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    2020 US elections. What's the status of pindostan and their 2nd civil war?

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    Post  calripson Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:49 pm

    The American elite families that arose out of the industrial revolution and the building of railroads, steel, coal, and oil in the late 1800s were quite analogous in their time to the oligarchs of 1990s Russia. The Carnegies, Morgans, Rockefellers et al owed their success to their access to London based capital (America had very undeveloped and primitive capital markets at the time). Whoever had the deepest pockets won the race and they were forever indebted to their London banking buddies. It is no surprise that over a century later their foundations and their interests still align with those interests. That is the root of what people refer to as "Globalists" or a "New World Order".

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:55 pm

    As they say 'it ain't over until its over'

    Couple of things to ponder on:

    - until the the moment that Biden swears on the bible he could turn round and say “fooled you, I was always going to step back and declare it a miselection” but from that moment on he can’t and is potentially trapped as a traitor as he has completed the process of an illegal election supported by now IC confirmed Chinese intervention.

    - if the military, maybe without Trump as from that moment he will no longer be President, are going to act that will be the time to do it. If they do then they and FEMA will be in charge, conveniently the necessary state of emergency is already being in existence, declared by Trump a couple of years ago.

    Meanwhile:

    - 2,000 of the 30,000+ NG troops have just been upgraded to US Marshal status with powers of arrest and are conveniently located within the fences and barriers of the DC Green Zone.
    - Pelosi is having a blue fit with Trump’s new appointment as Counsel at the NSA.
    - Trump seems to have cleared his family and most of his gear out of the WH already.

    Trump has continued right to the end to put in place OEs and other instructions and staff changes that could only have a few days of life. So, why would he bother to do this?
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:45 pm


    They like, officially admitted to vetting soldiers for party loyalty, this shit is seriously too good Cool

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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:10 am

    https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1351234579823267843

    Tranny flags carried by so-called armed right wingers. More of the Capitol Hill theater of the absurd.

    Americans are being led around by the nose. Stop projecting your problems onto the rest of the world and
    grow some substance. "No matter how bad it is here, it must be worse in other countries", as you bend
    over and take it.

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    Post  elconquistador Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:51 am

    calripson wrote:The American elite families that arose out of the industrial revolution and the building of railroads, steel, coal, and oil in the late 1800s were quite analogous in their time to the oligarchs of 1990s Russia. The Carnegies, Morgans, Rockefellers et al owed their success to their access to London based capital (America had very undeveloped and primitive capital markets at the time). Whoever had the deepest pockets won the race and they were forever indebted to their London banking buddies. It is no surprise that over a century later their foundations and their interests still align with those interests. That is the root of what people refer to as "Globalists" or a "New World Order".

    At the root of what people consider the 'NWO' is the central banking system

    The concept of a private central bank, owned by banking dynasties, that has governments by the balls through huge sums of debt.

    A central bank that literally owns the money printers and decides on monetary policy (and in 2021 every other policy under the sun)

    Let's just call the 'European' bankers by name for the sake of clarity. The Lehmanns, the Goldmann Sachs, the Kuhn-Loebs, the Rockefellers, the Lazards, the Warburgs, the Israel Moses Seifs..

    .. and last but not least the Rothschilds.

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    Post  elconquistador Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:00 am

    kvs wrote:https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1351234579823267843

    Tranny flags carried by so-called armed right wingers. More of the Capitol Hill theater of the absurd.

    Americans are being led around by the nose. Stop projecting your problems onto the rest of the world and
    grow some substance. "No matter how bad it is here, it must be worse in other countries", as you bend
    over and take it.


    No doubt the Boogaloo Boys

    Everything about the Boogaloo Boys glows like crazy

    Feds.

    Just listen to some of them talk. How fake is this sh*t?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/zerosum24/status/1350688599151357952

    https://mobile.twitter.com/zerosum24/status/1351327322255876100


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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:04 am

    Yeltsin made sure that the CBR is also "independent" and thus we see where it follows an anti-Russian agenda. In the case
    of Russia, we have suppression of functional finances by extortion level prime rates. Russia of course does not need to have
    a debt-racket economy, but killing off normal financial transactions and forcing Russian companies to become dependent
    on foreign banks is treachery. In the process, the Russian banking system is kept small and weak. This directly benefits
    London and other global banking centers.

