07.2021.
    ...............
    A significant loss of earnings

    Thus, for European companies, the loss of earnings in Russian public tenders is significant: in 2019, the value of those published by Russian state-owned enterprises amounted to about 290 billion euros, equivalent to 21% of Russia's GDP, the EU document states.
    .................

    Yes, you retards, that was the whole idea behind it, geeez....

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:51 am

    They imposed multiple rounds of sanctions with the express purpose of economically damaging Russia and now they bleat about contracts they are missing out on for government contracts in Russia...


    Maybe the EU should stop being Washingtons little bitch and man up and make their own decisions and form better relations with Russia based on mutual respect instead of this bullshit teacher student relationship they seem to think exists.

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    Post  kvs Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:25 pm

    Note the anti-Russian propaganda tone in the supposedly Russian information outfit called Sputnik. "Moscow claims". There
    is no claim there is the objective fact of EU sanctions against Russia. Sanctions take the trade outside the WTO and thus
    no Moscow and no claim is involved.

    The WTO is just like WADA, the IOC and the rest of NATzO dominated clown outfits. If the EU gets the WTO to engage in Orwellian
    newthink about Russian "wrong doing", then Russia needs to give the WTO the middle finger. Free trade is an imperialist concept.
    It only works for countries that can squeeze out competition from local companies in countries around the world and are themselves
    not subject to substantial foreign corporate penetration. This works for the USA and the EU. Russia has no such transnational goon
    squad and thus only opens itself up to imperial gang rape as it did under comprador Yeltsin during the 1990s.

    The WTO is a joke anyway, because in every case where NATzO feels Russia is giving it "existential threat" competition, such as
    with the MS-21, it engages in brazen economic sabotage. How was the severing of the material used to construct the MS-21
    wings from composites justifiable under the WTO? This is just one example of forced import substitution. But the perps doing
    the sabotage are crying to their front organization the WTO about "rules".



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    Post  GarryB Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:25 am

    This should be a good test of the WTO...
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    Post  kvs Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:08 pm



    The EU parliament has declared that the upcoming Duma elections are illegitimate and will not recognize their results.

    This is basically a species of an act of war. Proof by assertion, a priori.

    Gazprom should make sure that no extra gas is supplied to these scumbags. Let them pay $1000 for LNG at the going
    far east price.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:30 pm

    kvs wrote:...
    The EU parliament has declared that the upcoming Duma elections are illegitimate and will not recognize their results....

    And not a single f*ck will be given by anyone with any fucks to give

    Why are you even wasting time on this?

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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:20 pm

    It's best Russia turns around and dictates that the EU parliament isn't a governing body as it didn't have elections and thus isnt legitimate.

    The dogs in EU would cry

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:09 pm

    Actually their language has been very extreme in that resolution

    It's not about just the fact of them not recognizing the Duma results

    They are de-facto calling for a full revolution in Russia or the sponsorship of a Syria-style rebellion

    Russia has no choice but to react to such belligerent threats, and with more than just some strongly-worded statements.

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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:48 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Actually their language has been very extreme in that resolution

    It's not about just the fact of them not recognizing the Duma results

    They are de-facto calling for a full revolution in Russia or the sponsorship of a Syria-style rebellion

    Russia has no choice but to react to such belligerent threats, and with more than just some strongly-worded statements.

    They been doing this shit for last couple of years. I believe they also said last elections were a fraud and they didn't recognize it. It's the chimpanzees from Baltics and Pooland who push these shitty resolutions.

    I agree though, Russia should make it clear they will never cooperate with EU parliament as they should not be recognized as a governing body. No one elected these fools. They are appointed.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:27 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Actually their language has been very extreme in that resolution
    It's not about just the fact of them not recognizing the Duma results
    They are de-facto calling for a full revolution in Russia or the sponsorship of a Syria-style rebellion
    Russia has no choice but to react to such belligerent threats, and with more than just some strongly-worded statements.

    I guess so, then response is in order

    They have bee whining so hard for so long that it's all a white noise for me

    Can't really tell the shades

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    Post  Kiko Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:44 am

    Russians bought Van Gogh and Gauguin from France on the cheap, by Elena Karaeva for RIA NOVOSTI. 22/09/2021.

