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    Post  GarryB on Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:39 am

    Hahahaha.... of course.... it must be foreign maligned influence... because if it was a Ukrainian website spreading shit on Putin you can bet your ass we would be funding the hell out of that, so these guys must be guilty... it couldn't possibly be that they don't trust western politicians or western media sources and want to discuss reality instead of newspeak they are supposed to be repeating like a good little boy.

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    Post  kvs on Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:49 pm

    GarryB wrote:Hahahaha.... of course.... it must be foreign maligned influence... because if it was a Ukrainian website spreading shit on Putin you can bet your ass we would be funding the hell out of that, so these guys must be guilty... it couldn't possibly be that they don't trust western politicians or western media sources and want to discuss reality instead of newspeak they are supposed to be repeating like a good little boy.


    It's thick and rich for the state propaganda orifice the CBC to be smearing an independent media outlet.

    Hypocrisy, hate fantasy projection and wishful thinking are the main pillars of NATzO mass media.

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    Post  kvs on Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:04 am

    https://twitter.com/Hagstrom_Anders/status/1319314523162107905

    Lesley Stahl of 60 Minutes shows us what modern NATzO journalism really is. Infantile spazz theater. Proof by
    assertion and mocking of inconvenient facts. The word investigation has no applicability to western journalism.
    It has fully degenerated into smear, innuendo and outright lying to push whatever agenda the media's bosses have.

    People on this forum don't like Trump. He must be doing something right if the fake stream media hyenas are
    clearly out to get him since 2016 already.

    BTW, Trump was a Democrat for years and not some hard core right wing loon. The reason he switched to the
    Republican Party because it still has not transitioned into SJW identity politics retardation. He wanted to be
    a real politician and leader instead of being a PC zealot shoving male genital mutilation down everyone's throats.
    And his economic nationalism is 100% correct. Globalism is a dead end across a full spectrum of aspects including
    cultural collapse.

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:52 am

    I don't like Trump either... I think his policies were good... bring the troops back from wars that are none of Americas business, and learn to trade and deal with Russia, but his implementation has been pathetic... the democrats have goaded him into the opposite policy with Russia to try to make himself look tough and strong... but tough and strong to his opponents is pointless because they will never respect you.

    It makes more sense to ignore the goading from the democrats and make good deals with Russia and get things going and improve the economy of both countries with good trade and cooperation where both gain and develop and improve...

    But no, he falls for it every time... Trump looks like he might talk to Putin and get some good trade things going and the Democrats call him Putins puppet and so he says the Skripal attack was Putin so here are the new US sanctions against Russia because it is highly likely they did this.

    The country getting the most benefit is the UK and it is actually highly likely they made all this bullshit up.

    What really annoys me is the Russians acting in kind to such stupidity.

    If the west kicks out 50 Russian diplomats then the Russians should kick out 500 western diplomats.

    The west is kicking out 50 because they think, without evidence, that Putin tried to have some people killed, so the response from Russia should be to kick out 250 diplomats (or all if they don't have 250) for being accused, convicted, and sentenced for a crime there is no proof they committed... from countries that claim to have innocent till proven guilty legal systems. That means without proof 50 Russian diplomats have been stopped from doing their jobs for no reason... the response should be at least double if not five times...

    But Putin does not want to upset the rational people in the west, well the rational people in the west need to stop voting such censored into office.
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    Post  franco on Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:02 pm

    Russophrenia... Or How A Collapsing Country Runs The World

    Suspect No dunno Rolling Eyes

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russophrenia-or-how-collapsing-country-runs-world

    This article is humorous, sad and true.

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    Post  kvs on Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:20 pm

    https://patrickarmstrong.ca/2017/10/12/exchange-rating-russia-down-and-out/

    One of the best articles of why the forex rate is not a valid measure of Russia's GDP.    Forex rates
    only mean something for commodity or "banana" republics.   All the clowns that run around yapping
    about the ruble's forex rate are just assuming that Russia is a banana republic.   Hilariously delusional
    nonsense by wishful thinking and hate fantasy projecting morons.

    In fact, ruble forex drops are stimulus for Russia's economy since it can import substitute and export
    more. Giving a cubic effect. Replacing imports has a GDP gain of $2 per $1 of imports stopped.
    More exports due to lower forex rates does not reduce ruble income from such exports. We saw with
    the oil and gas situation in 2014. The ruble dropped to fully offset the dollar price drop of oil and
    gas on international markets. The moron currency speculators thought they were hurting Russia
    when they were actually removing the effect of dollar price drops on oil and gas.