    If Putin wants Russia to be really independent, he needs to purge the CBR and put it on a tight regulatory leash. Not direct
    government control, but not free to pursue ridiculous policy such as running prime rates at twice the inflation rate and
    ignoring the lack of inflationary pressure. No, Nabiullina did not save Russia from inflation in 2014/15. Her insane prime
    rate policy actually drove inflation pressure itself. The reform needs to follow the template

    1) The CPI and PPI are determined by independent means so the CBR cannot make up numbers.

    2) The CBR is then constrained to have the prime rate at CPI + 2% at most under stable conditions.

    3) The CBR is allowed some breathing room to fight inflation if inflation is a serious issue. But the CBR
    does not get to decide all by itself when this is the case.



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    Post  calripson Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:08 am

    elconquistador wrote:
    calripson wrote:The American elite families that arose out of the industrial revolution and the building of railroads, steel, coal, and oil in the late 1800s were quite analogous in their time to the oligarchs of 1990s Russia. The Carnegies, Morgans, Rockefellers et al owed their success to their access to London based capital (America had very undeveloped and primitive capital markets at the time). Whoever had the deepest pockets won the race and they were forever indebted to their London banking buddies. It is no surprise that over a century later their foundations and their interests still align with those interests. That is the root of what people refer to as "Globalists" or a "New World Order".

    At the root of what people consider the 'NWO' is the central banking system

    The concept of a private central bank, owned by banking dynasties, that has governments by the balls through huge sums of debt.

    A central bank that literally owns the money printers and decides on monetary policy (and in 2021 every other policy under the sun)

    Let's just call the 'European' bankers by name for the sake of clarity. The Lehmanns, the Goldmann Sachs, the Kuhn-Loebs, the Rockefellers, the Lazards, the Warburgs, the Israel Moses Seifs..

    .. and last but not least the Rothschilds.

    Few people appreciate the pure brilliance of fractional reserve banking and what that really means. I will reiterate in shorthand - it means centuries of power and wealth acquired by nobility in Europe was transferred like a magic trick to a bunch of clever bankers who probably couldn't ride a horse. The second part of the equation is also little appreciated and understood. As societies modernized, it became essential to conflate that economic power with the interest of the state. The best vehicle for this was monarchy - for example a Queen who was above the law and who could always claim a national security or state interest in protecting both the bankers and her interest. Unfortunately, this model was ill suited to the supposedly Republican form of government of the United States. Somehow a Deep State had to be created that would operate effectively beyond the control of transient politicians. Only an existential threat could call such a transformation into being - such as a "Cold War" with a nuclear armed foe. Thus, to paraphrase Voltaire, if a Cold War did not exist it would be necessary to create one. Winston Churchill would issue in such a Cold War with his famous Iron Curtain speech on March 5, 1946 in Fulton, Missouri (the home state of nitwit haberdasher Truman).

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    Post  elconquistador Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:42 am

    https://mobile.twitter.com/zerosum24/status/1351408174595776512

    According to this military guy its 65 000 soldiers in DC now

    https://mobile.twitter.com/NetworksManager/status/1351381351484846087

    Also heavy troop presence in many state capitals

    https://mobile.twitter.com/amuse/status/1350813127370305541?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1350813127370305541%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

    Not only does Creepy Joe not trust the National Guard, he also doesn't trust the Secret Service.
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    Post  Kiko Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:42 pm

    It's a WH takeover that is now being perpetrated by Joe and his Dem fellas.
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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:32 pm

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/mcconnell-sparks-gop-split-talk-claims-mob-was-fed-liesprovoked-trump

    The upper crust of the Republican Party is part of the same gang as the Demonrats.

    Funny how the clown state that funds storming of legislatures around the world by rent-a-crowd mobs has its
    panties in a bunch over a mild variant in response to it the brazen fraud during its presidential election. Even
    if it was not a stage managed event, the storming of the gathering place of regime rot in the USA is a legitimate
    target and not some holy sanctum.

    Trump called for peaceful protesting at the Capitol. Occurrence of violence is not his responsibility. No more than
    any shooting that occurs all around the USA. The US fake stream media and its one party state enablers is
    trying to push the idea that people do not make independent choices and are de facto marionettes of the Washington
    deciders. That actually fits in with their PC totalitarian agenda.