    Yesterday evening in Paris, Emmanuel Macron opened perhaps the most significant exposition of the year: the patron Bernard Arnault is repaying, albeit 100 years later, France's debt to Russia.

    Two hundred masterpieces collected by the Morozov brothers, exhibited in the Louis Vuitton Foundation founded by the richest Frenchman, make it possible to appreciate the feat of the descendants of Russian serfs, who, thanks to their intelligence, talent and, what to hide, enormous generosity, created a market for European art in the form that we know today. ...

    The empire of the Morozov family began with five rubles in gold, which the founder of the dynasty, Savva Vasilyevich, a groom, and then a handicraft weaver, turned with work and faith into a fortune, having redeemed both himself and his family from serfs.

    The history of the formation of the Morozov family is the history of Russia, in which a bright, strong and free third estate gave rise to the prosperity of the Russian state and created the conditions for the ascent of Russian art.

    "And the silver month froze brightly over the Silver Age ..."

    Having received an excellent education and honed their taste, as well as the ability to understand art, the brothers, who have already compiled a collection of paintings by Russian masters for themselves, decide to go to Paris.

    Friends of the Morozovs, artists Serov and Korovin, support them in this endeavor.

    Once in the capital of France, the Russian merchants went, contrary to the then widespread idea, not to the theater or to the restaurant, but straight to the gallery owners.
    They were shown art that, as local art dealers thought, corresponded to the Russian spirit.

    However, the Morozovs, both Mikhail (senior) and Ivan (junior), gave the sellers completely different names. Those whose canvases then no one thought to buy.

    The first was Van Gogh. The second is Gauguin.

    The French themselves easily rejected both: the cruel world of rage and injustice, practically oozing blood in the same "Red Vineyards in Arles", life without sky and almost without air in the "Walk of Prisoners" predicted a completely different future reality.

    But no one wanted to hear about this new reality in France. And therefore, the revolution that took place in art, for the French themselves, accustomed to gallant and smooth painting, passed absolutely unnoticed at that moment.

    But this pain, this suffering, this endless desire to break free was felt by the descendants of the Russian serf.

    The Morozovs were able to sense this because they were brought up in Russian culture, which, in contrast to French and, more broadly, European culture, presupposes sacrifice and suffering: without them, the meaning of life is impossible to comprehend.

    As from the bloody hell of resistance to the Horde invasion, Rublev's Trinity was born, so, albeit with fewer sacrifices, the coming breakdown of the previous order and Van Gogh, and Gauguin, and Cezanne, and Matisse, and Picasso felt and showed earlier than others.

    The meeting was compiled in a merchant manner, when the required canvas was selected for hours, and paid in a merchant manner generously.

    "Russian who is not bargaining" - this is how Ivan Morozov was nicknamed in Paris.

    It was he, Ivan Abramovich, who picked up the baton from the suddenly deceased brother Mikhail, created a market where the price of Van Gogh's canvases soared from several tens of francs to many tens of thousands of francs, where Cezanne became a famous (and bought) artist due to the fact that Morozov did not stingy, acquired his landscapes and still lifes.

    Seventeen thousand rubles is a waste of just one day, which Morozov once spent in a Paris gallery.

    Not a single rich European was capable of such a scale, and it was not so much about the size of the fortune, but about the ability to discern the future of art and, more importantly, to appreciate generously - both in Russian and in a merchant way - the power of talent.

    The reaction to the exhibition opening today in France was truly French. Describing the scale of the Morozovs' asceticism, the press relishes in detail the details of the expropriation of the collection after the revolution, the expulsion and emigration of the collector. With visible pleasure he talks about "the division of the collection that was kept for decades under the cover of censorship and dictatorship" and, naturally, that "Bernard Arnault was able to organize the exhibition solely thanks to his acquaintance and personal meeting with Vladimir Putin ."

    Any other intentions in the previously memorized list of narrow-minded valets from journalism are simply absent, as they were absent from those who believed the painting of Matisse, Gauguin or Van Gogh to be "bright and spotty daubs."

    Mediocrity sees mediocrity from afar - three kilometers from the halls where the canvases of the geniuses of French art collected by Russian merchants were hung - workers wrapped the Arc de Triomphe in rags of faded gray color.

    And exactly the same press called this event "the expression of freedom in the postmodern era."