    For other goods such as vehicles and machinery, the a forex drop means same ruble revenues from
    cheaper dollar priced goods. Lower prices usually increased demand since the products in this
    case are actually good.

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    Post  kvs on Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:35 pm

    franco wrote:Russophrenia... Or How A Collapsing Country Runs The World

    Suspect  No  dunno  Rolling Eyes

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russophrenia-or-how-collapsing-country-runs-world

    This article is humorous, sad and true.  

    Check out the retarded posts below this article. Poor little baby Americans weened from birth to hate Russia and not to
    think for themselves. Armstrong's article is too much cognitive dissonance for these drones.



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    Post  LMFS on Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:43 pm

    franco wrote:
    Russophrenia... Or How A Collapsing Country Runs The World

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russophrenia-or-how-collapsing-country-runs-world


    Very good compilation of Western dementia lol1

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:59 pm

    Russkies meddling in our elections...meanwhile:
    US government’s Own Data Shows US Interfered In 81 Foreign Elections
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    Post  kvs on Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:35 pm

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1320178726500519937

    Musk's wundertech.

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:26 am

    How Ironic... I click on the link and it says "Something went wrong"...

    Do all his projects go this way?
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    Post  kvs on Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:32 pm

    https://nltimes.nl/2020/10/19/nl-recycles-less-plastic-figures-show-report

    The Netherlands recycles much less plastic than figures indicate. The recycling figures show the amount of plastic that had been sorted, not what was actually converted into a new product. Much of the waste included in the sorted figures end up being incinerated or dumped in a landfill abroad, NRC reports based on its own research.

    The official figures claim that the Netherlands recycles more than half of all plastic packaging, 52 percent in 2018, according to the newspaper. But about a third of the plastic flow from Dutch households still end up in the incinerator, the recycling sector estimates.

    When it comes to difficult-to-process plastic, a quarter to a half end up in landfills or being burned, the newspaper reports based on estimates of waste processors and scientists.

    This plastic is still recorded as fully recycled in the statistics, according to NRC.

    Anti-Russia propaganda tries to drill into the minds of Russians that Russia is 100 years behind the precious west in everything.
    One of the propaganda claims is that western countries like the Netherlands recycle the vast majority of their waste and
    are squeaky clean compared to Russia which is in the landfill stone age. But this propaganda has been exposed by the
    recent refusal of the Philippines and other countries to take any more so-called recycled waste.

    The Netherlands official statistics are a lie. They count as recycled plastics that are burned and sent to landfills. Canada
    just shipped its "recycled" waste to the Philippines. Making sure to credit itself for saving the environment.

    Interesting also how Greanpeace rags on Russia for deploying incinerators when Holland uses them continuously. I posted
    before how Greanpeace denied the existence of the biggest incinerator in the EU that was 10 km from its headquarters.



    https://www.efe.com/efe/english/life/the-philippines-refuses-to-be-first-world-s-trash-dump/50000263-3988661

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:45 pm

    The Spaniard Don Quixote govt. is now claiming VVP personally sent soldiers to secure Catalan independence! lol1 clown

    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1321527366364073984
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    Post  kvs on Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:58 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:The Spaniard Don Quixote govt. is now claiming VVP personally sent soldiers to secure Catalan independence! lol1 clown

    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1321527366364073984

    Supposing he had, why is that bad? I am being facetious, but why is it good for Spain and other members of NATzO to support secessionists
    in Russia, but deny Catalans the same rights. We even have the 2008 ICJ at the Hague decision on Kosovo giving self determination more
    weight than even before.

    Sounds like the Spanish regime has the usual problem of all criminals, paranoia that someone is out to get them. The poor dears.

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    Post  LMFS on Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:58 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:The Spaniard Don Quixote govt. is now claiming VVP personally sent soldiers to secure Catalan independence! lol1 clown

    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1321527366364073984

    This is the way to earn easy points with their masters and they never had any dignity, so there you go... the world is going terminally demented
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:50 am

    Well even if he did ask... what difference does that even make?

    Perhaps Russia should start imposing sanctions on Spain for its undemocratic actions regarding democracy and respecting the will of the people... violating the principles of the EU and HATO and probably other organisations too...
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    Post  kvs on Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:41 pm



    The NATzO west always tries to browbeat Russia about how it lacks "freedoms". This is pure propaganda BS.
    In France we had the arrest of a Chechen migrant merely for "liking" a post on some social media showing one
    of the victims of one of the recent terror attacks. The police supposedly found weapons and other incriminating
    "evidence" in his house. The Chechen denies that he was a militant. Contrast this to Russia where whole
    media outfits not only "like" terrorism and terrorists they engage in systematic apologia and misinformation to
    paint these terrorists as dissidents and "freedom fighters".