    Americans need to start waking up and smelling the coffee. The impeachment of Trump is the oiling of the advent
    of a new totalitarian order in the USA.

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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:01 pm



    Good analysis.

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    Post  calripson Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:33 pm

    elconquistador wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/zerosum24/status/1351408174595776512

    According to this military guy its 65 000 soldiers in DC now

    https://mobile.twitter.com/NetworksManager/status/1351381351484846087

    Also heavy troop presence in many state capitals

    https://mobile.twitter.com/amuse/status/1350813127370305541?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1350813127370305541%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

    Not only does Creepy Joe not trust the National Guard, he also doesn't trust the Secret Service.

    When Washington D.C. burned in the wake of the assassination of MLK, 13,000 troops were brought in to quell the violence. In this case, the gross excess of military force is to send a message - we are in charge and the military answers to us (unlike the many times the military lied to and ignored Trump). The tell is that the national Guard was sent from all 50 states and Puerto Rico. No reason to do that numerically unless you intend to send a message.

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:01 pm

    calripson wrote:...When Washington D.C. burned in the wake of the assassination of MLK, 13,000 troops were brought in to quell the violence. In this case, the gross excess of military force is to send a message - we are in charge and the military answers to us (unlike the many times the military lied to and ignored Trump). The tell is that the national Guard was sent from all 50 states and Puerto Rico. No reason to do that numerically unless you intend to send a message.

    Correct observation

    And message will be heard and adhered to

    Some pretty wild precedents have been set and I’m sure more will be in months to come

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    Post  Maximmmm Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:18 am

    It's will never stop being hilarious to me that the guy from the apprentice and home alone 2 ended up being the least warmongering and best president the US has had in decades lol!

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:38 am

    Another nutjob....

    Future US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken on US policy in the coming years:

    ✔ The challenge that Russia poses on a series of fronts is one that is urgent.  This is at the very top of the incoming administration's agenda.
    ✔ I am determined to do everything possible to prevent the completion of Nord Stream 2.  We will try to convince partners in Europe to stop the project.  But, if this does not succeed, we will have to seriously consider all the sanctions instruments that we have.  The President-elect fully agrees that Nord Stream 2 is a bad idea.
    ✔ Attempts to drown out Navalny's voice are what we condemn.  This should have lasting consequences for Russia, but for which specific - has not yet been discussed with President-elect Joe Biden.
    ✔ We will seek to extend the START Treaty.  We will do this almost immediately after Joseph Biden takes over as president.
    ✔ The JCPOA was a success.  If Iran returns to comply with it, we will do so as well.  We will use the treaty as a platform to find a longer term and more solid agreement.
    ✔ China is the most significant challenge for the United States.  I believe that we should pursue a policy towards China from a position of strength, not weakness.
    ✔ I support the provision of defense assistance to Ukraine in the form of weapons by the United States.
    ✔ We assess Erdogan very soberly.  The problem is that Turkey is a union state that does not act as an ally in some cases.  This is a very serious problem for us.  What Turkey did by buying the S-400 while being a NATO ally is unacceptable.
    ✔ The new US administration will leave the American embassy in Jerusalem.
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    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Another nutjob....

    Future US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken on US policy in the coming years:

    ✔ The challenge that Russia poses on a series of fronts is one that is urgent.  This is at the very top of the incoming administration's agenda.
    ✔ I am determined to do everything possible to prevent the completion of Nord Stream 2.  We will try to convince partners in Europe to stop the project.  But, if this does not succeed, we will have to seriously consider all the sanctions instruments that we have.  The President-elect fully agrees that Nord Stream 2 is a bad idea.
    ✔ Attempts to drown out Navalny's voice are what we condemn.  This should have lasting consequences for Russia, but for which specific - has not yet been discussed with President-elect Joe Biden.
    ✔ We will seek to extend the START Treaty.  We will do this almost immediately after Joseph Biden takes over as president.
    ✔ The JCPOA was a success.  If Iran returns to comply with it, we will do so as well.  We will use the treaty as a platform to find a longer term and more solid agreement.
    ✔ China is the most significant challenge for the United States.  I believe that we should pursue a policy towards China from a position of strength, not weakness.
    ✔ I support the provision of defense assistance to Ukraine in the form of weapons by the United States.
    ✔ We assess Erdogan very soberly.  The problem is that Turkey is a union state that does not act as an ally in some cases.  This is a very serious problem for us.  What Turkey did by buying the S-400 while being a NATO ally is unacceptable.
    ✔ The new US administration will leave the American embassy in Jerusalem.