    They were rolled up not for restoration, but for performance, as it is customary among lured art critics to call this trend: the deceased not so long ago, the author became famous for spending a lot of other people's money, and even more - polyester fabrics to drape famous buildings or monuments.

    Not to create your own, but to cover up something created by someone else, while saying loudly: "I see it that way!"

    A brighter antithesis to the irrepressible Russian collector, who turned out to be able to present the talents of French artists to the city and the world, than the shamefacedly wrapped up symbol of France's glory, is impossible to imagine.

    In Paris, Russia reaffirmed the greatness of the true and indisputable heights of European painting, but the Arc de Triomphe and the inhabitants of the French capital walking by, surrendered, as usual, to the mercy of noisy businessmen from pseudo-art.

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    Post  Kiko Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:47 pm

    Russian coal will save Europe, 01/10/2021.

    An energy crisis is rapidly unfolding in several corners of the planet. Green energy has not justified itself, and the only salvation in Europe, for example, is Russian coal. But until recently, coal-fired power plants were mothballed, and mines were closed. What happened and how should our country act in this situation?

    European electricity producers were forced to ask Russian coal suppliers to increase supplies in order to alleviate the growing energy crisis in the European Union. It was reported by Bloomberg, citing two unnamed industry representatives. The Europeans needed additional coal due to the constant growth of exchange prices for gas, which in September surpassed the "psychological" mark of $ 1,000 per thousand cubic meters and, it seems, are not going to stop.

    Difficulties in energy transition

    The rise in gas prices immediately entails a rise in electricity prices, accelerating inflation - its indicators in some European countries are now at their maximum levels in the current century. For example, in Germany, September inflation was at a record level since 1997.

    The high cost of gas is largely due to the insufficient filling of European storage facilities after last winter, which turned out to be quite cold. In addition, wind power turned out to be a weak link: due to the calm weather that has settled over Europe in recent months, its capacity cannot generate enough electricity to meet demand.

    Therefore, on the eve of the new heating season, the Europeans already have to compromise with their own "green" course. For example, in the UK, the mothballed coal-fired power plant West Burton A was re-launched in early September. Then, the Drax group, one of the largest energy operators in the country, announced its readiness to increase the volume of coal generation.

    But until recently, Great Britain, the birthplace of coal energy, announced that by 2024 it plans to completely abandon this not the most environmentally friendly method of generating electricity. Last year the share of coal in Britain's energy mix fell to a paltry 1.6%, and the country seemed to be successfully replacing industrial-era power plants with renewable power, most notably wind. But now it turns out that it was too early to bury the coal power industry.

    The problems of alternative energy in the European Union were revealed last winter. After the share of solar-wind generation in Germany reached 33% by 2021, its massive refusal in January and February due to calm weather created significant energy risks for the whole of Europe, notes Alexander Osin, analyst at the Russian Stock Exchange Trading Operations Department. the market of the company "Freedom Finance". Gazprom helped to prevent the crisis, he said, by extending the terms of gas supplies to Europe to the physical limit of the throughput of European gas pipelines. However, six months later, the situation repeated itself.

    Similar problems with energy supply have now arisen on the other side of Eurasia - in China, where coal-fired power plants have been actively decommissioned in recent years due to the need to improve the environment. The outgoing generation was replaced not only by gas, but also by renewable sources, and the result turned out to be about the same: in recent days, more and more news has been coming from the PRC about the growing shortage of electricity. Back in July, the authorities were forced to start blackouts in a number of major cities, including Beijing, and recently the problems have sunk to industry. In particular, they were forced to suspend the work of factories producing components for Tesla and Apple for several days.

    Coal at any cost

    The Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation did not receive any requests from China and European states on the issues of increasing coal exports from Russia, the press service of the department reported on the eve. At the same time, it is known that the Chinese side has already submitted a request to Inter RAO, a Russian electricity export operator, with a request to increase the supply of electricity, and the Chinese are now looking for coal literally all over the world. A few days ago, the China Electricity Board announced that coal supplies would increase at any cost.