    Then we have the LGBTXYZ freaks and their politician and MSM enabled terror campaign to force everyone to
    use the "right terms" (e.g. dragon-kin instead of Mr.) and to show them "sufficient respect", which means
    only their opinions are allowed. So if someone thinks that gender change surgery on children is child genital
    mutilation, then they have no right to express that opinion. The established medical fact termed "gender
    disphoria" is to be forgotten since supposedly genders are only social constructs (I guess female tits and
    vaginas must be a figment of the imagination). Russia fails to pander to these sociopaths so it is "wrong doing"
    according to the NATzO west. For some peculiar reason, the fact that homosexuals are stoned to death in
    Saudi Arabia and other US protectorates is systematically ignored. Only Russia needs to bend the knee and
    swallow NATzO shit.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:44 pm

    I don't know of Russian media that openly supports terrorism that doesn't end up getting investigated or fines.

    Russia takes terrorism very seriously.

    Just the west does worst than Russia in human rights while yelling the loudest about Russia
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    Post  kvs on Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:36 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:I don't know of Russian media that openly supports terrorism that doesn't end up getting investigated or fines.

    Russia takes terrorism very seriously.

    Just the west does worst than Russia in human rights while yelling the loudest about Russia

    Then you are not aware of Novaya Gazeta. These Russian MSM outfits have been engaged in terrorism whitewashing
    since the 1990s and I can attest to this fact since I have been following these media that long. It is only recently that
    some sort of action has been taking to shut these liars up. But it is a slap on the wrist. None of the editors or journalists
    have been prosecuted like the Chechen in France. None of them are behind bars or even bankrupt from heavy fines.

    There is simply no analogue of the Russian liberast MSM in the west. In the west the MSM is goosestepping to the
    the marching music. And some obscure fringe "samizdat" does not make western media free.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:55 pm

    Novaya Gazeta isn't in russia. It's in Latvia I think.

    But yeah, they got journalists in Russia and they should be banned from journalism.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:36 am

    LMFS wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:The Spaniard Don Quixote govt. is now claiming VVP personally sent soldiers to secure Catalan independence! lol1 clown

    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1321527366364073984

    This is the way to earn easy points with their masters and they never had any dignity, so there you go... the world is going terminally demented

    They went as far saying as VVP sent a whopping 10,000 soldiers to secure Catalan independence lmao! lol1 If Russia sent 10k soldiers in to Europe then the whole continent would be conquered, with all the major cities reduced to craters and rubble lol! clown pwnd
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    Post  LMFS on Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:26 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:They went as far saying as VVP sent a whopping 10,000 soldiers to secure Catalan independence lmao! lol1 If Russia sent 10k soldiers in to Europe then the whole continent would be conquered, with all the major cities reduced to craters and rubble lol! clown pwnd

    To be fair the judge apparently just said there were recordings mentioning that possibility, but the utter absurdity of such claims should have never made it to the media in a sane world. Since we cannot think straight anymore, we are irremediably going down the drain. Better a terrible end that terror without end, me thinks...
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    Post  kvs on Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:03 pm

    There is a Russian saying: na vore shapka gorit, or the hat burns on the thief. It means the thief is paranoid about being caught
    and knows he is guilty. The Spanish are showing exactly this behaviour. It is a vassal of the USA which was openly supporting
    secessionists in Russia and the USSR. So they expect retribution. I do not think this is just some lame smear, it really is their
    paranoia that Russia will dish out payback. Of course these slimeballs deserve it, but Russia has no interested in touching the
    NATzO turd pile.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:02 am

    In the west the enemy is always guilty of committing the crimes you commit... that way when it is revealed the west was doing it too it seems normal, when in fact the west has been doing some nasty shit for all of its existence... there is a visible track record, but with Russian hackers or Putins poison victims there is no actual evidence... just highly likely till investigation proves it was not true.

    The punishments inflicted based on the false assumption are never lifted... they don't even get an apology...
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    Post  kvs on Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:05 am



    So now Sri Lanka has decided to send back trash from the UK which in the UK is counted as "recycled".
    This waste also includes body parts and other biowaste.

    I do not understand the inanity of the west. All biowaste can be processed domestically. It does not need to be
    buried like nuclear "waste". There are these things called bacteria that will do wonders if given the right environment.
    The could try pulping the biowaste and then aerating it until there is nothing left but calcium carbonate and refractory
    organics. In this form it is not longer a hazard and can be buried in much smaller volume pits.

    I guess the rich west ain't so rich after all.




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