    We can finally settle the "Chinese-agent" fake debate to bed, it's just as stupid as the idea of the Trump admin being of "Russian agency". You can't be a Chinese ally and propose/support the Asian Pivot and TPP strategies! Rolling Eyes
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    Post  calripson Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:02 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Another nutjob....

    Future US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken on US policy in the coming years:

    ✔ The challenge that Russia poses on a series of fronts is one that is urgent.  This is at the very top of the incoming administration's agenda.
    ✔ I am determined to do everything possible to prevent the completion of Nord Stream 2.  We will try to convince partners in Europe to stop the project.  But, if this does not succeed, we will have to seriously consider all the sanctions instruments that we have.  The President-elect fully agrees that Nord Stream 2 is a bad idea.
    ✔ Attempts to drown out Navalny's voice are what we condemn.  This should have lasting consequences for Russia, but for which specific - has not yet been discussed with President-elect Joe Biden.
    ✔ We will seek to extend the START Treaty.  We will do this almost immediately after Joseph Biden takes over as president.
    ✔ The JCPOA was a success.  If Iran returns to comply with it, we will do so as well.  We will use the treaty as a platform to find a longer term and more solid agreement.
    ✔ China is the most significant challenge for the United States.  I believe that we should pursue a policy towards China from a position of strength, not weakness.
    ✔ I support the provision of defense assistance to Ukraine in the form of weapons by the United States.
    ✔ We assess Erdogan very soberly.  The problem is that Turkey is a union state that does not act as an ally in some cases.  This is a very serious problem for us.  What Turkey did by buying the S-400 while being a NATO ally is unacceptable.
    ✔ The new US administration will leave the American embassy in Jerusalem.

    This is the logical extension of the Wolfowitz Doctrine of 1992. The West despite its rejection of most "isms" - racism, antisemitism, sexism, genderism - has never rejected colonialism and imperialism both of which are the underlying operative principles of Western foreign policy wrapped in a cloak of neoliberalism.


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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:09 pm

    Joe Biden in his last speech:

    "Our priority will be small businesses of blacks, Hispanics, Asians and women."

    If you are a man and white therefore you won't get a penny.

    Racism exists. It is against white men.

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    Post  AlfaT8 Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:44 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:We can finally settle the "Chinese-agent" fake debate to bed, it's just as stupid as the idea of the Trump admin being of "Russian agency". You can't be a Chinese ally and propose/support the Asian Pivot and TPP strategies! Rolling Eyes

    No, not really, the guys who slept with Chinese spies is now being promoted to Homeland security, so what was that about TPP and Asia pivot. Rolling Eyes

    Anyway i'll believe it if i see it.


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    Post  kvs Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:45 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Joe Biden in his last speech:

    "Our priority will be small businesses of blacks, Hispanics, Asians and women."

    If you are a man and white therefore you won't get a penny.  

    Racism exists.  It is against white men.

    Where was Bidet when black businesses were burned to the ground during all the anti-Trump riots instigated and lubricated
    by the D. Party?

    US blacks are voluntarily supporting the legacy party of the slave owners and the apartheid law makers.

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    Post  kvs Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:47 pm

    The western hate propaganda chorus is definitely more focused on Russia than China. Western elites still plan to have
    a new world order (aristocrat 1% with 99% serfs) with China. If they lose China, they understand that their big plans
    are DOA. But for some reason they think Russia is weak and irrelevant. That is serious dementia.

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    Post  AlfaT8 Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:53 pm

    kvs wrote:US blacks are voluntarily supporting the legacy party of the slave owners and the apartheid law makers.

    It's welfare, they are too addicted to it, so they will always vote socialist, and the Black victim mentality has completely consumed their community, there is no saving them anymore.

    Sadly for them under Communism everyone's a slave, so this is some weird payback i guess, but the Blacks are still choosing to be slaves.

    So, Kanye West was right, it was a Choice. Wink

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