    Such statements only exacerbate the situation on the market: in Europe, the price of coal has already reached its highest levels since 2008. Russian suppliers are quite capable of taking advantage of this situation, analysts say. “Russian coal miners will be able to increase shipments in the western direction without any problems, there is a safety margin, another 10-15 million tons can be added to the current plan by the end of the cold season,” says the General Director of Infra. Projects ”Alexey Bezborodov. However, he adds, there is no such reserve to the east. It will be possible to significantly increase exports only if China opens land border crossings - in this case, it will be possible to additionally ship about 10 million tons.

    The upcoming winter, the expert adds, is likely to be very cold, based on the fact that the northern hemisphere has formed the thickest ice cover in the last nine years.

    Therefore, until the end of the cold season, the price of thermal coal should remain above $ 100 per ton, and for coking coal - under $ 200, Aleksey Bezborodov predicts. “Further, - he believes, - there is no need to count on a strong decline, since prices are under strong pressure from accelerating inflation throughout the world - this is a new reality that will have to get used to”.

    According to Mikhail Bespalov, an analyst with the investment company KSP Capital UA, in September, representatives of Russian Railways reported an increase in coal loading at the ports of the Azov-Black Sea basin, which indirectly confirms a likely increase in exports to Europe. In addition, railroad workers also recorded an increase in the volume of coal transported to China. In theory, Russian coal companies can increase supplies to Europe - there is no shortage of port capacity in this area, unlike the Far East, confirms the managing partner of FOK (Financial and Organizational Consulting) Moisey Furshchik. But the problem, in his opinion, is that Europe has already closed a significant part of coal generation, and it will not be possible to resolve the current situation only at the expense of coal.

    Unlike many other markets, the energy sector did not feel the impact of the pandemic too much, the expert adds: mining enterprises were almost never quarantined, and pipeline capacities were not reduced. “Rather,” says Moisey Furshchik, “it was the combination of geopolitical games and too sharp reduction of coal and nuclear power generation by Europe. In addition, aggressive plans to achieve "carbon neutrality" have sharply reduced the motivation to build new terminals for receiving liquefied gas. As a result, the European energy system has become much less sustainable."

    Russian coal miners are certainly capable of meeting the growing demand in Europe - but provided that the European authorities and energy companies reduce the influence of anti-Russian political rhetoric, said Mikhail Khachaturyan, associate professor of the Department of Management and Innovation at the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation. But, in his opinion, one should not seriously count on this, because most of the EU countries, following the example of Germany, have abandoned the use of coal in their energy systems. And Germany, in connection with the upcoming launch of Nord Stream 2 in the future several months, feels relatively safe, feeling the ability to dictate conditions to the entire European Union, since it is turning into the largest gas hub in Europe.

    There is still enough coal for our age

    One of the main questions that the current energy crisis poses for many countries is how productive it is to further build up renewable generation capacities. On the one hand, global concern about climate change problems in the coming years will not go away, on the other hand, expectations related to alternative energy are becoming less and less rosy before our eyes. Therefore, it is too early to write off traditional energy sources, including "dirty" coal.

    Both in Europe and in China, the potential of renewable energy sources was overestimated: their capacity began to be perceived as a kind of constant value, although they strongly depend on weather conditions, notes Aleksey Bezborodov. According to him, the calculations for "green" energy did not stand up to the elementary laws of physics, although this was understandable even when the prices for gas and coal were at a low level.

    For several years, the weather allowed increasing the capacity of wind and solar energy to the detriment of coal and gas, but the first cold year showed that this was a very reckless approach. Therefore, Bezborodov believes that coal will feel good for at least another ten years. “So far, research and innovations in the field of renewable energy do not demonstrate a convincing possibility of replacing coal capacities - only nuclear generation can do this,” the expert is sure.

    It is already possible to predict a slowdown in the development of a green economy, which has not yet proved its own effectiveness, believes an independent industrial expert, candidate of economic sciences Leonid Khazanov. In his opinion, Europe and America will remember for a long time how last winter, due to severe cold weather, wind turbines stopped and many houses simply froze, and the transfer of electricity did not help much, again due to the fall in wind generation. “The plans to create hydrogen production facilities of various shades are still on paper only and, it seems, will not come true soon,” the analyst adds. “It will not be surprising if in Europe they continue to reactivate the shutdown coal power plants to secure the capacities operating on the power of wind and sunlight”.

    The current situation is likely to lead to a revision of risk factors in the energy sector, which could lead to a slowdown in the transition to energy sources with less emissions, says Mikhail Bespalov. Nevertheless, the expert adds, the prospects of the coal industry against the background of the continuing trend towards "greening" the economy still look contradictory. There is no talk of a new inflow of investments into the industry and an increase in coal production.

    Meanwhile, according to Alexander Osin, Russia has the potential to significantly accelerate coal production: in eight months of this year it has already increased by 8.7%, to 282 million tons, although one should take into account the significant effect of the low base - last year production fell by 10 %. At the same time, the prospects are seen quite confidently. According to the analyst, the management of Mechel recently released a survey, which states that demand for coal in Asia - for example, in India and Vietnam, where construction of "traditional" thermal power plants continues, will remain high in the next decade.

    “The Russian coal industry has a strong sectoral lobby, which is currently relatively successful in opposing the influence of the 'green' initiatives of supranational regulators on the Russian market,” notes Alexander Osin. The risks associated with these initiatives and factors of non-market restrictions on investments in the coal industry, in his opinion, remain. At the same time, according to the analyst, in the medium term, one can expect a significant slowdown in the growth of investments in renewable energy - this relatively low-margin segment traditionally reacts negatively to the growth of inflationary fears, rates and required return on investments.

    Text: Mikhail Kuvyrko

    https://m.vz.ru/economy/2021/10/1/1121919.html

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    Post  franco Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:52 pm

    Threats for Russia: how the German government is being formed

    Exactly one month ago, on September 26, parliamentary elections were held in Germany. The founding meeting of the new convocation of the Bundestag was also held today, after which the President of the country officially handed over documents on the termination of powers to Angela Merkel and members of her government. However, they will continue to perform their duties until the final formation of the government.

    At the founding meeting of the new parliament, a new presidium of the Bundestag was elected, and the rules of procedure were agreed. Now the post of chairman will be taken by the representative of the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) Berbel Bas, as the candidate is usually nominated by the strongest faction.

    As reported by Bayerischer Rundfunk , the head of the Bundestag is the second most important person in the country after the president. In addition, she will become the third woman in post-war German history to chair. According to political scientist Klaus Stuve, Bas is known for her "leftist" views.

    “Bas belongs to the so-called parliamentary left, this is the union of the left wing of the Social Democrats in the parliamentary faction. This group takes the traditional position of the Social Democrats and was skeptical about the social reforms of former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, ” he said .

    The new German parliament will have 736 deputies, second only to China in number. At the same time, not all citizens were happy with such a number of parliamentarians. It is noted that the maintenance of such a number of deputies will cost the Germans additional costs in the amount of 410 million euros.

    In particular, on October 25, the Taxpayers' Union held a protest, stating that the country did not need such a large parliamentary corps. The participants of the action came out with the slogan “Stop XXL-Bundestag! 500 MPs are enough! " and demanded to reduce the number of parliamentarians.

    “The urgently needed reform of electoral legislation should once again make the Bundestag more efficient, economical and predictable. The focus of legislation should be on the voter as a sovereign, and not on the egoism of parties, ”said Rainer Holznagel, head of the Taxpayers' Union.

    Now the political forces of the SPD, Soyuz 90 / Greens and the liberal Free Democratic Party (FDP) are busy forming a new government. According to Olaf Scholz, who will become the new German chancellor, the negotiators adopted a common document, which is the basis for the decision to form a government.

    “This is a very good result, which makes it clear that a government can be formed in Germany,” he said.

    At the same time, the politician noted that the new Cabinet could be formed by December 25. Scholz himself may take over as chancellor between December 6 and 12.

    At the same time, Der Spiegel noted that the party negotiations were not easy. In particular, the controversy was caused by Nord Stream 2, which is now supported by the SPD. Therefore, the final coalition document does not say a word about the Russian pipeline. The parties generally confirmed the need to diversify energy supply routes to the EU, and also called for a quick transition to green energy.

    The newspaper also reports that opponents of the gas pipeline agreed not to oppose the issuance of a permit for operation, but the final statement included a clause prohibiting the construction of new pipelines in the future. In addition, the coalition proposed its own way of dealing with the energy crisis. For example, to oblige suppliers to comply with the minimum level of filling storage facilities with fuel, as well as to expand the energy partnership with Ukraine.

    At the same time, journalists believe that the new government of Germany has already failed the first stress test in connection with the latest energy crisis in the EU.

    “Before the elections, the Social Democrats and the Greens supported the growth of prices for fossil fuels, arguing that it is necessary to quickly move to a new economy and mode of consumption. As a result, they found themselves at a loss in the face of a real - rapid and uncontrollable - rise in energy prices, ”the article says.

    Separately, journalists draw attention to the fact that after these events, the zeal of the “greens” regarding saving the environment has subsided a little.

    “The past election campaign in Germany, in which climate protection was discussed primarily in the context of the questions 'how much does it cost?' And 'who should pay for all this?' - instead of 'what's the point?' - clearly showed how easy it is to grow energy prices can be used for political purposes. The Greens want the price of gasoline to rise by 16 cents per liter over the next few years. However, now the party has already gone into defense, ”the publication says .

    One more question, which also worries the EU countries, who will take the next ministerial posts. It is assumed that the leader of the FDP Christian Lindner may head the Ministry of Finance. As DW writes, it was he who previously proposed expanding personal sanctions against Russian officials and businessmen involved in human rights violations.

    Meanwhile, the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs may become the co-chairman of the German Green Party, Annalena Berbock, who supported the tightening of policy against Moscow. According to her, it is important in foreign policy to pay attention to human rights, democracy and the climate. In addition, the Greens may leave the new ministry for combating climate change and environmental protection and the post of vice-chancellor.

    In a recent interview with Funke, Berbock stated that Moscow is allegedly "blackmailing" Germany by speculating on gas prices.

    “We see that Russia is playing poker. We must not allow ourselves to be blackmailed. Russia can take advantage of this to achieve a quick permit to launch Nord Stream 2, even if all legal requirements are not met, ”she said.

    As for the future chancellor, Scholz rarely spoke about Russia. At the same time, experts and the German media note that he is a very pragmatic politician.

    “Relations with Russia may be even better than under Merkel, whose main agenda was human rights. However, small parties will determine the agenda, including foreign policy. This deprives the future Federal Chancellor of the opportunity to form his own foreign policy, " said political analyst Alexander Rahr. ...

    In general, one should not expect any drastic maneuvers towards lifting the sanctions from Russia, says the article Der Tagesspiegel . However, Scholz will still focus on dialogue with Moscow and advocate close and profitable economic ties.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:56 am

    I think the turn east and south by Russia is the most sensible thing... sell gas and oil and things to EU but there is no interest in friendship or cooperation.

    Ignore the lectures and respond to the tantrums in kind...

    When HATO kicked out 8 of 20 Russians the Russians responded by closing the entire mission and the equivalent HATO mission in Russia.... sounds like equal measured responses are no longer on the agenda and that if you don't want to talk then we wont talk at all is acceptable to use these days...

    The EU should consider that in their future dealings with Russia, clearly school is over and the student expects some respect from these people who think they are teachers and have some authority.

    BTW this is going to kick the EU- Russian relationship in the balls...

    https://www.rt.com/russia/538517-zelensky-dutch-court-gold-crimea/
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    Post  kvs Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:57 pm

    GarryB wrote:I think the turn east and south by Russia is the most sensible thing... sell gas and oil and things to EU but there is no interest in friendship or cooperation.

    Ignore the lectures and respond to the tantrums in kind...

    When HATO kicked out 8 of 20 Russians the Russians responded by closing the entire mission and the equivalent HATO mission in Russia.... sounds like equal measured responses are no longer on the agenda and that if you don't want to talk then we wont talk at all is acceptable to use these days...

    The EU should consider that in their future dealings with Russia, clearly school is over and the student expects some respect from these people who think they are teachers and have some authority.

    BTW this is going to kick the EU- Russian relationship in the balls...

    https://www.rt.com/russia/538517-zelensky-dutch-court-gold-crimea/

    Once again an EU kangaroo court shows its nature. I can engage in the same BS by choosing and picking the start day for anything. How was the
    breakup of the USSR determined to be the legitimate claim of Kiev on this archeological treasure? This Dutch kangaroo court merely assumes that
    Crimea was some intrinsic part of Ukraine even though it had restored its autonomy in August of 1990 and the Ukrainian Rada recognized the restoration
    of autonomy. But some Dutch "court" can simply ignore this in its Mickey Mouse "due process".

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    Post  GarryB Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:44 am

    Wonder if there is any Dutch art in the Crimea or Russian art museums and galleries....

    Maybe the colonies might claim ownership of such thing in compensation for colonial misdeeds of the past by the Dutch specifically and the Europeans in general.

    Opening pandoras box... but now it is open...
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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:21 am

    GarryB wrote:Wonder if there is any Dutch art in the Crimea or Russian art museums and galleries....

    Maybe the colonies might claim ownership of such thing in compensation for colonial misdeeds of the past by the Dutch specifically and the Europeans in general.

    Opening pandoras box... but now it is open...
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    Dutch Politics is heavily biased because of MH-17.

    Their foreign policy barely makes their local news and heavy manipulation happens in the background.

    Shortly after MH-17 was shot down, The Dutch send their airborne forces to Ukraine to secure the Crash-site.
    After the arrived in ukraine, Dutch Troops began fotographing the Ukrainian neo-nazi millitia and put it onto their social media.
    you cant really talk your way out of an image where an BMP drives by with an flag carrying Nazi insignia.
    So Dutch forces where quickly flown back to the Netherlands.

    Their millitary salvage trucks back home that where stickered in blue wrap, to be under an yet-declared UN mission was cancelled because the Dutch Government wanted to keep this from the media at all costs.

    Half of MH-17 containing weapon debri went to Rammstein Airbase to dissapear forever.
    The other bits went to the Netherlands to be used in an mock trail.

    Ukrainians made themselves an mistake, misidentifying the malasyan aircraft for Putin's presidential plane on the return flight.
    trying to execute an political assasination.

    I was an active serviceman in NATO as this happened.
    NATO is just an extension of U.S foreign policy.
    Ready to sarcifice its own EU NATO territory's on the U.S behalf.

    When i talked about this with friends and fammily members back here at home in Europe.
    Most really do not give a shit.

    Even when i point out to them they knew me as being heavy pro-american before my deployments,
    And after my deployments in Afghanistan i came back hating U.S Foreign Policy, my experiences with Russian millitary contractors and war-crimes NATO committed.

    In my personal experiences, i kept up with EU and Russian media like RT.
    I never caught RT or Sputnik twisting an story i had personal knowledge off from my own millitary.
    The EU media always does.

    To just extend me going off-topic:
    EU governments and media always keeps formenting that the Russians and their government is untrustworthy.
    They operate ancient machines caked in rust that are about to break down any second.

    In afghanistan i was confronted with many russian transport company's operating russian helicopters and aircraft.
    Operating Russian former millitary crews under contract of NATO, Because NATO itself could not sustain itself logistically.
    They never broke their word, always executed their missions.

    the EU does not deserve the help of Russia, while it demonises it at every opertunity.

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    Post  kvs Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:45 pm



    EU-tardia is about to crap its pants.

    On the pretext of "doing something" about the migrant problem on the border of Poland and Belorus, EU-tardia
    is planning to impose sanctions on Aeroflot. That's right, somehow Russia is responsible for Turkish Airlines
    shipping migrants to Belorus after Lukashenko made noises practically inviting them there.

    Note how EU-tardia no longer cares about the same precious migrants it took in by the million only a few years
    ago. Anything touching on Russia turns off all those "values" EU-tards and the rest of the NATzO west always
    bleats about. Aeroflot does not even operate to countries from where the migrants are coming. They are
    flying in from Turkey. If EU-tards are so worried, then they should call Erdogan instead of Putin.

    EU-tards are forgetting that any sanctions on Aeroflot will cause the loss of access to Russian air space. American
    airlines are already demanding the State Department stop similar sanctions retardation, but the EU-tards are
    too full of shit to react early.

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    Post  Hole Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:06 pm

    So much to the human right of free travel. Rolling Eyes

    It is totally legal to buy a ticket from Iraq or Yemen or even California and fly to Minsk, take a bus and go to as polish border post, asking for asylum. A few years ago the Polish were ridiculed because they didn´t want to take a single refugee from the western asia (middle east) even it polish soldiers were taking part in the war against Iraq. Today they are heros for Brussels because they build a barbed wire fence.
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    Post  Kiko Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:07 pm

    Flows of migrants using Russia for transit to EU on the rise - Russian Security Council, 21/11/2021.

    Deputy Secretary of the Russian Security Council Alexander Grebenkin noted that "the problem of illegal migration is still pressing" amid the pandemic.

    MOSCOW, November 21. /TASS/. Russia’s Security Council warns that flows of migrants using Russia for transit to the European Union are increasing.

    "There is a tendency toward increasing flows of migrants from the Middle East, North Africa and Southeast Asia, who use Russia as a transit country to reach European Union nations in search of a better life," Deputy Secretary of the Russian Security Council Alexander Grebenkin said in an interview with the Rossiiskaya Gazeta daily.

    He noted that "the problem of illegal migration is still pressing" amid the pandemic. "Most of them are citizens of Central Asian republics, Ukraine and Moldova who come to Russia to work," he said.

    "More than 20,000 attempts at illegal entry to Russia are stopped at the state border every year. More than 6,000 migrants are detained while crossing the border off checkpoints," he said. "The activities of 182 organizers of illegal migration channels were stopped in 2020-2021. Some 22,400 foreign nationals, who have been banned from entering Russia, were stopped at the border this year alone."

    "The number of attempts at trafficking drugs, commodity, strategic raw materials, sanctioned and counterfeit products is not decreasing," he noted.

    According to Grebenkin, Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB), interior and defense ministries, the Federal Customs Service, the National Guard and other agencies are implementing plans of combating terrorism and trans-border crime. "More than 20 special border operations have been conducted at various border sections since 2018," he added.

    https://tass.com/politics/1364319
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    Post  mnztr Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:25 pm

    Kiko wrote:EU challenges Russia at WTO over import substitution policy, by Daria Petlaeva for France Sputniknews. 27.07.2021.


    Hmm lets see, you place random and punitive sanctions and then are surprised people don't want to do business? Perhaps Russia should name the discriminatory criteria "counter Sanctions" and leave it at that.

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    Post  George1 Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:31 pm

    EU summit on December 16-17 will extend current sanctions on Russia — source

    https://tass.com/world/1372611
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:39 pm

    George, I have a question for you buddy. scratch
    Are there any political/social comments in Greece towards the last Pieszkow statement about Greece/RUS relations?
    That RU/GR is scaled 6/10, while TR/RU 7/10?
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    Post  George1 Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:45 pm

    ALAMO wrote:George, I have a question for you buddy. scratch
    Are there any political/social comments in Greece towards the last Pieszkow statement about Greece/RUS relations?
    That RU/GR is scaled 6/10, while TR/RU 7/10?

    No. Greek PM Kyriakos Mitsotakis made this statement regarding Greek-Russian relations

    "We know where we belong, but at the same time we are developing our relationship with Russia, with which we have a broad agenda of issues, which are purely bilateral and are not necessarily affected by problems in Euro-Russian relations or NATO relations with Russia. Always within the EU and NATO, we will seek de-escalation and not a rhetoric of tension,"


    Kyriakos Mitsotakis and Russian President Vladimir Putin are expected to have a four-on-four meeting today in Sochi, Russia. The deepening of bilateral cooperation is on the agenda.
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:50 pm

    George1 wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:George, I have a question for you buddy. scratch
    Are there any political/social comments in Greece towards the last Pieszkow statement about Greece/RUS relations?
    That RU/GR is scaled 6/10, while TR/RU 7/10?

    No. Greek PM Kyriakos Mitsotakis made this statement regarding Greek-Russian relations

    "We know where we belong, but at the same time we are developing our relationship with Russia, with which we have a broad agenda of issues, which are purely bilateral and are not necessarily affected by problems in Euro-Russian relations or NATO relations with Russia. Always within the EU and NATO, we will seek de-escalation and not a rhetoric of tension,"


    Kyriakos Mitsotakis and Russian President Vladimir Putin are expected to have a four-on-four meeting today in Sochi, Russia. The deepening of bilateral cooperation is on the agenda.

    Yes I know that, and to be honest - I was kinda surprised by Pieskow putting TR/RU relations higher.
    I would choose relations with Greece rather than Turkey at any moment.
    So maybe it is just a show, od carrot&stick tactics scratch

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